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I just finish to download the new radio version for our devices. I can not tell you my impressions about the new radio version, but you can download in Wiki, placed on a folder.
couple of questions on the Radio ROM
1. It looks like it is a G4 Radio ROM. Will it work on the G3 version? If not, where can I find the latest Radio ROM for the G3 version?
2. Does it enable Blackberry Connect support on the Prophet by any chance?
Thanks.
Isn't this the Radio ROM from the Wizard? There is a topic in the Prophet part of the forum that discusses this..
I thought the latest original Radio version for the Prophet was 2.30.21.
I also tried the 2.47.11 on my Prophet. Reception was better, but battery life was drammatic
Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.
Yes I noticed that the reception is much better but at cost of the battery duration. Let me still making more tests about these new Radio.
my radio rom is 2.19.21 how and and how I would get the newst stable?q
The cost is very expensive, at least for me. Just one night, without calls, or touch the Prophet full charge and in the morning the batery meter is almost 26 % less !!!!!!!! Guauuuuu! is to much, you don't think so?
Let me still testing.
Yeah, I already tried this radio rom on my S200 and it drains a lot of batt. I don't recommend it to anyone...
I revert to the other radio rom that is floating around here, but I think that also drains a little more that the official ones....
so which radio rom version we/I should use? And where can I download?
I foud something is not right. When I like to turn the device on, (right button) to make a call phone or make a consult or whatever, the device is dead, so I have to make a soft reset. That's pass me very often, so I decide to revert to other radio version, I mean, to 02.30.21.
My impression about this Radio Version:
Pros: Better signal in all aspect.
Contra: Battery duration, inestable.
So, end of my private testing.
ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.
SecureGSM said:
ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.
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Hello,
I use a prophet whith an older radio 02.30.11.
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?
I tested this radio ROM long time ago when it was first posted here. But I changed back to 02.30.21 after one day.
It was a terrible experience, the device automatically reset during conversations very often. One day, I had to reset the prophet for more than 10 times!!!!!
So, I went back to 02.30.21 right away. And I also warned others not to install this radio ROM in this forum, too. I can not believe you guys are still so brave to take the risk.
@andrew_sh
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
Yes, that is correct. this bug present in 02.47.xx radio and is fixed in later radios.
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
Good! I have same result on all my test devices.
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?
I have not meassured it myself. Information in bold is per ... technical documentation
SecureGSM said:
Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.
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What about the 2.67.90 rom?
Has anyone installed it on a prophet?
Any results?
@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx
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@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx
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Can it be downloaded from somewhere ?
Cheers
hrb
I'm back to radio version 2.30.21 and everything going like a charm, fantastic.
were can I download for my prophet 2.30.21?Mine is still running:
2.19.21
You can find that Radio ROM on the FTP Or use the search...
hi currently im using lvsw prophet 220734 rom.im new to ppc .is the rom im using good enough?
and any applications to make battery drain little low.tips pls? thank you all.
Google for Battery Status or OPAMScaler both reduce Clock of the CPU. This save a lot Power. Read wiki.
@parmghali
better you google for OMAPscaler
I use LvsW ROM the one with 8mb pool page. Good performance and the most accurated compsuption i've tested. I have tried among smarts, true, jesterz, shipping roms... i think this one is the one to keep.
Every radio rom past 2.19 gives me low battery time.
I'm using now 2.19.21 with AKU 2.3. AKU 2.3 solved the problem about "home service" on the current network. 2.19.21 solved the problem where the phone was always registering with the GSM netowrk, draining the battery very quickly.
I went from 1 day and a half using 2.61.21 and 2.69.21 radios @aku2.2 to three and a half days of battery time with 2.19.21 [email protected] aku2.3.
me too.
2.19.21 is the best choice for my Prophet (Qtek-ROM 2.20), long standyby and no problems with gprs.
Hello guys.I thought that,it would be nice to have a poll,about radio roms.Please choose your Radio Rom,and tell if you had problems with the other ones...
2.69.21 is the best radio rom so far... 2.21.xx or lower was good... but anyting between 2.21.xx and 2.69.21 did not work fine on my Qtek S200 G3... with those roms, I got "phone not ready" problem
I didn't notice any differences beween radio roms
so I left 2.47 - the last radio shipped for prophet
the last Radio shipped 2.61
I';m using now 2.69 it it offical? please some one answer where did you get it
I had some broadcast problems in 2.69 but it was from the net work casue I go back to 2.61 and still have them
the problems I didn't recieve any messages from the channels
2.69 is good one as I'm recieving broadcast
Prophet Radio roms & battery leakage WM6 rom--TEST
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.69. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
WM6 roms used: PDAviet.v.4.0003, TrueNeytral.v.1.4 (Widcomm bluetooth stack+camera4), & TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS (Microsoft Bluetooth stack, without camera4)
WM5 rom used: I-Mate last official WWE release.
Protocol: Same setup for every test. After each flash to new radio, ck to verify correct ver installed, 1 more soft reset, in comm manager verify speaker & phone the only ones turned on, others with X, no running phone or connection as shown by icon on top screen. Screen backlight set on 2nd mark from left. (lowest setting with light)
Used latest BatteryStatus Ext.v.1.04 beta3 release.
Results:
1. PDAviet- leakage remained about 87-92 mA for ALL radios.
2. TrueNeytral.v.1.4- leakage remained about 127-132 mA for ALL radios.
3. The above tests used the standard 1200 mAh battery (batteries used charged no less that 85%). Using High Capacity battery, 1800 mAh, all values were increased at least 50-70 mA, sometimes 120 mA or more! (Battery change protocol same for all, unit turned OFF by long press method. After battery switch, 2 soft resets before testing.)
4. Control- last Imate WM5 rom & radio ( Rom version 2.13.9.23, Radio version 02.20.21.) Leakage about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
5. TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS- leakage remained about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
Conclusion/Comments:
Leakage is probably NOT related to radio roms. Largest contributing factors to leakage I could find were backlight setting & battery mAh used, when Prophet in normal resting state. (Of course, running certain progies will drain battery rapidly.)
The smallest mAh value battery drains (in resting state) I've experienced in PPC/Phone, come from the test WM6 roms of Custel for Hermes.
One trick by mUn rom developer, is to turn off phone, turn phone back on, in Comm Manager, AFTER each GPRS session. It seems to work with mUn WM6 roms for Trinity & the drain is indeed less. However, this does not work for the Prophet WM6 roms I've tried so far.
Finally, beware of the higher leak values produced by High Capacity batteries. In effect, you get longer use time between charges, but the battery drain is disproportional to stock batteries. If you find a HC battery with same leak values as stock, grab it!
The latest WM6 rom I'm testing: TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS
That's cool! very nice information. You're doing like the myth-busters do on Discovery Ch! I thought radio was an important thing cencerning to batt life!
THANKS BRO
DeviLduck said:
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.67. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
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where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical
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where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical
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Sorry about that, paradis_pal, a typo on my part. I used the 2.69, downloaded from prophet wiki. Thanks for pointing that out.
I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones
paradis_pal said:
I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones
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Looks like an official radio rom contained in the German T-Mobile release for MDA Vario product. The 2.69 version we're using must be a radio rom extract of this.
Also, the 3.08 radio mentioned in xda forums is from a T-Mobile UK product rom. However, there are so many problems with the 3.08 install on G3 or G4, I'd strongly advise against messing with that one. In addition, the download package is contaminated with a worm/virus according to Avast.
It's very likely, that the 2.47 radio is the best & most stable, in an overall sense. Many people are having problems with the 2.69, but it's hard to know how many of those are using WM6.
Versions:
Rom-Version: 3.8.2.2
Rom-Date: 11/10/06
Radio-Version: 02.69.11
Protcol-Version: 4.1.13.30
OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1206215
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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That's your download problem I guess. 'Cos the radio rom is actually 2.19 MB to 2.20 MB
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Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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the exact size of the nb radio rom is 2621440 bytes = 2.5 MB, a little more bytes in the NBF file usualy 2622464
the defferent size becasue of the compression that is all, look at the uncomressed size
so what's the shipped radio at this moment? is 2.61? right?
I have recently flashed both the TNT 1933 TouchFlo edition ROM and the Black Diamond 3.1 Rom. They are both great but both of them are absolutely killing my battery life. I mean I cannot go a half day without the battery dying. What is going on with my Wizard? Is this a common problem with flashing WM6 ROMS, these specific ROMS (TNT and BD3.0), or is it just my phone somehow?
Its your old battery. Replace it.
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I have recently flashed both the TNT 1933 TouchFlo edition ROM and the Black Diamond 3.1 Rom. They are both great but both of them are absolutely killing my battery life. I mean I cannot go a half day without the battery dying. What is going on with my Wizard? Is this a common problem with flashing WM6 ROMS, these specific ROMS (TNT and BD3.0), or is it just my phone somehow?
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yeah most likely battery dying if it goes that quick... but just to test, flash back to the stock tmo rom and see if it's still horrible before you go buy a new one...
jbbruce said:
I have recently flashed both the TNT 1933 TouchFlo edition ROM and the Black Diamond 3.1 Rom. They are both great but both of them are absolutely killing my battery life. I mean I cannot go a half day without the battery dying. What is going on with my Wizard? Is this a common problem with flashing WM6 ROMS, these specific ROMS (TNT and BD3.0), or is it just my phone somehow?
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It might be an old batt; but mine is original. I had the issue with Merlins rom for a while so I finally managed to find a fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367375&page=44
(post number 439)
This is most likely due to a corrupt Extended ROM. I flashed back to a stock WM5 ROM and reflashed the WM6 ROM, and the battery drain issue is gone.
Regards,
Rudi
Thanks for the help and advice guys, I'll try these things out and post an update, thanks again
I am currently using 1.64.08.21 and I find the battery drains very quickly with only average usage. I have turned beam off, but I like having HSDPA enabled, it certainly drians faster than the standard O2 radio rom version.
Does anyone have any experience with them on O2 in the uk.
NB, I am on Duttys latest, which is a brilliant rom.
churchwa said:
I am currently using 1.64.08.21 and I find the battery drains very quickly with only average usage. I have turned beam off, but I like having HSDPA enabled, it certainly drians faster than the standard O2 radio rom version.
Does anyone have any experience with them on O2 in the uk.
NB, I am on Duttys latest, which is a brilliant rom.
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I am using Radio version 1.64.06.04 with the latest ROM and battery usage is very reasonable. Like you, I have HSDPA enabled on the o2 network. I hope this helps.
churchwa said:
I am currently using 1.64.08.21 and I find the battery drains very quickly with only average usage. I have turned beam off, but I like having HSDPA enabled, it certainly drians faster than the standard O2 radio rom version.
Does anyone have any experience with them on O2 in the uk.
NB, I am on Duttys latest, which is a brilliant rom.
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i am using 1.58.21.23, seems to be ok.
I second that.
Good reception and amazing speed & battery life.
Thanks chaps, I will give the others a try.
hey, im using 1.58.26.20 at the moment. reception is pretty good here, always got hsdpa on BUT it does drain the battery quite a bit.
will try the other radio - cant remember the numbers - if its got good reception and batt reviews..
thanks lads..
:S
does anyone else get an error (204) when trying to flash the radio rom back in the last step. Also do i need to flash a radio rom onto my phone because everything works fine on my pone. your thoughts please.
churchwa said:
I am currently using 1.64.08.21 and I find the battery drains very quickly with only average usage. I have turned beam off, but I like having HSDPA enabled, it certainly drians faster than the standard O2 radio rom version.
Does anyone have any experience with them on O2 in the uk.
NB, I am on Duttys latest, which is a brilliant rom.
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Not to be a jerk..
But there are already about 10 threads discussing different radio's. I know this question is address UK specific, but I would just try them all out and see what works best for you.