I recently upgraded to WM6 ROM, "Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE", and all went well.
But then at 40% battery my phone died... and this is very similar to a problem I used to had in WM5.
Can anyone tell me which WM6 ROM doesnt cause the battery problem?
For the record, I don't think either my phone or PDA is damaged. The last time I had this problem, I went back to the service center (several times I might add), and they replaced everything eventually (both PDA and Battery). Since then it has worked fine (for about 6mths+), until I flashed to the WM6 ROM.
**** man, I hope this has not damaged my device. Out of warranty already.
I had a similar problem and also initially didn't beleive it could be the battery, but guess what -- getting a new battery solved almost all problems I had including the phone dying at 40% or above. So it might be worth a try...
IT"S YOUR BATTERY
Just trust me
the battery 'dies' after like 6 to 12 months. It just goes bad in a week.
Mine went out on like 20%, then a week later on 54%
replacing it fixes it.
mine crashes over 20%.... the battery it's new
I had same problem with battery,then I buy new battery from ebay, and then the battery status was OK it goes from 100- 4% with warning and everything. But the problem was that battery last only a couple of hours, even aftzer a few days nothing change I must have charger with me all the time.
Then I search the forum and found someons solution, that works for me too.
Just charge the battery full take the cable out and put it in again a couple of times so the battery is realy full charged, the put the device in bootloader mode by pressing Power + Light + Reset, which brings up an un-backlit screen with "Serial" at the top, and "v0.XX" at the bottom. And then just put your device somewhere and dont touch it until it died that coul be the all day. Anyway next day I put the charger in and again didnt touc for all day. And my problems are gone, the battery since then last fortwo or three days if I dont use it much.
Hope that will help somebody
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
Mine dies at 35% with wm6 and wm5 and my old battery, but never dies with my new battery.
Use Radio 1.15
My battery life increased by 200% just by upgrading to this radio ROM.
same here
i m also sufrer of same problem. now after this forum i m confused
Here is the simple fact of the matter:
Batteries are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of equipment
They often give false readings because the chemical reaction that creates the electricity is easily affected by heat\age\use\etc. Also, the electronics that measure the temperature are based on the false assumption that the battery drains in a predictable way down to the same level.
Your battery draining quicker\slower and dying when it says it has charge may be because of the ROM. However, this is HIGHLY unlikely. What is most likely the cause is external factors (eg heat, number of programs running, etc) or that the battery has "died" or become unreliable.
Recommendation: Try different batteries, and remember that batteries have a chemical reaction, before posting here
I don't know... I started having problems as well just after a ROM upgrade... but it was an official ROM upgrade. I start thinking this has something to do with the upgrade process, like some setting being "wiped out" during the upgrade and the battery going "out of sync" with the device, reporting the wrong battery level...
But, more likely, this is just a psycological effect, you install the new rom and then start playing a lot with the device to find the improvements, and you begin noticing the problem for the first time!
My relatively new I-mate JasJar also started dying when the battery level reached 40% the day i flashed WM6.
i posted here, trying to explain that it was perfectly alright 2 days back, prior to WM6.. pointless to say, everyone still said it was the battery 100%
well.. i got a new battery.. and it did indeed solve the problem.
but guess what.
i flashed WM5 back, and both batteries work fine there.
not sure what the heck is going on here.. but i'm certain there are two fixes:
- flash WM5 back on.
- get a new battery and stay with WM6
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
You cannot judge the battery is old or new by just months.
This older version of Universal battery, it counts by number of time charged I think, inserting in USB for a sync and remove would probably counted as 1 charge.
I now do not sync using those working condition battery, I change to my dead battery for sync purpose.
As I sync only contacts, now Dotfred has a tool and now I hardly use sync anymore.
By the way, there is one guy in this same forum start another thread without reading this (closest info) or all other previous threads.
People like this deserved to be flamed, but I didnt.
IMHO WM6 uses and drains the battery different then WM5
My experience is that everyone that has problems with their device dying just switched to WM6. It has nothing to do with the WM6 itself, it's just that WM6 is more 'sensitive' to a low battery output then WM5. So if you switch back to WM5 it looks like it might 'solve' your problem but in the end the battery will die, it'll just take a little bit longer before WM5 appears to have problems.
You'll postpone the problem for a little while but it's not a fix
Just my 2 cents
CWKJ said:
I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
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Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
astraman said:
Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
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I have 3 original batteries.
In principle, good battery can goes to perfect 0%.
First battery started half dead (that is phone is dead 30%) after upgrade from WM5 AKU1 to WM5 AKU2 happen to be around 6 months after I start using the phone, I thought it was the problem with WM5 AKU2 ROM. My usage pattern of this battery is that I charge anytime I wish with Power charger and also during sync. This battery is still with me now after 1 year I have encounter the problem. The dead % grow (no change of ROM) until now it is around 100%, that is phone is dead just before it goes to 99%.
Second battery was bought the same time my first battery has problem, 1 year passed. Usage pattern are, never use this battery for sync or short connections to PC USB, never charge my battery until it is 0% (always possible) or less than 5%, never upgrade ROM using this battery. Always charge to LED turns GREEN & always sync & upgrade ROM with the dead stuck at 100% battery. 1 year has gone, the second is still able to reach 0% till now with battery last average 1 to 3 days, normally 2 days & sometimes 4 days depends on usage pattern.
Third battery, claim by vendor that some electronics is modified compared to the those bought last year. Charged this battery, use a few time to check if it is an ok battery, need to do this as I have ever bought brand new dead battery last year. After confirmed it is a good battery, I continue using the second battery and third battery always carry along as backup in case I used up the second battery.
Hope my usage pattern can help some of you to have optimal use of the battery and do not let the manufacturer earn extra money due to the problem in the old version of the battery. Anyway, this original battery will be discontinued soon due to end of life of this product. Guess I will have to look forward of getting imitations when my second & third battery is gone or maybe when my phone is gone too.
Tadeusz said:
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
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uhh...not true...
try to flash you phone at 50% charge...when you boot your battery will still be at 50%
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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Not so Dears
i have what the american will say as 20/20 and the rst of the world will say as 6\6 corrected vision.
i can read normal 12 pt text pretty well..
and apart from that what you claim is...well NOT TRUE
I have an amazing experience with my XDA Exec to share with you all..
My XDA Exec started to shut down at 55% level a month back when the winter started to set in and as the temp. went on going down my XDA started getting shut down at higher battery levels 60% then 65% then 70% slowly it reached to shut down at 95% battery remaining level, it'll switch off after an hour of full recharge of10 minutes of talk. I had to always keep it in charging state all day/night long.
Last week i had to go to Southern part of India on a business trip which is quite hot even this time of the year... i found my battery working fine till 10% battery level suddenly.. it would nicely work for the whole day there after a full recharge and now when i am back in Delhi again it has started getting switched off at 95% battery remaining level.
Now i tried to keep this mobile in a comparatively more hot room than outside and this time it worked till the level of 65% battery remaining level!!
Why should the battery wont work in low temperatures and the same one work fine at hot places? Anyone has any idea?
Ashwani
Welcome on board!
You may want to start by searching the forum, because I'm not going to write down something that has benn discussed t-1 times in x threads. It would be a waste of space.
I'm going to tell you this much: change the batteries every 6 months. This phenomenonindicates the battery has reached the end of its effective life.
Thanks mzalan,
I have been reading the previous posts and universal wiki citing the problem i faced and i know my battery has died...........just wanted to share my experience which hasnt been posted by anyone before........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356860
try it
i know a new battery is a solution too but if you wanna tryy this.. give t a shot and post your results
dj_gabzz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356860
try it
i know a new battery is a solution too but if you wanna tryy this.. give t a shot and post your results
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And this can fry the battery for good...
Pretty risky, IMHO
my battery is already fried..... the only worse thing that can happen to it will that it'll be completely dead.....lemme give it a try ....will tell ya tomorrow about the outcome....
ashwanimishra said:
my battery is already fried..... the only worse thing that can happen to it will that it'll be completely dead.....lemme give it a try ....will tell ya tomorrow about the outcome....
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please do and post your results in that thread so that others cn follow too
Hello. I've tried many Rom on my Qtek 8310 and it seems some Roms drain battery more than others. What is the best Rom for battery duration? I think that it can be different from phone to phone, but I would like to read some advices...
Thanks everybody
Wow!!!
I've just thinkink in post a topic like that!!!
I try many ROMs in my Cingular 2125 and all drains batt more fast than I think correct....
I read in a topic that illi's VM 6.1 (not so) plain jane is slower in drain batt, but rickwyatt's version is faster....
Let's see people opinion...
And sorry about my english...
Battery drain...
I've tried all the available ROM's on my SPV C600 and to be honest, I haven't found any significant difference in battery life between any of them. May be it has to do with Wi-Fi? The C600 doesn't have Wi-Fi. Other than that, I can't think of anything that would cause a big difference?
Of course there is always the old 'novelty factor'. It might be that you just play with your device more after you've installed a new ROM, therefore using more battery than usual making you think it's not lasting as long?? Just an idea
In my case wifi has nothing with that problem... Cingular 2125 is Faraday, not Tornado. Then no wifi...
Maybe novelty factor... When I change ROMs I only configure my ringtones, install 5 apps, listen mp3 for about 40min and dont' make or receive any calls in first 24h....
Last ROM I've tested (rickwyatt's WM6.1 ROM) drains about 18% in first 24h with this usage....
18% in 24hrs with usage?? I wouldn't complain about that. Sounds like pretty good battery life to me. What are you expecting exactly? At that rate of discharge it'll last Monday through Friday on one charge!!
grahamkdt said:
18% in 24hrs with usage?? I wouldn't complain about that. Sounds like pretty good battery life to me. What are you expecting exactly? At that rate of discharge it'll last Monday through Friday on one charge!!
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Monday to Friday is the average cell phone with a minimum of calls. That's extraordinary. People would kill to have any phone drain like that with usage.
is there any program out there to put the phone to sleep. when i have it in my case the joystick is always being bumped and this keeps the phone lit up even when it is locked, thus running the battery dead. thanks for any replys
mario_ddd said:
is there any program out there to put the phone to sleep. when i have it in my case the joystick is always being bumped and this keeps the phone lit up even when it is locked, thus running the battery dead. thanks for any replys
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same problem here!
ok so latly my battery has been dieing so quick
i have a cingular 8125
these are the things im running
TskMgr.exe
ThrottleLock.exe
lockdemon.exe
pBar.exe
CapNotify.exe
cprog.exe
connmgr.exe
services.exe
shell32.exe
gwes.exe
device.exe
filesys.exe
NK.EXE
someone help me please
how old is your battery?
josefcrist said:
how old is your battery?
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i dun really know because i bought it used
the phone use to last untill like 8 hours while tlking on the phone
now it wont even last for an hour
Also you can buy a new battery, they are cheap this days
wiredvs said:
try conditioning your battery, you do this by running your phone down til' it turns off. Then, charge (while off) for about 7 hrs.
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orb3000 said:
Also you can buy a new battery, they are cheap this days
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lol both correct, but try what wiredvs says first. When under heavy use, the battery gauge does not display the crrect charge sometimes. You will charge it until the green light shows (normally full yes?) and take it off charge, but the phone will not be fully charged.
Charging it for at least double the time with device off should rectify the issue, its a common "quirk" of winmo devices under heavy usage.
If it doesnt work then ur battery is fried so time to get a new one
bstylz911 said:
i dun really know because i bought it used
the phone use to last untill like 8 hours while tlking on the phone
now it wont even last for an hour
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Wait, what? You can talk on these things? OMG YOU'RE RIGHT!? I've never done that.
Seriously, I suspect your battery is dead, so I'm agreeing with, well, every other post in this thread. My battery has gotten weird too.. I tracked a bunch of battery usage on my phone back when it was new, now when I do the same thing the readings seem to be higher than they were because I'm basing it on percentage of battery used. I've found actually monitoring the battery usage tends to use more battery so I wanted to avoid that.
Also I've noticed mine charges up to about 88% then suddenly thinks it's 100% full. It's about time for a new one.
khaytsus said:
. I've found actually monitoring the battery usage tends to use more battery so I wanted to avoid that.
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Lol how ironic!
I have changed my mate 7 screen and after this i have faced a problem with my battery it fully charge in 3 hours and take alot ot time in charging after reaching 90% , today while using it it was 20% suddenly droped to 0% and tuned off , i connected my charger anf boot it up and found its 13% , any help guys
Probably damaged the battery when changing the screen. It sounds like when the battery fails in my daughter's THL phone. She's killed two batteries in it already.
But I have checked the battery itself it's size the same and looks familiar
My suggestion did not help you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/themes-apps/mate-7-battery-t3349924 post #2.
ronnie72 said:
My suggestion did not help you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/themes-apps/mate-7-battery-t3349924 post #2.
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Ronnie u preceded me I was replying now thanks a lot for ur help , it's working perfect now thanks buddy for ur effort ^_^