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Alternative to outlook.

Hello.
Is there an alternative around for outlook? both desktop and/or pda? that allows sync? (calendar, contacts and email, notes, etc...) i really hate outllook. its slow and lags alot....
if anyone have any ideas?
all the best
OliveiraJMR.

If you only want to sync your desktop, take a look at, say, IntelliSync or, to a lesser degree, mNotes.
If with an Exchange server, you can do it too.

But is there any way to use for instance thunderbird?

FinchSync allows you to syncronize Pocket Outlook with Thunderbird. It is said to syncronize contacts, appointments and tasks between Windows Mobile and Thunderbird/Sunbird.
I haven't tested it yet.
http://www.finchsync.com/
Jörg

Forgot to mention:
http://synchingthunder.sourceforge.net/
It allows one to synchronize Thunderbird installation between different computers. Not exactly what you are looking for, but it may have its uses.
(I failed to get it to work on my system though)
Jörg

Thank you.
Hi there!
First, thank you all for all your kick awnsers!!
I found another program, payware, that lets you sync pocket pc and thunderbird. its called birdie sync http://www.birdiesync.com/home.html shame it doesnt let you, for now they say, sync email...
talking about e-mail... this is exactly what i cant find!! some sort of way to sync pocket pc and thunderbird email.....any ideas?
Another idiea would be putting thunderbird to sych with an outlook.pst file and the user regular active sync...
All the best,
Joao Oliveira.
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I'm not sure if there already are applications that synchronize the emails (haven't came across any), but it will probabely come...
I also haven't found software to synchronize an Outlook (on the PC) with a ThunderBird.
Jörg

I would love to sync my contacts and appointments with GMail, is there anyway possible. I found Goosync for appointments, but nothing for the contacts file (which is what i REALLY want).
Any ideas?

Birdiesync.
Hello All!
Looks like birdiesync is now supporting e-mail sync.
So you can now actually sync windows mobile 5 with Thunderbird. It supports besides mail, calendar (using sunbird/lightning beta) calendar and tasks.
I'm still testing it.. they have a fully functional trial version that works for 30 days. if you like it you can buy it for 24,95dolars.
all the best,
Joao.

Windows Vista features to sync

IS there a way to sync windows calendar, mail, contacts with the pda ?

I've been very busy with this, but eventually I installed Office 2007. My guess i that it only works whit outlook..

Outlook? Yes, read documentation
duanes said:
I've been very busy with this, but eventually I installed Office 2007. My guess i that it only works whit outlook..
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well, the documentation that comes with your pda says so, with a lot of pictures for those who cannot read.
vjj

duanes said:
I've been very busy with this, but eventually I installed Office 2007. My guess i that it only works whit outlook..
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Does anybody knows if microsoft is working on this issue or simply they want that we pay for Outlook?
I can't belive that they don't let us use the built-in calendar/contact!
Any third-part software?
It is meaningless!

Allmost all PDAs that are being sold on the planet comes with version of Microsoft Outlook so no need to buy it!
And Yes it is very sad that you can't sync with Vista's internal programs! They are wey easier to use!

OrionBG said:
Allmost all PDAs that are being sold on the planet comes with version of Microsoft Outlook so no need to buy it!
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Mine is Outlook 2002!
I don't think it will run on Vista.. But even if it runs.. I can't understand why i have to install that USELESS (and bloatware..) software!
I would use Vista becuse, as you said, it's much more easy!
So why have i instal Outlook (old version) if there is a "mini" (???) outlook built-in?

i guess they consider people who buy this kind of device would actually not care much for price or for outlook since outlook is standard for evey office out there.. have you ever seen a business rely on whatever comes with windows and not ms office? anyway i agree with all of you, there should be some way or 3rd party app that syncs regular windows stuff..
ms is never money satisfied!

dj_gabzz said:
i guess they consider people who buy this kind of device would actually not care much for price or for outlook since outlook is standard for evey office out there..
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LOL
So, why they make a camera phone? Businessman can buy 10 megapixel camera.
Why they make pocket pc? Businessman can buy UMTC!
So, sorry, but i can not agree on this theory.
We have a good PIM on Vista. What I ask is to USE IT.
So, is there anyone who knows something about this issue?
Any from the betatesters?

The problem is that Vista was released prior to WM6
The solution is:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...f1-e46a-4a5f-a791-09f07aaa1914&DisplayLang=en
Enjoy!

TehPenguin said:
Enjoy!
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Yes i know.. but we can read:
Microsoft® Outlook® 2003 and Microsoft® Outlook® 2007 messaging and collaboration clients are required for synchronization of e-mail, contacts, tasks and notes to a Personal Computer.
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So we can understand that:
-Microsoft don't care about calendar.. LOL
-"Allmost all PDAs that are being sold on the planet comes with version of Microsoft Outlook" but it is too old, it wold not run on Vista (Microsoft says it, not me).
So, i repeat: anyone knows if Microsoft is working on sync between PDA and Vista PIM?
Is there a mail, a forum, where i could ask this simply question to Microsoft?
Thank you.

I use ThunderBird not Outlook, what can I do?

Hi,
I just got my T-Mobile Dash (HTC Excalibur) running WM6 a couple of days ago, and I'm trying to get my contacts from my laptop to my phone. I use Thunderbird though and not outlook. The ActiveSync software tells me that I can only sync contacts if I'm using outlook on my laptop!
I can export all my contacts as a .wab file, but if WM6 uses such a file to keep contacts, then I can't find it. It just occurred to me that it might use an .xml file, but I can't find that either.
How can I get my contacts easily onto my phone? Is there some alternate software that I can use to sync?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. )
Chris

is there some reason why you can't use outlook?

People have their reasons for not using Outlook such as cost, personal preference or operating system. You can try using mail2web to do an OTA sync, but how to get from thunderbird to mail2web is up to you.

this might be of intrest to you:
http://www.birdiesync.com

lafester said:
is there some reason why you can't use outlook?
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Yeah, because it's really expensive, and I don't like it. I much prefer Thunderbird.

Speigei said:
this might be of intrest to you:
http://www.birdiesync.com
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Thanks so much Speigei! I think this is exactly what I'm looking for!
I'll post again to let you know how things went.
Cheers mate!

cjordan said:
Yeah, because it's really expensive, and I don't like it. I much prefer Thunderbird.
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If I am not mistaken you get Outlook for free when you buy the dash. I know I got a disk with my mda, and I am pretty sure I got one for my dash as well.

actually because M$ wants money, you only get a "trial" of outlook. I just downloaded the birdiesync and it works awsome.

I use Birdiesync, its actually works pretty damn well. It integrates into Lightning very well too...

Is there a free program that functions like birdiesync? I just checked their site and it has onyl a 21 day trial.

lafester said:
is there some reason why you can't use outlook?
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Thunderbird can be used portably, like on a thumb drive.
If I had access to an exchange server, I wouldn't need a portable email app (except that OWA sucks donkey balls, so thunderbird is still better).

FinchSync (http://www.finchsync.com/) works for me.

new_guy said:
Is there a free program that functions like birdiesync? I just checked their site and it has onyl a 21 day trial.
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I recommend the free program Funambol. I am using it to synchronize my phone and Thunderbird. It has a server program, a desktop plugin, and a phone plugin. You can set the server up on your own computer and have it sync when you are connected via USB, sync over the air to your own computer (which requires having a data plan and having an open port on your desktop machine for Funambol to connect through), or you can get a free account at my.funambol.com, which is the approach I used. It can even enable push email, fetching the email from some other email account and pushing it to the phone. I used the latter functionality for a few days, then turned it off, as having the data continuously active drained the battery pretty fast. I still use it for syncing my contacts and calendar.

Contact manager a la Outlook

Everywhere I see I keep finding references to Outlook when I want to edit contacts through my computer instead of through my PPC (it's a seriously painful job at times... ><).
I have no interest in buying the entire damned Outlook/Office suite for this little thing, and OpenOffice covers everything I need otherwise. Does this exist?

Outlook is an awesome app period. I got '07 version (only one on shelves) for about $70. Not to mention it will also be your main point for calender, tasks, notes, contacts, and if you want mail (kind of pointless if you have the unlimited data plan) Or just find a contact manager app for your PPC that you like, you don't have to purchase the entire office suite.

I'm still not keen on getting Outlook. Costly, unnecessary since I have everything I need in other programs or services. All I need is a way to manage contacts like I can do in Outlook (through Activesync), and that's what I'm looking for, but can't find.
Does it exist?

may try jeyo mobile companion.
its a desktop tool to work with your PPC for SMS and contacts.

Im using Mozilla Thunderbird and Birdiesync, if you install the Lightning-Addon for Thunderbird you can even sync your Calendar.

bommel0815 said:
may try jeyo mobile companion.
its a desktop tool to work with your PPC for SMS and contacts.
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Now this looks interesting. Thanks to both of you for great suggestions!
If there's a free something out there that'd be even better

Synch WM6 with Windows Calendar & Address?

Hi,
I own an HTC Touch, with WM6. Vista includes apps such as Windows Calendar and Windows Address Book.
I was wondering if it was possible to sync automatically (using Mobile Device Center e.g) your windows calendar & address book with the ones used by WM6.
I can't imagine them being so stupid in Redmond not to make it compatible...
I don't want to work with Outlook because for starters, i don't have outlook, and i'm using windows mail, which is as basic as i need.
Anybody a suggestion?
Greetz

not that i know off but if you use hotmail and or gmail you can sync directly to those services

How do you mean? I have a Gmail account...

MistaMolla said:
I can't imagine them being so stupid in Redmond not to make it compatible...
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There are many more stupid decisions being taken in Redmond.. So yes I can imagine them being so stupid not to offer a syning method for 2 of their own products.

The answer is simple - which enterprise clients are going to use those apps? none seems to be the answer, so they are invisible as far as the development team are concerned.