Hello all gurus!
Firs off, sorry if this already is mentioned, but I tried a search.
I am developing some apps, and they do not run on WM6 for some reason, what's worse is that I need to demo them and all I have is a TyTnII (Kaiser).
Does anyone here know if / how to downgrade this to a WM5??
The phone is HTC / Unlocked so there are no restrictions.
Thanks.
Shouldnt you rather be looking for solution to get the apps working on WM6? You will get much more of interested users also by getting them to work on WM6.
This doesnt seem to make a lot of sense...
no, is not possible, not exist wm5 rom.bye
Thanks all for the reply.
I will of course port the app to WM6, but I dont have time for the demo.
My firm is saying goodlink cannot be installed on my Tilt, but can be installed on WM5. I think I need to go through my firm in order to install the program.
That's funny....Because I just setup a, free from AT&T, goodlink server for a company with 30 Tilts.
Like others have mentioned, I doubt you'll be able to do it since there are no Kaisers developed with WM5.
why u request Wm5
WM6 is more better I think you should ask for WM7 Not WM5
I beleive its possible!
You'll have to do all the work.....
Start with Alex's Kitchen, find a WM5 Rom (I suggest you use a factory Rom but I do have some cooked ROMs from some of the best Chefs that alot of you don't know of), Dump it, Compatible Radio (I have those also), and a spare Kaiser just in case.
If you're really serious...it could be done. If you look around, there isn't an all Kaiser Rom around. They're all chopped & mixed up.
dwny said:
I beleive its possible!
You'll have to do all the work.....
Start with Alex's Kitchen, find a WM5 Rom (I suggest you use a factory Rom but I do have some cooked ROMs from some of the best Chefs that alot of you don't know of), Dump it, Compatible Radio (I have those also), and a spare Kaiser just in case.
If you're really serious...it could be done. If you look around, there isn't an all Kaiser Rom around. They're all chopped & mixed up.
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I agree with dwny. However, you would be ill advised to spend downgrading your demo device to WM5. You should be spending the time to improve the product and ensure that it works on other platforms besides WM5.
Hope this helps!
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So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
Hi Jesterz
Thats not an easy one, I tried the WM6 rom, and it worked but with the mentioned bugs, but it took all of my available ram, and kept coming up with memery shortage errors, does WM6 need more memory for it to operate, and will it ever have enough on a prophet?
JD
WM6!!!!!!
Im test the PDAVIET and the only big problem is the charge item.
[]s FerSoft
I say continue with AKU3.3 it's the one with less bugs...
yeah me too, lets go on with Aku 3.3
Personally I think that we should continue with WM6. More 3rd party applications will be developed for it in the long run, and it makes sense to future proof our Prophets.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
I think aku 3.3 needs just a bit more tweaking and that should come first, right?
You're probably closer to another release as well...
Sorry, I do not know why I got triple post here.....
WM6 Please Please Please
I loved WM6 only probs were
reset on return from standby (obex fix) only when not plugged in mains or usb
charging/batt status doesnt work after return from standby
Sometimes looses BT and Wifi information
I think the first two are linked. The device can only come out of standby if the obex dll registry is removed or renamed. maybe if the obex thing was fixed the charging might continue to work!!!
Excellent work though Jesterz - I use your 2.2r1 in production. Rock Solid and I have even kept the Jesterz Splash Screen
Jesterz said:
So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
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It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
scott4 said:
It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
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yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
how about unlocking the extended rom on htc excalibur aku3.0 for a change ,tired of seeing all these hacks for ppc!
nandlal_mk said:
yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
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I think it too, but you can't force people to buy prophets so they could turn their heads our way!
WM6 is my choice.
I think it will take a long time to stabilise wm6 rom but eventually we will reap the rewards as it is the future.
WM6 for me. Let's prepare our Prophets for the future.
I think we should go for WM6! This is the feature!
Better go for WM6!!! Go Jesterz Go!
Hi all,
Ive just got myself a tmobile wizard. ive been looking all through the wm6 pages and was just wondering is it worth me updating my wm5 to wm6. im sure all the new users would like to know this (is there speed improvements etc) and is there a rom that is stable and 99% working? as ive had alot of problems in the past when updating my blueangel to wm5
apologies if these are stupid questions
IMO, there's not enough extra in WM6 to justify the little problems it has. I'd suggest a stable WM5 like Farias 3.3
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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I would 2nd that!!! Now that we have the Ir button working 100%, i dont think there is other problems
So far so good here....
I know it's kinda aging now but I have been running NotTooSmart's Vanilla Rom for a while now and I have no issues whatsoever. I use my device constantly all day every day and though there was some trick to getting it to work just how I wanted I was comfortable enough to put the same ROM on my wife's Wizard as well (If you only knew how big of a step this was.... god forbid something goes wrong there I will never hear the end of it) .
Overall, here is the list of things that I do with rom if you are contemplating using it yourself and want to know if it will work for you.
Exchange activesync (heavy use)
Pocket IE
AIM 2.0 for PPC (osed once or twice)
Watching movies with TCPMP
( SEE TCPMP NOTES BELOW )
I use WMP as my only MP3 player with a couple of SD cards
WIFI works fine
Bluetooth headset with my HT850 works fine
Phone works okay. I mean, nothing is perfect and I do miss a call on occasion but so far it's acceptable. I have found, despite my previous posts, that 2.19 UK actually is more reliable. 2.25 US is better for data in my area but 2.19 UK causes me to miss a lot less calls.
I use internet radio via TCPMP at the gym every day reliably.
Sirius Sat Radio via SiriusWM5 works great although on occasion I do get the odd program error - NOTE: happens in WM5 too.
I DO NOT OVERCLOCK AT ALL as I really have no need for it.
Ewallet latest release works great
Listpro works great
I use a whole bunch of networking apps (tracert, pocket ping, etc...) from way back in the WM2003 days that still work just fine on WM6.
Terminal services works (though most people will not use this).
TCPMP NOTE: In order to do internet radio and most video you will need to DL and install the WMV9 codecs. This is a known issue and can be found by searching through back posts here in the WM6 forum.
Overall, I say yeah, it's worth it. It's more of an evolutionary upgrade than anything but it's a "nice to have". Plus, HTML email is real nice if you have EXCH 2007.
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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How is the battery life with this rom?
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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I think this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
Make sure you have either G3 or G4 device as downloading the wrong version will brick your device.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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If you are wanting to give WM6 a go, then the Faria 3.3 rom is not the correct one. That is a WM5 rom.
The Faria Clean / Vanilla is the WM6 one. You have to download the entire ROM Kitchen, but there is a flash rom directory that has a default rom already built (or you can go through the build process to add and remove the stuff you want / don't want.
The link for the Faria WM6 is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406 (same as given above, but that is NOT the AKU 3.3 Faria ROM)
If you really want Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its a stable WM5 ROM) then its here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
And then use this link to step you through flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
k2e15 said:
How is the battery life with this rom?
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it seems better than any wm6 i have tried , it does not have battery status installed and i have not installed it yet so without that and no overclocking its holding up as good as it did with farias wm5 3.3.
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ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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sometimes you can get around the 90 minute wait by just putting http://anonym.to/? infront of the URL. Doesn't always work but its worth a try.
Is it worth it?
I know I'm coming in late to the thread, but I think in general I would be a bit more cautious. The leap from a stock rom to a (necessarily) custom WM6 rom, and then to a rom kitchen is better taken in baby steps in my opinion. In my own view, objectively I don't see any difference in my day to day usage of my wizard from when I was running WM5. In fact, I think because I've become obsessed with tinkering with it, I spend more time trying out different odds and ends, tweaking and breaking and fixing things than I do using it!
If you are primarily interested in USING you Wizard, I would start with a small step to say the Faria 3.3 WM5 rom. Learn to unlock, and flash, load your programs again, etc. Then once that's digested move up to WM6 if you really feel the itch, then try a rom kitchen as a final step.
Whatever you do, Keep it Fun!
Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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No, its a "Vanilla" or "Clean" rom (ie: pretty much stripped down to the core). So you then add back to it just what you want.
If you want a full featured WM6, then look at Faria's "the real thing" but there are issues with that one so you have to dig through the huge thread for fixes (so I don't recommend it). If you want something that feels like a "stock" rom, then do the Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its WM5, but its better than the stock ones IMO).
I like the Vanilla roms though as you just put on it what you want. But not everyone likes that.
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
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I think that's a great idea. Even if you put in all his currently available options, it is still more of a vanilla rom. Maybe with and without Voice Command, as that seems to be a make or break issue for folks. But serve it up the way you like it!
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ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Well, if you're going to do this, now its time to start reading that thread.
Good luck!
i just want to install the vanilla standard rom, do i just need to run an exe from the kitchen folder?
Hey,
When I bought my Universal from ebay it already came with WM6 (a very buggy version, not sure from where). So I never really had the chance to test WM5.
I'm mostly having problems installing Hebrew support on the cooked roms. For instance PDAC (one of the companies who make hebrew for PPC) told me that because their software detects my device as WM5 their licensing system won't allow me to install (by the way, is there a work around this problem? This is all legit of course I want to buy this software).
I'm not going to ask what are the official differences because I can find more than enough about it on the web, but is there really a technical reason to stay with a cooked WM6 (being somewhat buggy)? Besides being prettier are the cooked roms giving any advantage over WM5 ? From my understanding both operating systems are pretty much the same besides the included software.
Thanks
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By the way I want to emphasize that I REALLY TRULY appreciate the effort spent into making these cooked roms. SERIOUSLY. This isn't a complaint thread!
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Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
rumble291 said:
Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
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Perhaps I will downgrade temporarily. My main concern is Hebrew support. Besides that everything else works just fine.
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
ronaldphl said:
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
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What's the smart-dialing function? I never had WM5 so I don't know the difference in dialing.
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
And I actually managed to install Hebrew support! Yay!
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
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WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
DaVince said:
WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
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From the things I saw in the official O2 installation I made:
- Sim contacts don't appear as regular contacts
- Outlook looks like the horrible outlook I had in my old PocketPC2002
- The phone dialer is not responsive and very buggy
- Overall slower than WM6
I'm personally not having any problems with WiFi in WM6.
And yeah I don't use video call or MMS I don't use any G3 features.
Oh.. you used the official WM5 from O2. I wouldn't use that myself.. too darn slow and lots of missing features. I'm using Jwright's ROM... anyway, it's just personal preference. I'd rather have all the features that my Universal can offer with WM5 rather than have a better looking WM6 ROM with buggy and missing features.
Highly Recommend To Try Kamal's WM5 ROM (AKU 3.5)
I recommend to try Kamal's WM5 ROM. You guys won't regret it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319838
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hi.. i have a htc 8125 wizard, and i want to install wm6 to it, but i dont know what to do, yesterday i follow the cid unlock turtorial, mine is a G3, i want a good wm6 rom... if i could be original one of htc it would be great i need some help please, which one is the best for my wizard
I have an 8125 and I've tried a few... the NBD v. 9.1 not only looks nice, but comes with all the toys you'd want on it. It's also the only one that so far hasn't rebooted, froze, or basically not worked right. All the others gave me problems. NBD is stable, I hear less complaints from that compared to Black Diamond, for instance.
Here's a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325284
There's no official WM6 for the Wizard. Just follow the Wiki to know how to unlock your phone, then READ to choose which Rom suits your needs...
Read each one in this forum before you try. I looked them over and the best one i like was Touch No Evil. And I'm truly pleased. Was Decent in speed even without overclocking.
Went from a Molski Biz Wm5 rom. Faria makes popular roms too.
Just read each one.
You should give TNT5.0 a try. There are 3 different versions available for download. I personally have the touchflo edition installed on my phone and love it.
Please modify your thread name to better reflect your problem.
That way maybe more people may help you.
Also, please don't start a new "Which rom is the best" thread, as this has been asked too many times and you will only get different opinions. Try and see what you like, don't let others tell you that.
thans a lot
thanks a lot people, the only think that i dont understand is if this roms are based on WINDOWS MOBILE 6 or are modifed from WINDOWS MOBILE 5.... i want only wm6 thanks a lot..
As already said, WM6 was never officially released for the Wizard, so all the Custom Roms are based on other devices' WM6 Roms, and thus have a few bugs...
tmda?
in the unlock guides i see a wizards love and other tmda roms, for what is those? i think them are wm6 but that wizard love is so slow im tryin farias ripght know and i like it but its a little slow... another thing when i use windowws live it copy all my messenger contacts to the phone and all my mobile phone numbers dissapear thanks a lot.please i neeed one like Schap's 3.60a rom for hermes.. thanks a lot guys....
*SIGH* Just READ guy!
java
hi again guys i have some problems executing a software java that uses bluetooth, any idea how can i fix it thanks a lot....
I have my i-mate SP5 running wm6 Tornado Perfect English Edition as of now. However I want to downgrade it back to the official i-mate ROM as I'm parting ways with my SP5.
I have found this ROM on the club i-mate FTP. ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/i-mate_SP5_WWE_2.5.331.2.zip
Can I flash this ROM without modifying anything and get to back to the original ROM? I did the SuperCID when I was upgrading so is there anything similar I should do when I'm downgrading?
Any help much appreciated.
Just hard reset and run the RUU, or be safe, format BINFS first
Do you mean the file I mentioned above? Couldn't find RUU file on the club i-mate server.
RUU is basically the ROM im talking about here
From what I've seen, the stock ROMs (like the iMate one) are usually bigger than the cooked WM6 ROMs. So if you're uncomfortable with doing a format BINFS, you may be able to just download the file from the ftp site, and run it. You should be back to WM5.
Why are you going back anyway?
I'm also back at WM5... I tried to get along with the WM6 of Karhoe (who did a pretty good job) but I've got the problem with the time out delay at the incoming calls.
There I'm getting very much calls a day it was very frustrating to have that delay of 6-10 seconds...
Greetz
@Karhoe: I'm downloading the file I posted in the first post. That supppose to be the world wide english (WWE) version. What I'm trying to ask is that ROM only contain the OS, not the radio stack or IPL and other stuff? I just want it to return to the original wm5 OS while keeping other settings.
@bipinsen: Thanks for that. I got myself a iPhone and selling the SP5. I think it's better to sell with the original OS as there is more resources out there.
Basically most of the AKU2 ROMS contain a whole new IPL and radio stack I think, why don't you check with typhoonnbftool ?
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@bipinsen: Thanks for that. I got myself a iPhone and selling the SP5. I think it's better to sell with the original OS as there is more resources out there.
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Oooohhhh.. Now I'm envious!
I should think that selling it with WM6 should get you more buyers.
I look on Craigslist and rarely see WM6 phones. Annoys me. Part of why I chose HTC because I new I could buy it cheaper and upgrade it myself.
Just to update anyone who is interested I have downgraded using the ROM i mentioned in the first post. It was pretty straight forward; just have to run the installer.
@Exitao: I agree, but the buyer is more likely to find bugs in unsupported ROM. Now I have been using the wm5 ROM for few hours I notice how sluggish the official ROM is. Maybe I will give the buyer option to upgrade into the new ROM.
WM5 was always buggy, but so was WinCE3.0. Well, it is an MS product after all. They never got rid of the bugs, they just "upgraded" the OS.