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Sell PocketZenPhone ?

A liitle poll about PocketZenPhone.
I like to thank those who donate but I'm far from a XDA2.
To help me to buy one I think to buy PZP for 5/7€ (in fact 7€ because sale site such as handango keeps 30% of the price)
What do you think ?

I have the version 3.6, and I tried to make a donation, but Paypal doesn't support Slovenian credit cards.
So I will pay for your software for sure.
Excellent work Zendrui.
Bye by Urosh

I also had problems donating on PayPal with my American Express card - so would happily pay €7/$8.48 for your software.
I hope you get your XDA II very soon!

i think that you should but with shareware everywhere the problem is that it's often pretty easy to pay if you live in the same country or such as the person you want to pay but if you live on the northpole it's more of an issue
(not that i live on the northpole )

in this case it seems the only way to go... how much did you get by donations? can't remember the amount you mentioned here, but it's truly not going to be a 14590 bucks... that's the count of people visiting your site. imagine only the half has downloaded and everyone would have donated 1 little buck to you, that would be more than just one xda2. i think that's the world we are living in nowadays. everyone wants to get everything for free... sad story. good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world

For now I get 90€ ... if I sell it for 5/7€ maybe it could help me to approach the XDA2.
I'm not thinking to get many € but ...
Really the XDA2 is my only motivation to sell

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

I would think USD 20/15 EUR would be much more fair given the value we get.
Regards
Michael

So, where I can buy pocketzenphone? :wink:

how about having 2 PZP versions?
1. PZP lite which would be for free and only includes the basuc profile changing functions
2. PZP pro which would include all the sophisticated functions of timers and radio on/off and so on??
that way you could stand by your initial principle of free PZP while you could make some money for the XDA 2

i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story

Rabia said:
i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story
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Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.

iggy said:
Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.
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this is a good idea, travlers check would work with me or money wire through the bank or anything as long as we have a way

JaToAc said:
... good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world
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why protect it? sell it - and there will be more than enough people willing to pay. if i think of all the ppl having a pda and 99% of them have NO idea where to get warez.
i for myself would pay for it. i think 5.- is ok for a "little" tool for the pda.
regards ize|man

i bet there would be a lot of people willing to pay for pzp and i would bet up to €10 would be no problem to sell 4.x with all the funtions this build offers. i was more than happy to donate some € to zendrui in the beginning of pzp and would donate again some € if he would not go commercial. but if he is going to sell pzp count me in... but i would bet to see that on some place soon...

Hi,
I hope you got the EUR 10 from me !
I use the software regularly. It's great with my HBH 35 headset. I now do active sync only with bluetooth.
Regards, Dave

Rabias idea is the best, without doubt.
And yeah, only few people know how to get PPC warez.
But if you find it.. whoo... the possibilities - to test before buy!

:roll:

If someone find the manner to send the money from Slovenia I'll send it (7€) to Zendrui without Handango.
I think that you are right. Handango is for finding clients, but Zendrui just has clients (us). So it is stupid to give 30% to Handango only because we are not able to send the money to Zendrui.
Urosh

Cheap Line Rental and Calls

Is it appropriate to place a new Topic, that is an advertisement for my own business?
If I were to donate £10 for each person that takes up the service?

Here is the new link:
http://www.utilitywarehouse.co.uk/store/index.taf?exref=046145

Currently Telecom Plus are offering 3 months free calls to any number!
International, 0870, 0845, ANY number!
Got to be worth it just for the free calls.

could u stop advertising here!!

jfran said:
could u stop advertising here!!
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Are you the moderator here?
I have in fact asked permission for this, if it offends then I appologise, but you dont have to look.
The idea is to be able to give the OPTION to other users to get a cheap mobile SIM. Surely that is something of benefit to everybody, I have also offered to donate the money to the site!

what the?

I think this is terrible, check this out....
http://cgi.ebay.com/UNLOCK-Qtek-910...2QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43312QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

OMG That is just hillarious. Cant wait to see what Faria does lol

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What!!!!!!!!!
M?$%#r Fkr.

he is actually selling this stuff for 20 bucks????? i just cant even believe it!!!
This person now says the item location is in Amsterdam, same clown tho!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220123411063

Everyone sending ebay nice little letters? I did

Well...while I disagree with the sellers from an ethical view, the only thing they are doing illegal is using Faria's name as long as they purchase a legal license for Widnows Mobile 6 (if that's possible?). There are other ads selling this for up to $80 so far and they don't mention and rom cooker by name.
Very VERY unethical though...

Fraud On Ebay
There is so much illegal and unethical about this it makes me sick!!!!!!!!
ExploreMN said:
Well...while I disagree with the sellers from an ethical view, the only thing they are doing illegal is using Faria's name as long as they purchase a legal license for Widnows Mobile 6 (if that's possible?). There are other ads selling this for up to $80 so far and they don't mention and rom cooker by name.
Very VERY unethical though...
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damn you found my auctions
dude copied the wiki

this is almost comical...what an idiot

I really hate it when somebody steals my ideas.........
I'll do it for 15, But I will install ANTC latest........
Sorry ANTC couldn't resist, but still love u.

And the PIG has more for sale
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIMP-T-MOBILE-M...ryZ43312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

What is funny is that a couple of months ago i got a message ont his board for support for NTS vanilla that came on the guys phone when he bought it on ebay. He tried to tell me that I had to support him. I told him I didnt and he never replied. LOL.

Edited out for personal reasons. I don't want a future plea for help to be ignored ... "Oh it's that guy that stuck up for the eBay @$$h0!e. I ain't helping him!!!".

On that Pimp TMobile one on ebay this is an actual quote...
"It frustrates me that technology it held back by the greed inherrant in consumerism and so I release application..."
The only one that is greedy in my mind is him...Much thanks goes out to all of the rom cookers here and other helpers. I have a WM6 device and generally know what to do if something happens now. Again thank you to you all that are not like this individual....

ANTC said:
damn you found my auctions
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ROFL omg.
i thought you are serious for a while.

AFAIK This guy is doing nothing illegal (apart from referencing to Faria).
It IS unethical yes.
But arent there allways cheap bastards around like this one. For a lot of phones the unlock s/w is 'free', but still numerous people sell it as a service and charge up to 20 euro for it.
They make money using the knowledge of others (of which a lot are the active members on this forum) AND they mis-use the lack of knowledge a lot of phone owners simply have.
I would say 'ban him from ebay' goes a bit far, but cant we simply take him out of business by just starting another auction with reference to the right threads and not charge at all?? That WILL teach him.

i will vote yes ;P

The worst part...he is making money off the hard work of people on this forum.
I saw one auction had 5 bids and was near $80.00
I mean seriously...using upgrade discounts you can almost buy a whole new phone for that price.
So it makes one wonder...who is the bigger idiot. The guy selling the labor of others, or the people who buy it?

This, my friends, is how Bill Gates became Bill Gates.

Who wants a FREE FUZE!!!???

Letstalk.com offers the Fuze free after a rebate
and still cheaper out of pocket expense you only pay $99 and $99 back in the mail, beats paying $350 and getting 50 back
Also they will give you a free 2GB microSD card with adapter
i cant believe this deal its amazing
go to letstalk.com and search for FUZE
or click here
http://www.letstalk.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=34622&search=fuze
you can also PM me for a $25 off coupon!
MOE

Check it out
so with the coupon it will be $75 out of pocket and after rebate you make $25 u can use for TV-OUT cable
i think this is the best deal anywhere

Free Fuze has already been posted
Umm. That's already been covered Here. Please see my post in regards to this Here. Not to rain on your parade.
@ Mods: Please lock this thread.

Yea that is for NEW LINES only, The thread topic "how much did you pay for your fuze" it has been discussed, as well as the fact that letstalk.com is a terrible company to deal with. Even if you get a free fuze the conditions to get the rebates are a complete joke.
Gongrats on your redundant thread!
whoops, we were typing at the same time

KD8DNS said:
Yea that is for NEW LINES only, The thread topic "how much did you pay for your fuze" it has been discussed, as well as the fact that letstalk.com is a terrible company to deal with. Even if you get a free fuze the conditions to get the rebates are a complete joke.
Gongrats on your redundant thread!
whoops, we were typing at the same time
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That's pretty funny. Guess we will have to teach these noobs all over again.
Where's the guy with the Night Rider Gay thread picture?

i am so sorry i didnt see it!!

Verizon Wireless Developer Program

This is for any Verizon device, not just the Samsung Galaxy S5. Please spread this to other device forums!
Recently, I came up with an idea of a developer program. What this program would do is allow people to pay a fee to have their bootloaders unlocked, regardless of the device. This would allow people the freedom to modify their device or develop for it without any issues. I did a little research and could not find anything similar to this (besides developer edition devices). So, with this idea in mind, I sent an email to the Executive VP of Verizon. Twenty minutes later, I received a phone call from his office. Long story short (there was a lot of talk about rooting and unlocking), the guy who called me put my idea through to marketing. However, since only about 1% of customers root their devices, there is concern of the interest in this.
What this thread is for is to see how many people would be interested in this program.
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
$0
$5
$25
$50
$100
Please use only one of those five prices, and no other prices.
You may discuss this in further detail in this thread. However, arguing, trolling, slandering, bickering, and anything else that will clutter this thread and overwork the moderators WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. This thread is not the thread to argue with others over the details since the idea is already in marketing. If you wish to argue or troll, please take it somewhere else. And, as always, please follow the forum rules. Thank you for looking at this thread.
For those who are concerned with the warranty, please read this. Huge thanks to @shootind5nukes for this info.
Just so everyone knows the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prevents someone from totally VOIDING a warranty. Verizon/Samsung could only deny to warranty something if they can prove something you did cause the issue. Anything that has nothing to do with what you did still has to be under warranty. If you LCD started to lose color or get dead pixels that would still have to be covered because that has nothing to do with bootloaders and flashing ROMS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
"The federal minimum standards for full warranties are waived if the warrantor can show that the problem associated with a warranted consumer product was caused by damage while in the possession of the consumer, or by unreasonable use, including a failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance."
I learned about this when I was going to get my truck lifted. I was told if I did it would VOID my truck's warranty. After looking into it further it didn't actually VOID anything. But for example if I went in to get my suspension fixed because it broke they could argue that the lift kit put stress on the suspension and that's why it failed so they would not have to cover it. But if my motor exploded because it was made out of cheese it would still be under warranty, the entire warranty can never be voided. Only damage caused by what you did. Food for thought guys.
If anyone has anything to add please do.
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Here is the email of the VP I emailed if you want to email him about the developer program. Again, thank you @shootind5nukes for this idea.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/leadership/executive/profiles/david-small.html
IF YOU DO EMAIL HIM, BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL PLEASE.​

eragon5779 said:
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.

At this point I would be willing to pay a one time fee of $25. It makes sense it would be a charge since the dev edition has to be bought at full price.
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Verizon has alot of customers 1% is alot of people.

Great program, if implemented. Kudos for the idea AND getting a response! I would pay up to a hundred bucks for an official unlock like this, but I have ATT...

25 is fair, but I'd pay up to 50, if it included some insurance for the device. Is also say, that as an ATT customer, a service like this would tempt me to switch to Verizon

$25
From my SCH-I545 on HD15

I'm on ATT as well but would pay upto $50. But my question is if they give a way to unlock it, it would be universal thru all phones. So why wouldn't i just tell my friend. If they would do this why wouldn't they just charge an extra $50 on every phone and have every phone unlocked. No more hassle. Why are they so greedy? If it's only 1% that care about there freedom what would they loose? They would make tons more money.....
http://i.imgur.com/0OBoXTC.jpg

I agree w/ @Cat McGowan, devices should be open for development. And therefore would like to pay $0, but a $5 fee isn't too bad...

According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars

Long time lurker. Signed up just to post to this thread.
I voted for $50 because that seems reasonable but at this point ive been looking to buy a $200 device that is unlockable so i would really probably pay more for a clean, official unlock. I agree that the spirit of Android should be open and therefore unlocked for free but its obvious that OEMs dont feel this way and Google isnt likely to "pull an Apple" so to speak and tell OEMs to leave their devices unlocked.
How wonderful would it be to not have to risk bricking devices and staying one step ahead to keep root and ROM?!
If Big Red is talking about this then its a milestone indeed. For so long the official position has been to shut it down. Maybe all of our annoying voices are finally breaking through?
I for one, constantly post on their facebook page, email and frequently call just to bug em about this. Keep it up and step it up! Maybe we can get somewhere?
Edit: Which VP did you email? haha. Seems like everyone on their site is a VP of something or another. Maybe we could all make our voices heard together?

I'd pay $100 if i had to, but $50 is more realistic. If it was $100 i feel like that would dissuade enough people from spending that type of money to the point where community development is lacking , just like it is for locked down devices with only DevEd's as an option.
I really really hope something comes from this. TMo is just looking too good these days but i don't want to give up this network.

I would be comfortable with $25.00.

I'm with big blue, would pay 25 bucks in a heartbeat. 50... ehh, I'd be hesitant. This is the first device I've owned where I wasn't hellbent on unlocking the bootloader
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joshuabg said:
According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $100, but all of these choices seem reasonable to me. Obviously being able to do it for free would be optimal.
The quote above really isn't a great way of looking at it. Sure, $5M sounds like a lot, but taken in context it is a rounding error at a place like Verizon. That $5M isn't enough to move top line revenue by a single basis point, and therefore wouldn't be enough incentive to the bottom line. Even $100 for the 1.077M people would only add 10 basis points to top line revenue.
All that said, money can't be the sole factor for getting them to let us unlock the bootloaders. They would have to look at the goodwill it would create, and the new customers, as evidenced above, that they could steal away from the other carriers.

Personally I believe we should pay $0 as I paid for the device and should be allowed to do as I please with it. Realistically tho $5-$10 wouldnt be terrible
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I'd be willing to pay up to $50. I would think Verizon could easily steal some customers away from other carriers by offering something like this. However, I don't see any carrier offering any kind of warranty on a device that has had its bootloader modified. It would be very easy for a newb like myself to brick my device and then try to get another under warranty...

$25

Cat McGowan said:
$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
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This. All of this.

$25
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