Hello everybody
This poll is for testing how honest each network reseller is.
We need let everyone know who steal our money and who really do a good deal for us.
So, share your experience please whatever it's a good experience or a bad one.
Have they return a check for your checkback offer?
Have they deposit money into your bank for automatic moneyback offer?
Do they tell every different story when each time your apply moneyback?
Carphone warehouse sucks
i have problem with carphone warehouse since 2 years ago. In the first year, i have a checkback offer from them. I send my every bill to them on time, but no check come to me at all. I keep asking them for what happened, everytime they can tell a different story(for example, "we send a check to you, maybe get lost", "don't know why last time that customer adviser didn't do it, but now i have put a note on your file", "i have contacted redemption department, they will issue a check right now" and so on), they will always give you one same answer in the end --- wait another 28 days for issue another check!!!
Finally, they return all the checks to me when i say i can upgrade to a new contact with them. Due to the bad experience, i told their customer loyalty department that i don't like checkback offer when they push me upgrade to a new contract. Then, that guy told me:"no problem, this time we give u automatic moneyback. You don't need do anything. After the 4th bill and 10th bill, we will credit your bank £105 everytime".
See, what happened this year! My contract finish again, but no money come back to my bank account at all.:angry: When i ask about the automatic moneyback offer, carphone warehouse said they can only send me checks, and they even don't give a reason for why replace the autmatic moneyback to checkback!!!!!!
After that, I rang carphone warehouse customer service every month, however, always get the same answer like last year(wait another 28 days). Then, i go to their branch. Unbelievable, those stuff said, they don't do customer service, just let me call customer service center!!! Even, one or two of those stuff call their call center for me, they also get the same answer---wait another 28 days for issue a new check. The problem is i have been waitting for a whole year now!
In september, one customer service adviser told me, she put a note on my file:"if after 28 days customer don't get a check, we can refund money to his bank account". One and half month later after that call, i not receive any check from carphone warehouse yet. So, i have to rang the customer service center again. This time, their adviser finish my call as long as i tell them i wanna get my redemption!!! What a shame!!!
Thus, i went to a branch, the stuff there don't wanna handle this in the beginning. After many words, they aggree phone customer service center for me. Then, guess what answer they have this time?? You can't believe that! This time, they say, their stufff fill in a wrong application for my redemption last time, so no money can credit to my bank account and i have to wait another 28 days for a new check being issued!!! Now, i don't know what should i say to them.
hope everyone here can vote, then we can know which one good and which one sucks. This really help all the forum users here, because most of us use a contract phone from those network reseller.
Cheers.
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any advice on how to proceed with this one?
apologies for the length and also if its in the wrong forum... couldnt really work out where to put it
Sometime at the beginning of March i called and spoke to a guy in the Vodafone Cancellations team. I explained that i was looking to leave as they didn't have any data bundles.
He explained to me that I could change my contract to a new one which, for the same amount a month (£25) i could have 150 mins (instead of 125... but i would be losing the stop the clock, which i didn't much use anyway) and it would include a text message bundle.. which includes data. Now, I was aware that this USED to be the case (i even questioned him), but he assured me that this was the case as it was a new package. I explained what i use data for so he knew that it should be ok for me.
So i went along with it as it offered me a new phone for a reasonable cost.
I checked my bill for March and my Unbilled charges and it appears i have been charged for Data usage... to the sum of about £30.
To be honest i have little use for the contract if it doesn't include data... i use data for email (not vodafone) and general "emergency" surfing.
In my eyes i have been sold this contract under false pretenses and is tantamount to fraud. I am locked into a contract for 18 months which doesn't include the main selling point for me.
I've called them a couple of times now last week and all they have said is "ooh no the txt msg bundle doesnt include data"... which serves no purpose other than to wind me up. and tell me that the guy who sold it to me should ring me back.. (but he hasnt yet since last week)
:update: just called them again as they have yet to reply to an email i sent them laying out all the details. having explained it all about 3 times to various people i spoke to a woman who went off to check with manager (wouldnt let me speak to them though) and told me there is NOTHING they can do.. they just dont offer any data packages... she doesnt have access to recorded phone conversations and they dont record them all anyway! oooh but she said she would get the 30quid fee wavered from last month.
i asked just what use is that , i'm now stuck in a 18 month contract which i could have took out with a different company and had included data.. she sounded not particually bothered and offered no solution. i can cancel if i like and pay £350 cancellation charge. which is nice.
any ideas on how to proceed?
Well unless you signed a contract, they are trying to nail you to it by agreeing to a verbal contract, and acceptance of service.
You have used the services, and they have charged you for something you were told would be part of the bundle.
Now, on the face of it, that's still breach of contract, since you made a verbal agreement.
Unless they have evidence of this via a recorded call (which they should have to be honest) then tell them you are going to cancel the agreement due to their breach of contract unless they are willing to honour it.
If it means going to small claims court, then do it, I am fairly certain you would win either by cancellation of the remaining 17 months, or by them agreeing to give you the data.
If you are more interested in the data, then you can always write to their data protection governance officer, and request any and all information they hold on you, including recorded voice calls, it would be helpful if you could tell them the dates, and if this exists, they have to provide it to you by law.
Then you can use that as evidence to make them agree to the terms, or to cancel the contract.
I had a problem with T Mobile going back last year, and they would not cancel my contract, they only way I could get them to shift was to go to Trading Standards and get them involved - funny they seemed to be able to cancel the contract then.
I would suggest to sending the a letter (not email) and send it Registered Delivery (this always seems to suggest to them that this is the first stage in legal action).
interesting point about contacting the data person.
i've just called up Otella (is that spelt right?) the phone ombudsman and they told me to write an official letter explaining the problem and what i would like to get it resolved. then depending on the reply they would like to help me get it resolved. the fact i was going to leave and the cancellations team sold me the package to which i stayed with vodafone seems to slant to the positive for me..
i'd be too much of a wuss to be taken to court over it
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any advice on how to proceed with this one?
apologies for the length and also if its in the wrong forum... couldnt really work out where to put it
Sometime at the beginning of March i called and spoke to a guy in the Vodafone Cancellations team. I explained that i was looking to leave as they didn't have any data bundles.
He explained to me that I could change my contract to a new one which, for the same amount a month (£25) i could have 150 mins (instead of 125... but i would be losing the stop the clock, which i didn't much use anyway) and it would include a text message bundle.. which includes data. Now, I was aware that this USED to be the case (i even questioned him), but he assured me that this was the case as it was a new package. I explained what i use data for so he knew that it should be ok for me.
So i went along with it as it offered me a new phone for a reasonable cost.
I checked my bill for March and my Unbilled charges and it appears i have been charged for Data usage... to the sum of about £30.
To be honest i have little use for the contract if it doesn't include data... i use data for email (not vodafone) and general "emergency" surfing.
In my eyes i have been sold this contract under false pretenses and is tantamount to fraud. I am locked into a contract for 18 months which doesn't include the main selling point for me.
I've called them a couple of times now last week and all they have said is "ooh no the txt msg bundle doesnt include data"... which serves no purpose other than to wind me up. and tell me that the guy who sold it to me should ring me back.. (but he hasnt yet since last week)
:update: just called them again as they have yet to reply to an email i sent them laying out all the details. having explained it all about 3 times to various people i spoke to a woman who went off to check with manager (wouldnt let me speak to them though) and told me there is NOTHING they can do.. they just dont offer any data packages... she doesnt have access to recorded phone conversations and they dont record them all anyway! oooh but she said she would get the 30quid fee wavered from last month.
i asked just what use is that , i'm now stuck in a 18 month contract which i could have took out with a different company and had included data.. she sounded not particually bothered and offered no solution. i can cancel if i like and pay £350 cancellation charge. which is nice.
any ideas on how to proceed?
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i have exactly the same problem as you last month as well, vodafone told me my contract include data, but my bill ends up with £137!!!! I phone up a few time and they told me the data bundle only include 50mb, and they say i use 98mb so they charge me the extra, i wanted to cancel the contract as well, but they say i can't......unless i pay £350. Great, stuck with this useless contract now....should have gone to T-mobile.
Anyway, they also told me Vodafone is coming up with new data package on may, so hopefully the plan is good then i will change my price plan.
Well, I hate it when I need to cancel a contract. I always get those X months free contracts I can get from whatever companies that is able to offer that. As such, I usually cancel my contract every 12 months (yes, I mass SMS all my friends the new number, good way to filter out friends ). And I had enough of their silly efforts of trying to stop you from getting off their contract, and now, after few years of improvements, it seems that the good 'reason' to tell them is that you are leaving the country Pretend that you are from somewhere else, pretend that you are going else where to get a job. It is easy for them (I think they may get into trouble if their call/leave rate is too high) and easy for you.
As for your current contract, it is unlikely they do not have their phone conversation recorded. In that case, there is no proof that you are actually in a contract anyway. I think you need to find some organization that deals with consumer affairs.
I had some problems getting an XDA Exec repaired with O2 - they kept wanting to give me a basic Nokia as a loan phone while it was done (and that's simply no substitute for an exec).
I eventually paid for an insurance claim when they said I could get it swapped that way but when that one was faulty too, I played merry hell with them...and got absolutely nowhere. I talked to loads of different people and managers and just ended up going round in circles - either I made another claim on the insurance or accepted a basic nokia for the weeks my phone would be being repaired.
So, I found out who the CEOs of O2 UK and O2 worldwide were and emailed them. My phone was replaced free of charge the next day and they refunded my insurance claim excess.
Major kudos to O2 for sorting out the problem, bad that it took them so long.
The point though is not to let them push you around. You're paying them for a service. They *need* the business of people like you. Don't be....
too much of a wuss
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....and let them get away with it. All the laws of the land are on your side. There's nothing to be scared of
I understand there's a section of their contract that says that if they increase a price and your monthly costs rise by more than a certain amount (without your usage pattern changing) you can cancel.
Someone on DigitalSpy.co.uk was having a similar problem with Voda's data charges.
hmmm.. just checked their new data tarriff. and its complete crap. making out that its such a great deal. £1 a day for up to 15mb usage. thats £30 quid a month then just for data.. sod that. tmobile's web and walk is only 7quid and no upper limit (not that i would use more than a meg or two a day anyway)
grr
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hmmm.. just checked their new data tarriff. and its complete crap. making out that its such a great deal. £1 a day for up to 15mb usage. thats £30 quid a month then just for data.. sod that. tmobile's web and walk is only 7quid and no upper limit (not that i would use more than a meg or two a day anyway)
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hey, where do you see the new data plan? do you mind to post a link?
Hi,
I had problems with service providers in the past as well (TV companies, phone companies and ISP's).
They all work with the following objective: to get the maximum profit, serving the worst possible service/support. If you look at this fact from an economic point of view, you will find that this is really the most profitable way of doing it, though the end-user probably will not be very satisfied with it.
Anyway: the best thing to do are the following rules:
1) Write them a registred letter explaining the facts.
2) Explain them what contract you where talked into.
3) Explain them that you only accept exactly that service.
4) Explain them that you give them two weeks to sort things out.
5) Explain them that after those two weeks, you either get an acceptable answer (i.e. they cancel the contract or provide you with the service they promised), or you cancel the contract because they where not able to provide you with the promised service.
6) Explain that in this last case you will cancel all payments.
7) DO NOT PAY. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONTRACT, UNLESS THEY PROVIDE YOU WITH a) a signed contract or b) a recorded call.
Don't be a wuss, because they are sharks. Treat them like a hunter!
Cheers,
vma
some great tips the only thing is if you dont pay as some peeps suggest you might get a default credit against you and if you have bad credit you might not be able to get credit with another operator in the worst posible case.
If it would get that far, legal advice should be mandatory.
Cheers,
vma
cheers guys.
the vodafone tariff details is at www.vodafone.co.uk/dataprices
Lets start from the beginning.
Earlier in the day, I received an e-mail from AT&T, and I checked it after I reached home. Here is the e-mail:
Cellular Telephone number: 340[edited]
Returns Authorization Number: RMA[edited]
AT&T - Order Status Update
Dear [edited],
On behalf of all AT&T employees, thank you for being a part of the largest
digital network in America. Your replacement order has been received. We
will inform you via email when your replacement order has been shipped.
We look forward to servicing your wireless needs for a long time to come.
Sincerely,
AT&T
NOTE: This is an automated email. Please do not reply to this email.
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I didn't ask for an RMA, let alone even file for insurance. I quickly called up AT&T Business Care and the lady told me that I filed insurance claims for 3 phones on 3 out of the 4 lines on my account, but the RMA number was 'too fresh' to bring back any details. All she told me was that the claim was filed d January 26th, and it might take a few days to process and get the phones.
Still confused, I called up my sleeping dad (only other authorized user) to ask him if he did anything with insurance today. He quickly explained no, and that I was interrupting his sleep...
I logged into OLAM and started chatting with Tech Support, and the rep gave me all the details, saying that I claimed for a Fuze, A737, and A517 today through insurance. 'I' also requested overnight delivery, and he gave me the tracking number to go along with it. I would have the package delivered to an address in MARYLAND!! I live all the way in the Virgin Islands, and I never even been or even know anyone in Maryland. Freaky.
After a good 15 minutes trying to explain that I didn't authorize anything, he basically told me to call Asurion and the Fraud Dept. to solve all my troubles. Of course, Asurion and the fraud dept. are now closed, so I have to wait until morning...
Long story short, someone got a replacement Fuze for free. I hope they treat it well...
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I do have the person's physical address, as they are shipping it there...I already contacted several local and MD police departments, but they said to wait until Asurion gets a hold of FedEx and have it re-routed back. The offender would need my social, phone #, and first and last name get through...
Wouldn't they have to know your Social Security information to access all of that? Either they had this planned out relaly well or some huge erratum.
that's really messed up! I hope things get sorted out for you. if you want you can also file an identity theft report w/ FTC https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
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I got through Asurion and the Fraud Dept. and they stopped and is returning the phones to AT&T...
Whoever filed the claim DID have my Name, phone number and social. My dad and I have the same names (I'm a junior ) but we'll both file a report with the local police department. Ironically, my dad has been and is currently a police for 20+ years.
Asurion WOULD NOT give out the name of who filed the claim in the first place, or any details without a court order, it seems.
Yea but if you have the shipping address and you use Google I'm sure you can find some juicy details on the person trying to ruin your life. (If the guy is a complete moron and used his actual address)
if you send me $100 through paypal i will leave a horse head in there bed for you
^^^LMAO!!!
@ bigb252 - Nice catch, good to see this creep is gonna get what he deserves.
Three months after signing up with T-Mobile, I was already considering dropping their service and going back to Sprint or switching to Virgin Mobile. Why? Here goes...
I signed up for service online, paid the $100 deposit, got the 500 Minute Value Talk plan w/the 2GB Data Plan. I then chose my free G2x and successfully submitted my order. Waited several days to check the status of my order online and saw that my order had been shipped. In order to verify the status, I then called Customer Care and then...the headaches began.
According to everyone I spoke with the phone had not been sent, but they were making sure the phone would be delivered. I must have spoken to several agents until one of them, eventually said the plan was not eligible for a Free Phone. "But I successfully completed the order!"
I eventually bought an HTC MyTouch 4G from another T-Mobile customer who had the phone for a little over a month and had bought a different model. I rooted my phone and never had any extreme problems, other than download speed up until recently, when the Camera and Camcorder crapped out on me. Restored back to stock and tried other ROMS. I also followed suggestions posted in many threads addressing the issue with the cameras, flashing different "Camera" apps, and nothing.
Having gone through many hours of trying to fix my phone, I called HTC to gather as much info on my particular device. They stated the year warranty would expire in April of this year and they would gladly fix the phone for me for free, but I would incur a charge if they found I had voided the warranty. They emailed me an RA form, but I decided to speak to someone at T-Mobile, and based on the info I provided them, they promised a replacement device, but requested my phone's software version. I told them I would call back from another device the following day since I had some "errands" and stuff to do.
I then restored my phone to stock, restored S-On, ran the updates on my device and then called T-Mobile, but then they rejected my request after the replacement was promised by a Supervisor in Tech Support. All they needed to do was verify the IMEI and presto, but I was not able to get my way, so I just left it alone. A week later, I had some voice issues in which I wasn't able to make or receive calls even after removing the battery from the phone, until I was able to get a Customer Care agent who seemed to be outside the Continental U.S. This nice fellow interrupted me while I was explaining my situation to him and said he was going to transfer me to an Account Specialist based on the information he'd seen in the notes. After I asked why, he stated they valued me as a new T-Mobile customer. I was like, "Whatever".
Upon doing a warm-transfer, a young lady by the name of Ashley, indicated she was going to talk to a supervisor and I asked if there was something wrong with my account, but she refused to give me any info. After coming back on the line, she stated her sup had authorized a replacement ticket which was being emailed to me while we spoke, in which they would replace my MyTouch 4G at no cost to me. Imagine that! She apologized on behalf of the company for the misinformation I was given at time and the poor customer service. Three months of crappy overall service and I got a new phone! My download speeds on the bad device were less than 2000kbps. Now, they're at a high 6000kbps.
That girl and the small group of dedicated T-Mobile employees who go beyond their call of duty, deserve an applause. My contract and plan stayed the same. There are good folks at T-Mobile...you just have to keep trying.
Man. What a pain. If you had raised a fuss initially, you could have gotten your G2X. A contract is a contract and you signed up for a free G2X, which their system sold you. I'm pretty sure they were legally bound to give you one. Did you have a receipt?
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estallings15 said:
Man. What a pain. If you had raised a fuss initially, you could have gotten your G2X. A contract is a contract and you signed up for a free G2X, which their system sold you. I'm pretty sure they were legally bound to give you one. Did you have a receipt?
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Not only did I have a printed one, but snapshots and HTML code from the actual page. Believe me, I wanted to raise hell at first, but I thought it would be a waste of time. While with Sprint, I like others, had access to the Sprint Executive Customer Service Hotline number thanks to The Consumerist, but with T-Mobile I just felt I was out in the cold from Day 1.
The phone replacement doesn't change my perception of their overall Customer Care and Retention Department. One of the last persons I spoke to before talking to the gentleman and Ashley, was a rep from their Spanish-speaking Retention Department. I asked for at least one minimal incentive for me to stay with T-Mobile and her answer was this: "I cannot provide you with even the slightest discount because you are a new customer." Yeah...but one who's paying for a service.
I wish I had stayed with Sprint. I worked for them through ACS in their Tech Support Department. When the store reps wouldn't deliver, we'd jump in and prevent even an escalation to retention. I guess that's what keeps me ticked off at them. I hate not getting the service I strive to always provide my customers with.
I'll stay with them til after my contract is over
I have never experienced bad customer service through my 3 years with T-Mobile, but then again, I never really needed it throughout the time. I got a replacement phone on Monday, and the lady I talked to for it was very kind and polite.
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I have never experienced bad customer service through my 3 years with T-Mobile, but then again, I never really needed it throughout the time. I got a replacement phone on Monday, and the lady I talked to for it was very kind and polite.
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Wow...I guess because you've been with them for a while. Glad they were able to help you and be nice about it to.
My wife and I couldn't pass up TMos 2 for $99 /mo plan but it took 7 different reps to get that sorted out cuz no one had heard of it ... even though it was all over the radio and on their homepage! - Gotta say they were quite ready to help even if they didn't seem to know what they were doing.
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My wife and I couldn't pass up TMos 2 for $99 /mo plan but it took 7 different reps to get that sorted out cuz no one had heard of it ... even though it was all over the radio and on their homepage! - Gotta say they were quite ready to help even if they didn't seem to know what they were doing.
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Had same prob till I found someone who told me I had to pay $200 per line migration fee. Been with tmo for 6 years but if I pay$200 a line its going to be to cancel... when I started they were great even gave me free month when messed up bill but recently when renewed had to call 10 times to get texting cuz every bill was 800 and they said they fixed but still have to call every month
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Well, this is my 6th G2X from T-Mobile. I kept sending it back under warranty and receiving a refurbished phone that ended up giving me the same problems (I'm assuming if it SEEMS fine they just brand it refurbished and send it back out to save $$$). Of course, it's giving me all sorts of problems again but it's no longer under the t-mobile warranty (90 days for a refurbished phone is kind of ****ing stupid). It's less than a year old so it SHOULD be covered by LG.. The only problem is the IMEI of the phone says it's older than a year (because someone else had it before me) so they won't fix it unless I provide some PHYSICAL proof of purchase that has the date received and IMEI on it.
Here's the part that is driving me insane:
I call T-mobile and they say "Sure! Here's an order ID, just give that to LG and it will work. Don't worry". Even after questioning them multiple times they sounded very confident. I called LG and nope, nothing they can do with that so I call T-Mobile again and she tells me "just give them your IMEI, when they look it up it will have all that information". Again, she reassured me even after I asked over and over if she was sure so I called LG and they told me there's no such information and even though I argued and argued they wouldn't budge. So.. I call T-Mobile AGAIN and they tell me they will send out a receipt with all the information I need and they're so so sorry. I wait a week and nothing so I call back again and they don't even have a memo of what the CS said he would do and then told me there's no way they can help me. He then told me they would give me an early upgrade which was complete bull**** because the "upgrade" they offered was already available for me online. It's not a true upgrade, more like a 20% discount off a full price phone.
I'm at my wits end. I got this phone because of the hype and all that and now I have a phone that is technically under warranty but there's not a damn thing I can do about it. I've heard stories of people e-mailing the executives and getting stuff handled that way.. Would that be an option for me?
Keep badgering tmo about this, try and talk to a higher rank person each time.
Don't let them take advantage of you.
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Xura08 said:
Well, this is my 6th G2X from T-Mobile. I kept sending it back under warranty and receiving a refurbished phone that ended up giving me the same problems (I'm assuming if it SEEMS fine they just brand it refurbished and send it back out to save $$$). Of course, it's giving me all sorts of problems again but it's no longer under the t-mobile warranty (90 days for a refurbished phone is kind of ****ing stupid). It's less than a year old so it SHOULD be covered by LG.. The only problem is the IMEI of the phone says it's older than a year (because someone else had it before me) so they won't fix it unless I provide some PHYSICAL proof of purchase that has the date received and IMEI on it.
Here's the part that is driving me insane:
I call T-mobile and they say "Sure! Here's an order ID, just give that to LG and it will work. Don't worry". Even after questioning them multiple times they sounded very confident. I called LG and nope, nothing they can do with that so I call T-Mobile again and she tells me "just give them your IMEI, when they look it up it will have all that information". Again, she reassured me even after I asked over and over if she was sure so I called LG and they told me there's no such information and even though I argued and argued they wouldn't budge. So.. I call T-Mobile AGAIN and they tell me they will send out a receipt with all the information I need and they're so so sorry. I wait a week and nothing so I call back again and they don't even have a memo of what the CS said he would do and then told me there's no way they can help me. He then told me they would give me an early upgrade which was complete bull**** because the "upgrade" they offered was already available for me online. It's not a true upgrade, more like a 20% discount off a full price phone.
I'm at my wits end. I got this phone because of the hype and all that and now I have a phone that is technically under warranty but there's not a damn thing I can do about it. I've heard stories of people e-mailing the executives and getting stuff handled that way.. Would that be an option for me?
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ask for customer loyalty dept.
been with tmo 10 years, they do what i ask when i say ill cancel and they can stand in line with their hand out like all the other bill collectors cause they ain't getting **** else from me.
They always work something out with me.
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justjackyl said:
ask for customer loyalty dept.
been with tmo 10 years, they do what i ask when i say ill cancel and they can stand in line with their hand out like all the other bill collectors cause they ain't getting **** else from me.
They always work something out with me.
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The people I talked to were actually part of that department. I always say "retention" when the automated voice asks what I want and it sends me there. I guess I'll just keep calling them and maybe even ask to speak to a supervisor. Do you guys have any idea what I should ask for specifically? I've heard of some people getting entirely free phones because of crazy situations but I don't want to flat out ask for one
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The people I talked to were actually part of that department. I always say "retention" when the automated voice asks what I want and it sends me there. I guess I'll just keep calling them and maybe even ask to speak to a supervisor. Do you guys have any idea what I should ask for specifically? I've heard of some people getting entirely free phones because of crazy situations but I don't want to flat out ask for one
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I've dealt with T-Mobile retention more than I care to discuss, normally they'll find some way to reel me back in.
Has your relationship with T-Mobile lasted longer than 2 years? (Have you renewed a contract previously)
I ask because most (all?) cell providers in the US will not direct you to an actual Retention Rep until your account has aged beyond 1 contract term, instead you are re-directed to the escalation unit of the sales dept and they generally don't do anything useful.
Under the assumption that you have had your contract longer than 2 years, it sometimes helps to have inside information on how the retention process works in order to "sway" the rep into getting what you need. I've worked in a contact center for 2 major carriers and what's important is a rep's "Stats". For the retention dept the biggest ones are retention rate and 7 day repeat calls. Retention rate for T-Mobile is now different because of their new rate plan/phone structure and is likely irrelevant. However 7 day repeat calls are generally the basis for any rep to be judged on.
Speak to the rep in the most pleasant manner you can, and put the responsibility on them to help you find a resolution to your problem. Literally ask for their help, and ask realistic solutions to your issue. These are normally BS script replies, but it's all a game anyway. Next tell them what you want, and be firm (but still nice) about it. Let them know you have every intention of calling and speaking with as many people as required in order to resolve this concern, as you believe T-Mobile as your "service" provider should be responsible for your satisfaction. Be clear that you are not asking for the latest and greatest super phone, but it does need to function in the manner in which you were informed it would. This is a frustrating issue and you've wasted enough time trying to get some sort of result, and will continue searching for a resolution over the next couple of days if required. ** Retention Reps get a bonus based on the fact that their customer's wont be calling back and random surveys that are sent out **
While I wouldn't recommend leveraging the surveys as a negotiation point or even the fact that you know about their metrics, simply let them know your intention. Mention the fact you've already called several times already, and are becoming frustrated.
Asking for a manager in this situation often leads no where, management does not have stats (their bonus is based on their reps) and does not have their calls recorded or monitored by quality. It's much more difficult for a rep to say "no" then it will be for their manager.
If none of that works, you might just be SOL. I really hate to say it, but they aren't obligated to do anything about it (which is more BS in your case). Just do what you can, be nice, and hope for the best. I know when I was on the phones, if someone asked be for something with an attitude they didn't get anything in return for it.
Biohazard0289 said:
I've dealt with T-Mobile retention more than I care to discuss, normally they'll find some way to reel me back in.
Has your relationship with T-Mobile lasted longer than 2 years? (Have you renewed a contract previously)
I ask because most (all?) cell providers in the US will not direct you to an actual Retention Rep until your account has aged beyond 1 contract term, instead you are re-directed to the escalation unit of the sales dept and they generally don't do anything useful.
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I've been a customer since 07'. It was originally a flexpay account and then about 1 3/4 years ago I upgraded to the regular contract.
I'm not sure how far I should try and push them because I've heard stories from a friend who had problems and they sent her a new smartphone (When the Galaxy SII was big). I just got off the phone with the retention guy and he gave me this offer: upgrade to the new "value plan" that's not a contract and he would waive the $50 fee (I am eligible on 4/5, and it would be free then) however I would have to pay ~$250 for a Samsung Galaxy SII. Does that sound fair? Or should I hold out for a better offer, because when I told him I would just call back again later to resolve this and I appreciated his help he said "Well, hold on, how about I waive the fee and try and get you with a new phone today?"?
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I've been a customer since 07'. It was originally a flexpay account and then about 1 3/4 years ago I upgraded to the regular contract.
I'm not sure how far I should try and push them because I've heard stories from a friend who had problems and they sent her a new smartphone (When the Galaxy SII was big). I just got off the phone with the retention guy and he gave me this offer: upgrade to the new "value plan" that's not a contract and he would waive the $50 fee (I am eligible on 4/5, and it would be free then) however I would have to pay ~$250 for a Samsung Galaxy SII. Does that sound fair? Or should I hold out for a better offer, because when I told him I would just call back again later to resolve this and I appreciated his help he said "Well, hold on, how about I waive the fee and try and get you with a new phone today?"?
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Keep track of names, dates, times called, use that information to ding previous agent, than next agent knows you'll do same to them
It may take a couple cycles of this but you'll find someone that after enough callbacks, will offer you a good deal.
Everyone's experience is different, also, when you get Akmhad the Indian on the line and he says his name is Dave, politely state that you cannot understand their accent and requested a native english speaker or to be transferred to another agent cause you can't understand, and hopefully that will dump you back in queue and get you into an American call center, this is how I've done it, and I find the girls with a.southern usa accent are the easy ones to work on to get what you want.
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justjackyl said:
I find the girls with a.southern usa accent are the easy ones to work on to get what you want.
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This is true on so many levels
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This is true on so many levels
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Ohhh man. lmao
I'm gonna regret saying that in such a "general" way. lmfao
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Has any one else in US run into this problem with OnePlus? I submitted my OnePlus 6T for trade in and it was accepted. On June 26th I got an email that the cash bask was on its way. When it was overdue more than 3 weeks I contacted their customer service. My trade in record on the website says paid, but I have not received any form of payment. I have been going around in circles with them for a week now. I keep asking them to check their detailed records to see how they sent me a payment. At first they asked me for my bank account records to show that I have not received a payment. I never gave OnePlus any bank account information, so I do not know what they were talking about, maybe they do this in other countries, but they never asked for this in the trade in application process. I explained that I paid by credit card and again asked them to check their detailed records, they surely must have a record of how they supposedly sent my cash back. Their customer service has been a nightmare, they only send back the same statement over and over, that the record shows as paid. They do not seem to be able (or refuse) to offer any proof of payment. My frustration level is off the charts as I always thought OnePlus was a reputable company, but at this point their customer service has no interest in treating this as a reputable concern.
Don't know what to say honestly. I never do this sorry if thing. Much earlier to sell in swappa.com and you get hundreds more for selling there then a trade in program.
Sorry you're going through this but in the future, use swappa
Bummer! I also wouldn't use the trade in and sold my S10+ on eBay.
Next time use Swappa, it's trusted and u will get more for it.
Update oneplus has credited my credit card account as promised - they have restored my faith in the company