Reducing the Automatic Send/Receive Time in WM6 Messaging (Outlook) - General Topics

Hi,
I am using the built in Messaging Client(Pocket Outlook) in Windows Mobile 6 to send/receive IMAP4 Email Accounts.
Is there a way to reduce the Automatic Send/Receive time in the settings ? The minimum setting that is allowed(shown) is 5 minutes. I want to set something like 1 or 2 minutes. Is that possible via a registry hack or some other procedure ?
I am using a At&t Tilt (HTC Kaiser).
Thanks,
Hrishi

hellllp!
Anyone manage to find a way to do this? Much appreciated !

try flexmail (www.webis.net) you can choose sync time of 1 min or even better use "imap idle" (basically direct push for imap) if your imap server supports it, gmail does so I'm fine!

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please please telll of a solution. i know what is asked is nearly puch email but i hate black b so in that case i need atleast refresh rate of 1 minute. is there a twaek or smething. btw my fone is HTC diamond rom 1.93.
i like using the original outlook so please just a tweak would be fine.
hopeful

I can recommend other solution to resolve your problem.
First you need this:
MortScript HERE
and you have to create txt file with extension *.mscr (just save as)
then put this code in text file:
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current = ActiveProcess()
If ( current eq "tmail.exe" )
Close( "Messaging" )
EndIf
eMailAccount1 = "GMAIL"
Run( "\windows\tmail.exe", "-Service """ & eMailAccount1 & """ -Sync" )
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Explanation:
GMAIL - it's name of email account in PDA
This script just run tmail.exe and start SEND AND RECEIVE emails.
In documentation of MortScript is hit, that you can rename the one .exe to same name as has the script with this code above and run script with this .exe file. It is really great.
Last step is run .exe in specify time with other programs, for example:
- Activekitten Chronos HERE
- PA Alarm HERE
or other free softwares. It's up to you what you choose.

hi, i am a fresh bird of this item.
can you tell me how to use the param of the tmail.exe such as -Sync

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Auto-delete emails?

Hello Everyone,
I have a T-Mobile USA SDA and had a problem with emails on the device.
Not sure if it is working as designed or if there was a blug, so I thought I would float it by you guys.
Setup:
Mail client on T-Mobile USA SDA
Configured manually to check pop and send smtp with my gmail account. It is set such that the message headers are downloaded first.
I connect WIFI and send/recieve
I receive a header I had sent myself for testing
I click on it and select to download the message body.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and receive.
I receive the message body.
I read it.
I go back to the inbox.
I do send and recieve.
Result:
The message is removed without a trace. it is not put into deleted items folder, nor does it remain in the inbox folder.
Is this expected behavior? I am not allowed to store mail on my device? Is there a registry setting to change this behavior? There is no options within the application. Is there a registry setting to change wheremails are stored in general? thanks for seeing the barrage of questions!
Yes I got the same result with you. Mine is a Dopod 577w (Tornado in Taiwan). This behaviour also happens to other mail servers.
ni hao,
I had searched a bit about it and found some places explain it. The explanation sounds weak, but it looks like something we will have to live with until either gmail or ms changes their server or client software.
USENET:
Sat, Mar 4 2006 7:24 am
The problem is with the default behaviour of Gmail - it will "hide" all the
already-downloaded mail. Unfortunately, it seems not even now that the beta
phase is long over can you effectively override this behaviour - the POP3
radio buttons just don't stick in the Settings window.
Therefore, the best solution IMHO is switching to an alternative e-mail
client that doesn't remove the messages that are not available online any
more from the local view. The alternative mailer clients FlexMail and Qmail
are like so - see the row "Does it only display mail that is still on the
server? " in the comparison chart of my mailer client roundup at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1 . Of the two,
FlexMail offers scheduling capabilities.
PocketPC MAG:
Does it only display mail that is still on the server? : one of the most-criticized problems with Messaging is that it does not show older messages (messages that have been deleted in the meantime) in the Inbox unless you explicitly (mass-)move them to a separate folder. As can be seen, it's, in addition to Messaging, only nPOPw that deletes the messages from the local view that don't exist on the server any more. The other mailer applications don't.
I might just write a pop/smtp client software myself. Much easier to tweak it to do what I need it to do, and in my previous job I worked for an email client so I know those protocols well. I probably won't add advanced functionality or IMAP/Exchange, because I have no individual use for those.
Very Useful info.
My current solution to this issue is Outlook & ActiveSync. Just download your mail to PC and sync. Mail in mobile Outlook account will not disappear unless you delete them.
By the way, I think Gmail mobile website is also okay for mail browsing & composing.
(it is not a good experience posting reply here using Pocket IE)
I'd like to write a mail client using .NET CF just for fun if I have time. I'm not a C++ guy.

disspearing email on GMail solved

hi there!
just thought i'd share my 2 pence worth:
i use pocket outlook to access my gmail account, however the emails have a funny habit of "dissapearing" after being downloaded. this is probably due to gmail's automatic removal of downloaded emails.
as work around is stated here:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=47948
this will allow you to retain emails (both read and unread) from the last 30 days in your pop inbox. which should b ample time for you to decide what to and not to copy
in short:
instead of logging on using:
Code:
user
use instead:
Code:
recent:user
hope this helps someone.
tian
hope this helps someone.
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It helps
Thank you !
you could also just switch from "get full copy of message" to "get message header only". enable the message body box and set to 999kb. that will keep messages on your mobile device indefinately.
i dont remember if that works or not for me - i usually download full messages as i hate having to connect twice (especially being on the w'n'w data plan )
now if only i spent the past week revising for tomorrow's exam rather then researching how to set up my pda...
doesn't seem to work for me. the downloaded email is still deleted after a send/receive
using pocket outlook on treo 750v
what settings do you have for: "Only display messages from the last XX days"?
(i'm now having the opposite problem... it seems that even after i've deleted a email, it comes back after a while )
tian
here are my settings
username recent:[email protected]
password: xxxxxxxx
only display messages from the: unchecked
require ssl connection: checked
outgoing mail req. authentication: checked
get full copy of messages
incoming: pop.gmail.com
outgoing: smtp.gmail.com
what settings do you have?
i've got the same except:
only display the messages from the last 3 days
btw. in my outlook options under storage i also have:
manually remove email
I also have delete items manually. I will try out 3 days and see what happens.
My account configuration is the same for both outlook and pocket outlook, except the username : it is my full gmail address for outlook contrary to pocket outlook which does have my full address with the "recent:" prefix...
Everything is working fine, I have all my mails retrieved in outlook and all my mail from the last 30 days in pocket outlook...
To prevent it from being deleted, make a sub Folder within Inbox, move all your wanted mails into the new folder, well, it will never be deleted. Hope this simple solution is helpful to all.

Gmail on WM

Gents,
i can not run Gmail on my HTC.
What i mean is that the website works fine but i can not install the Java Applet to use Gmail faster and smarter.
Anyone has the same problem?
How to sort it out?
thanks
Why not configure the outlook on your PDA to connect whith IMAP to the gmail server?
could be a solution
but i like the "gmail" inbox format to manage mails.
in any case i will try also imap
There are apps for the threaded view in outlook for WM6, and if I remember correctly WM 6.1 supports it natively...
i don't want to be boring but i can't understand why this f.... htc could not download this aplet:
Could some one try?
Just open this link from the mobile gmail.com/app
Answer: HTC products aren't simple phones that need ****ty JAVA apps to access services... And I'm sure as hell I wouldn't want to use a JAVA app for checking my mail, when the Pocket Outlook does a great job. Also there was no JAVA enviroment included until WM6 came (and some WM5 distributions).
btw, it is working for me....
gmail java app => solution
Hello, i'm french, so sorry for my english.
I had a problem with gmail too, but i tried a solution and it was a success.
I downloaded "opera mini" (java app).
i launched "opera mini" and used it to download gmail app.
The default file that is downloaded from the gmail site is a *.jad file, this file contains information about the the actual program file (*.jar), like where is it found, size, author,...
If you open the *.jad file whith the included JAVA enviroment, it should automatically download the *.jar file and install it. Through the installation it should ask about internet connections, and about access priviliges.
Also applets that use the web connection need to be confirmed each time they want to connect.
The method of how do you download the *.jad file shouldn't matter, because the JAVA enviroment App handles it, not the browser....
SORTED OUT
the problem is the Italian version of the Applet Java.
I have tried the english version and works fine.
VERY GOOD!!!
I don't understand why people go with Java apps when there's an alternative PPC app that will do the same thing.
For example users in the US/UK that install Google Maps over Microsoft Live Search. I'm all for Google products, but credit is given where credit's due, and Live Search absolutely kills Google Maps.
I've tried using GMail through my WM device before and the reason why i don't use it is that when I send an E-Mail to someone I always get a copy of what i just sent arriving in my inbox again. it's annoying, the Java Client is much better.
Then leave the POP3 configuration and use IMAP
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=75725
It has only advantages over the POP3, more secure, more functions,...
GMail WM Push & SFR...
Hi guys !
Has anyone found a solution to create a "Push mode" on GMAIL mobile ? My problem is that with the SFR contract (Illimythics), the web can only be accessed on http (wap SFR) => & therefore, you can't setup a classic Outlook/Pop mailbox.
You're then obliged to use a GMAIL app. but :
1) with the standard configuration, each time GMAIL connects to the Internet, you'll need to allow it (first message "MIDIet Gmail pas fiable needs to send & receive..." bla bla; and then ""Yes, but ask me at next session")
2) You have each time to refresh your mailbox manually...
So many clicks simply to get your e-mails..
Thanks for your help !
Smo
There isn't a Push Mail option for GMAIL (like whith exchange mail servers), also I'm not form France, but are you sure about neither POP3 nor IMAP protocolls available for you, only HTTP/HTTPS?
Gmail and Push
Hi,
I´ve been using Gmail push with seven (community.seven.com) and also with mobipush.com
Both work very well for me. And push is in real time.
I just thought it could be interesting to let you know.
I, for one, don't like to use a 3rd party for syncing my emails...
I use GMAILs IMAP whith SSL (can't even use it otherwise...), whith a 5 minut check interval... works like a dream....
How long does the battery last with a constant data connection?
1,2-1,5 days

allow sms using email client (WM 6.1)

Hello everyone,
i have a serious problem. Through my company exchange outlook account (OWA) i can send email that at the end will be delivered as sms. I have just to insert into "to" field the following "address": [sms:+44123456789]. Unfortunately i think there is a control on the email address format because it says it can not send sms through the email program (you can try from your diamond). How may I solve it? i found a possible solution, modify
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\Settings]
"AllowSMStoSMTPConcatenation"=dword:00000001
"AllowSMStoSMTPAddress"=dword:00000001
but i cound't find a registry editor that saves the settings! i tried phm registry editor, resco registry and other desktop one. I can change the keys but they are not mantain the setting after the reboot. With the desktop registry i received an access denied when i try to save... in which am i wrong?? thanks
Edit/Delete Message
same issue
i found ur post after searching for "AllowSMStoSMTPAddress" on the forums. i too have the same issue. i use the stock htc wm6.1 firmware that came with my tytn ii. i can set the correct values and get outlook to send sms to email via the rogers gateway. but after a soft-reboot the settings revert back to default. its annoying!
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bumping this again. anyone got any ideas for this?
i was thinking maybe to make a reg file that applies the settings during every soft-reset, since the settings take affect without needing to reboot or restart outlook. but not sure yet how to make wm6 run .reg file. will look into it now...

Why does Yahoo Imap work on wm6.1 but not on my desktop Outlook?

My Fuze auto configures for yahoo and goes to a imap.mail.yahoo.com server, it works like an IMAP champ.
I then configure my Outlook for the same settings and I keep getting the UserName/Password entry box. I know I have the settings the same as the phone and the correct username/password.
Any tips? Imap for my Yahoo would be awesome on Outlook.
I am kind of answering my own question here. Looks like Imap Yahoo has a way to verify an id of the device type before it allows connection. So apparently wm6.1 mail app sends what it needs to Yahoo Imap Mobile but Outlook does not.
Damn, I was looking at doing that as well. I hope they open it up!
Hi,
Surely there must be a way to fake this via Outlook, anyone?
Not that I have ever found. I made a full conversion over to Gmail as a result and low and behold it was a huge pain in the ass and I now have to monitor two email addresses.
Hey,
Thanks for the reply. From what I understand, Yahoo servers require a specific, but non-standard IMAP command to be sent before login is done. The command is: “ID ("GUID" "1")”. Rumor is that its easy to modify the client to send it. Mutt and Mozilla Thunderbird already have a modded version. Furthermore, YPOPSs! and FreePOPs also use this command.
Can anyone provide some insight as to how we would go about modifying the connection string Outlook uses?
I guess this would be similar to configuring your browser to present itself as a different client - something that is very easily done.
Thanks!
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
jean-luc said:
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
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Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks
jean-luc said:
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
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ok .
psolunke said:
Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks
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This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above.
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.
I agree with Jean Luc. When using a mobile device to access the Yahoo IMAP server, any and all options work as they should. However, when using Outlook via non-mobile computer, it doesn't work.
Clearly Yahoo has implemented a filter on the connection string Outlook is sending to prevent users from using IMAP. I believe the fix should be relatively easy. Can anyone provide some insight on this?
jean-luc said:
This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above.
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.
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bump from the ages for a damn solution!
MS Technical info found...need help applying
Just happened to be searching more generally for this myself today for my desktop Outlook having got used to IMAP on my WM6.5.3 Energy ROM and wanting better that 'leave mail for x days' POP3 options (Specifically I want my desktop sent items to sync up to Yahoo mail like then do when sending from my phone so in and out boxes are all in 1 place)
Found this MS Technical info page that seems to give all the info needed on how to get Outlook to send custom properties, it's just I don't have enough knowledge of RegEditing to get this right ;(
Changes to custom properties in Outlook - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907985
Scroll down to just over half way on the page and start reading from 'Not recommended: Use the AllowNamedProps registry key'
That suggests you can edit your CurrentUser registry values to permanently send pre values as part of each recieve something along:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\AllowedNamedProps\{00020329-0000-0000-C000-000000000046} "Kind"=dword:00000000 "ID"=dword:00000001
???
Although I presume that the {000...00046} GUID is Machine or User specific and that's the bit I'm not sure what to set for my install, think I worked out the other bits.
Anyone with better Windows Registry knowledge able to help out?
Found working Yahoo IMAP 'incoming' proxy
In my continued searches I came across the following IMAP proxy which acts between Outlook and Yahoo to insert the necessary GUID 1 string as part of it's call to Yahoo's server, and would do that same for any other IMAP capable client at http://www.ameir.net/blog/archives/43-Yahoo!-Mail-IMAP-Proxy.html
Using the Windows download of this tool on Windows 7 with Outlook 2003 (Odd combination I know!) I was able to get Yahoo IMAP email and all folders to appear within Outlook where I thought I was onto a real winner!
Unfortunately it looks like either the proxy or my setup didn't fully support 2 way IMAP as I wasn't able to drag any local email up into the IMAP account as I should have been able to do.
It did however allow me to pull down server copies of Sent items from both Yahoo Webmail 'Sent' and WM Device 'Sent Items' folders and just drag and drop them into my normal Outlook default Sent Items so those were all together again.
Setup was pretty simple for what I got working:
1) Download and unzip the file in the Windows archive from that page above
2) Run the .exe included with those extracted files to open a DOS window running the proxy
3) In Outlook configure a new IMAP email account but set incoming IMAP to 'localhost' then in advanced settings make sure incoming port is 3490. Setup all other fields as you'd normally expect and with Yahoo normal SMTP server address.
4) Outlook will add a new tree for that account in left hand 'Mail Folders' view, just click around and explore. If no sub folders appear right click on root and choose 'Update Folders'
Hope that helps someone, and as code for this proxy is open source maybe someone could work out how to embed this customisation direct within Outlook so IMAP should then work fully 2 way?
Will keep my fingers crossed someone with suitable skills sees this thread as would really like to move into an IMAP world now I know how much better than POP3 it is!!!
A special thanks to Howshall for the research!
I have tried adding those registry entries in an effort to get Outlook to send the custom command, but it doesn't seem to be sending it when looking at the outgoing packets. Can anyone offer some insight? Thanks.

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