Hello all, I'm new here and I'm also new to the xda world. I just had my Atom few days ago.
I used to use Symbian where I would only need to tap the screen to wake the device so, is it possible to make Xda Atom to wake from standby mode by tapping the screen, instead pressing the "power button"?
Pressing the "power button" few times a day to wake the device could and might wear the button and it won't take long to make it unusable.
I have done my home work as a noob by searching the forum. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307481
I do not really mind with the power drop. So, is there any solution to make this possible?
Thank you in advance and any help would be appreciated.
Go to Start>Settings>System>Power >Advanced and untick Turn of device if not used for X minutes.
Now your device will be always on, unless you use the power button, and the screen should just dim when you dont use it after a minute or 2, and come back on when you touch it.
Let us know how it works out.
Surur
Thank you for the hint, Surur. It works, however it's not exactly what I had in mind. By letting it to show the today view all the time, it would take too much.
I was thinking to let the screen to go completely off, but the screen is still active (touch only), or only part of the screen. So, when the device goes to blank or standby, it would wake when I tap on the screen... or some part of the screen if it could help to preserve some power.
In Symbian, I could set the time for the screen to go completely off. And when the screen is completely off, each time I tap on the screen, the screen would go on. And if no input from user, it would go off again, according to the time I set before.
Note: the device does automatic lock, so even if it gets tap by something, the display would show or awake but would not open an app or do something unwanted, until user unlocked it using combination. So, I never need to touch any button with Symbian, completely using screen only.
Is there an application that able to do something similar or better than what Symbian does? I'm even willing to pay for someone to make this kind of program.
I don't know if it's allowed to double posts or not, if not please let me know.
Here is a testimony to back up my point of view regarding the power button:
"Naturally I set it to the power button, but after a while, that button got worn down and stopped "working" so I naturally set it to recognize any other button.
This experience has taught me the hard way, that its a good choice to have (or maybe even a necessity in some cases) that other buttons to wake the unit up in case of situations like this."
Taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315329
So, please someone create an application to allow user to use screen to wake from standby.
Here is what I had in mind:
1. Lock the screen if standby
2. On standby mode. If I tap some part of the screen (some part of screen only to save some batt power), then it would show option to unlock.
3. If I tap but do nothing or do not unlock, it would goes to standby again.
Again, I would pay the good person who's willing to make this kind of application. Or maybe it's already available?
MDCT said:
Hello all, I'm new here and I'm also new to the xda world. I just had my Atom few days ago.
I used to use Symbian where I would only need to tap the screen to wake the device so, is it possible to make Xda Atom to wake from standby mode by tapping the screen, instead pressing the "power button"?
Pressing the "power button" few times a day to wake the device could and might wear the button and it won't take long to make it unusable.
I have done my home work as a noob by searching the forum. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307481
I do not really mind with the power drop. So, is there any solution to make this possible?
Thank you in advance and any help would be appreciated.
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You can try the keylock in the settings, that will not wake your device by tapping the screen, but it will wake up by pressing any key...
Thanks for trying to help, ai6908. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the keylock in the settings, and it still needs button to be pressed.
I do not feel comfortable pressing button. I used p800, using it, Symbian was able to be operated without the need of any button.
Depending on button, it could decrease the value of the mobile, I mean pressing button(s) few times a day would surely wear the button(s) over time. Movable parts are more easily to get broken or wear. And It would decrease the value if the mobile is going to be sold later on. With p800, I could keep the state like new for many years, thanks to the UI that allows us to fully control from the touchscreen alone.
It seems like a Microsoft and mobile manufactures scheme to make user to buy another device when the button goes wear from waking up from standby. I can't believe Windows Mobile depends on the need of button to be operated. I even have to use button to take picture with Atom.
I know many also like to use button, but I believe there are other who do not like or like me. I hope MS is flexible about this like Symbian. Someone could help me on this issue?
Keylock is under settings/system...you can try it, but it is not like the symbian one that you mentioned...
I couldn't find Keylock in the settings/system, maybe it's a separate application. Thanks ai6908 for trying to help me, unfortunately it's not like what I had in mind. If I couldn't find the solution that I want, I would surely use your advice.
Someone told me that the display panel is "connected" with the touch. So when the display is off, the touch capability will be off too.
Because of that, I was thinking maybe an application that would set the backlight to very minimal (so it would make the screen to go blank) after a defined period of time could do the job.
Has someone tried this before? Or is it also not possible?
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If any of you have ever owned a recent Sony Ericsson phone you'll know they have a handy digital clock screensaver which runs without the backlight, just using high contrast colours; black background with white text. I know you can do this with spb Time, but the slightly newer SE phones (eg. k700i) also show icons for missed calls and messages on this screen, which I think is very useful.
I often find myself staring at the LED waiting for it to flash orange or green so I know if I have a message or not, or having to turn it on and off quickly, which seems a bit pointless!
I've only ever coded in Pascal and VB myself, so I'm not that experienced. Would be grateful if someone could let me know how I can write this sort of thing easily (needs to run full screen and lock buttons, unlock buttons when receiving a call, etc), preferably without having to put the eVB runtime on everyone's PDA!
Let me know what you think of this idea. Obviously I'd have to test how much more battery power it uses than keeping it in standby, so that may be a problem.
Joe
This is not quite the answer to the problem, but I've knocked this together for my own use, but it might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27357&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
You use a hardware key (say record?) to switch on the PDA, show you your Today screen for as long as you hold down the button, and then switch off when you release - quickly check appointments, missed calls etc.
I'll be working on a screensaver, but for now, this suits my needs.
Vijay
MortSaver does it all. Clock (when you push a button) and missed calls/sms (when you push a button). In 5 secs the device is auto powered off. unless you unlock it with the unlock buttons you specified at installation. www.sto-helit.de, freeware.
even though screensaver is prob the wrong word imho
then one thing which would intrest me was how much shorter the
batt time would be using such a program compared to just turning it
of because when you turn it off you dont just turn off the screen you aslo
disable all programs and put the cpu in a sleeplike state
this would not happen when a "screen saver" were being used
Hi,
I'm considering buying a WM5 device but I heard it doesn't allow configuring the Standby screen which is always dead blank. What I need to be shown there is 1) Clock; 2) received texts and 3) missed calls. Like in Nokia/Sony Ericsson mobiles. Any ideas how it can be achieved? By a registry hack or a custom application?
Thanks
Well, in a way WM5 devices do have configurable stand-by screen.
Before I start, do you have experience with a Windows phone before? If not, you may not able to understand something I will be saying. Others members, please leave your comments.
Anyway, for WM5, you can configure your Todayscreen to display everything that you've mentioned below (or more, see some of the Today screen that other posted). Then, you can use this today screen as your 'stand-by screen', of which you need to (screen) lock your phone (using one of the Today's plugins). If you were to unlock your buttons, with screen lock, you can have your phone, press any button to wake the phone up to display the Today screen with all the infor you want. Feasible.
Easier, just wake it and sleep it using your power button. Just a button click away.
Thanks, Hanmin. Well, "Just a button click away" is exactly what I want to avoid. Standby for me means when it's not in use, some screensaver gets invoked. And in some phones, this can be configured to show the details I need (clock, texts and calls), in others it is just dead blank and requires this very "button click" to show the required info. Seems like WM5 devices fall into the second category which is not what I need. But as it has a highly configurable OS, I thought I could find a way to make it show it anyway. So my question is: I have a WM5 phone which I put on the desk and don't use it for, say, 5 or 10 minutes. It is in a silent mode so I don't hear a noise and I don't feel a vibe. But I look at it once in a while to see if there's any news or just to check the time. So how can I do this last thing without actually touching the phone?
p.s.I do have an Axim which isn't really a phone but based on WM5 anyway.
Well.. hmm.. come to think of it.. depends on if you are in ext power. Since you have a Dell PDA with you, you ought to try keeping the unit on while on external power (e.g. on your table), it should gives you the Today screen without the backlight. And you can have a big Today clock whihc you can see without backlight.
If you are on battery, you ought to able to get your notifications via the LEDs (depending on your phone, Charmer doesn't seem to be able to do that). So, you will know if anything happens by looking at the LEDs, but you won't be able to read the clock on it (wear a watch )
Thanks again, Hanmin. Yes, this is what I was originally told. I just thought you folks are experts in mobile Windows so you may know how to tweak it. Like in normal Windows you can do pretty much anything with the OS, I hoped the same is with its younger sibling. I am planning at some stage to get closer involved with this particular version but for now just needed an expert advice. Thanks!
I am either going nuts or this is a common isue:
Normally when you tap "lock" on home screen the brightness diminishes and the phone is locked. To unlock, you have to tap "unlock" on the lower left side of the screen, hen you get a message telling you to tap again unlock in the middle of the screen and its unlocked.
Well, my Polaris only does this sequence sometimes. Especially if I let it go in standby for a couple minutes, as soon as I press any key I get another story:
In lower left corner of screen I have the word" cancel". Tapping it doesn't give me another "unlock" button on screen and the phone remains locked. I have to put it in standby from the power button and then try again to get the normal unlock behaviour.
Anyone else experiences this?
Nobody? So everybody's unlock feature works like it should?
Then I think it's reset time for my Polaris....
I personally don't use, the device lock feature... Just the standby, whith the HW buttons off... and it works just fine for me
I have noticed that when you press the central button in the TC, what you describe is what exactly happens. But this happens to me only when I do that. If a tap the screen without touching the button, I have the normal behaviour.
Yes, exactly.
@gnick: if I use the standby with HW keys lock it works ok for me also.
The issue is only with the HTC Home lock feature and the central key
dtancu said:
I am either going nuts or this is a common isue:
Normally when you tap "lock" on home screen the brightness diminishes and the phone is locked. To unlock, you have to tap "unlock" on the lower left side of the screen, hen you get a message telling you to tap again unlock in the middle of the screen and its unlocked.
Well, my Polaris only does this sequence sometimes. Especially if I let it go in standby for a couple minutes, as soon as I press any key I get another story:
In lower left corner of screen I have the word" cancel". Tapping it doesn't give me another "unlock" button on screen and the phone remains locked. I have to put it in standby from the power button and then try again to get the normal unlock behaviour.
Anyone else experiences this?
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Yes, but very rarely and even then when I press Cancel the normal lock screen resumes and I unlock in the normal way. I have "Do not lock all buttons" selected in the Key Lock settings. Don’t know if this is significant.
2 stages for screen lock?
I use my TC while riding motorcycle, so I want several apps (TomTom, gps tracking [gps.run]), music [was WMP, but now Coreplayer] and TellmeText) running and the screen off so as to save battery power.
If you press the power button when key lock is on it will turn the display completely off, and *most* programs will keep running. TomTom is a notable exception- it stops working, presumably because it can no longer access the gps?. But better behaved/next generation GPS apps such as run.gps continue to run. WMP, bless its pathetic cotton socks, seems to work sometimes!
Are these inconsistecies uinique to my unit, or known quirks?
Anyone suggest a app that will turn the screen off and allow ALL open apps to run, including TomTom?
Thanks
I don't know how you're operating any of the buttons on the TC with riding gloves on!!
hambola said:
I don't know how you're operating any of the buttons on the TC with riding gloves on!!
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anyone got anything more useful to add to what was a serious comment/Q
Man, the battery life sucks on this device So my quest on how to turn the screen completely off and lock the keys properly while running all software (especially GPS based such as TomTom) continues....
Anyone know of a 3rd party app that will do this?
I have not read all 200 pages, but it seems there are mixed results for running S2U2 on the Touch Cruise (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353008) ? Anyone having success?
Thanks
I know its late but I just saw this and thought I would mention that I managed to over come using TomTom without the device being on. However it doesnt save much on power as the GPS device need power to work.
But I using a simple function I wrote in my application to lock the device using the standard device lock API calls and then rather than switchingthe device into sleep mode (off) I switched it into IDLE mode, which is basically just switching the screen off, the device lock prevents any unwanted button presses.
The power button would just return this back to normal.
I have not yet worked out how to stop the device brightness changing when the screen lock is enabled on the device... :/ Which is my next task.
Ramakin...
well that would be great because even saving having the screen dimmed during lock would help battery life. And, pressing the power button to resume would be MUCH easier than stabbing around at in the sun trying to unlock the screen. It would also make TomTom behave like all other 21C GPS applications, i.e. run on idle.
So, can you send details?
During a recent motorbike trip where I just used TomTom and tracking software (even turned the phone off) I was SHOCKED at how crap the battery life was
Hello everyone,
I have been searching for an app/widget by which I can turn off the screen but not lock it. This is because my device is under a corporate policy that requires a complex password if it is locked. (the lock is enabled after 20 mins of inactivity). The apps that I have tried have all turned off the screen and locked the phone.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Sayantan
PS: Needless to say that all this effort is to save the power button from wearing out!
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Hello everyone,
I have been searching for an app/widget by which I can turn off the screen but not lock it. This is because my device is under a corporate policy that requires a complex password if it is locked. (the lock is enabled after 20 mins of inactivity). The apps that I have tried have all turned off the screen and locked the phone.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Sayantan
PS: Needless to say that all this effort is to save the power button from wearing out!
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Sorry, but with a corporate policy, you will not be able to dis-able the lock, on screen turn off, and password on unlock. The only way is to see if your corporate admin is willing to change the policy for you, on your phone, but I would doubt that, considering this is a mobile device connected to a corporate network in some form or fashion.
It is not the apps that do this, but the underlying settings within android that the corporate policy alters.
Thanks Jim.
I actually hooked up to my corporate server only recently, but I've been searching for an app even before that. My screen off timeout is 2 mins and screen lock (pattern & now password) is 20 mins. What I was looking for was to turn off the screen. But every app I found also locked the device and I had to enter the pattern or password. This was even before the policy enforcement.
The app comes in handy when outdoors where you might need to turn screen off immediately after use before pocketing it but not turn on the password.
Thinking of writing one myself now as my power button might already be feeling its age!
Thanks,
Sayantan
Since you want to save your power button, why dont you activate ' volume button wake screen '?
If you're on JB leak the type *#*#6686#*#* in your dialer and it'll take you to a secret laboratory menu. select Volume Wake screen and then you have to press one of the volume buttons to do the same.
Not sure if this works on ICS but you can always try.
Sent from my ME865 using Tapatalk 2
Already have the volume rockr wake by editing the build.prop and key layout files. Was not aware of this menu. Thanks for sharing. But what I am really looking out for is an app/widget which just turns the screen off (similar to screen timeout) but not lock the screen (as in security timeout).
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Sayantan
Hi @SMONDAL84,
Have you managed to find/program smth that solved your problem? I'm looking for exactly the same thing for months. I've searched the whole Internet (you'll have to trust me on this one) but all apps and widgets always lock the screen while turning the screen off. I'm no programmer, but I'm suspecting Android does not allow this.
Well, if you ever try to program smth, here's a suggestion: configure your power button to don't lock the screen and make some kind of shortcut that simulates the power button press.
I know it's been years... But please someday come back to this thread and let me know if you ever found anything
Rubbs said:
Hi @SMONDAL84,
Have you managed to find/program smth that solved your problem? I'm looking for exactly the same thing for months. I've searched the whole Internet (you'll have to trust me on this one) but all apps and widgets always lock the screen while turning the screen off. I'm no programmer, but I'm suspecting Android does not allow this.
Well, if you ever try to program smth, here's a suggestion: configure your power button to don't lock the screen and make some kind of shortcut that simulates the power button press.
I know it's been years... But please someday come back to this thread and let me know if you ever found anything
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Here you go :thumbup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934495
Greetings,
I need the help of a developer. My grandfather has a Samsun s20 + and is 86 years old, and little by little he has been losing his vision, I have configured the phone for the visually impaired, and some apps are very good, even answering a call is very good, you don't need see the screen, and recently I wondered how to turn off the phone quickly, for that phone you have to press the shutdown button, then choose the red button and finally turn off, there are three steps that for a person with visual impairment are It makes it difficult, I was looking for an app that will facilitate the process but I did not get anything, well, I also tried hitting the off button and the volume down button at the same time for a few seconds, but what it does is restart the phone. Voice commands are not viable due to his age. I would like to know how I can help my grandfather, I have thought about developing an app that when opened just by clicking the screen once, turns off the phone, he has an app that gives him the time with that procedure, super easy, he just opens it , touch the screen anywhere and the phone tells you the time. Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
PD: I told him that I could program the phone to turn off at a certain time and turn on at a certain time, that could be done with a Bixby routine, but he wants to be in control of being able to turn it off.