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Hello, I really would like to know about this, I have a T-Mobile MDA (USA) running WM 5 version 2.26.10.2 WWE. I downloaded this from the T-Mobile website and updated my phone. I would like WM 6 on my MDA but i have no clue on how to do it. So if someone could please help me to do that i would really appreciate it. Also i would like to know some of the advantages and disadvantages (if any) of upgrading to WM 6. I'm a complete noob to any of this so any help is appreciated.
killerkhatiby009 said:
Hello, I really would like to know about this, I have a T-Mobile MDA (USA) running WM 5 version 2.26.10.2 WWE. I downloaded this from the T-Mobile website and updated my phone. I would like WM 6 on my MDA but i have no clue on how to do it. So if someone could please help me to do that i would really appreciate it. Also i would like to know some of the advantages and disadvantages (if any) of upgrading to WM 6. I'm a complete noob to any of this so any help is appreciated.
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Start reading the forums. Everything you need is found here. Best bet is to take time and read the stickies at the top of this forum and the Wizard Upgrading forum. Those will tell you the step by step instructions on doing all of this. But understand, this isn't just a simple application install, but an OS Install (and not one supported by your provider). So for most roms you will have to figure out how to setup GPRS and MMS to get them to work. So don't rush into this, but spend some time reading and learning (or you may wind up with a dead phone).
A really good post with tons of pointers to stuff is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206964&postcount=894
Hats off to Carlosdude1991 for putting that together.
Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
killerkhatiby009 said:
Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
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Ok, then start here and follow everything without skipping steps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
As for WM6, you'll have to decide what you really want. If you want a fully loaded rom, then try Faria's "the real thing". For a "clean" rom try NotTooSmart or Xplore 1.1. Also Zoki's NBD is getting good reviews (I haven't tried it).
The beta of Faria's Vanilla is going VERY well and will be a great rom when its released (watch for it soon).
Good luck and have fun.
I have another question though before i do that, after i get WM6 will everything work again like it used to, like phone, text and sms, camera, programs etc.?
yes they will, you will have to enter in the correct settings for T-mobile mms
I think this is my last question (actually last 2), On the guide it says to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM, what does it mean by that, does it mean that I should install buttons 1.05 ROM and do the whole process and then install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM which is the one I'm running right now? and wouldnt that re-lock my phone? and my second question is about how long would it take to go from an official T-mobile 2.26.10.2 ROM, Locked phone. to a WM6 unlocked everything working phone?
BTW thanks for all the quick responses and help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Go to that thread and follow those directions. You have to use the lokiwiz to cid unlock your rom before you can add custom roms. Cid unlocking voids your warranty btw. That form is straight forward and works like a charm just do exactly what it says word for word.
I read it through a couple of times now, but i just don't get the part at the end where it says install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM. I have that right now and wouldnt that just re-lock the phone? Also how do i Downgrade to the Button 1.05 ROM?
Alright, I understand where your coming from, I was in your shoes. lokiwiz will not work with 2.26. Therefore you have to downgrade your rom to 1.05( I used 1.8 because I couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked) Once you downgrade your rom then you can use lokiwiz to Cid unlock your phone. adding 2.26 after your cid unlock your phone will not lock it again given that you did everything correctly. 2.26 is a solid and steady base rom to use that doesnt have any bugs or anything. once this is all done you can put a wm6 rom on your wizard.
o ok i see, so i can download and install the 2.26 ROM from the T-Mobile USA website and it wont relock my phone, right? also "(i used 1.8 because i couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked)" you mean 1.05 right?
k2e15 said:
Alright, I understand where your coming from, I was in your shoes. lokiwiz will not work with 2.26. Therefore you have to downgrade your rom to 1.05( I used 1.8 because I couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked) Once you downgrade your rom then you can use lokiwiz to Cid unlock your phone. adding 2.26 after your cid unlock your phone will not lock it again given that you did everything correctly. 2.26 is a solid and steady base rom to use that doesnt have any bugs or anything. once this is all done you can put a wm6 rom on your wizard.
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All this is correct, but let me stress... You have to get both IPL and SPL down to 1.xx or when you go back to 2.xx you may find your device isn't really CID Unlocked... So follow that thread. It tells you to do the button downgrade, then do lokiwiz, then you have to downgrade again if your SPL still hasn't changed. Once you get both to 1.xx, THEN you can go back to an official 2.xx rom (TMo 2.26 is the suggested one). THen as long as you stay on 2.xx and above, you will not have to the the 1.xx downgrade ever again. You will remain CID Unlocked during all your flashing adventures.
Thx for covering that.. I forgot about that one.. .. as for using 1.05 when i tried to click the link, I had trouble and had to search for a different 1.rom. checked the link today and it works again.. Would have saved some time and stress. lol
I have a question, when i reach the part right after downgrading to 1.05 ROM and i click enablerapi do i install it to anywhere or just click it then run the lokiwiz.bat on the computer?
Install to the C Drive I believe
killerkhatiby009 said:
I have a question, when i reach the part right after downgrading to 1.05 ROM and i click enablerapi do i install it to anywhere or just click it then run the lokiwiz.bat on the computer?
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Are you following this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
It tells you there in the steps on where things go... Basically the enablerapi can be anyplace on your phone, just get it over there and run it. But Lokiwiz needs to be on the C:\ drive of your PC to work properly I believe
alright i have succesfully installed WM6 " the real thing" but now i cant make any SMS messages? how can i fix this, i know you have to change the address or something but i have no clue where to go so i can do that. Also is there a way to get free internet from T-Mobile USA? I also have another quesiton, how come sometimes in the little icon next to the signal icon, its G and other times its E? does it make a difference?
killerkhatiby009 said:
alright i have succesfully installed WM6 " the real thing" but now i cant make any SMS messages? how can i fix this, i know you have to change the address or something but i have no clue where to go so i can do that. Also is there a way to get free internet from T-Mobile USA? I also have another quesiton, how come sometimes in the little icon next to the signal icon, its G and other times its E? does it make a difference?
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You can't do SMS and MMS because you haven't set that stuff up yet apparently. EIther go to the T-Mo site and find the settings to plug into your phone, or search around here for the cabs for T-Mobile (I'm on Cingular so I don't have the T-Mo cabs to post)
G is straight GPRS. E is Edge (faster). I think the default TMo and Cingular stock roms turn this off from switching (so they always just show E). So now you are seeing when you are connected to the better net (but a lot of people don't care for that. again there is a cab around to turn that off)
Congrats on upgrading successfully.
ROM 1.05
Just in case this might help. Here is the link for the bottom 1.05 ROM. http://rapidshare.com/files/18212239/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.html
killerkhatiby009 said:
Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
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my advice is to download awizard thats the way i unlockt my mda vario
then flash it whith a black diamond 3.0 rom i think its the best and the fastes
sorry for my engilsh i am not that good
good luck
masters!!! hi!! i have an o2 exec here.
i've read some articles here and in wiki for upgrading my device. howver, i havent seen a thing about bootloader.
these are my device's info:
rom version: 1.30.107 wwe
radio version: 1.09.00
ext rom version: 1.30.162 wwe
bootloader: 1.00
my question is, do i need to upgrade my bootloader first to 1.01 before doing an upgrade to wm6?
in connection with this, i believe my device is g3 (please correct me if i'm wrong), will IVAN rom work on G3? how about Rom Update 2.07.04.BL, will it work on g3? there are no information on their threads if these are for g3 or g4...
thanks for those who can help me.. thanks again!
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
By Default all of the ROM's work on G3 devices unless stated. Even the ones that state that they work on G4, work on G3 as well. I have tried all of the mentioned (and more) on my G3 device and they all work.
Laubscherc said:
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
By Default all of the ROM's work on G3 devices unless stated. Even the ones that state that they work on G4, work on G3 as well. I have tried all of the mentioned (and more) on my G3 device and they all work.
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so, upgrading to BL 1.01 is necessary. (however, mmamaich stated that it is not necessary...)
thank you so much for the useful informations. i'll be reflashing to wm6 later. thanks again great master!
what will happen if i upgrade directly to wm6 without upgrading first to BL 1.01? will it kill my device? thanks again!
iamwin said:
masters!!! hi!! i have an o2 exec here.
i've read some articles here and in wiki for upgrading my device. howver, i havent seen a thing about bootloader.
these are my device's info:
rom version: 1.30.107 wwe
radio version: 1.09.00
ext rom version: 1.30.162 wwe
bootloader: 1.00
my question is, do i need to upgrade my bootloader first to 1.01 before doing an upgrade to wm6?
in connection with this, i believe my device is g3 (please correct me if i'm wrong), will IVAN rom work on G3? how about Rom Update 2.07.04.BL, will it work on g3? there are no information on their threads if these are for g3 or g4...
thanks for those who can help me.. thanks again!
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Hi Everyone
I too would like an answer to iamwin's question . . .
I still have Bootloader v1.00 on my Xda Exec and I've loaded "2.07.05.BL from Beasty & Laurentius" on my device - not even knowing that it may or may not be necessary to update the bootloader . . .
I am confused as to whether my device is G3 or G4 and which is a G3 Rom and which is a G4 Rom and what is the significance of updating the bootloader on the device, since I've already flashed a WM6 Rom on a Bootloader v1.00 device, would it have any repercussions
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I read that some forum member's device have bootloader 2.01 - is it better to upgrade to the newer bootloader version - but is it available for download?
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Cheers
SHK
Bootloader 2.01 is What Is Displayed On G4 Devices After Bootloader Update.
On G3 The Update Shows As 1.01.
I Believe Thats Correct Neways.
I was on BL 1.00 on my first try to upgrade to a WM6 ROM. All went well.
The SPL upgrade is meant to Super CID the device to make it compatible with the different modified ROM's available other than the shipped ones. Other than that, it was supposed to SIM unlock the Universal for subscribed users to telco's. I assume that you're on Globe or Smart and your SIM is already unlocked.
I see no other point other than the above that would make the Universal better or faster or more stable by applying the SPL upgrade, except maybe for troubleshooting purposes where a tool requires a modified BL.
Based on experience, I started not being able to flush ROM's with the SD Card inserted since I did the SPL upgrade.
My advice is to try the upgrade at it's current BL version and upgrade SPL or SIM unlock only if you are unable to proceed with the upgrade.
Cheers (Kabayan)!
P.S.
Btw, OS ROM selection is a matter of taste & usage. Determine the main use of your Uni & check for the ROM with no bugs exhibited for that main purpose. I hope video call is not among your main thing coz your going to be disappointed. Would be easier to go through the threads specifically the first page where bugs & fixes are mentioned. All of the new WM6 ROM's with OS CE core 5.2.1921& above are fast & stable except for some minor bugs here & there. All of the new releases runs on either G3 or G4.
@rhmartin
woW!! thanks kabayan!
i have already downloaded the patched ruu, which i believe is the right tool for upgrading. if i am correct, this patched ruu will bypass cid checking right?
so if im to upgrade, i'll just put the *.nbf file (rom) to the folder of the patched ruu (extracted). please correct me if im wrong,
salamat po!!!
Thank you!!!
Yup, the patched RUU is in the form of an exe file like this: *_noID.exe.
For starters just upgrade the OS ROM. The radio ROM (radio_.nbf - version 1.15 is preferred) can follow later, applying the same procedure upgrading the OS ROM.
Both ROMs can be updated exclusively (separately) from each other!
Good luck 'tol!
Laubscherc said:
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
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No, any bootloader starting from 0.53 would work with WM6. I personally don;t recommend to touch bootloader.
@mamaich
thanks for the clarification!!!
@rhmartin
thanks for the guide. it seems i have what i need to upgrade my device.
masters, i'll update you after i upgrade my device!
iamwin said:
what will happen if i upgrade directly to wm6 without upgrading first to BL 1.01? will it kill my device? thanks again!
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I have a Qtek 9000 with bootloader 1.00 and have flashed it numerous times. There may be other (brand name) factors which may lead some to conclude that it is necessary to upgrade. If you try to flash with the older bootloader, I beleive that the worst would be that the process would self-abort, leaving your existing ROM in tact. Safest to have the OEM ROM available and ready before you try, just in case you need it.
Please help me upgrading the Bootloader to anything over 0.6
I got an JasJar for ROM testing, - however, I cannot flash it using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Bootloader
nor does it work with _noID
there is no progress bar, but I get "success message" really short after. Cold reset does not help, bootloader is still v0.6
AlCapone said:
Please help me upgrading the Bootloader to anything over 0.6
I got an JasJar for ROM testing, - however, I cannot flash it using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Bootloader
nor does it work with _noID
there is no progress bar, but I get "success message" really short after. Cold reset does not help, bootloader is still v0.6
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..maybe somebody can provide an older bootloader ?
found the error - now upgrades work fine.
The error was caused by a massive overdose of bloatware and spyware, called Windows Vista, wich I recently got infected by, because my I got new PC at my workplace.
the simplest and best solution is to find and install a OS that's a OS, not a pile of junk.
Hey people.
I bought a TYTN2 off ebay and the previous owner already flashed Duttys rom 29th April onto it. he told me that he applied a HardSPL and flashed the rom.
My question is, I want to flash laurentius diamond V9 rom but I'm unsure if I need to start from the beginning, CID unlock and sim unlock and then apply HARDSPL again or can I just go straight to changing the SPL to version 3.56 and then install the new rom. Which path do you think I should take?
As i'm not entirely sure what the previous owner did to install the Dutt's Rom.
I have been reading the Wikis and FAQ's but i'm still unsure in my situation as i'm not sure what the phone has had done to it in the past.
Hold your camera button down and see if you even need to update to hardspl 3.56. If you do, then update your hardspl and then just flash whatever rom you need....note you may also need an updated radio. In any event, it will not hurt you by starting all the way over.
soupz said:
Hey people.
I bought a TYTN2 off ebay and the previous owner already flashed Duttys rom 29th April onto it. he told me that he applied a HardSPL and flashed the rom.
My question is, I want to flash laurentius diamond V9 rom but I'm unsure if I need to start from the beginning, CID unlock and sim unlock and then apply HARDSPL again or can I just go straight to changing the SPL to version 3.56 and then install the new rom. Which path do you think I should take?
As i'm not entirely sure what the previous owner did to install the Dutt's Rom.
I have been reading the Wikis and FAQ's but i'm still unsure in my situation as i'm not sure what the phone has had done to it in the past.
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soupz said:
Hey people.
I bought a TYTN2 off ebay and the previous owner already flashed Duttys rom 29th April onto it. he told me that he applied a HardSPL and flashed the rom.
My question is, I want to flash laurentius diamond V9 rom but I'm unsure if I need to start from the beginning, CID unlock and sim unlock and then apply HARDSPL again or can I just go straight to changing the SPL to version 3.56 and then install the new rom. Which path do you think I should take?
As i'm not entirely sure what the previous owner did to install the Dutt's Rom.
I have been reading the Wikis and FAQ's but i'm still unsure in my situation as i'm not sure what the phone has had done to it in the past.
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1. You should determine what SPL you have on your device FIRST
2. if you are doing a 6.1 ROM you will want a 3.xx HARDSPL installed -
3. the WIKI is your friend here - it will tell you how to determine what SPL you have and show you how to upgrade to what you need.
Once you have the CORRECT HARDSPL on your device and you understand the process you can continue - continuing before you understand and have the correct HRADSPL will guarantee that you need help for a bricked phone.
This is not hard - many have gone on before you ...
But you must read and understand.
Bill
Hey thanks for replying guys. Been reading through the SPL Wiki, but cant find how to determine your SPL.
ajmoncrief: Do I soft reset and hold down the camera button?
whk: Thanks for your advice. I have been reading the wikis for a while but I guess it will take a few more days of reading as I find it confusing with all the technical terms etc.
There is one bit which I would like clarification on if possible. in the thread 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396235' is states:
'The reasoning is that those HardSPLs are what allows you to flash a ROM not originally meant for your device (from your vendor/region).
Once you have flashed the HardSPL you can then flash your ROM.
Once your ROM is flashed, you can then flash the SPL which matches that ROM to ensure stability. However, if you want to flash a new ROM, you have to go back to the beginning and flash the HardSPL again to allow you to load another ROM!*
from what I read,
Im assuming that if the previous owner flashed HARDSPL ver 1.xx and then loaded duttys April 29th 6.1 rom. I would need to now reflash HardSPL ver 1.xx again and then jumpSPL to ver 3.56 and then flash the new rom?
soupz said:
Hey thanks for replying guys. Been reading through the SPL Wiki, but cant find how to determine your SPL. ..snip..
from what I read,
Im assuming that if the previous owner flashed HARDSPL ver 1.xx and then loaded duttys April 29th 6.1 rom. I would need to now reflash HardSPL ver 1.xx again and then jumpSPL to ver 3.56 and then flash the new rom?
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Read this -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
This will help you figure out what SPL you have installed -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1846653&postcount=800
and this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserIntroductionToROM_Flashing
I believe that once you have HARDSPL on your machine it is there permanently - until you flash another one over it - SO - You can go right from HARDSPL 1.0 to 3.xx and then flash your new ROM.
Bill
Thankyou very much for your advice.
I managed to update to HardSPL 3.56 and flash the new rom. All went smoothly (nerve racking) and everything booted up fine. Now i'm just exploring and tweaking the settings.
I couldn't have done it without your guidance and of course the help from wiki and FAQ's.
Cheers!
i installed the helmi wm 6.1 rom
i want to go back to the sprint stock room with old bootloader.
I have tried just running stock rom wont work says i have wrong version, even tried in bootloader mode
i cant find the hard spl for apache, Moguls wont work.
noone seems to know how to downgrade the apache. please help/
I have looked everywhere
What bootloader do you have now? What rom are you trying to flash? I'm doing exactly what you want to do as we speak. Ironic. I got my sprint rom from this link.
http://www4.sprint.com/pcsbusiness/downloads/APAC_SPCS_20600_300_11200_ship.exe
Just plugged it in and away we went.
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
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.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
If you have any of the HARD SPL installed(3.56 from your words).
You can flash any ROM you want.
No need to CID unlock separately.
With Hard SPL, your Device is CID unlocked already.
Your pda doesn't not have hard spl installed on it
Crogon said:
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry to tell you that this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
Is not hard spl and if you pda has hard spl installed is will say this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
I received my replacement Tilt 4 days ago from At&t and it came with WM6.1 and spl 3.56.0000 and you are right I cant find anything to change that spl. I have tried to CID UNlock and I get the white screen, so I tried jump spl 1.56 and 1.93 and neither one of them worked. So now I'm stuck with this 3.56.0000, I sent Jocky a PM and He told me that he was looking in to it and that he will get back to me. So I have to wait. Or maybe someone will read this that has a fix for this issue and help us.
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
BerettaFreak said:
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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Yes I did all that I'm very familar with the process this is my 5th tilt 2 of them the CID Unlock run just fine and the other 2 I that to run jump 1.56 to get pass the white screen. But for some reason I cant get anything to work on this tilt. I even try to install the OG WM6.0 to try to downgrade the spl but that did work either. Do you have any other suggestions?
IIRC for me to run the CID unlocker program I needed to flash the SPL first.
What is happening when you are trying to run the Jump SPL files? It's just not making sense.
You need to flash Hard SPL 3.29 BEFORE you try to run the unlocker, you can't do 3.56 then try to unlock it. Once its unlocked then flash it with hard 3.56 if you so desire.
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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No what I'm trying to do is CID Unlock my phone but is not working I get the white screen. I have tried everything I know to get pass it. I'm not trying to install hard spl 3.29 or 3.56. I have to CID Unlock my phone first right? That is what I've always done before. I'm out of ideas.
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
BerettaFreak said:
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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Thank you very much for all your help BerettaFreak you are the man!
Heeey! Did my thread get hijacked?
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
Crogon said:
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
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CID Unlocking is done by installing the Hard SPL, the Hard SPL's don't check the Carrier ID (CID) when flashing new ROM's.
Crogon said:
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
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SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
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Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
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Just follow all the steps in the Guide by mskip and post and problems you have there. Understanding is not a pre-requisite, with that guide, you can figure out what all the steps do later...
Simply put:
HardSPL / CID Unlock / Super CID - Allows ROM's and Radio's to be flashed.
SIM Unlock - Allows you to use a foriegn SIM card
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Dave
DaveShaw said:
SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
Crogon said:
Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
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To Security Unlock, just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Then upgrade to HardSPL 3.56 again.
Security Unlocking is done by setting a flag in the NAND. It's permanent (unless you re-lock) and there are no comptability problems once it is set (you need to use a special Hard SPL to set it first though).
EDIT:
There is no list of known bad radio's - only the "Radio from Hell" 1.65.17.10 - but another Radio from hell could appear any day
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Dave
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
I think I'm going to opt to ignore the security unlock, since it sounds like it's on an 'as needed' basis.
I have 'batter fish to fry' at the moment. I'm grinding gears trying to figure out HOW to figure out which ROMs I should be looking into, in my other thread.
By the by guys, I was joking about the 'hijacked thread' thing, I'm sure somebody will find the info useful.
Just when i though I had this all figured out and was about to Flash my first ROM.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
P.S. On another note, I am using AT&T Tilt with shipped ROM running WM6 pro. I have about 40-50 programs installed on it. When first setting up my phone I did the soft reset which supposedly gets rid of the bloatware. Anyways, with all my programs and it being the stock ROM I still have 62MB free PROGRAM RAM. I do however only have like 30MB Storage RAM. But 62MB of free PROGRAM RAM. I see people with naked ROMS that only get like 55MB of free PROGRAM RAM, is my phone like magic or something? Just curious as to how this may be possible.
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Just when i though I had this all figured out.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
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There is a Hard SPL 1 by pof. Flash that first then follow Jocky's instructions.
Also the OliPro Security unlock isn't permenant, next time you flash a Radio it's gone.
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Dave
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
asofiker said:
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Flashing a new SPL overrides the old one.
You said before you were happy with WM6.0, if so use either the pof Hard SPL v1 or the jockyw Hard SPL v1.1 (Part of the security unlock); if you are using WM6.1, use one of the jockyw or cmonex Hard SPL 3.**. Using the wrong version won't break your phone, but Windows will randomly freeze.
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Dave
Thanks again Dave for helpin me out and not tearing me a new one. But just one last question.
If I find a new ROM that I want to Flash and it uses WM6.1 then I have to make sure that I flash a HardSPL 3.xx before flashing that new ROM, is that what ur saying?