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wm6 standard questions

hey guys (and girls where aplicable),
i got a question (a sorta dumb one). If a smartphone lik the iPAQ 514 Voice Messenger or the HTC Vox have windows mobile 6 standard does that mean they run regular windows mobile programs or smartphone versions? See the Cheeta/treo 750 has windows mobile standard ed. and is called a smartphone but it uses regular PPC programs, the other two mentioned before have the same wm6 but no touch screen. so i was wondering if that made a diference in the phones capabilities to use PPC Progs? I appreciate any answers as i am greatly puzzled and intregued buy this.

With WM6 they dispensed with the term "smartphone" in favour of WM 6 Standard. Too many non Windows Mobile phones were being called "smart phones" as well as PPC phones.
WM Standard has no support for touch screens and many PPC apps will not run on it.
WM Pro has touchscreens.

understanding versions...
so lemmie go over this... a ppc with a touch screen is said to run WM6 pro, a ppc without a touch screen is said to run wm6 standard the "smartphone" version. so what of the vox? it has all the capabilities of a full sized PPC without the touch screen so where would it and the ipaq 514 fit in? Because correct me if i'm wrong but dont they offer features like MS Office editing and production verus the others whose ability is limited to viewing or is it the WM6 platform that actually enables this?

You're right, its just a functionality of WM6. Any smartphone (i.e. non-Touch screen device) running WM6 has those same office capabilities and will be running WM6 Standard, not Professional.

As far as I know the two WM6 are one same core of the same OS but..
In the PPC version there is more advanced setup in the menus wich setup is locked in the Srtandard by default.
For example in the Standard there is no way to change the IP of the wi-fi manually.
And in the pocket pc there is some dll's, responsible for touchscreen operation .

yes but....
i do believe you might be correct on everything but the I.P setup for standard. i have an sda running wm6 and i can manually setup my wifi and change certain settings in the network config. Also the HP ipaq 514 that i've been researching also has the same features. see my big thing is i love he compact size of the smart phone but need the capabilities of the PPC. It wold be great if i could get the best of both. i know the O2 XDA stealth has that exact combo but they are hard to find and kinda pricey for thier age.

There are separate SDKs for Standard and Pro, so I think the differences run a little deeper.

well what to do?
well i guess my final questions then wuld be what kind of phone are:-
1/ O2's xda stealth
2/ HP's Ipaq 514

Is it worth it to upgrade from WM5 to WM6.1 Standard? (for Tornado devices of course)

What are the pros and cons of upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard?
I already have the files from karhoe (http://karhoe.net/content/view/21/1/).
His guide it's great, but I don't wanna phone vodafone for warranties and stuff.
But I found that WM5 for smartphone does NOT include pocket Office.
Is it worth it to upgrade from WM6.1?

If you have a warranty on your phone, it'll void it. Also, if you don't follow the instructions to a T, you could brick your phone. Those are the only cons I can think of.
The pros are 6.1 doesn't seem to slow down a tornado.

i have problem with mobile samsung i600
the java program didn't work in my phone i tray to install MiDPv2 but didn't work too .what can i do....? if any body have slution of my broblem please send it to me [email protected] thank's ....

husmanafper3 said:
the java program didn't work in my phone i tray to install MiDPv2 but didn't work too .what can i do....? if any body have slution of my broblem please send it to me [email protected] thank's ....
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Please find 'Esmertec Jbed 20080222 3.1M.cab' in this forum it is really good.. if you installed it on storage card, you will always get retained all your java applis. even after rom flashes..
Only thing is you have to create a shortcut manually to '\windows\start menu\programs' (or copy the shortcut to there) after installation.

Benefits of upgrading

Hi
I have just received an xdaII mini and have been browsing these forums looking at the different roms available. I am just wondering, besides obviously being a newer release, what benefits the updated rom - say Cotulla's wwe03 - brings to the magician (in its default 2003se setup). Is it more stable, better features apps?
Cheers

2 words. Persistent Storage. This is the main reason (but not the only reason and there's a lot) why you should abandon WM2003SE and upgrade to Cotulla's ROM. This means that if ever you drain your battery, you would not lose all the data (e.g. contacts, appointments.. etc.) in your Magician.

make your xda mini beautiful
You can enjoy great applications and launchers when you upgraded your ROM. Many applications are running only if your ROM is wm5, wm6, wm6.1 or wm6.5.
Try to use spb mobile shell and see the difference in your xda mini.

Thanks for replies. What about memory issues. The XDAII mini only has 64 mb of ROM and 64 of RAM. Is this enough to run wm6? Do users get out of memory errors and is it stable...will I need to reset the phone regularly?

Well I held my breath and flashed wwe 3.03 to the o2 and it seems very quick and stable. As mentioned, my biggest concern was with memory management. Is anyone using external bluetooth gps devices with this?
Cheers

WM6.1 runs great even if the Magician has only 64MB memory. Basic rule is never to install too much applications in the internal memory which will slow down the unit. If possible try to install them in memory card. The good news is since you installed 3.03 then you now have SDHC capability.
As for your second question it would be better if you read the thread for the version you installed. If you can't find the answer then don't hesitate to ask you questions since there are a lot of members who will be happy to help you.
Have fun with your "new" magician!

plz help me i want to upgrade my imate ultimate 8150

Plz help i want to upgrade my i mate ultimate 8150
to 6.5 mobile windows
tell me about it how should i do it
regards

I think it isn't a magician
Hello there!
I think the 8150 isn't a HTC Magician, because:
-it has 520 Mhz CPU, not 416, as in the Magician
-it has VGA resolution (480*640), not QVGA (240*320) as in the Magician
-it has Built-in numeric phone keyboard, the magician doesn't have this good
-supports microSD, the magician only supports full sized sd cards
-it has TWO camera, not 1 as in the Magician
And last the most important:
it has WIFI. the magician doesn't have wifi. (i wish it have )
Hope it helps
Regards:
Reeedim
EDIT: If you would like Wm 6.5 on your phone, there's a WinMo 6.5 skin for SPB Mobile shell 3.5 somewhere out. Search it on XDA

os updrade
pls. help me updrade my ultimate 8150 os to wm6.5 if possible.

running out of internal memory

Can anyone help me with a storage problem?
I'm fairly new to this and I have a lot of things stored to my internal memory on my palm treo 750, (I thought this was where there were supposed to be installed).
Maybe I have some overlaps or unnecessary items, this is whats installed:
Microsoft .Net configuration
mskip MS301 Widgets Pro Plus Ultimate
volDeus MS3 Config
Spb Mobile Shell
Mskip ProPlus WP7 V3.1 WQVGA
Resco Explorer
A C A2U2
Please help with a solution or advice, thanks ahead of time.

tkjeeper said:
Can anyone help me with a storage problem?
I'm fairly new to this and I have a lot of things stored to my internal memory on my palm treo 750, (I thought this was where there were supposed to be installed).
Maybe I have some overlaps or unnecessary items, this is whats installed:
Microsoft .Net configuration
mskip MS301 Widgets Pro Plus Ultimate
volDeus MS3 Config
Spb Mobile Shell
Mskip ProPlus WP7 V3.1 WQVGA
Resco Explorer
A C A2U2
Please help with a solution or advice, thanks ahead of time.
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What OS version are you running (WM6, WM6.1, WM6.5)? That can be checked in the Settings->System->About.
Seems like you do the same things I do, I install to internal memory for necessary stuff, that needs to be in the internal storage, and I don't like installing to external cards.
In a few days I will be releasing a WM6.5 version that will grant more memory, and if there is much demand, I can do the same for WM6, for those that prefer WM6 (and maybe 6.1)

Hi Mangatron, I have your wm 6.5 rom that I love and has worked flawlessly! Can you tell me if I have any overlap? Like, do I need the 2 config programs? Thanks for the reply, I plan on donating for that awesome rom you worked so hard on. Thanks again.