Kaiser vs. Wizard - General Topics

I'm weighing value of signing up for another 2 yr. contract w/ATT for the Kaiser ( ATT 8925) to replace my 8125 wizard. I'm reading and hearing two 'issues' with the Kaiser.
First is that the speed of the 3G network does NOT amount to that much improvement in web page display compared to the wizards. This is reputedly due to the latency of the network/device combo. A friend who has the Kaiser says that he doesn't see that much improvement in the display rate compared to Wizard.
Second, issue is battery life. My Wizard can typically go three days between charges...depending on usage. I am hearing that the "user experience" for the Kaiser is more like ONE day between recharges.
I would be interested in anyone's experiences with the Kaiser and especially anyone who has upgraded from the Wizard.
BTW, I'm pretty pleased with Wizard and am not all that anxious to upgrade. I've taken full advantage of this great XDA site to upgrade my Wizard to WM6 and add LOTS of applications.
Appreciate your comments.
Jim
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Wizard (Cingular 8125)
Diamond 3.0 ROM
Radio 2.69

I've had my Tytn II for about 6 weeks now, having upgraded from a Qtek 9100. I can't address the 3G issues, as I don't have a data plan -- I use WiFi for net access. Having said that, I don't see a major speed difference when in IE.
Battery life is a bit shorter, especially if you use GPS or 3G -- those use lots of power. Since I don't use 3G, I'm finding that I can go 3-4 days without a charge, roughly the same interval as with my old Wizard.

I've had my Kaiser for a couple of weeks now, and upgraded from a Wizard (which I'd updated using this site to include WM6 etc.) and so far I'm fairly pleased.
The web pages don't seem to be much of an improvement in speed, but I think that's more down to PIE than the device. Try downloading a file over 3G and compare it to GPRS and you can really tell the difference. Opera Mini (beta 2 I'm using) is quicker on the Kaiser than the Wizard, and exits properly (which it didn't on my Wizard) and is a lot better for performance than PIE.
The battery life I still haven't figured out. The first charge lasted from 8pm Tuesday to about 11am Friday, the next one til 2pm Monday, and then I can't remember whether I charged it between then and Sunday (but I'm guessing I probably did). So it seems to be lasting about 2-3 days at the moment, but it all depends on usage. My Wizard lasts about 4 days on average, so it's a little bit less, but I'm still only just getting to grips with the Kaiser and haven't really touched any of the backlight settings or anything like that, so I'm sure I could eke it out a bit longer if necessary. Overall though, I would say the upgrade from the Wizard (features, esp. built-in GPS) outweighs the uncertainty with regards to the battery life.
If you're used to charging every few days, or you're not really too bothered about being "green" and just charge your phone whenever it needs it, I think the Kaiser is a worthy upgrade from the Wizard. Unless you want to wait to see what other devices come out next year, or at least are rumoured early next year, before signing up to a 2 year contract.

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WM6 - WMO - Battery Life

Anyone else notice that the battery life on the Treo is a whole lot worse when using WM6?
I am getting about 2 hours less after upgrading
Just wanted to see if I was the only one.
Thanks
I had the leaked att rom on my phone....and my battery life was the worst...lasted maybe 2 hours or so...
I just downloaded the generic rom to see if i would have a change....
so far i have had it for a full day of moderate use and my battery is still going strong....im left to assume that the rom change made the difference....
Can anyone else confirm that WM6 battery life is improved with the ROW ROM?
I can't say I "confirm", because I have not tried the generic ROM yet, but since installing the AT&T ROM, I have noticed a signifigant decrease in my battery life. I thought it might be chocked up to my heavy use of BT and the fact that I am running XCPUScaler to clock it in at 500MHz, but even with no BT use and disabling XCPU, I still see a 2 to 3 hour difference.
If you live in a 3g area and you are set to "auto" then yes your battery life will be shorter since those 3g bands require more "energy". I have learned to disable 3g for most internet use and only use 3g when I need it. Is this favorable; no, I'd rather not have to think about it. But until the battery technology and the processor/os interaction improve to be more energy efficient as is being seen with full-scale PCs, then we must find compromise. You can always buy a larger battery or carry more than one, but I'm happy with the software fix for now.
I created a shortcut to the band settings and assigned it to the PPT button for quick access to this setting to minimize the number of clicks.
Code:
how to:
1. Create a text file and input:
[INDENT]22#ctlpnl PLMOCPL.cpl,0,1?\Windows\cplmain.cpl,-7140[/INDENT]
2. Save the file as "[whatever name].lnk" and place it somewhere convenient on the device.
Hope this helps
Cheers
tmknight said:
If you live in a 3g area and you are set to "auto" then yes your battery life will be shorter since those 3g bands require more "energy".
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I agree with this, but there should not have been a noticable difference between 3G on WM5 versus 3G on WM6 - but several people have seen a significant (>20%) loss in battery life just from upgrading the OS using the leaked ROM (same hardware, same HSDPA support). I am one of those people.
Well, I tried the 'unofficial AT&T Rom' same thing. Battery life about 20% less.
But I can't even get through a day without having to charge up my phone. Pretty annoying
Mine's actually better since upgrading to the AT&T rom.
I live in an area where I am on the fringe of 3G availability, so my phone on WM5 was always eating up battery searching between GSM and 3G networks. I actually had to hard set the phone to GSM like tmknight to get through the day.
Since the update, I seem to be staying locked on 3G now, and battery life is a little better than where it was when on GSM with WM5. Would still like a standard size battery with longer life though ...
well i finally got the generic rom to work, after realizing that i had to keep the data cable plugged in...BONK...in any case i would have to concurr with the last post, my 3g is locked in and battery life is a tad bit better, not much to do a cart-wheel over, but...noticeable...
gwoo_ca said:
Anyone else notice that the battery life on the Treo is a whole lot worse when using WM6?
I am getting about 2 hours less after upgrading
Just wanted to see if I was the only one.
Thanks
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Ur right, I have an atom exec and the Wm6 made it to run for 5-6 hours only, that too without any phone calls and only GPRS usage. When I reflashed the WM5 back it is running normally. Something is WRONG with this new WM6

Battery life?

Hi there,
I notice now for a while that the TyTN II has incredibly short battery life.
I've got a few questions about that. Are there ROMS out here, with which the battery life is longer?
And are there batteries out there with a higher capacity than 1350mah, but who still fit in the TyTN II without the need of a new back cover?
Thanks for your time
Regards,
Dennis
Although I don't have any answers, you are reading my mind. Hopefully one of the 'gurus' here have some answers!
dmxl said:
Hi there,
I notice now for a while that the TyTN II has incredibly short battery life.
I've got a few questions about that. Are there ROMS out here, with which the battery life is longer?
And are there batteries out there with a higher capacity than 1350mah, but who still fit in the TyTN II without the need of a new back cover?
Thanks for your time
Regards,
Dennis
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SVIK73 said:
Although I don't have any answers, you are reading my mind. Hopefully one of the 'gurus' here have some answers!
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You can read the posts under Kaiser accessories, this will help you find extended life batteries. I know there are a few posts there. As far as the Roms go, the fewer programs you have running the better off you are. I know active sync is a huge memory hog. I am using XDA live 1.3 and is great but it is for AT&T. I wish I could help YOU out more- trust me.
I switch from 3G to Edge when I am not browsing. My battery life greatly increased and I do use direct push.
-McMex
So the XDA Live 1.3 is only for the AT&T Tilt? Not the TyTN II?
Anyway, besides this, I don't use 3G. Even without using the internet on my PDA, the batterylife is soooo darn short!
I have WM6 version 5.2.1921 (Build 18521.0.7.0), with latest Radio.
All the battery options I see here above 1600mAh, make the TyTN II bigger as far as I know...
regards,
DM
You don't use 3G did you shut it off? Can you elaborate a little on short what is short to you one full day?
-McMex
Does edge use more power than normal GPRS?
Thanks!
Hi Martin!
Thanks for the tips. I will check out the area you suggested. I think I need to stop watching my slingbox on my Tytyn II ... I'm sure that would save me a lot of juice . I just can't seem to live without my American TV!
I think I will just buy a spare battery to swap with. I don't want to increase the size (or weight) of this thing any further!
Muah ... Scarlet
Martinjv71 said:
You can read the posts under Kaiser accessories, this will help you find extended life batteries. I know there are a few posts there. As far as the Roms go, the fewer programs you have running the better off you are. I know active sync is a huge memory hog. I am using XDA live 1.3 and is great but it is for AT&T. I wish I could help YOU out more- trust me.
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mcmexican said:
You don't use 3G did you shut it off? Can you elaborate a little on short what is short to you one full day?
-McMex
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As far as I know I shut it off. Under phone settings, I switched to GSM.
On a full day, hard to say. When I use the device "now and then" to lookup appointments and make a few calls, there's a quarter left at the end of the day.
Whatever I do, I need to recharge it every end of the day. It's a huge difference compared to an older Hermes device I owned.
Regards,
Dennis
Yeah, same experience here as well. Very very disappointing indeed from an otherwise great PPC!
I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
jeffreycentex said:
I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
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Interesting... I'll try setting my phone's "Network type and GSM/UMTS band" both to "Auto". I switched to GSM, because the signal strength seems rather low with 3G for some reason... Besides this, I've been told that 3G consumes more power?
Cheers.
my battery on my tilt goest down to about 88% by the end of a day with me using it marginally...(checking time, text messaging, not too much talking on it though)
jeffreycentex said:
I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
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WOW!!!.... That is hard to believe. Not that I doubt you, just that don't I'm down to 10% by the end of my day with just light use. You wouldn't consider trading phones would you? LOL!!!...
sixblade said:
my battery on my tilt goest down to about 88% by the end of a day with me using it marginally...(checking time, text messaging, not too much talking on it though)
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So it the end of the day you battery is at 88%? Or are you saying it losses 88% by days end? If the former, WOW... at that rate it would last you about 8 days!
Do either of you sync you phone to a PC during the day?
I get about 2 full work days as well with normal usage & about the same number of emails. I also keep bluetooth on. All in all I'd say that Kaiser battery life is better than Hermes.
I can get about a day and some change on one charge. But I don't think it was better than my Hermes. I usually charge my phone before I sleep< but even at 100% my tilt is around 89% when I get up after about 7 hours sleep. My Hermes would still read 100% and yes i do understand Hermes operates in increments of 10. Do you think the poor batter life can be attributed to the lack of ATI Imageon drivers. Since now even the simplest of rendering has to take up valuable cpu cycles, which could have been handled by the dedicated video hardware.
by the end of the day its at 88% sorry for not being clear, I dont sych it very often...just to add music or to toss a new rom on there.
Same for me. I had some issues with cooked ROMs with older radio...used to last about a day max. Now, I'm on CUSTEL's latest ROM with the latest radio. Not sure if it's the ROM or the radio software, but I'm on pretty much 2 full days. I'm right on 3G/Edge margin area...gets about 3-4 bars with EDGE, about 1-2 bars with 3G / H. Goes back and forth. I get about 100+ emails a day via continuously connected Direct Push on top of normal phone call usage.
So far, I'm pretty happy with the battery life. Definitely better than my 8525.
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I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
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jellycow said:
Same for me. I had some issues with cooked ROMs with older radio...used to last about a day max. Now, I'm on CUSTEL's latest ROM with the latest radio. Not sure if it's the ROM or the radio software, but I'm on pretty much 2 full days. I'm right on 3G/Edge margin area...gets about 3-4 bars with EDGE, about 1-2 bars with 3G / H. Goes back and forth. I get about 100+ emails a day via continuously connected Direct Push on top of normal phone call usage.
So far, I'm pretty happy with the battery life. Definitely better than my 8525.
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What the hell am I doing wrong?? I barely get though a whole day without charging. I only use my slingbox a bit and am on Wifi most times. I have my settings to automatic but think I usually connect via GPRS vs 3G when I'm not on wifi. I don't even have my bluetooth on
I am using the standard HTC ROM on my HTC Tytyn II that I downloaded from here and flashed (all by myself thank you). I needed WWE but my phone came with Swedish.
Sorry to hijack your thread, but I need answers!

Raphael Battary life

Hey, I have great problem with diamond battery ( Getting hot and drains fast). Others also have to same problem! Thinking of changing to Rapael.. Do you guys also have trouble as diamond and raphael look the same except the keyboard?
As the Raphael is not yet released, there will be no representative answer to your question for the moment.
You have to wait until it gets released and more and more people will report their experiences.
But one thing in advance: The Raphael battery is more powerful then the Diamond one.
Raphael (MDA Vario IV) shows me between 1 and 4 mW in standby which is very acceptable. Once i recognized (AFTER playing with GPS navigation hours before) that the device is pretty hot and when turning on it showed around 240mW (no applications running in background, all measures with batterystatus). A soft-reset solved this issue - so it MAY be the same OS-dependend "bug" which we had with our kaisers too... (Note: this is just my estimation, i cannot proof anything!)
I agree, the extra battery life of the 1340mAh battery certainly seems to be lasting much longer for me.
I have been using it pretty heavily while i have had it, even to the point of browsing the internet for about 3 hours yesterday over wifi and HSDPA. With arounf 40 minutes of calls, 20 text messages and an hour or so of Sudoku, Linerider, Pocket sand and teeter The battery still had 40% left at the end of the evening (11pm) from a full charge overnight to 100% at around 8:30am.
The Diamond would be down to it's last legs after that lot, if I was very lucky!
but in general, for a moderate user like myself, i can see this battery lasting 2 days every time, 3 days easily and on occasion 4 whole days.
Battery
I have found the battery gets just as hot as it did on the dimond and my battery life does not seem to be brilliant is there any fix for this or a setting that can be adjusted other than the normal ones

Come in and share your experience (Raphael is the worst )

Hello everybody
i have bought htc touch pro like a month ago and i am very unsatisfied with its performance i used to have an iphone and then iphone 3g....and also i used to hate the iphone but now i am convinced the iphone is the best (i know it is missing some stuff but at least i was satisfied with the performance)
htc touch pro almost has the worst battery life if you use wifi or talk and text alot it is dead in the matter of 2 to 3 hours....also the worst touch screen compared to the iphone this is a primative touch screen.....if you didnot reboot the device in 24 hours you will find the most slow performance and you will see the battery dies so quickly that will make you ask why is it dying and i am not even using the phone.
btw it takes like 3 to 4 hours to charge this phone and it dies in the matter of 15 hours so technically u cant even use the phone a complete day.
this phone freezes on a daily basis if u r using it like a normal pda to check ur mail and go over stuff on wifi ...it come to a point and decides to stop working and just freezes like this.
the buttons below the screen are so bad, it is not easygoing as it should be and this circle with the cursor keys has a very limited applications where it should be of great use (can u imagine what it would be like to have this circle with the application of an ipod classic one)
basically this not a cheap phone and compared to its price this phone is the worst among all the other pdas and i have only mentioned like 25% of its flaws so i wouldnt recommend that anyone buy it......i cant even sell this thing again since i have bought it.
In my opinion this phone needs a good software to handle it cababilites and to work on this problems.....windows is a big dissapointment every where.
this phone is like a car with a very good engine but with a very bad driver ....where the software is the driver
please if some managed to solve any of these problems i would really appreciate an advice
i have none of those problems...
Do you have any software in there to help you clear memory and close out programs? Do you utilize Task Manager to close and empty memory? If the program does not have a close feature you are leaving it open and running it in the memory most likely causing most of your bog down issues.
This will also eat up some battery life as the phone is trying to keep track of XX number of applications running in the background. It could also be causing some of your freeze up issues.
On the other hand, WinMo phones are not for everyone as it handles a bit different than your average Sony Ericsson or LG phone.
I dont really experience any of the problems you mention above. Battery life is quite impressive for a phone of this kind, and its performance is really good! Just make sure you check your running tasks once in a while and close the ones draining the most memory (you can sort the list after memory usage). This clears up memory and reduces battery usage.
Good luck!
yes, i have spb pocket plus with its close menu thing. i close my apps every now and then, but havent seen any (very little) change in battery with all apps closed/menu disabled
Sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience with your TPro.
I on the other hand have been using WM PDAs for about 10 years and think the TPro is the best yet. (I've also used SE, nokia and even apple!)
The performance isn't blistering (Yet but it almost as fast as the HTC universal I had (With the 128MB RAM and over clocked to 625Mhz) There have been some good improvements with the cooked ROMs and this thing has only been out for 6 weeks.
The range of features are pretty much second to none. Ok multitouch is missing, but at least I can use a stylus! I believe there will be a multitouch interface on the TPro using the buttons pad pretty soon
Battery life is not as good as my SE that used to last 10 days. But then again it didn't do 1/10 of what this baby can. I'm currently getting about 2days of moderate usage from the phone. If I use wifi continuously to surf at the airport I get about 5hrs. Thats almost as much as my dell D630 with an extended battery and most of the power saving features turned on. Compared to my Universal it lasts for ever!
To be honest your view of this phone depends pretty much on how you use it. If you want something that looks pretty and you just want a phone with an MP3 player that occasionally allows you to use the web: get an iphone!
If you want something that can do pretty much anything you want it to and your happy to do some fine tuning get a WMobile device.
WizP said:
Sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience with your TPro.
I on the other hand have been using WM PDAs for about 10 years and think the TPro is the best yet. (I've also used SE, nokia and even apple!)
The performance isn't blistering (Yet but it almost as fast as the HTC universal I had (With the 128MB RAM and over clocked to 625Mhz) There have been some good improvements with the cooked ROMs and this thing has only been out for 6 weeks.
The range of features are pretty much second to none. Ok multitouch is missing, but at least I can use a stylus! I believe there will be a multitouch interface on the TPro using the buttons pad pretty soon
Battery life is not as good as my SE that used to last 10 days. But then again it didn't do 1/10 of what this baby can. I'm currently getting about 2days of moderate usage from the phone. If I use wifi continuously to surf at the airport I get about 5hrs. Thats almost as much as my dell D630 with an extended battery and most of the power saving features turned on. Compared to my Universal it lasts for ever!
To be honest your view of this phone depends pretty much on how you use it. If you want something that looks pretty and you just want a phone with an MP3 player that occasionally allows you to use the web: get an iphone!
If you want something that can do pretty much anything you want it to and your happy to do some fine tuning get a WMobile device.
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Well spoken. I totally agree with you.
Sounds like you haven't even applied the tweaks here to increase performance (very easily done). Mine has been fine.
no problems with my TP, battery lasts 3 to 4 days.
had it 3 weeks now not had to reboot it yet because of failure.
Hands down best phone i've ever had. Very powerfull and fast. Stock ROM sucked though, flashing it with one of the cooked ROMs gives you a completely different device.
I disconnected it from the charger this morning at 6.30 AM, it's now 12.30 am and i'm at 82% of my battery. 31 phonecalls, 19 emails, 3 sms, push email on, bleutooth on. So i cannot possibly complain about the batterylife. In the evening when i go to sleep at midnight i'm often at 30-40% wich is very good considering the heavy use.
I want a phone with this properties otherwise why would i have bought it .....other than that i always check my task manager and close the open applications every 2 to 3 hours .....the phone as i said has a very good hardware but the thing that bothers me the most is the battery life (i use my phone to check my mail alot and i receive alot of phone calls daily due to my work but i cant make it through the day if i dont charge it in the middle.
and something else i didnt try the tweaks because i beleive that the phone should work fine without them and better with them but i cant see that my phone works fine.
also fyi since i got the phone i added some applications to it as i was happy it was a windows mobile so i can add as much as i want but after i saw the battery life i now have no applications installed except the one i have seen here with the battery life tweak.
guys i see that you are happy with your phone and i am ok with that but i have had some bad experiences with it that i am not happy about
easily the best and by far the most stable wm device ever (at launch). battery life could be better, but you should be used to that with wm device i think. it always lasts a day for me.
it has 9 functions I use on a daily basis that other phones do not have, if you dont need these functions then an iphone is probably your best bet.
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no problems with my TP, battery lasts 3 to 4 days.
had it 3 weeks now not had to reboot it yet because of failure.
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From what cisc0 and WDawn say, I'm almost convinced there is something wrong with my battery.
I leave the phone on charge durring the day on my desk, it takes a rediculous 6+ hours to charge from just under 10% to 100%. From 5:30pm to the next morning at 8am it will be back down to under 10% and it doesn't seem to matter if I use it a lot or not at all.
My TYTN II Kaiser charges in about 1 hour and lasts nearly 3 days, used exactly the same way with phone & WiFi on on permanently (no data or bluetooth or anything else).
The TYTN II and Kaiser are almost exactly the same +50mah on The Touch Pro battery and a slightly faster ARM processor. Assume the WiFi, Radio chipsets and charging circuits are similar too - but might not be.
I've put all the tweaks on but havent really noticed any difference.
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From what cisc0 and WDawn say, I'm almost convinced there is something wrong with my battery.
I leave the phone on charge durring the day on my desk, it takes a rediculous 6+ hours to charge from just under 10% to 100%. From 5:30pm to the next morning at 8am it will be back down to under 10% and it doesn't seem to matter if I use it a lot or not at all.
My TYTN II Kaiser charges in about 1 hour and lasts nearly 3 days, used exactly the same way with phone & WiFi on on permanently (no data or bluetooth or anything else).
The TYTN II and Kaiser are almost exactly the same +50mah on The Touch Pro battery and a slightly faster ARM processor. Assume the WiFi, Radio chipsets and charging circuits are similar too - but might not be.
I've put all the tweaks on but havent really noticed any difference.
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Are you guys using the a/c adapter to charge or mini-usb cable? Because using the usb takes longer to charge and also doesn't charge nearly as well than if you use the a/c adapter.
Also, out of curiosity, did you charge the battery completely before first using the device out of the package? It's always good to fully charge and fully drain a cell phone on first use, otherwise some people report battery life issues.
applied all the tweaks...
and seriously... this is the best phone I owned.. most of the problems people complained about, I don't face...
either I am very lucky or blessed...
WizP said:
Sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience with your TPro.
I on the other hand have been using WM PDAs for about 10 years and think the TPro is the best yet. (I've also used SE, nokia and even apple!)
The performance isn't blistering (Yet but it almost as fast as the HTC universal I had (With the 128MB RAM and over clocked to 625Mhz) There have been some good improvements with the cooked ROMs and this thing has only been out for 6 weeks.
The range of features are pretty much second to none. Ok multitouch is missing, but at least I can use a stylus! I believe there will be a multitouch interface on the TPro using the buttons pad pretty soon
Battery life is not as good as my SE that used to last 10 days. But then again it didn't do 1/10 of what this baby can. I'm currently getting about 2days of moderate usage from the phone. If I use wifi continuously to surf at the airport I get about 5hrs. Thats almost as much as my dell D630 with an extended battery and most of the power saving features turned on. Compared to my Universal it lasts for ever!
To be honest your view of this phone depends pretty much on how you use it. If you want something that looks pretty and you just want a phone with an MP3 player that occasionally allows you to use the web: get an iphone!
If you want something that can do pretty much anything you want it to and your happy to do some fine tuning get a WMobile device.
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Well said man. I totally agree. Very satisfied with my TP and I 'm pretty sure that many of Windows Mobile limitations will be fixed by xda experts.
One of the (basic) reasons to choose my TP was XDA forum.
By the way, Thank you guys.
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Are you guys using the a/c adapter to charge or mini-usb cable? Because using the usb takes longer to charge and also doesn't charge nearly as well than if you use the a/c adapter.
Also, out of curiosity, did you charge the battery completely before first using the device out of the package? It's always good to fully charge and fully drain a cell phone on first use, otherwise some people report battery life issues.
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I'm using the AC Adaptor.
One thing though, if the phone is switched off (fully off) it charges within 2 hours. But when on (even with the screen off) it takes 6+ hours.
The first time I charged it was with the AC adaptor, fully charged, but the phone was switched on. Would be worth trying to reset the memory in the battery and re-chargin with the phone off - but no idea how to reset the battery or if it is possible.
Other than this and thanks to fixing all other problems with tweaks from here, great phone. I'm sure a fix for this will be found.
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I'm using the AC Adaptor.
One thing though, if the phone is switched off (fully off) it charges within 2 hours. But when on (even with the screen off) it takes 6+ hours.
The first time I charged it was with the AC adaptor, fully charged, but the phone was switched on. Would be worth trying to reset the memory in the battery and re-chargin with the phone off - but no idea how to reset the battery or if it is possible.
Other than this and thanks to fixing all other problems with tweaks from here, great phone. I'm sure a fix for this will be found.
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well i hope the sprint version is improved somewhat.. they went out of their way to add a better battery to the diamond, so maybe they tweaked the TP's as well.
Ill give you my mogul for your touch pro ALL DAY LONG.
I am going to get a new mogul on the insurance replacement, it will be bran spankin new for you. I will even throw in an extra (old and looks like it) for parts
The TP is hands down the best device ever...and compared to the WM devices available on the American market...there is nothing that comes close. Fastest, prettiest, most useful device ever. All phones that are used for more than just dialing numbers have their share of issues (that's what happens when you multitask...even humans gets sloppy when they do it). I am so happy HTC created something to keep me from the iPhone and Blackberry. I have never been this happy before.
I am in so much love, think I'm getting an HD when it comes out. I will alternate between the two depending on my mood. But the great news, I'm not like the 80% of my friends that have an iPhone and can't Copy/Paste!

What happened to my battery life?

This week I upgraded my S710 to WM6.1 (the current Gonzo ROM) and overall am happy but today I have noticed something very odd.
I normally charge my phone on the dresser overnight and then take it off charge around 8am at the start of my working day. I run push email from my corporate exchange server between 8 and 8 and make many calls. By the end of the day (I normally go to bed and put the phone back on charge around midnight) the phone has maybe 45% battery left.
We today has been a typical day and it is 11pm yet the phone still claims to have 79% charge left. Yesterday was much the same.
I have the tornado software ramped up as well for a faster clock speed.
So either WM6.1 is a lot better at power management, WM6 had a big problem or the software is miss reporting.
Has anybody else seen this?
PS
If my new S740 is this good at power management when it arrives I will be very very impressed.
its a programs issues, with the oficial spanish ROM i got this problem, when i open camera or windows live messenger and pass to second plane, even with the wifi off, the programs consume a lot of energy, no idea why, with gonzo "mona liza" ROM my battery life its very long, even with a lot of wifi use, camera and msn open always, i think WM 6.1 work much better with the resources, Regards
I noticed the same thing today
After 6 hours of idle it used 1%, normally it consumes about 5-10% in that time on doing nothing.
I'm happy with it
LoL I'm using TPC and I'm used to those situation My phone stayed in idle for 3 days and the battery was about 57%...the I looked for composing an sms and...tadaaaaa...LOW battery 10%...so be aware that that is not a good method for measuring battery life.
Yes i was already afraid this would happen.
Ah well, i'll test it on my vox now too will post when i have information.

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