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Come in and share your experience (Raphael is the worst ) - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Hello everybody
i have bought htc touch pro like a month ago and i am very unsatisfied with its performance i used to have an iphone and then iphone 3g....and also i used to hate the iphone but now i am convinced the iphone is the best (i know it is missing some stuff but at least i was satisfied with the performance)
htc touch pro almost has the worst battery life if you use wifi or talk and text alot it is dead in the matter of 2 to 3 hours....also the worst touch screen compared to the iphone this is a primative touch screen.....if you didnot reboot the device in 24 hours you will find the most slow performance and you will see the battery dies so quickly that will make you ask why is it dying and i am not even using the phone.
btw it takes like 3 to 4 hours to charge this phone and it dies in the matter of 15 hours so technically u cant even use the phone a complete day.
this phone freezes on a daily basis if u r using it like a normal pda to check ur mail and go over stuff on wifi ...it come to a point and decides to stop working and just freezes like this.
the buttons below the screen are so bad, it is not easygoing as it should be and this circle with the cursor keys has a very limited applications where it should be of great use (can u imagine what it would be like to have this circle with the application of an ipod classic one)
basically this not a cheap phone and compared to its price this phone is the worst among all the other pdas and i have only mentioned like 25% of its flaws so i wouldnt recommend that anyone buy it......i cant even sell this thing again since i have bought it.
In my opinion this phone needs a good software to handle it cababilites and to work on this problems.....windows is a big dissapointment every where.
this phone is like a car with a very good engine but with a very bad driver ....where the software is the driver
please if some managed to solve any of these problems i would really appreciate an advice

i have none of those problems...

Do you have any software in there to help you clear memory and close out programs? Do you utilize Task Manager to close and empty memory? If the program does not have a close feature you are leaving it open and running it in the memory most likely causing most of your bog down issues.
This will also eat up some battery life as the phone is trying to keep track of XX number of applications running in the background. It could also be causing some of your freeze up issues.

On the other hand, WinMo phones are not for everyone as it handles a bit different than your average Sony Ericsson or LG phone.
I dont really experience any of the problems you mention above. Battery life is quite impressive for a phone of this kind, and its performance is really good! Just make sure you check your running tasks once in a while and close the ones draining the most memory (you can sort the list after memory usage). This clears up memory and reduces battery usage.
Good luck!

yes, i have spb pocket plus with its close menu thing. i close my apps every now and then, but havent seen any (very little) change in battery with all apps closed/menu disabled

Sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience with your TPro.
I on the other hand have been using WM PDAs for about 10 years and think the TPro is the best yet. (I've also used SE, nokia and even apple!)
The performance isn't blistering (Yet but it almost as fast as the HTC universal I had (With the 128MB RAM and over clocked to 625Mhz) There have been some good improvements with the cooked ROMs and this thing has only been out for 6 weeks.
The range of features are pretty much second to none. Ok multitouch is missing, but at least I can use a stylus! I believe there will be a multitouch interface on the TPro using the buttons pad pretty soon
Battery life is not as good as my SE that used to last 10 days. But then again it didn't do 1/10 of what this baby can. I'm currently getting about 2days of moderate usage from the phone. If I use wifi continuously to surf at the airport I get about 5hrs. Thats almost as much as my dell D630 with an extended battery and most of the power saving features turned on. Compared to my Universal it lasts for ever!
To be honest your view of this phone depends pretty much on how you use it. If you want something that looks pretty and you just want a phone with an MP3 player that occasionally allows you to use the web: get an iphone!
If you want something that can do pretty much anything you want it to and your happy to do some fine tuning get a WMobile device.

WizP said:
Sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience with your TPro.
I on the other hand have been using WM PDAs for about 10 years and think the TPro is the best yet. (I've also used SE, nokia and even apple!)
The performance isn't blistering (Yet but it almost as fast as the HTC universal I had (With the 128MB RAM and over clocked to 625Mhz) There have been some good improvements with the cooked ROMs and this thing has only been out for 6 weeks.
The range of features are pretty much second to none. Ok multitouch is missing, but at least I can use a stylus! I believe there will be a multitouch interface on the TPro using the buttons pad pretty soon
Battery life is not as good as my SE that used to last 10 days. But then again it didn't do 1/10 of what this baby can. I'm currently getting about 2days of moderate usage from the phone. If I use wifi continuously to surf at the airport I get about 5hrs. Thats almost as much as my dell D630 with an extended battery and most of the power saving features turned on. Compared to my Universal it lasts for ever!
To be honest your view of this phone depends pretty much on how you use it. If you want something that looks pretty and you just want a phone with an MP3 player that occasionally allows you to use the web: get an iphone!
If you want something that can do pretty much anything you want it to and your happy to do some fine tuning get a WMobile device.
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Well spoken. I totally agree with you.

Sounds like you haven't even applied the tweaks here to increase performance (very easily done). Mine has been fine.

no problems with my TP, battery lasts 3 to 4 days.
had it 3 weeks now not had to reboot it yet because of failure.

Hands down best phone i've ever had. Very powerfull and fast. Stock ROM sucked though, flashing it with one of the cooked ROMs gives you a completely different device.
I disconnected it from the charger this morning at 6.30 AM, it's now 12.30 am and i'm at 82% of my battery. 31 phonecalls, 19 emails, 3 sms, push email on, bleutooth on. So i cannot possibly complain about the batterylife. In the evening when i go to sleep at midnight i'm often at 30-40% wich is very good considering the heavy use.

I want a phone with this properties otherwise why would i have bought it .....other than that i always check my task manager and close the open applications every 2 to 3 hours .....the phone as i said has a very good hardware but the thing that bothers me the most is the battery life (i use my phone to check my mail alot and i receive alot of phone calls daily due to my work but i cant make it through the day if i dont charge it in the middle.
and something else i didnt try the tweaks because i beleive that the phone should work fine without them and better with them but i cant see that my phone works fine.
also fyi since i got the phone i added some applications to it as i was happy it was a windows mobile so i can add as much as i want but after i saw the battery life i now have no applications installed except the one i have seen here with the battery life tweak.
guys i see that you are happy with your phone and i am ok with that but i have had some bad experiences with it that i am not happy about

easily the best and by far the most stable wm device ever (at launch). battery life could be better, but you should be used to that with wm device i think. it always lasts a day for me.
it has 9 functions I use on a daily basis that other phones do not have, if you dont need these functions then an iphone is probably your best bet.

cisc0 said:
no problems with my TP, battery lasts 3 to 4 days.
had it 3 weeks now not had to reboot it yet because of failure.
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From what cisc0 and WDawn say, I'm almost convinced there is something wrong with my battery.
I leave the phone on charge durring the day on my desk, it takes a rediculous 6+ hours to charge from just under 10% to 100%. From 5:30pm to the next morning at 8am it will be back down to under 10% and it doesn't seem to matter if I use it a lot or not at all.
My TYTN II Kaiser charges in about 1 hour and lasts nearly 3 days, used exactly the same way with phone & WiFi on on permanently (no data or bluetooth or anything else).
The TYTN II and Kaiser are almost exactly the same +50mah on The Touch Pro battery and a slightly faster ARM processor. Assume the WiFi, Radio chipsets and charging circuits are similar too - but might not be.
I've put all the tweaks on but havent really noticed any difference.

Gav_ said:
From what cisc0 and WDawn say, I'm almost convinced there is something wrong with my battery.
I leave the phone on charge durring the day on my desk, it takes a rediculous 6+ hours to charge from just under 10% to 100%. From 5:30pm to the next morning at 8am it will be back down to under 10% and it doesn't seem to matter if I use it a lot or not at all.
My TYTN II Kaiser charges in about 1 hour and lasts nearly 3 days, used exactly the same way with phone & WiFi on on permanently (no data or bluetooth or anything else).
The TYTN II and Kaiser are almost exactly the same +50mah on The Touch Pro battery and a slightly faster ARM processor. Assume the WiFi, Radio chipsets and charging circuits are similar too - but might not be.
I've put all the tweaks on but havent really noticed any difference.
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Are you guys using the a/c adapter to charge or mini-usb cable? Because using the usb takes longer to charge and also doesn't charge nearly as well than if you use the a/c adapter.
Also, out of curiosity, did you charge the battery completely before first using the device out of the package? It's always good to fully charge and fully drain a cell phone on first use, otherwise some people report battery life issues.

applied all the tweaks...
and seriously... this is the best phone I owned.. most of the problems people complained about, I don't face...
either I am very lucky or blessed...

orlandojumpoff said:
Are you guys using the a/c adapter to charge or mini-usb cable? Because using the usb takes longer to charge and also doesn't charge nearly as well than if you use the a/c adapter.
Also, out of curiosity, did you charge the battery completely before first using the device out of the package? It's always good to fully charge and fully drain a cell phone on first use, otherwise some people report battery life issues.
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I'm using the AC Adaptor.
One thing though, if the phone is switched off (fully off) it charges within 2 hours. But when on (even with the screen off) it takes 6+ hours.
The first time I charged it was with the AC adaptor, fully charged, but the phone was switched on. Would be worth trying to reset the memory in the battery and re-chargin with the phone off - but no idea how to reset the battery or if it is possible.
Other than this and thanks to fixing all other problems with tweaks from here, great phone. I'm sure a fix for this will be found.

Gav_ said:
I'm using the AC Adaptor.
One thing though, if the phone is switched off (fully off) it charges within 2 hours. But when on (even with the screen off) it takes 6+ hours.
The first time I charged it was with the AC adaptor, fully charged, but the phone was switched on. Would be worth trying to reset the memory in the battery and re-chargin with the phone off - but no idea how to reset the battery or if it is possible.
Other than this and thanks to fixing all other problems with tweaks from here, great phone. I'm sure a fix for this will be found.
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well i hope the sprint version is improved somewhat.. they went out of their way to add a better battery to the diamond, so maybe they tweaked the TP's as well.

Ill give you my mogul for your touch pro ALL DAY LONG.
I am going to get a new mogul on the insurance replacement, it will be bran spankin new for you. I will even throw in an extra (old and looks like it) for parts

The TP is hands down the best device ever...and compared to the WM devices available on the American market...there is nothing that comes close. Fastest, prettiest, most useful device ever. All phones that are used for more than just dialing numbers have their share of issues (that's what happens when you multitask...even humans gets sloppy when they do it). I am so happy HTC created something to keep me from the iPhone and Blackberry. I have never been this happy before.
I am in so much love, think I'm getting an HD when it comes out. I will alternate between the two depending on my mood. But the great news, I'm not like the 80% of my friends that have an iPhone and can't Copy/Paste!

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Touch Pro & Battery life dispute!

It has been quite interesting to watch all those threads for the above topic which of course lead to nowhere so far.
I would not exclude myself of the dispute, however we need to think of the issue in a practical methodology and thus conclude what the facts would lead to.
There has been many complaints and unhappy people about the battery life in Touch Pro and many other models. Just a simple question I ask; What would be an acceptable avarage battery life with one full charge? I am sure responses will vary coz there is no standard expectation nor a universal benchmark for this issue!
Whatever the vendor guarantees as an operating expectency measured in hours, is more or less what you gonna get although many wont accept it, but this is it, you gotta live with it!
There are 1000s of users with 10000s of applications and conditions that have high expectations, but they all get even results, so why complain?
What I am trying to highlight is if many have expressed their dissatisfaction of the battery life, I just say; who's right & who's not? Do we all expect to have the same results? My device may run for 3 days with one charge and couple of calls throughout, others may have tougher uses and expect a battery to last for 7 days in a row with just one single charge?
Just think about it and have a collective understanding.

Cyber-mate said:
It has been quite interesting to watch all those threads for the above topic which of course lead to nowhere so far.
I would not exclude myself of the dispute, however we need to think of the issue in a practical methodology and thus conclude what the facts would lead to.
There has been many complaints and unhappy people about the battery life in Touch Pro and many other models. Just a simple question I ask; What would be an acceptable avarage battery life with one full charge? I am sure responses will vary coz there is no standard expectation nor a universal benchmark for this issue!
Whatever the vendor guarantees as an operating expectency measured in hours, is more or less what you gonna get although many wont accept it, but this is it, you gotta live with it!
There are 1000s of users with 10000s of application and conditions that have high expectations, but they all get even results, so why complain?
What I am trying to highligh is if many have expressed their dissatisfaction of the battery life, I just say; who's right & who's not? Do we all expect to have the same results? My device may run for 3 days with one charge and couple of calls throughout, others may have tougher uses and expect a battery to last for 7 days in a row with just one single charge?
Just think about it and have a collective understanding.
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ya made a wise statement here.....couldn't agree more ...

yep, 2nd that
a wm device drains a lot more battery than other phones because it does sooo much more. and its not device specific either

maybe if someone creat app to change CPU to 200- 300 and so on if don`t used for heavy apps will incress battery life. In the PSP there is app like this ans when I used it only for play music set procesor to 100 Mhz

I have had the phone for a week now. I like it. I like how pretty much everything works. I don't see much of any problem but the battery life. Why didn't they put a larger battery in. My Mogul has a 1650 in it. Yesterday morning the phone had a complete charge. I went to worship and used it very little in the morning. By noon time where I showed the phone off to a friend who is thinking of getting one, the phone charge was down below 50%. It should have been 70 or 80% and no less, IMHO.

I've posted this link before on a different section.
http://www.hardwarezone.com.au/reviews/view.php?id=2726&cid=24&pg=6
I get nearly 4 hours as well if I use mine full on. Tried watching a full length movie and my battery meter shows ~50% afterwards.
I thought OP might be interested in seeing this review.

I don't think it's really an issue of someone being right or wrong. I think 24 hours is just a particular limit for cellphones, and once it dips below that we start to worry about the next time we'll be near a power plug. After all, these are devices that we use on a daily basis.
If the batteries lasted 2-3 days, then it wouldn't be a big deal if we forgot to charge once in a while (late night, canceled flight, forgot charger, etc). But as it is, people are having trouble pushing it past 24 hours even under modrate usage, which means if they miss even one charge cycle, they're dead in the water the next day.
Of course usage is a different issue; but if you start modifying your usage habits in an effort to prolong battery life, that's still the same problem. You could turn off 3G, stop mail checking, always close background apps, etc; but without any of those features you might as well use a regular dumbphone -- no point in getting a device like the Touch Pro in the first place.

Last week we went on a short holiday. Both my girlfriend and I have a TP running RomeOS v1.13. She has a GSM prepaid card and I have a GSM/3G/H card.
Her battery lasted 4 working days occasionally calling home to check on the kids and sending a few SMS messages.
I used my phone to check email and LIVE messenger. My battery lasted no more than 20 hours.
So if you by a full featured phone, just to use it as a basic phone you won't complain that much I think. If like me you want to use a full set of features pffffffff... And if you don't mind I would like to keep it at that

My first serious WM phone (I don't count the ridiculous HP 6315) was the Samsung i730. I am a very heavy user and I got used to charging it in he car & carrying a spare battery in my pocket. If it made it to 6PM without going dead I was happy.
The Touch Pro has the same screaming 528 mhz processor speed, plus a vga screen. If it makes it to the end of the day, then I'll be more than happy (haven't received mine yet, it's in the mail). There's always a trade off for speed and resolution. I'd rather carry an extra battery than have a frustratingly slow processor.

I've had my TP for a week now and with a pretty heavy usage, my messenger is almost always on, some internet browsing and a little bit of monkey island on scummvm, my battery lasts 2 days. I can live with that.

Mr.Raato said:
I've had my TP for a week now and with a pretty heavy usage, my messenger is almost always on, some internet browsing and a little bit of monkey island on scummvm, my battery lasts 2 days. I can live with that.
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Which Messenger are you using? I'm trying to find a good Google Talk client that won't drain my battery.

The battery should be expected to last a day. Past that, would be nice, but I do not feel it is necessary...
If the phone won't even last me a day (and "a day" for me is 14-16 hours at school and work) then it really isn't going to work for me. I hate trying to search for 5-10 minutes to have the phone plugged in during the middle of the day to try to extend the battery to make it just past that 12 hour mark for me.
The CDMA Touch Pro doesn't seem to do too well. Sitting idle, it had about 40% battery after 14 hours, but then dropped extremely quickly after that... I must have sent 10-12 texts and was in a call for about 10 minutes the entire day, no programs running in the background, only the cell radio turned on.

Cyber-mate said:
It has been quite interesting to watch all those threads for the above topic which of course lead to nowhere so far.
I would not exclude myself of the dispute, however we need to think of the issue in a practical methodology and thus conclude what the facts would lead to.
There has been many complaints and unhappy people about the battery life in Touch Pro and many other models. Just a simple question I ask; What would be an acceptable avarage battery life with one full charge? I am sure responses will vary coz there is no standard expectation nor a universal benchmark for this issue!
Whatever the vendor guarantees as an operating expectency measured in hours, is more or less what you gonna get although many wont accept it, but this is it, you gotta live with it!
There are 1000s of users with 10000s of applications and conditions that have high expectations, but they all get even results, so why complain?
What I am trying to highlight is if many have expressed their dissatisfaction of the battery life, I just say; who's right & who's not? Do we all expect to have the same results? My device may run for 3 days with one charge and couple of calls throughout, others may have tougher uses and expect a battery to last for 7 days in a row with just one single charge?
Just think about it and have a collective understanding.
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I agree with you 100% - except here is the problem: the vendor guarantees (well, doesn't "guarantee", but no vendor really "guarantees") a battery life that is absolutely not right.
On the Touch Pro, Sprint says the phone has a standby of 406 hours - that's 16 days! Incredibly misleading, and in my estimation definitely not accurate. That's the biggest problem I have with the whole battery issue.
Also, in comparison, my Mogul was suppose to have 340 hours of standby and 30% less talk time - but my Mogul lasted a LOT longer than this phone. I could talk, surf, play games, and have it still last longer than this phone. That doesn't make any sense.

eryeal said:
I agree with you 100% - except here is the problem: the vendor guarantees (well, doesn't "guarantee", but no vendor really "guarantees") a battery life that is absolutely not right.
On the Touch Pro, Sprint says the phone has a standby of 406 hours - that's 16 days! Incredibly misleading, and in my estimation definitely not accurate. That's the biggest problem I have with the whole battery issue.
Also, in comparison, my Mogul was suppose to have 340 hours of standby and 30% less talk time - but my Mogul lasted a LOT longer than this phone. I could talk, surf, play games, and have it still last longer than this phone. That doesn't make any sense.
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Alright, alright, alright! Let's not mention the biggest and silliest gimmick PPC vendors made us believe in specially those of high-end CPU ones
I might have been worng in choosing "guarantee", but who says! When you read "Stand-by" I am sure that the vendor wouldn't in gods name mean "with any GSM/CDMA network"! I mean just think about't!! Why in heavens name would they shoot themselves in the foot by committing such a thing
I could defy anyone who would tell me that "Stand by" is a standard by itself! Haven't you read "The above are subject to network and phone usage" in phone specs?
In addition to the above, network signal strength matters and is very fundemental to extend/shorten battery life too!
Whether or not the battery was of 1300mAh or 1600mAh, it is all the CPU power management and I am pretty sure that Qualcomm is unlike the Intel XScale as the olden memories remind me of
Like most of you rightly said; change your habit and the battery life will change accordingly.
Just a last lil thought, why isn't there a quick options made available in the market for a higher amperage batteries? If one would care about the total gram units, then I recommend to live with the supplied battery.
Let's all cherish the memory of the HTC Universal, that baby was a hot long-lusty orgasmic son of gun device ever was.

I feel the term "standby time" has been used loosely, never in working with wireless phones have I found a machine that is capable of being on this long without being charged. Notice the "up to" that is always there on these kinds of stats too. What does up to mean? Probably something to do with turning off all the radios so the phone can't actually do anything, it might as well be off.
No matter what you do, computers require a lot of power to maintain themselves in any sort of "on" state. If there are any background processes happening (i.e. cellular radio sniffing for incoming calls and sms) you are really only burning power at a rate less than that of radios + screen.
Phones consume more power than phones did even a few years ago, hell they consume a lot more. Does anyone remember first-gen digital phones? 2 hours battery life, talk/standby, didn't make a difference. In fact the batteries used in mobile phones have changed (lion/nicad etc) probably a lot less than the manufacturers' ability to use less power to get the job done.
You can always strap on a bigger battery, but then you have a bigger phone, making it even HEAVIER!
Ultimately, as others have posted before me, that when you buy a touch pro, it is because you are looking for all the functionality that the machine entails. If you use all of the functions at the same time you are burning the candle at both ends. We buy a phone with a gps, bluetooth, wifi, 3g, vga screen qwerty, 3.2mp camera, etc because we need (or want) all of these features at the same time. When you are using the gps while having bluetooth on visible, screen full bright, wifi still on and music playing, don't be surprised your battery won't get you through the day.
I think that the general consensus here is that typically we should be able to get about 1 day out of the pro. Any more, we are lucky, any less, you either have a defective unit or you may have unrealistic expectations of the device.
That being said, after a few weeks go by and you find yourself actually being able to put the damn phone down for a while, battery life will seem longer too

My experience:
I've come from an XScale phone, which runs Linux and doesn't have 10% of what Pro does (like GPS, wifi, 3G, SDHC support, VGA screen, G sensor, light sensor, etc.) and even without all that it doesn't have a great battery life. I had to recharge it everyday sometimes, because I had pretty heavy use (especially A2DP audio).
With the Pro I can do that and much more and still get at least a full day of battery, which for me is good enough.
Tell me one device that has the same size does everything the Pro does with better battery life.
Unfortunately we are still to see better batteries, which I've read a lot about, especially that nanowire technology which supposedly makes them 10x better, but until then there isn't much we can do. So I don't think it's fair to blame a manufacturer, HTC or not, for poor battery life, because IMHO they did an impressive job on making such a small device with so much power, and still manage a full day of moderate use.

I find that TF3D is a real power hog too. Although I really like the interface, I am trying a run with SPB Mobile Shell instead
It is 3:30PM EST now, I unplugged the phone after a solid charge at 8PM, immediately changing to SPBMS.
It is now about 20 hours later and I have 63% remaining, that is a 37% discharge. I have been using the phone normally for the purpose of this experiment and normally the phone would be at about 30% remaining with tf3d.
There is a thread about this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441767

Hi All,
I'm wondering if besides the GPS, WiFi, 3G and Bluetooth.... the application processor, running at 528MHZ is not a cause for this poor battery life time?
Adrian

The reasons why we read many different opinions is that people use phones in very different ways. I can usually cope with the short battery life but sometimes it is really annoying. It just needs a few hours in a bad coverage area and the battery drains completely. Or an unexpected need for TomTom to make the battery go flat before I get back home in the evening. I used an HTC P3600 (which is a very similar phone from a featureset point of view) for two years and I never had to worry not to listen to music at the airport or on a plane because I wouldn't be able to use the phone after landing. Instead I have had this problem already twice with the Pro... this terrible battery life is really spoiling my user experience with this phone.

Smaniac said:
Tell me one device that has the same size does everything the Pro does with better battery life.
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Well, as I said in my previous post, discounting the hardware keyboard and the fact that it wasn't a very attractive phone my old HTC P3600 used to do exactly the same things with a much longer battery life.

Battery Life Diminishes with Cooked ROMs

Hello all,
I was wondering if there are any other S710 users who have been experiencing battery issues with the HTC Vox.
For a while I was running Dr. Gonzo's Guava Rom and everything was great with it all except for the battery life. I didn't pay much attention to it, but it finally got on my nerves. It came to the point where I could only use the phone for around 14-16 hours under moderate use and wifi+bt OFF after a full charge.
Today, I flashed the VOX with fireburned CLEAN v1.2. and it seems to be the same. I don't recall having this issue with the Official ROM.
Battery issue? any ideas? I dont want to spend money on an extended battery if it is a software issue.
Much appreciated!

It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
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Did not notice anything as such. My Vox is nearly 1 Year 4 months old. So I am not expecting much from it.
Because during my initial flashing, I never had any noticeable battery performance issues. I have flashed almost all ROMs of Dr. G's, a couple of fh's and 3 of fireburned's ROM, about to flash with the 4th

I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.

gwmnx said:
I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.
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I think you may have a hardware issue (not sure though). When I am not travelling, my phones battery at the end of the day shows more or less 60% charge left. I use flexmail to check my mails every hour. If there is any mail worth reading, then I use i.e. to check mails. So I think you can consider it moderate GPRS usage, plus there are of course voice calls . Though I do not use wifi or BT.
If you plan to buy a new battery though, I think it will be better if you go for an extended battery.

I read in another topic that it's somehow related to the Radio version.

parthabhatta said:
It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
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Parthabhatta, what were shipping charges to india? how much is the total cost? How much time does it take in delivery?
i am looking to buy a new one same 1100mAh.

Because im new with Vox in generally can someone tell me what should be aproximated battery life with vox? (NO wifi, NO bt, 1-2h/day using normal phone calling)
What could be normal battery life with TCPMP and movie divx 320x240 256kbit ?

Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.

gwmnx said:
Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.
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Hi gwmnx!
The same problem i have to, my battery life is very poor , maxim 10- 12 hours(no wifi/no bt), without browsing internet or other else and battery dies.
I buy a new battery, and exact same problem with it, in maximum 14 hours is finished
I was in a service , and they verify my batterys, and they told me the batterys is very good both.
And probably the phone have a hardware issue , but they don't know to repare it because they don't have a electronic schematic of my phone
I tested 3 ROM's by now, but nothing is change, with every ROM, same problem.
I don't know what to do and what to say, i'm very disappointed
Excuse me for bad English , i don't speak very well!

Same issue i am facing here. My phone battery dies in 10-12 hours. Don't know if it happens due to lot of ROM upgrades everyday or using overclocking...
I am going to purchase a new battery soon. If that also works same, i will revert to original VOX 6.0 ROM. No overlcoking, no R&D, no research no development further because you need to compromise with hardware malfuntioning, damages etc against this kind of R&D.

Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.

For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
Thanks

ragsAnurag said:
For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
Thanks
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How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.

there are some roms that kills the battery life to around half or more. like gonzo's latest rose rom.

parthabhatta said:
Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.
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Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?

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Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?
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Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.

parthabhatta said:
Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.
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Great man! Rs.948 is still cheaper, HTC service centre rates are Rs1390.
What do you mean by Extended battery? Any difference from normal battery?
And what about 2250mAh battery, does it fit fine or looks odd?

2250 mAh is the extended battery. I didnot buy although it was comparatively cheaper because to me it will not only look odd but make the phone bulky and heavier too. But now i feel that 2250 would have been a better choice as i am an avid gprs user. Now think and buy- difference of only 2.5/3 USD.

gwmnx said:
How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.
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Well, being in browser doesn't mean your homescreen is off. Sliding panel itself consumes lots of battery. Just change your homescreen from settings to something else not related to sliding panel or Rose Homescreen. For a change just change it back to windows default. let it be changed for a day (You won't loose anything). I strongly believe there would be some difference in battery consumption and consumption will be lesser.
Thanks
Extended Battery really looks too odd. it looks like you've added another battery

How long does your battery last?

Hello friends, I currently have a fuze flashed with NRG's latest EnergyROM and I can only push about 5 hrs of heavy use or 8hrs of light use.
Light use consists of:
150 Text messages,
Email every 15 minutes,
3G Turned off
20 Minutes total talk time (Not even sometimes)
Windows Live Messenger online (not the whole day, just a couple hours) and maybe having a 20 minute IM conversation.
Heavy use consists off:
Music Playing
Heavy Texting (300 or more texts)
Screen on most of the time
Most use on EDGE
Browse a couple websites
Maybe some youtube on 3G
I have uninstalled Gyrator to get better life.
I have flashed many ROMs and I this is the best I can get to. How is your experiences? I'm willing to flash 6.1 or 6.5. Let me know what works for you with ROM + Radio + Rilphone combo you have. Thanks!

Everything depends on the rom u have installed. Try this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528217

i drop about 5 pct an hour without doing anything at all

lbhocky19 said:
i drop about 5 pct an hour without doing anything at all
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did u check to see if ur rilphone.dll matches ur radio? cuz thats one possibility thats causing the rapid drops

My battery lasts about 2 days if I don't use the phone heavily but I think that if you squeeze a day out of your Pro with heavy use as you mentioned, you can be glad...
Most of the smartphones use a lot of battery in case of heavy use....

my stock battery lasts me something like 24 hours with medium use. battery life is very radio/rom/charge pattern dependant.

bedobela said:
My battery lasts about 2 days if I don't use the phone heavily but I think that if you squeeze a day out of your Pro with heavy use as you mentioned, you can be glad...
Most of the smartphones use a lot of battery in case of heavy use....
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Right, but even with the slightest use I can only squeeze no more than 10 hrs. I tried every lots of combos with radio and ROMs. NATF 4.7 and Elite RC4 was pretty good enough but I want WM 6.5. Im gonna try the radio you have on your sig just for the heck of it and an almost empty ROM to see what I can accomplish.
Thank you everyone

ya i made sure to match up rilphone

Put it like this... im running Energyrom and I took my phone off the charger at 7 am EST. Right now it's 10:10 EST and I'm down to almost 65% already. That's with Beejive, Seven email with 3 accounts and about 10-15 texts. If I didnt like the rom so much I wouldve dumped it long ago but I just suffer and carry a charger with me.

Check out this program.

brownhornet said:
Put it like this... im running Energyrom and I took my phone off the charger at 7 am EST. Right now it's 10:10 EST and I'm down to almost 65% already. That's with Beejive, Seven email with 3 accounts and about 10-15 texts. If I didnt like the rom so much I wouldve dumped it long ago but I just suffer and carry a charger with me.
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I know what you mean. It REALLY hurts but at least you make it thru the day. I can't. But EnergyROM is so slick and fast... I tried the Dynasty Rom its one of the best on battery I've ever had but its a little too buggy for my taste and the iPhone like home screen is not my thing.
Bruce Inman said:
Check out this program.
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Thanks, I'll try that

I have been able to reduce the battery consumption to almost zero on stand by. But it uses 1-2% per minute on Wifi or GPS use. Infact it gets drained fater than it gets charged if GPS is used connected to car charger, with data and WiFi off.
My only gripe is that it gets drained fater than it charges on car charger when GPS is ON.

DJGonzo said:
Light use consists of:
150 Text messages,
Email every 15 minutes,
3G Turned off
20 Minutes total talk time (Not even sometimes)
Windows Live Messenger online (not the whole day, just a couple hours) and maybe having a 20 minute IM conversation.
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If this is light use, then I am Osama bin Laden. 150 messages, WLM and IM means that your display is on most of the time (while reading and replying), and display is one of the great consumers of the battery. Also, the fact that your checking email so often, and you're on internet through IM and WLM, means that you're online practically all the time. Internet is the greatest battery killer, btw. Anyway, I would recommend you to use the stock ROM because the battery lasts longer than majority of custom ROMs, and if don't want that, you shouldn't use 6.5 OS - it's a battery hog at this time. Also, lower your backlight, set in power settings "Turn off the device after 1 minute" and do a search on this forum about more battery saving tips.

pilgrim011 said:
If this is light use, then I am Osama bin Laden. 150 messages, WLM and IM means that your display is on most of the time (while reading and replying), and display is one of the great consumers of the battery. Also, the fact that your checking email so often, and you're on internet through IM and WLM, means that you're online practically all the time. Internet is the greatest battery killer, btw. Anyway, I would recommend you to use the stock ROM because the battery lasts longer than majority of custom ROMs, and if don't want that, you shouldn't use 6.5 OS - it's a battery hog at this time. Also, lower your backlight, set in power settings "Turn off the device after 1 minute" and do a search on this forum about more battery saving tips.
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I know the brightness is a total killer. Last year I had 15 phones... My SIM card is so beat up that it looks like a dog chewed on it. I know all the battery saving tips. I just can't make it work. I do not constantly check WLM. Just once maybe a half hour but I do not IM. I just leave it on. The blackjack II lasts me a whole day from 7 to 12 with email, WLM, major texting, browsing the web and more. I'm not comparing the 2 but the battery life REALLY sucks on this thing. Stock ROM is too slow and useless for my taste. I'm flashing timlol's like-stock ROM to see. The Dynasty ROM really has good battery life but its too buggy. Man I sound so pessimistic. Lol. I still love this phone.

tahdor said:
I have been able to reduce the battery consumption to almost zero on stand by. But it uses 1-2% per minute on Wifi or GPS use. Infact it gets drained fater than it gets charged if GPS is used connected to car charger, with data and WiFi off.
My only gripe is that it gets drained fater than it charges on car charger when GPS is ON.
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I never had that problem. I use google maps on 3G and GPS and it lasts me at least 4 hours on a full charge. You might have a radio/rilphone problem. Try flashing another radio with a matching rilphone

DJGonzo said:
I know the brightness is a total killer. Last year I had 15 phones... My SIM card is so beat up that it looks like a dog chewed on it. I know all the battery saving tips. I just can't make it work. I do not constantly check WLM. Just once maybe a half hour but I do not IM. I just leave it on. The blackjack II lasts me a whole day from 7 to 12 with email, WLM, major texting, browsing the web and more. I'm not comparing the 2 but the battery life REALLY sucks on this thing. Stock ROM is too slow and useless for my taste. I'm flashing timlol's like-stock ROM to see. The Dynasty ROM really has good battery life but its too buggy. Man I sound so pessimistic. Lol. I still love this phone.
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You don't have to check WLM or IM all the time, it's enough that you are connected to web all the time. Blackjack II has a 2,4" display wioth 320x240 resolution, & Raphael 2,8", 480x640. HTC could've integrate bigger battery, but then our Raphael would be a fat piggy phone.
Btw., Timolol's ROM is pretty stable & good on battery - good choice.

dont forget batteries aren't meant to be permanent. they are consumables!
After 1 year of normal usage you should notice the battery isn't quite what it used to be. after 2 years, it will seem like it needs more charges then it did before.
After 3 years and longer, IMO, its just time to replace the battery.
I replace by laptop battery every 2 years (same chemistry as my cellphone battery), and each time I am shocked and how bad the old one was.
New is always better in the case of batteries.
My next point is that HEAT is the main enemy to any battery. Keeping the phone in your pocket or hot car is worse then in a purse or on a table.
Aside from that, theres a ton of good info above about lowering the drain on the battery and therefore increasing its useful life.

ryaske said:
dont forget batteries aren't meant to be permanent. they are consumables!
After 1 year of normal usage you should notice the battery isn't quite what it used to be. after 2 years, it will seem like it needs more charges then it did before.
After 3 years and longer, IMO, its just time to replace the battery.
I replace by laptop battery every 2 years (same chemistry as my cellphone battery), and each time I am shocked and how bad the old one was.
New is always better in the case of batteries.
My next point is that HEAT is the main enemy to any battery. Keeping the phone in your pocket or hot car is worse then in a purse or on a table.
Aside from that, theres a ton of good info above about lowering the drain on the battery and therefore increasing its useful life.
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Well unfortunately, I must keep my phone inside my pocket or in a case most of the time since I go to school and I do not want the teachers on my case. And looks like the rapahel likes to run a little hot and I'm really scared for my battery. But at least I have two (one from my old Fuze which only lasted me a month since i broke it :-( )
But yeah, my phone gets warm sometimes, and its with most radios. Some more than others but even with matching rilphone. Not sure what thats all about...

About half a day or so, but that's with me listening to music most of the day and EDGE with Exchange Activesync on.

I used to have crazy battery drain. RRE I got 5 hours tops with 3g on and a bit of internet and texting. NRG synergy rom I got 8-10 hours in GSM mode only with 1 hour of internet and a hand ful of texts.
I just flashed my radio to 1.14.25.05 and flashed the new warhawk NRG rom and I took my phone off the charger at 945am and its currently 5pm and Ive been texting most of the day with 3g on and Im currently at 82% battery. All settings are just as they are set right out the box with a freshly flashed warhawk rom.

[Q]Mango Battery Life?

All right, so here's the big question. Okay, one of the big questions. For all yous who have DL'd and installed the Mango beta, how's the battery life?
I have a NoDo'd DVP and I generally can get 9 and a half to 12 and a half hours on a single charge depending on what I'm doing. Games being the biggest battery vampire I've found, thus far. Streaming vid a close second (perhaps tied).

Can't tell any difference. Never been an issue on my Arrive. It says I have 16 hours left(with battery saver kicking in if it gets critically low), and it has been 12 hours since my last charge.
I play a few games a day. Some web. Music. Testing of Mango features. Getting features to work. Lot's of texts. And my 3 email accounts syncing frequently.
I do have wifi disabled as that was preventing speech recognition from connecting to MS servers for some reason. So that may have improved battery life a little.

Good to know. Figured it would be about the same. The real test is how it will do once the LTE/HSPA+ devices hit.

I'm actually noticing better battery life. I definitely have been playing with the phone a lot since Mango, even more than normal, and the battery has been pretty awesome so far. Course its not scientific, but it appears that I'm getting more hours out of it than pre-Mango.

I think it's better in Mango but it's hard to say how much and if any better at all. If I had 2 windows phones I'd love totest it to find out.
Anyway I'm really happy with mango, I have to stop using facebook chat or I'll not get any work done today!

the battery life is better,just remember that multitask is in now
In previous version you don't have it

In my situation (lg optimus 7) battery life seems a little bit shorter than NoDo...
I turn on the phone in the morning (8-9 am) and I've to plug in for charge at night (11pm-12am)..
I've 2-3 live tiles active in the home screen... with NoDo i Could permform 1 and a half day of usage... I think this is a mango bug, or my battery just need a recalibration for the new O.S.
I'll check it in the upcoming days

I feel like my battery life has gotten worse, but I have 4 live tiles running and facebook chat on, although I had the same on my nodo device save facebook chat. And I think the battery saver option basically just allows you to turn the feature off. Wasn't the whole stopping push notifications done automatically in nodo when the battery was low? Now you just have to option to disable and kill your battery faster.

Hmm, I too have the feeling the battery life is worse. I just recharged to 100% and battery saver says I have 23 hrs left. After 1 hour without doing anything I have 80% (17 hours) left . I turned on airplane mode and disabled location now to see if it's getting better.

I also feel the battery life got worse. However, remember this is a debugged build, it's logging alot more as you are using it and I'm sure there's still alot more optimizations to go.
With that being said, I'll gladly take 2-3 days instead of 3+ days on a single charge for the features added. For those only getting 12+ hours, somethings wrong with your phone. There's not that much more getting executed vs NoDo until more devs take advantage of background services and live tile updates.

Hmm, yeah maybe my battery is quite exhausted already. I use the phone daily listening to music at the train, playing a game or two and browsing. That is, I recharge every single night and sometimes again in the afternoon. So I guess I have recharged the phone ~300 times since I purchased it last year.

Overall, better. I did opt for the 1800mah battery for my Trophy and it did help a little (keep the OEM one always charged, just in case). I think it works better

Its quite a bit better for me. I can usually go through a full day with battery saver generally kicking in near the end of the day (9-10pm). Bluetooth headsets for music does kick it down a bit but not terribly, usually my BT headset runs out before my phone.
Focus/mango.

redviper666 said:
Its quite a bit better for me. I can usually go through a full day with battery saver generally kicking in near the end of the day (9-10pm). Bluetooth headsets for music does kick it down a bit but not terribly, usually my BT headset runs out before my phone.
Focus/mango.
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Interesting, I knew back in WM 6.5 using a BT headset would take a 12 hour battery and make it last no more than 6 and that was if you didn't talk on the phone much.
Is Bluetooth better with WP7 where it's a very minor battery loss ? ( might pick up a new bt headset)

Mine is better. But only slightly. Eg. 45min to 1 hr better.
I'm using a Focus

cohowap said:
I also feel the battery life got worse. However, remember this is a debugged build, it's logging alot more as you are using it and I'm sure there's still alot more optimizations to go.
With that being said, I'll gladly take 2-3 days instead of 3+ days on a single charge for the features added. For those only getting 12+ hours, somethings wrong with your phone. There's not that much more getting executed vs NoDo until more devs take advantage of background services and live tile updates.
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how do u know that its doing logging??

if yr sim card is more than 2 years old y will experience battery drain

There is definitely a bug in battery saver

There are to things to think about: The first one is that we have update our phones to Mango, but not the manufacturer so we have old drivers with new OS. And the second is that at least I, i've been so far 8 months with my HTC Trophy so the battery also losses capacity (mAh) in this time. In 1 year usually a battery only has 80% of its original capacity.

I have actually feel the better battery life.

[Q] Battery life?

How is the battery life on the MT? If it's poor (stock), have you found a good utility app to help it last longer?

I usually get about 24 hours of battery life on mine. I have gps turned off most of the time and I'm on wifi a lot with light to moderate usage. I did notice that if I have the GPS on, that the battery does go down much quicker. I assume that's because it keeps trying to get a location even when I'm indoors and it's having a hard time.
Although, I've read a lot of people complain about poor battery life so YMMV.

It depends greatly on whether data is working or not. Usually, I'll have around 90% battery 2 hours into the day. But if data isn't working, like today, I'll go down to 80% in as little as 20 minutes.
Usually, I'll have around 20% after 12 hours. Been giving it a charge in the afternoon, and it hasn't been an issue.

I use Juice defender, and it does wonders for my battery life.

I've found battery life to be comparable to other Android devices; with effective battery management, mine gets me through the work day. My wife has the Optimus V and I have coworkers, one with a Droid X, the other with an Evo; my battery life is no better and no worse than any of those devices. With any smartphone you're going to have to turn off unused radios and turn down screen brightness if you're going to be away from a charger for a long period of time.
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Heavy use is the real killer on the Triumph. With just the screen on (minimal brightness) and network on (bad coverage), I can drain the battery by about 1% every minute. And that's no exaggeration -- Battery Indicator Pro keeps track for me. I'm working on a spreadsheet to help chart battery drain during different scenarios.

Thanks for all the replies. Basically what I was expecting, but like to have confirmation
Now to find a good place to buy one. Will probably hit Bestbuy due to return convenience and policies.
Edit: Purchased at Bestbuy, and actually ran into Sprint rep who had one I could look at. We exchanged a few geek tips.
One thing I noticed: I have an LG brand microUSB charger, and the phone would not charge from it when turned on, tho it would charge when turned off. I had an older Motorola microUSB charger and it works fine either phone on or off.

I am getting a whole day of battery life with heavy use. I turned off the background data and turned off all sync. Using the email client with one hour pull with imap instead of the gmail client... Couldn't be happier with the phone...
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Yeah, I have also found that turning off sync can get you through the day with less battery used.
Depending on how much I use the Triumph, I can run the battery down in about 2-3 hours (with constant use) or have it run all day long and in to the next day (if I only use it for 1 or 2 short calls during the day.)

My motorola Triumph's Battery Life
I have waited months to post my reviews. I had a Virgin Mobile Intercept and upgraded to this the day after it came out.
Battery life is HORRENDOUS. Not sure how anyone can possibly say its "OK". Sure if you are sitting at home or in the office all day, You can continually have it plugged in and charged. My lighter socket doesn't work in my car ATM so thank GOD I don't drive a lot, and for long periods, I would be SCREWED.
Essentially yes if you turn off GPS, Wi-Fi, Syncing your emails and such, etc etc, then your battery will last longer. But what good is the phone then? I have owned many other androids and they worked for almost a full day with moderate usage with ALL of those things turned on and sync'ing (including Latitude and automatic check-ins). I have lost all of that. I have google talk catching up for hours-old conversations whenever I hit a wifi spot that's saved in my phone.
Juice Defender was my "solution" But it has rendered my phone practically useless for anything besides just having a phone handy when needed. No apps, no moe use of all the bells and whistles that I loved about android in the first place!
I am dealing with it. It just sucks. Sure there are other smartphones with similar issues, and poor battery life, but this has to be possibly the worst or one of the worst. It just is highly unfortunate that this is the case.
Also: Bluetooth syncing works 50% of the time. Constantly have to turn it off and on to get my jawbone(s) to sync. God forbid you answer a call and want to switch over to bluetooth. In those cases it works about 20% of the time.
This is not a good phone for people who are out and about all day or drivers of any sort, unless you have it plugged in the entire day. Forget about using it as a GPS unless its plugged in either, that will drain you battery to 0% in less than an hour.
People say this is due to poor design and rushed to market with crappy signal reception and GPS reception, same with bluetooth antennae. This might be the case, I ALSO have mine suddenly have NO BARS for no reason and I have to power off and on the phone to get a signal back.
ALSO half the time I am out and about and need data connection over 3G, even with bars I get NOTHING. It's very frustrating not to be able to use the phone for what I want to use it for.
I will be getting rid of this puppy as soon as possible and I would do it sooner if I didn't want to avoid a 2year contract.
The good part about the phone is it is MUCH faster and responsive than the Intercept and Optimus. Much better camera (has a flash - FINALLY!) and HD video. Front facing camera is nice to have but of course weaksauce in the resolution dept. Overall A+ for effort, D- in execution.

kneel said:
I have waited months to post my reviews. I had a Virgin Mobile Intercept and upgraded to this the day after it came out.
Battery life is HORRENDOUS. Not sure how anyone can possibly say its "OK". Sure if you are sitting at home or in the office all day, You can continually have it plugged in and charged. My lighter socket doesn't work in my car ATM so thank GOD I don't drive a lot, and for long periods, I would be SCREWED.
Essentially yes if you turn off GPS, Wi-Fi, Syncing your emails and such, etc etc, then your battery will last longer. But what good is the phone then? I have owned many other androids and they worked for almost a full day with moderate usage with ALL of those things turned on and sync'ing (including Latitude and automatic check-ins). I have lost all of that. I have google talk catching up for hours-old conversations whenever I hit a wifi spot that's saved in my phone.
Juice Defender was my "solution" But it has rendered my phone practically useless for anything besides just having a phone handy when needed. No apps, no moe use of all the bells and whistles that I loved about android in the first place!
I am dealing with it. It just sucks. Sure there are other smartphones with similar issues, and poor battery life, but this has to be possibly the worst or one of the worst. It just is highly unfortunate that this is the case.
Also: Bluetooth syncing works 50% of the time. Constantly have to turn it off and on to get my jawbone(s) to sync. God forbid you answer a call and want to switch over to bluetooth. In those cases it works about 20% of the time.
This is not a good phone for people who are out and about all day or drivers of any sort, unless you have it plugged in the entire day. Forget about using it as a GPS unless its plugged in either, that will drain you battery to 0% in less than an hour.
People say this is due to poor design and rushed to market with crappy signal reception and GPS reception, same with bluetooth antennae. This might be the case, I ALSO have mine suddenly have NO BARS for no reason and I have to power off and on the phone to get a signal back.
ALSO half the time I am out and about and need data connection over 3G, even with bars I get NOTHING. It's very frustrating not to be able to use the phone for what I want to use it for.
I will be getting rid of this puppy as soon as possible and I would do it sooner if I didn't want to avoid a 2year contract.
The good part about the phone is it is MUCH faster and responsive than the Intercept and Optimus. Much better camera (has a flash - FINALLY!) and HD video. Front facing camera is nice to have but of course weaksauce in the resolution dept. Overall A+ for effort, D- in execution.
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This post is harsh. But I agree with most of it. Overall, the Triumph fits with a prepaid phone reputation: niggly bugs, poor battery life, poor service quality when compared to a higher end device.
The main problem here is that you'll be totally dependent on the community for real bug fixes. Every phone has bugs. But the bugs on the Triumph affect core usability and are on a totally different level. I would not count on Motorola to fix these bugs. If you're the tinkering type and a patient person, this may be worth it. But anyone who thinks that they are getting "something for free" is sadly mistaken. You are paying $25 a month for cell phone service, which is great . But all these bugs will make you pay with your time. How? Time looking for new roms, apps to fix bad battery life, time wondering why the touchscreen response is poor, time working around the bugs in every day life. If that is fun to you (and it may be for most people on this forum), fine. But you are paying with your time. Lesson learned is not to be so quick to fall for the specs. The company offering the phone and their track record of pushing out updates should play a large part in my decision next time.

I usually have WiFi turned on all day, and sync. I use the phone on my breaks and at lunch. When I get home I troll forums heavily and watch netflix occasionally. Not to mention Pandora for at least an hour per day. The battery will last if I dont plug it in until the next morning. Bottom line is that a lot of these issues can be fixed with quality software, and a battery cycle of 18-24 hours is something I can definitly live with. Compared to my Ascend, the Triumph is soooo much better in battery dept.
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I am not sure why a lot of people have issues with battery, I unplugged my phone over 7 hrs ago and right now have 57% battery left, now before you hang your head at this look at my usage:
-Over 1 hour of talktime out of 7 hours.
-50+ texts back and forth
-10+ emails back and forth
-5-10 youtube videos
-5-10 pages of web browsing
-dl and install apps
-facebook at least 2-3 times every hour
And some more fiddling around so basically I have been on the phone non stop for 7 hours and its lost only 43%
That said, most of that usage came from the first 4 hours where it lost 36%(1+ hour of talktime, youtube videos im not really shocked there)
6th hour i texted and browsed etc only 5% battery used.
7th hour I just sent back and forth a couple of texts and only 2% battery used.
All this when i dont use any applications like task killers etc..i just let them run the way they want. Also no wifi, everything over 3g.
so imo if it gives that kind of battery its good enough for me. I was really scared when i bought cuz people were complaining so much about its battery but im fairly surprised. One factor that could be though is that I am not running the GPS, no need for it yet, when I do ill update what kind of usage i got.

I get 23 hours battery life with HEAVY usage and 30 if mostly idle. Many may disagree but if you live or work in a Wifi zone, keeping wifi on and setting it to never sleep greatly INCREASES battery life. 3G radio uses more juice especially if low signal or always searching. If you click on Battery Use and see your "time without a signal" is anything over 20% then you will most certainly see increase on battery life if you leave wifi locked on while in a wifi zone.
Also, side note: I have a 1500mah Anker battery that also increases juice time I recommend it!
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23 hrs with heavy usage? Unless yours came with a 2300ma battery and not the paltry 1380ma battery, there's NO WAY you're getting 23 hours under heave usage.

I'm using a 1500mah calibrated battery and yep, its true I leave wifi on and set to never sleep when I'm at home or work. If not, 3G absolutely murders my battery. My phone drops between 3% and 5% per hour.
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Well today I am having less luck with battery life. I watched two movies on Netflix and constant Facebook. I unplugged at 10:30am and it is now 4:48pm and I am at 52%.. still using 1500mah battery.
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I just came from a Samsung Epic 4G. I have to say battery life it at least the same but probably better on the Triumph. The battery is also quicker to swap out on the Triumph. Between the already better battery life and ability to quickly swap, I'm more than happy.

garrmack said:
I just came from a Samsung Epic 4G. I have to say battery life it at least the same but probably better on the Triumph. The battery is also quicker to swap out on the Triumph. Between the already better battery life and ability to quickly swap, I'm more than happy.
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As horrible as the Triumph batt life is then I'd hate to think how bad the Epic 4g's life was...wow!

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