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I have just been following all the developments with the Bluetoth Stack Problems etc, after actually I had Ordered the Holux BT GPS Receiver.
I am still awaiting delivery, but after reading the last thread under GPS/Bluetooth got a bot dissappointed as a lot of people seem to have problems with the Reception.
I actually did some research before ordering and the reviews were promising. So in real life, what are the problems with the actual GPS itsself and how is the reception?
Even though I haven't tried Towas BT Fix, but I must congratulate as it seems very impressive the job he has done. I have downloaded all is required in terms of software fixes.
Please share your experiences with the Holux BT GPS and if anyone likes to do a preview perhaps?
I've already posted my comments in another thread but to summarise - it doesn't work ver well at all. I've used a Navman/iPaq combo - worked quite well, a Nokia LAM1/9210 - worked surprisingly well too, then a CF GPS in an Axim - worked extremely well, then this Holux device with an XDA II - the worst so far, by far. I'm assuming that the problem isn't with the XDA II as it uses a 400 mhz xScale 263 cpu which should be more than sufficient. I had read that these things would pick up a decent signal from within a rucksack or pocket, and indoors from a few feet from a window, but not in my case.
I can't wait to see what other peoples experiences are.
Ged.
How did you get the holux to work with xda2, I am having no luck with it.
I just installed towas patch, when I chose the holux it allowed me to assign a serial port "com4 chosen" this then appeared under gps in tomtom, works great and the headset works at same time, it did prevent me synching via bluetooth which was working fine before, but that is no hardship as I am unlikely to be synching by bluetooth while running tomtom.
P.s. I tried changing com ports for the gps but it didnt help so I removed my bluetooth desktop pc bluetooth profile, went to settings/bluetooth, told it to sync by bluetooth, it searched for and found my pc bluetooth dongle, when I click finish Towas patch pops up, I selected activesync and it now all works, the guys a genius with programming.
Got my Holux working too
Even though I was very nervous about the Holux, it has proved for me working very well, but it did take a bit to get things working.
At first, I removed all bluetooth devices, then installed Towas' Patch and then added the BT Devices (Holux + HBH-65). The HBH-65 worked well all the time, but once I loaded the Holux supplied software GPSviewer, it kept crashing and froze or it automatically kept rebooting. Tried all different ports but no success.
Finally, I had to Hard-Reset the XDA2 and then first install Towas's BT Patch before pairing any devices or installing any applications. Then I tried some third party software and finally Mapopolis and saw it working perfectly (COM 5, 9600). For some reason, GPSviewer is not compatible with either the XDA2 or Towas's Patch at any setting.
The Positioning is very good and usually have 8 sats locked out of 10 visible. I saw the device to be very accurate, perhaps to about 1-2 metres on Mapopolis. I even get around 3-4 Sats locked when I am indoors (thats either on the top floor or near a window. First time to fix is always around 30secs and hotstart seems immediate to me. The only matter which has got to me was that while driving, the positioning seemed to be lagging behind and Mapopolis came up with streets which just passed. I am also quite pissed off with the male voice of mapopolis as it sounds awful. I have now ordered TomTom V.2 and will keep u guys posted how that goes.
PS: The BT Handset works well at the same time as the GPS, but still missing the Handsfree BT Profile.
Anyone any update about O2 (UK) ROM Update?
I found no lag with Tomtom2, it was on the button and extremely accurate, does anybody know if the battery can be swapped out of this unit in the event of a failure once warrany is out?
I would think so. I took mine apart to see what was inside and it's very similar to one that you'd find in a cordless phone. Nothing special really and there are lots of companies out there that supply custom or specialist batteries.
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I have just been following all the developments with the Bluetoth Stack Problems etc
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i take it ur talking about the prolems "when you change the baud rate on the GR-230, it would lose communication via Bluetooth"?
if so the review on pocketgps.co.uk for the unit is quite good. its available @
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/holuxgr230.php
but it explains that its a firmware prob with units shipped B4 Dec 03, which can B fixed.
Hope this helps. ive just ordered 1 myself, £95 off ebay, will do nicely if it works, i shall let ya'll know.
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Hi....new user
Just got XDA2 set in post as a company phone...great.
Acouple of things:
Can I use TomTom3 via the Bluetooth link...Ive been told its "iffY"?
Im using a Motorola BT car kit at the moment, will the XDA pair with it. Reason I ask is that my brother is a SKY engineer and they all have the above but they refuse to pair automatically.
Finally, is there a cradle especially for the XDA2 with a wired charger?
Ta
Graham
Hello Graham
I'm a newbie myself but trying to learn fast, I don't think the xda will pair-up with the motorola. Have a look at this website, I think its a great website they really help me when I first had my xda. The address is www.eXpansys.com. You will fine everything you need for your xda II
Thx
M8.
As long as you're XDAII is running the v1.60 ROM or later it'll work fine with a BT GPS. If it's running an older ROM you can d/l the update from www.my-xda.com and flash it to improve the BT Stack.
The best cradle IMHO is the Carcomm CDAII Cradle, see here. They're available in the UK from TotalPDA.
TT3 and XDA2 work faultlessley for me
Xda II & gps kit
can someone reccommend some mapping software which offers some decent & relatively detailed coverage of Northern Ireland.
Nothing I have looked at so far, inc "pocket streets" has even A class roads included outside Belfast city centre.
not a lot of use to me and many other people like me.
Thats what is holding my gps purchase back. well that and finding a good reason to justify my buying one.
TOMTOM works fine for me too. The only problem is that it doesnt show the names of the streets you are driving past. A car navigatin system does do that.
tomtom bluetooth
I've had my xdaII and tomtom 3 with Blue tooth reciever for 6months.. NO problems. works fine.
TomTom & GPS
Just thought I would add my thoughts as I have been a user of GPS and PDA's for sometime now.
I currently use a Garmin Etrex Vista connected via a cable to an Ipaq (This will be changing to my new XDA2 as soon as the lead arrives).
I have no real problems using Tom Tom software (but it does require a soft reset occasionally). You can view streetnames whilst driving if you go to the map view (not the navigator view).
This setup option is the most expensive using a PDA but gives the most versatility if you want to use your GPS to do other activities using the equipment ie boating, biking, or walking, when talking the PDA may not be suitable.
Consider the kits available on Ebay for around £125 that include a suction mount (vent mounts break your car) the power and connection cable and the software.
I also use Memory Map Navigator which is very detailed Mapping Software using Ordnance Survey Maps. The software is expensive, but if you really do have a use for it (or just love digital maps) it is very good.
Hi guys
Does anyone know where I can find antennas to fit my TomTom & Rikaline 6030 BT receivers? I've looked everywhere with no luck, only found the re-radiating type. Both seem to have the same connector, tried Maplins etc. Any ideas? :roll:
Thanks!
http://www.globalpositioningsystems...66&PHPSESSID=6caf78405a8bd59ea55c4e7117127019
try this. Also on the page you will see "online buying advice", they will sort it for you I am sure.
And for the TOMTOM Bluetooth try here but why do you need an external antenna, can't you locate the receiver where it can get reception?
Diolch! (Thanks)
Cruisin' & Griffog,
Thanks guys, marvellous. the reason I need to, at least, try one of these is that I drive a double-decker sleeper bus. I run 2 systems, my XDA II with BT TomTom3 (or TomTom Routeplanner in E.Europe) with receiver in top window, and my laptop running Autoroute 2004 (or Autoroute 2001 in E. Europe) using a Rikaline 6030 BT receiver (also in top window).
But there are frequently times when I lose signal due to tree cover & in urban canyons. as both units appear to have the same connector, I want to get an extension to try it out on both units. The other alternative is a re-radiating antenna. Not sure what would happen if a re-radiating antenna was beaming to two seperate GPS systems simultaneously though. What do you reckon?
Ah, I see your problem now. A re-rad will happily drive two receivers, it does exactly as it suggests and re-radiates the GPS signal so there is no problem in your set-up.
I'd go for one of the high power versions given you'll be using it in a commercial vehicle, e.g. the RRAD-46 as this should provide you with better results and will drive the two systems.
Oh and I hail from Llandudno so LlanfairPG isn't too far away!!
Diolch eto! (thanks again)
Sut mae Griffog
Yep! that seems the perfect solution, unfortunately can't get delivery other than to my address on my card (same with expansys) and I won't be there to receive it. i.e. they won't allow a different shipping address.
Dyna fel y mae e! :? Do you know of another firm?
GloPos (Global Positioning Systems) have the same unit in stock, no idea if they have the same conditions for sale though, see here.
Pob lwc
I have a brand new quality re-radiating system here, its brand new and consists of SM-66 gps antenna, ra-46 re-radiating antenna and cigarette lighter plug power adaptor, I want £40 for it (saves you £15) if anybody interested. Made by San Jose systems. It will feed unlimited systems as the signal is usable by all receivers in vicinity.
I was on a motorway in wales and kept seeing signposts giving miles to this certain place, I was a little puzzled when it changed from 1 mile to destination to 30 miles to destination, this happened more than once, it wasnt until I was told the meaning of the word that I realised that it wasnt a welsh village that kept moving...its name....Gwasenathu (spelling?)
Close, it's 'Gwasanaethau' and to the uninititated that means 'Services'! Much the same as 'Ausfahrt' on German autobahns
Gwasaneuthau
Yup!
Correct on the translation of motorway services in Welsh, but, incorrect on the German Autobahn bit,
Ausfahrt means exit.
Rasthof is services
Autohof is a truckstop (usually just off the Autobahn and with better facilities and cheaper more substantial meals than in the Rasthofs)
Now what's the Welsh & German for GPS antennas?............ 8)
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Chop! said:
Yup!
Correct on the translation of motorway services in Welsh, but, incorrect on the German Autobahn bit,
Ausfahrt means exit.
Rasthof is services
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Sorry, didn't explain myself very well there, I didn't mean that Ausfahrt was German for Services, I was referring to the post about there being lost of signs to 'Gwasanaethau' and the old joke about a tourist driving along the German Autobahn and saying 'that Ausfahrt place is big, been signs for it for the last 100 miles!' :wink:
Ah ah alles clar!
Sorry Griffog ychan!
Didn't twig to that train of thought! Duh! :wink: I've sent for the re-rad that you suggested. Did a post in Welsh thanking you but I was either too pissed or it got zapped! Considering that these XDA IIs have been around a while it is unbelievable that you can't even get a std battery for one, just wasted a few days chasing a second hand one on e-bay which went for more than new price! And as usual with O2 they are a light year behind our European friends where accessories are available from virtually day one! :twisted: Oops ranting again, sorry!
So there are more than enough problems with internal GPS for several devices. The Fuze obviously, im sure the Diamond, and my friend and his Tilt. Basically we have to go through all these steps just to get it to work properly. So i was thinking a suit may get them to fix the problem with it.
I am absolutely certain it is regarding the internal GPS and not the anything else in the phone, because if it takes too long to find a fix i just use my BT Holux 236 Slim instead of waiting and it finds it well lets just say IMMEDIATELY lol.
I had an old toshiba WM device with pharos add on gps. It took like 5-6 mins to lock.
I can do a morning gps fix with my fuze in about 30 seconds. No AGPS, but I do download the quickgps info. It's good enough for me.
does AGPs actually slow it down? i thought that would make it faster
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does AGPs actually slow it down? i thought that would make it faster
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AGPS + IPHONE + 3G = FAIL.
It's not just Raphael here. If you google that, there's lots of suggestions to switch to Edge, then use the GPS, then get back on 3G.
I have a Fuze and my GPS is working fine. I initially had issues getting a lock and I had to use HTC GPS Tool... only once. After that I get a lock within 1 minute if that much when using TomTom.
I am also using 3G/HSUPA. I do have AGPS turned off and I have QuickGPS configured to download updates automatically. Once other change I made was to the "External GPS" in the System settings - I changed the COM port to 1 and speed to 38400. I tested both with COM 1 and COM 4 and it didn't made much of a difference.
I have also flashed a few different ROMs and GPS works on all of them, including AT&T stock ROM.
I don't think HTC cares about Class Action Suits.
No they don't care about class action lawsuits, because we keep buying their phones I get consistent 30 second GPS locks on my fuze.
I dunno, maybe i'm just lucky but even when the Blackjack 2 came out and people were having GPS issues (and needing the Modaco GPS unlocker Cab) i never needed such things. Maybe i'm more technical and can find root of problems easily that i don't even notice i'm doing it. I don't think that's the case though, i downloaded WLS and Google Maps and configure them both properly. I knew about the intermediate driver but the current version of Google Maps didn't have support for that yet but it came out a week later and that's when it finally started working right.
I noticed there was a note about GPS concerning the Fuze so i dug into it and knew i had to use COM4 for GPS instead of the standard intermediate driver (Garmin Mobile auto configed itself to the right COM). I don't get any lag or issues, it also uses aGPS if it's enabled, my phone automatically logs on when i open it.
I have alltel TOuch Pro and my gps locks in in like 4 seconds never more than 10
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I have alltel TOuch Pro and my gps locks in in like 4 seconds never more than 10
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I have the Touch Pro as well but on Sprint, I've experienced the same.
hey guys,
what do u think about appear and disappear problem?
i mean that, my tp finds alot of satellites but two of them appears the others disappears, then they appear the others disappear.
And finaly poor reception and i.e.my car speed like "100" km but tp "0" km speed and too much lag.
I ve tried everything at this forum except roms.I couldnt have any solution.
I send 3-4 e-mail to htc support team and they turned me back with silly answers without solution.
Now i cant use my internal gps that i paid like 900$ tp.I think this will be my last htc.
The GPS issues I was having with my Fuze ultimately led to it's return.
The GPS performance was just too volatile and I need to be able to depend on it when I need it.
GL
Before you fight the power, might want to research the issue better. I believe all the people who say there are problems with their GPS, but it has to be related to particular batch/devices.
I have no issues with GPS. I run iGO8 on my Fuze, it connects very quickly, AGPS enabled. Accuracy is awesome, better than on Tilt it'd seem. So no complaints here.
So before we sue someone, somebody should compare the devices and find what is it that makes the GPS work on some and not work on others.
Just my opinion.
My GPS works great. I get a fix in around 30 seconds, and when I do, I can leave it in front of the gear stick on my car, because I still didn't buy a windshield holder, and it works just fine.
It works much better than a dedicated Bluetooth GPS I used in the past.
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Before you fight the power, might want to research the issue better. I believe all the people who say there are problems with their GPS, but it has to be related to particular batch/devices.
I have no issues with GPS. I run iGO8 on my Fuze, it connects very quickly, AGPS enabled. Accuracy is awesome, better than on Tilt it'd seem. So no complaints here.
So before we sue someone, somebody should compare the devices and find what is it that makes the GPS work on some and not work on others.
Just my opinion.
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Interesting...I never usa AGPS, it always seems to mess my phone up. I do the automatic GPS download and I get a lock within 30 sec.
Obviously the people posting think since theres work than its not an issue. There are plenty of threads in the diamond, raphael, and tilt forums regarding GPS issues.
The only reason i brought the suit idea in was because it has done before and HTC then provided the drivers. I dont want any money from them, i just want my GPS to work well. I am pretty sure nobody else wants to return their phone they just a WELL working GPS.
I have no problems with GPS lock on my Fuze. I had initial issues, but after I ran the GPS Test and got a fix - one time - I was all set.
Besides, whom do you sue? HTC or the operators who are motivated to cripple GPS or tie it exclusively to their fee-for-service plan?
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Obviously the people posting think since theres work than its not an issue. There are plenty of threads in the diamond, raphael, and tilt forums regarding GPS issues.
The only reason i brought the suit idea in was because it has done before and HTC then provided the drivers. I dont want any money from them, i just want my GPS to work well. I am pretty sure nobody else wants to return their phone they just a WELL working GPS.
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Drivers are one thing.
A class action suit is something else.
I'm all for speedier, but I just did a test here.
HARD RESET
Bloat remove
Install a few apps, sync phone to restore contacts.
Disable AGPS, download QuickGPS.
Launched google maps for the first time. It took about 40 seconds to lock on 8 satellites inside my house. I don't get this good with my other dedicated gps devices, they usually take 2-5 mins to lock on to 5.
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I'm all for speedier! But I rather like how fast the GPS set works in this phone, even after a hard reset. Maybe it's ATT software that does something on the configurator load on a hard reset?
The new rom from Da_G uses gps drivers from the blackstone and for the first time since i bought the phone (since day 1) i get consistent, fast gps locks. With these drivers i consider the problem solved. Now..to get other cooks to include them as they have to be cooked in.
I have only had mine for about a week now and not really any issues with GPS. I would load up tom tom and configure it before i leave, and before i make it off my porch i have at least 3 sats locked, and by the time im in my car its ready to roll. I have only used it for short trips so far (15-30 minutes) and have not experienced the heat up issues i have read about, or the GPS lag. Time will tell i guess.
I am using a Sprint Touch Pro with a 16GB MicroSD. The following is a list a problems that I have. Just wondering if anyone has found fixes/workarounds.
1. If I try to sync using ActiveSync 4.5 while I have the MicroSD card installed, ActiveSync hangs when it gets to the "Looking for Changes" step. If I sync without the card installed, it works fine. Not sure what is going on.
2. Can't log in to Windows Live Messenger from Windows Live Mobile. A search shows that others are having this problem as well. Has anyone found a solution?
3. Numerous problems with the latest version of Windows Search Live (Won't find addresses, Locate Me is grayed out, auto-suggest won't work, map font size WAY too small). Probably bugs. I wish I could re-install the old version. I really miss this app.
So many really-annoying software-related issues! Otherwise, great device!
4. very slow GPS respond.
5. tomtom6, screen switch off while in call, GPS signal gone. (testing Garmin, wishing luck).
6. that damn d pad
7. battery life of course
8. unmapable buttons
perhaps a faulty sd card? Or you sync alot of things and it maybe taking a very long time.
i had the windows live messenger issue. Said no connection or in a bad location even though i was able to use the internet on my phone. so not sure what was wrong with then i flashed to latest ProVEN rom and all is good
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perhaps a faulty sd card? Or you sync alot of things and it maybe taking a very long time.
i had the windows live messenger issue. Said no connection or in a bad location even though i was able to use the internet on my phone. so not sure what was wrong with then i flashed to latest ProVEN rom and all is good
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Actually the SD card seems to work just fine otherwise, so I don't think its a bad card.
I had no problem syncing right after my last hard reset even with the card installed. It wasn't until after a few days that the sync problem crept in, so I am assuming that some of the software I installed created the issue. From my searching, I have found that others have seen this same problem, but, so far, no fixes.
The Windows Live Messenger issue is usually a "Server Error." From what I have seen, quite a few other people are having the same issue. I am using the stock, Sprint ROM.
my idea to the horrible D-Pad.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473023
Just need someone to develop it.
I had my first look at the Touch Pro and Fuze today. The Touch Pro was in rough shape - when the keyboard was open the touch screen portion was rather jiggly. When asked, the Sprint salesman said it was a demo and roughly handled. But I doubt it's the most handled phone in the store and it got me wondering about the long-term durability of the Fuze.
1. How has your Fuze held up physically so far?
2. The AT&T salesman said the problem return rates on their wi-fi phones are as follows:
Fuze - 15-20%
Blackberry Bold - 1-2%
Samsung Epix - 0% (store has never had one returned)
(The salesman was pushing me towards the Blackberry))
Would you agree or disagree with these stats based on your experiences with cell phones?
Thanks in advnace for your input. I've learned a great deal on this forum by reading the threads!
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1. If I try to sync using ActiveSync 4.5 while I have the MicroSD card installed, ActiveSync hangs when it gets to the "Looking for Changes" step. If I sync without the card installed, it works fine. Not sure what is going on.
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Try this, Go settings, connections, usb to pc and untick the box "enable advanced network functionality.
9) No option to manaully change audio routing (headphone on/off or bluetooth).
the Windows Live problems are specific to the Windows Live app, not the TP specifically. I'd suggest complaining to M$ about it
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I had my first look at the Touch Pro and Fuze today. The Touch Pro was in rough shape - when the keyboard was open the touch screen portion was rather jiggly. When asked, the Sprint salesman said it was a demo and roughly handled. But I doubt it's the most handled phone in the store and it got me wondering about the long-term durability of the Fuze.
1. How has your Fuze held up physically so far?
2. The AT&T salesman said the problem return rates on their wi-fi phones are as follows:
Fuze - 15-20%
Blackberry Bold - 1-2%
Samsung Epix - 0% (store has never had one returned)
(The salesman was pushing me towards the Blackberry))
Would you agree or disagree with these stats based on your experiences with cell phones?
Thanks in advnace for your input. I've learned a great deal on this forum by reading the threads!
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almost all windows mobile phones either give problem from the start or will give problems later, my g/f mogal just died on her after 1 yr of use sent it under the "carrier warranty" and got back a Sprint Touch Pro and a few weeks from after getting now she cant get txt message only send.
she carry the touch pro into sprint to get it repair before work around 10am i think and returned after work to discover her phone not fix yet then when the lady finally came back, told her that they couldnt fix it and she will have to pay $$ to get it replace on the spot or send it back through the warranty company that she got the phone from *mind u she had sprint warranty but apperently they use a 3rd party company*
so now she is once again stuck without a phone
personally i have said this before and i will say it again, WINDOWS MOBILE SUCKS ASS
if apple was so into locking down the iphone and it had a keyboard would of been the perfect phone of my dreams.
to bad i guess there is nothing remotely close to the iphone