So there are more than enough problems with internal GPS for several devices. The Fuze obviously, im sure the Diamond, and my friend and his Tilt. Basically we have to go through all these steps just to get it to work properly. So i was thinking a suit may get them to fix the problem with it.
I am absolutely certain it is regarding the internal GPS and not the anything else in the phone, because if it takes too long to find a fix i just use my BT Holux 236 Slim instead of waiting and it finds it well lets just say IMMEDIATELY lol.
I had an old toshiba WM device with pharos add on gps. It took like 5-6 mins to lock.
I can do a morning gps fix with my fuze in about 30 seconds. No AGPS, but I do download the quickgps info. It's good enough for me.
does AGPs actually slow it down? i thought that would make it faster
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does AGPs actually slow it down? i thought that would make it faster
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AGPS + IPHONE + 3G = FAIL.
It's not just Raphael here. If you google that, there's lots of suggestions to switch to Edge, then use the GPS, then get back on 3G.
I have a Fuze and my GPS is working fine. I initially had issues getting a lock and I had to use HTC GPS Tool... only once. After that I get a lock within 1 minute if that much when using TomTom.
I am also using 3G/HSUPA. I do have AGPS turned off and I have QuickGPS configured to download updates automatically. Once other change I made was to the "External GPS" in the System settings - I changed the COM port to 1 and speed to 38400. I tested both with COM 1 and COM 4 and it didn't made much of a difference.
I have also flashed a few different ROMs and GPS works on all of them, including AT&T stock ROM.
I don't think HTC cares about Class Action Suits.
No they don't care about class action lawsuits, because we keep buying their phones I get consistent 30 second GPS locks on my fuze.
I dunno, maybe i'm just lucky but even when the Blackjack 2 came out and people were having GPS issues (and needing the Modaco GPS unlocker Cab) i never needed such things. Maybe i'm more technical and can find root of problems easily that i don't even notice i'm doing it. I don't think that's the case though, i downloaded WLS and Google Maps and configure them both properly. I knew about the intermediate driver but the current version of Google Maps didn't have support for that yet but it came out a week later and that's when it finally started working right.
I noticed there was a note about GPS concerning the Fuze so i dug into it and knew i had to use COM4 for GPS instead of the standard intermediate driver (Garmin Mobile auto configed itself to the right COM). I don't get any lag or issues, it also uses aGPS if it's enabled, my phone automatically logs on when i open it.
I have alltel TOuch Pro and my gps locks in in like 4 seconds never more than 10
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I have alltel TOuch Pro and my gps locks in in like 4 seconds never more than 10
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I have the Touch Pro as well but on Sprint, I've experienced the same.
hey guys,
what do u think about appear and disappear problem?
i mean that, my tp finds alot of satellites but two of them appears the others disappears, then they appear the others disappear.
And finaly poor reception and i.e.my car speed like "100" km but tp "0" km speed and too much lag.
I ve tried everything at this forum except roms.I couldnt have any solution.
I send 3-4 e-mail to htc support team and they turned me back with silly answers without solution.
Now i cant use my internal gps that i paid like 900$ tp.I think this will be my last htc.
The GPS issues I was having with my Fuze ultimately led to it's return.
The GPS performance was just too volatile and I need to be able to depend on it when I need it.
GL
Before you fight the power, might want to research the issue better. I believe all the people who say there are problems with their GPS, but it has to be related to particular batch/devices.
I have no issues with GPS. I run iGO8 on my Fuze, it connects very quickly, AGPS enabled. Accuracy is awesome, better than on Tilt it'd seem. So no complaints here.
So before we sue someone, somebody should compare the devices and find what is it that makes the GPS work on some and not work on others.
Just my opinion.
My GPS works great. I get a fix in around 30 seconds, and when I do, I can leave it in front of the gear stick on my car, because I still didn't buy a windshield holder, and it works just fine.
It works much better than a dedicated Bluetooth GPS I used in the past.
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Before you fight the power, might want to research the issue better. I believe all the people who say there are problems with their GPS, but it has to be related to particular batch/devices.
I have no issues with GPS. I run iGO8 on my Fuze, it connects very quickly, AGPS enabled. Accuracy is awesome, better than on Tilt it'd seem. So no complaints here.
So before we sue someone, somebody should compare the devices and find what is it that makes the GPS work on some and not work on others.
Just my opinion.
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Interesting...I never usa AGPS, it always seems to mess my phone up. I do the automatic GPS download and I get a lock within 30 sec.
Obviously the people posting think since theres work than its not an issue. There are plenty of threads in the diamond, raphael, and tilt forums regarding GPS issues.
The only reason i brought the suit idea in was because it has done before and HTC then provided the drivers. I dont want any money from them, i just want my GPS to work well. I am pretty sure nobody else wants to return their phone they just a WELL working GPS.
I have no problems with GPS lock on my Fuze. I had initial issues, but after I ran the GPS Test and got a fix - one time - I was all set.
Besides, whom do you sue? HTC or the operators who are motivated to cripple GPS or tie it exclusively to their fee-for-service plan?
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Obviously the people posting think since theres work than its not an issue. There are plenty of threads in the diamond, raphael, and tilt forums regarding GPS issues.
The only reason i brought the suit idea in was because it has done before and HTC then provided the drivers. I dont want any money from them, i just want my GPS to work well. I am pretty sure nobody else wants to return their phone they just a WELL working GPS.
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Drivers are one thing.
A class action suit is something else.
I'm all for speedier, but I just did a test here.
HARD RESET
Bloat remove
Install a few apps, sync phone to restore contacts.
Disable AGPS, download QuickGPS.
Launched google maps for the first time. It took about 40 seconds to lock on 8 satellites inside my house. I don't get this good with my other dedicated gps devices, they usually take 2-5 mins to lock on to 5.
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I'm all for speedier! But I rather like how fast the GPS set works in this phone, even after a hard reset. Maybe it's ATT software that does something on the configurator load on a hard reset?
The new rom from Da_G uses gps drivers from the blackstone and for the first time since i bought the phone (since day 1) i get consistent, fast gps locks. With these drivers i consider the problem solved. Now..to get other cooks to include them as they have to be cooked in.
I have only had mine for about a week now and not really any issues with GPS. I would load up tom tom and configure it before i leave, and before i make it off my porch i have at least 3 sats locked, and by the time im in my car its ready to roll. I have only used it for short trips so far (15-30 minutes) and have not experienced the heat up issues i have read about, or the GPS lag. Time will tell i guess.
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HI
for me the most important function is gps, but from all of the answers here I cannot make any conclusions. Some say big lag, 20min to get a fix, others almost no lag a all, instant fix.
If someone used the kaiser can you please compare it with raphael, (kaiser was ok for me,not great but..) so I can decide if I will part with the 1000$ sitting on my desk? )
Is there a program that offers some hard evidence on the gps troubles, so I can compare it to other devices?
How long does the battery last when using gps igo or garmin mobile?
Thanx very much
20min to get a fix? It's joke ? Yesterday I've tested GPS very hard (Nav iGo8 soft) and it takes no more than 1min to get a fix. I've made some tests before (just simple test by walking around the steets) and never have had fix delay longer than 2min.
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B.
I get a fix in less than 30 seconds, using destinator and garmin xt
Hi,
I use Google maps and Nav4All. With Nav4All it takes very long to get a fix. What I do is I start Google Maps, wait till I get a GPS fix (10 seconds?). Turn of Google Maps and start Nav4All.
So my gues is, that it's not the Touch Pro, but the software. I also had this with my old Mio TomTom could take forever and an old unknow AND Navigator worked almost inmediatly.
BTW, I have the Assisted GPS turned on
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AJ
Hi,
something with gps(hardware or software) in Raphael is wrong. When I compared it with Kaiser, same software one each other in the car, raphael have lag(delay) 5-15sec. When I stop the car Kaiser display 0km after 2 max(rarely) 3 transition of speed display, Raphael has much more 5-15. While driving, arows is most of time behind the car(Kaiser) and sometimes in front of car on the route.
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Pajaa
Used mine in the car the otherday for the first time. Got a fix in about 30 seconds and there wasn't any noticable lag.
Using TomTom 6.
I use Garmin mobile. I get 6 satellites in less than a minute. The arrow is a little behind on the map, but less than 200 feet.
thanks for the reply on the fix, but what worries me is mostly the gps lag, and battery life. any info on that?
thanx people
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20min to get a fix? It's joke ? Yesterday I've tested GPS very hard (Nav iGo8 soft) and it takes no more than 1min to get a fix. I've made some tests before (just simple test by walking around the steets) and never have had fix delay longer than 2min.
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B.
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mine takes much longer but i don't mind that as much as I mind the fact it drops the connection if I donut have the phone up in my window in the car where my Kaiser would stay connected anywhere
I had TyTN II(still have) but after I got the Touch Pro I found that the TP took a much longer time to get a fix(if at all). This is quite unexpected so I hope a newer ROM will fix this.
Hi,
something interesting for us with gps lag
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2628634&postcount=306
Regards
I've tested my pro yesterday with tomtom 7..
I had my fix in like 2 minutes...but I runned first the quickgps.
The speed of the first fix depends very much on three conditions:
1st) when was your last fix. if that was longer ago than a couple of days the sat-position-data is outdated.
2nd) how much sky you can see (f.e. between high buildings is not optimal)
and 3rd) the weather. With clear sky the gps-signal is stronger than on a cloudy day.
But you can increase the first fix very much by using the "QuickGPS" application included in the original ROM. With this tool you can eliminate point one.
installed TomTom yesterday (version 7)
downloaded a city map.
and tested it last nicht.
fix within 30seconds indoors. (started the app to plan the way home from work)
during the drive home, i had no lag or wath ever..
worked like a charme for me.
igo8 fix less than 15 seconds but has lag. not much but noticeable more than tytn2.
i had a tytn2 before the touch pro...
also tytn2 i could see 7-8 sattelites, even 9 but with touch pro, never more than 5, usually 3-4.
bit disappointing...
also my igo8 crashes with "out of memory" error when i zoom out and pan the map, i have buildings and geographic details installed on it.
but i guess thats just because of igo8 on vga
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I had TyTN II(still have) but after I got the Touch Pro I found that the TP took a much longer time to get a fix(if at all). This is quite unexpected so I hope a newer ROM will fix this.
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Perhaps more like new Radio ROMs might help
I rather use iGo8, but I hate the lag. Hope the HTC fix is out soon.
Vinh
Mine normally takes about 2 mins using TT7, which is significantly longer than my TyTn II would normally take. Lag is about the same (in fact slightly less) than on the TyTn II.
The weird thing is that if you look in the GPS config in TT7, it can be seeing 10+ satellites and still not reporting a lock. That has to be a software problem doesn't it?
When mine does lock, it always has a signal strength of 4+ bars - makes me wonder if there is something in the software that could be tweaked to make it report a lock faster (using less satellites), but with initially slightly less accuracy. That would be fine with me!
Rowan
I use the GPS and Mapking, without aGPS. It get a locked quite fast < 1 min. It manage to get a location a bit after searching a destination. So consider quite good. Almost as fast as my Garmin nuvi.
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Used mine in the car the otherday for the first time. Got a fix in about 30 seconds and there wasn't any noticable lag.
Using TomTom 6.
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Can I ask, how you set the internal gps up in TomTom plz???
or anyone
The Touch Pro is my first Windows Mobile device, and after using Symbian for 5 years I'm finding the going a little rocky so far!
Anyhow, the GPS lag on this thing is terrible - I've tried using it on car journeys and so far it's been pointless as I keep missing turns! Also, the time taken to get a fix is just unacceptable. I used aGPS on my Nokia's to get a fix ijn less than 30 seconds, and have seen the aGPS option in the Advanced Config app - my question is, do I have to do anything other than enable it?
I have noticed no difference to the time taken to get a fix, and it's still crap when I'm moving faster than walking pace.
Also, which GPS app would you guys recommend?
I've tried TomTom 7 so far, and wans't overly impressed - I have to admit Nokia Maps did the job perfectly well on my N82.
First I'd like to say fortunately this will be fixed soon in am official Rom update or cooked radio/rom here.
Most people are finding out not all GPS apps have lag with the Touch pro. For instance Both Google maps and Windows Live search have 0 lag. However they still take a little longer to get a fix than I would like. So it may be more software compatability related than just the Touch pro's fault. Rest assured though an update will be out soon to fix the lag in Tomtom7 and other GPS apps.
Only thing i don't like about google and windows live is that there is no VGA support for the higher screen resolution yet so they are hard to see the street names. I hope there is an update soon or I'll be looking elsewhere so i can clearly see everything on the screen without squenting.
Ah cool, thanks for your answer, it was most helpful.
Well, good news for AT&T customers: The Fuze had none of this. Must be a software issue, because when I had it the lag was next to none using OCN8. Also, finding a fix always took under a minute, even after a soft reset took me 56 seconds when I timed it.
hello i have a touch pro and i think the poor gps fix is not an issue from htc, i guess it's a tomtom thing. when i use tomtom with the touch pro it has usualy around the 2-5 minutes to get a fix, with sygic mcguider installed on my touch pro it's always less then a minute
on both software i download the latest quickgpsfix before starting the programs
someone else tried it with sygic mcguider?
It 's definetely HTC 's fault. I never had issues in GPS fix. But with all tips and teeks installed GPS lag is allways present. I tried most of GPS software floating arround with no luck. Also tweeks are working in some raphaels and some not with same rom installed.
I absolutely agree. I tested several navigation and gps test software. all of them hat the gps issue of the touch pro
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It 's definetely HTC 's fault. I never had issues in GPS fix. But with all tips and teeks installed GPS lag is allways present. I tried most of GPS software floating arround with no luck. Also tweeks are working in some raphaels and some not with same rom installed.
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Actually my TP gets a GPS fix with 6 to 8 sats very fast. The problem is the GPS lag (i.e. If you drive fast you get the directions late), that is a common problem and HTC is actually making a fix for it.
I am using .28 radio and ROMeOS 1.21...
For TomTom, i saw a small fix/tweak that helps (thread is somewhere not to far:
In tom tom: Change Preferences
Show GPS status -> configure
Choose Other NMEA GPS Receiver -> Baud Rate: 38400 on COM4
Maybe its just me but it seems to speed up acquisition time and reduce lag.
I also removed the logging with Avanced Configuration which probably helps some
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I absolutely agree. I tested several navigation and gps test software. all of them hat the gps issue of the touch pro
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did you try the latest Sygic Mcguider v 7.60
within a minute i got every time a fix (my touch pro is one of the first in holland (early august)
No prpblem with TomTom and internal GPS.
Well i just took an hour's trip (30 mins both way) to a friend's place and i had no trouble running TomTom with my Touch Pro's gps. Coming from a phone with a BT external gps it works just fine and dandy. Initial signal fix was less than 4 mins. No more carrying around an external receiver.
Your results are far from beeing decent my friend.
With my P3300 (Artemis) fix was very fast and I never had lag problem.
My TP has same fix time but lag never go away. There is a fix for TomTom (not working in all TP) but it 's not a solution because not everybody uses TomTom. I prefer iGO8.
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Your results are far from beeing decent my friend.
With my P3300 (Artemis) fix was very fast and I never had lag problem.
My TP has same fix time but lag never go away. There is a fix for TomTom (not working in all TP) but it 's not a solution because not everybody uses TomTom. I prefer iGO8.
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What do you mean by TomTom not working in all TP?? Since i got my TouchPro on Sunay, i've been using TomTom almost every day without issue. GPS locks on fast (<3 mins), no lags whatsoever at least for me. TomTom definitely works well on mine.
Well, I dont know. Im really confused by this issue. For every suggested fix there are some who report progress and others not. I am in that probably small group where nothing much has made a big difference (radio, ROM, settings and registry changes). I am using Copilot 7 Diamond edition. My TP still staggers about like a drunk in a nightclub -usually behind my position and bizarrely sometimes ahead. It cant manage corners, and it still comes to an intermittent stop whilst I am bowling along at 70mph. I have noticed that it seems car sensitive though - presumably windscreen type. In my wife's car it is much better than in mine. That might account for some of the variation in reports with the TP. I truly hope that HTC are working on a cab fix otherwise I too will be driving like a drunk for the foreseeable future!
It is confusing. That's true.
Until now I don't have any problems whatsoever with my TomTom 7.450 (Dutch ROM right from the factory, unbranded). I only had 1 or 2 times where my fix took long (> 2min). But most of the time I have a fix within 30 sec with > 6 satelites. I'm still trying everyday to verify that my device behaves at it should. Therefore, I have not tweaked my device until now. I also don't use quickgps.
My lag is small, while walking it is only 10 meters, I think. It very nicely shows I'm walking at 6 km/h, without any problems. Next will be trials in the car when I have my new car mount available.
Hi, I have a TP too, I´m very happy with the gps signal. but not at the begin. The gps signal was better when I change to .31 radio.
I need to deactivate A-Gps feature to get a good gps fix.
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What do you mean by TomTom not working in all TP??
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I mean that the tweek is working on some devices. Also there are people that use iGO8 or Navigon. Problem is not solved if some devices works fine with TomTom.
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Since i got my TouchPro on Sunay, i've been using TomTom almost every day without issue. GPS locks on fast (<3 mins), no lags whatsoever at least for me. TomTom definitely works well on mine.
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GPS lock on <3 mins is not acceptable time. Let 's say you get in your car, start TomTom and wait 2-3 minutes to get a fix?
Mine locks < 1 minute. It was never more than 1 minute even out of the box. But GPS lag is a pain in the @ss.
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I mean that the tweek is working on some devices. Also there are people that use iGO8 or Navigon. Problem is not solved if some devices works fine with TomTom.
GPS lock on <3 mins is not acceptable time. Let 's say you get in your car, start TomTom and wait 2-3 minutes to get a fix?
Mine locks < 1 minute. It was never more than 1 minute even out of the box. But GPS lag is a pain in the @ss.
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So...i'm perfectly fine chilling for a coupla minutes for a gps lock. 2 minutes, i wouldn't split my knickers over. Besides i' usually fiddling with something and adjusting the radio so by the time i'm ready to pull out, John Cleese is also ready for me. I'm okay with it, very satisfied.
Right Ive had my O2 XDA Serra for 3 days now..what can I say but amazing when it works but when it doesn't GOD I want to throw it at somthing. but anyway my issue is with the gps.
It finds the salitlite things and I see the red bars going up and down but I dont get a fix! Its found 12 satilites and nothing!!!! Im using com4 on braodrate 4800 ive tried the other settings but they dont work either.
Ive spoken with O2 and quried them with this fault and they have never herd of it!!!!! Im like WAT! its plastered all over the web!
Anyway is there anyone who can help a guy out?
THanks Andi
How long are you waiting? Having used GPS' now for approx 15 years a unit may have identified a sattelite but it may still take some time for it to lock on. It is not unusual for a unit to see all the sattelites available but still take some time to lock on. Sadly it appears that in the Touch Pro they are using some of the older tech GPS chips/antennas (probably to keep the price down) because on modern setups (used by the likes of Garmin etc), a brand new cold lock can be achieved in a minute or two. Once you have locked on you should find re-aquiring the satellites much quicker unless you leave it for a day or two between 'fixes.'
Although having used GPS for 15 odd years, I am certainly no expert in how they work etc so I could be way off the mark but this is based on my experience.
1) It will lock on faster if you're outside with a clear view of the sky
2) Updating QuickGPS might help some
3) You can expect it to take 1-15 minutes to get the first lock (usually 2-3 for me)
Which app are you using? I like VisualGPSCe to view the sats, HTC GPS Tool is another popular one.
hi thanks for the info, Ive left the phone for ages (well over 25mins) and nothing ill try and get a screen shot posted when i get home of this, the software im using is that htc gps one im just prober scratching my head over this one......
Andi-2005 said:
hi thanks for the info, Ive left the phone for ages (well over 25mins) and nothing ill try and get a screen shot posted when i get home of this, the software im using is that htc gps one im just prober scratching my head over this one......
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I had my Touch pro for a few weeks and have always had the gps working well (though I think it's less sensitive than the Diamond).
after a brief period of losing the signal every couple of seconds (which was already locked and navigating me fine!) it stopped fixing altogether. Satellites shown but no signal bars in TomTom or any lock in Google maps.
Hard reset didn't help and it's being replaced tomorrow.....
I'd take it back to the shop once you rule everything else out....
When it comes to no cost, data-dependent GPS solutions, Android has a great app in the form of Google Navigator.
But as someone who travels fairly frequently and can go to all sorts of places in areas I've never even heard of (and not friendly to HSDPA), that sort of solution was simply not viable. I needed a GPS app that worked offline, had routing options, and allowed me to set advanced settings for it to work as I needed. Typically, my GPS app of choice has always been Tomtom, though I also liked Navigon, and considered iGo My Way/Roadmate to be viable choices. Unfortunately, as I'm sure many are aware, the major GPS manufacturers haven't released a single GPS app for Android...with none seeming to be on the horizon.
However, while browsing the Android Market, I did come upon one solution I'm also familiar with: CoPilot Live. I remember my experience with it (on the iPhone) as being rather iffy, but it seemed to be the only good choice on Android, so I decided to give it a second chance. Well, today, after a week or two of usage, and after coming back from a journey to yet another new place in another state, I think I'm ready to give my assessment of CPL.
I don't like it.
Frequently throughout the trip, CPL had me driving around in circles. Other issues include jumpy location fixes (it would frequently indicate I'm on a road I'm not or say I passed a road I didn't). In one case, it even completely listed the name of a road on the info bar incorrectly...despite having the correct name on the actual map. Other times, it would freeze after telling me to make a turn thus making me miss the next intended turn or, best of all, tell me to make a turn only to then afterwards ask me to make a U-Turn.
The funny thing was that even when it did work fine (which was about 60% of the trip), the routing it gave was baffling. Leaving my house, I asked CPL to give me the most 'economical' routing. This is actually one of my favorite routing options CPL has -- it gives you the routing that saves gas, yet does not increase the travel time by too much. It worked well too; the routing it gave me saved over 10 miles, but did not take too much longer than the normal route.
So the routing on my way out worked fine, but the routing for the way back? Not so much. Going back, I decided to ask CPL to give me the 'quickest' routing. Now, I had also asked it to avoid tolls if possible, so logically, it should have taken me back to the 'economical' route (which had no tolls) for a part of the way before jumping me out onto a faster highway.
Instead, it seemed to have done the exact opposite: It took me through the toll, then promptly jumped me back into the 'economical' route for the rest of the way home.
Afterwards, out of curiosity, I decided to look up the turn list for 'quickest' and 'economical' towards the location I went to. The routing were almost exactly the same with only small changes. I set CPL to allow tolls and tried again; same routing as before. It seemed as if one of the best (and very well known) interstate highways used for traveling was completely left out of CPL's routing. Why is this the case? Hell if I know.
I could go on all day -- but sufficed to say, it wasn't what I had expected. It's probably unfair of me to assess it the way I did considering it's less established and (probably) less well funded than the likes of Navigon, but that's the way I feel. It's a shame really. I've been using my handheld electronics for GPS since I first discovered that my Palm TX was capable of such a thing, but at this rate, I may have to end up buying a Tomtom GPS unit.
What are the odds that your location issues are from the faulty GPS drivers and will be fixed in the forthcoming firmware update?
CoPilot's maps are the worst. They use their own data instead of using Navteq or TeleAtlas and their maps are atleast 5 years out of date in my area.
So far, I haven't found a standalone GPS app I like in Android either.
I like and use waze all the time. Doesnt work too well with the crap gps on here but on winmo it was the best app.
I used the stock samsung one that comes on the european roms that works pretty well
fooldog01 said:
What are the odds that your location issues are from the faulty GPS drivers and will be fixed in the forthcoming firmware update?
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Almost none, I'd say.
Unlike many here, I haven't experienced any GPS issues with my Captivate. Lock-on speeds are fairly quick (it seems comparable to what I experienced on the iPhone and HTC Fuze) and the GPS fix remains in all applicable areas and not in others (bridges, forest, etc). Aside from all of that, The problem doesn't appear nearly as much with Google Navigator.
smokestack76 said:
I like and use waze all the time. Doesnt work too well with the crap gps on here but on winmo it was the best app.
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If that's the case, I wished I had tried Waze back when I had owned a WinMo phone, but the problem was that WinMo had fantastic GPS solutions, so I didn't bother using the less well known brands.
I would love an "offline" GPS App. Whatever happened to Navigon USA?
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I like and use waze all the time. Doesnt work too well with the crap gps on here but on winmo it was the best app.
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Waze is still an online solution like Google Navigation. It downloads the maps and data as you drive, so if you go out of coverage, you're stuck, unless it cached enough of the map to still work with no signal.
mindfrost82 said:
Waze is still an online solution like Google Navigation. It downloads the maps and data as you drive, so if you go out of coverage, you're stuck, unless it cached enough of the map to still work with no signal.
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Thats why i like waze. Even in areas that i have no reception it still works ok. And still works ok with the crap gps on the captivate for now. So all good with me And i drive a truck so i use it alot. So far no issues that were too bad
I've been using Sygic Mobile Maps for about a month so far. It is an "off-line" Nav App.
I like it so far, was just up in Canada, on the north side of Lake Superior, with no cell/data service and it worked great. Has a pretty good POI database. Even allows you to navigate to Contacts.
Navigon for Android
Navigon actually makes an Android version now.
Not sure if they have any US maps for it yet though.
Video of Sygic
Found a video of Sygic Mobile Maps 10 running on a Galaxy S phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfDodvbyl2w
ozone777 said:
Navigon actually makes an Android version now.
Not sure if they have any US maps for it yet though.
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Yeah no maps yet for the US.... hopefully soon..
NDrive for Android
NDrive also has a version for Android.
http://www.ndriveweb.com/products/product/96/
US maps are available.
Get it with a 7 day free trial from the Market Place.
ozone777 said:
Navigon actually makes an Android version now.
Not sure if they have any US maps for it yet though.
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They don't. Aside from that, even if they did have it, the Android version of Navigon is not supported on the Captivate; the APK is available, but without a supported phone, registering appears to be impossible (as registering requires you to enter the last four digit of your phone number which then goes through Navigon's servers).
ozone777 said:
NDrive also has a version for Android.
Get it with a 7 day free trial from the Market Place.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'll give it a try.
I also travel extensively. After trying every possible phone based GPS (iPhone, B-berry and Android), i came to the conclusion that, while some are better than the others, none of them are reliable enough to be used exclusively. So, I still carry a dedicated unit that always gets me from point A to point Z.
myx0mop said:
I also travel extensively. After trying every possible phone based GPS (iPhone, B-berry and Android), i came to the conclusion that, while some are better than the others, none of them are reliable enough to be used exclusively. So, I still carry a dedicated unit that always gets me from point A to point Z.
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I can understand your sentiment.
Even on the iPhone and WinMo (both of which had great GPS apps), I still felt the need to occasionally turn to Google Maps to supplement my driving. With GM plus whatever GPS app I was using, I never had trouble navigating regardless of where I was going.
Aside from that, as I said, my primary GPS software of choice is Tomtom. I'm not so sure about the other GPS companies, but Tomtom uses the same GPS software in phones as they do in their dedicated GPS units, so there really is no benefit to using their dedicated unit as opposed to their phone versions. In fact, I would actually dare claim the phone version is better due to more functionality from the integration with your phone.
I have TomTom on my 3Gs, but the problem is not with the software, which is fine, but with the phone that periodically loses the GPS lock.
I've used TomTom for 3+ years on my WinMo phone, and it has worked perfectly.
They only problem I have wiht TomTom is they don't 'officially' support my Tilt, and getting U.S. Maps was a pain. Due to that, I've been thinking of not going back with TomTom if/when they do come out wiht SW for Android.
But, if nothing else is available, or is not any good, I ultimately may go back with them. But only if my phone is supported, (which will be the Captivate).
myx0mop said:
I have TomTom on my 3Gs, but the problem is not with the software, which is fine, but with the phone that periodically loses the GPS lock.
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Huh, that's strange. I'm a former 3GS owner and I would actually rank its GPS as among the best I've ever used. Extremely fast lock-ons in virtually every condition (including the inside of my home) and I've never experienced a lost GPS lock under normal conditions, even during the one time I used it when I had to drive 200 miles out of state.
Meh, but being the owner of the Captivate, I know fully well how much the experience varies with different owners. Aside from that, the ability to field phone calls and use the GPS at the same time must be nice.