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HTC name for MPx?

Hi all,
Noob question: Whats the HTC name for the Motorola MPx? I tried looking, but hitting a brick wall. Even the HTC website doesn't list it down.
And any idea if WM5 has been successfully installed on the MPx?

Um...it's not an HTC, it's a Motorola?

Mmm... do excuse my ignorance, the MPx isnt a very common device to begin with.
Seeing that this forum has many mods/comments for the different types of HTCs, does that mean there really isnt much for the MPx in this forum then?

as far as I know MPx(at least 200) was made by HTC, and only branded motorola. But i think it was of course made based on contract that probably made MPx 200 exclusive branded only motorola.

Stupe said:
Hi all,
Noob question: Whats the HTC name for the Motorola MPx? I tried looking, but hitting a brick wall. Even the HTC website doesn't list it down.
And any idea if WM5 has been successfully installed on the MPx?
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As far as I know, the never-really-released (okay, it was released on some asian markets and there are tons of engineering samples out there) MPx is a Motorola device, not a HTC one.

Stupe said:
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And any idea if WM5 has been successfully installed on the MPx?
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Yes WM5 can be installed on MPx200 for sure, probably to MPx220 as well. But part of the system is on storage card.

phsnake said:
Yes WM5 can be installed on MPx200 for sure, probably to MPx220 as well. But part of the system is on storage card.
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He is talking about the MPx, also known as MPx300. It was a vaporware device: the release date was pushed further and further and in the end it was only released in a few asian countries, however there are quite some engineering samples out there. It was a really nice concept (portrait AND landscape clamshell) with great design, a QVGA screen, a keyboard and WM2003SE however it had only 32 mb memory (after a hard reset, it had like 8 mb ram available for everything) and a slow processor. It was overhyped, and there were rumors of a 64 mb version, which never came to reality.
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(and no, there is no WM5 out there for it as far as I know)

Not to mention it was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overpriced for what it was. Anyway, I think you'd probably do better checking howardforums.com and seeing what they have over there for the motorolas. From there you could probably find a site specific to them. You'll also notice that there isn't much here for the Treo, either. pcgeeks.com might have better coverage for you, too.

sorry i didnt know that he's talking about 300. there are 3MPx - MPx200, MPx220, MPx300, he didnt wrote which one he's speaking about. Because 200 & 220 are most common i guessed its about them. btw i'm 90% sure that MPx200 was made by HTC.

phsnake said:
sorry i didnt know that he's talking about 300. there are 3MPx - MPx200, MPx220, MPx300, he didnt wrote which one he's speaking about. Because 200 & 220 are most common i guessed its about them. btw i'm 90% sure that MPx200 was made by HTC.
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He did not write "what device he was talking about" because that is the actual name of the device. The "Motorola MPx" actually was its final name. MPx300 was more of less just a rumor or at most an early internal name for the device.
Sorry, you are incorrect. The MPx200 was not made by HTC or Motorola. It was made by another Windows CE device ODM named Chei Mei Communication Systems (CMCS) of Taiwan. Both the MPx200 and MPx220 were made by Chei Mei Communications rather than HTC. As for the MPx, I'm not 100% sure but I would not be surprised if they were also the ODM for that device.
CMCS's ODM codename for the MPx200 was the "Beethoven". This is also why many of the ROMs for the MPx200 have names such as "BEN-XXX".
Here are some interesting photos I found of the unbranded Chei Mei version from before Motorola announced they would sell it:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,111839-page,1/article.html
Cool stuff!

I'm not sure, but I think that HTC was an ODM on the mpx200.
EDIT: oops, nvm

Can someone tell me which PDA is better?

Which is a better PDA
Xda Mini S
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XDA II
Thanks

Benefits of XDA II
400 mhz processor
128mb ram
normal SD Card slot
Benefits of XDA Mini S
Full qwerty keyboard
Wifi (B/G)
Stand-by Up to 200 h
Talk time Up to 5 h
Camera 1.3 MP, 1280x960 pixels, video, flash (as opposed to XDA II's VGA Cam)
v2.0 bluetooth
smaller phone
Personally i owned a xda mini s and loved it - so much that my upgrades have led me to the XDA Trion (upgrade from xda mini s but downgrade from xda stellar)
but its all preference i love it due to the keyboard and wifi.

Thanks
The XDA II I bought from ebay says it has WIFI.
Look at what i bought
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110249164290
Is it good?

no, it says it has
...optional Wireless LAN capabilities...
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they probably mean wifi SD cards.

bommel0815 said:
no, it says it has
"optional Wireless LAN capabilities"
they probably mean wifi SD cards.
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correct!
It means SDIO Wifi Cards which means you cannot have a SD card and wifi at the same time.

It says
Features:
Bluetooth, Camera, Email/Web, Expansion Slot, MP3 Player, Phone Capability, Speaker(s), WLAN/WiFi
The description has just been copied from somewhere.

Yeah, can't go wrong with the mini S even though it's a bit slower and the screen is smaller. The form factor is much better.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=68&id2=331
Plus it adds WiFi and Bluetooth 2.0 (1.1 on the XDA II)

hmm o2's website says the xda II has wifi too..
this is getting confusing haha
i would still of chose the mini S though, but you have bought the xdaII now so no worries - could you possibly clarify if the xda II has wifi?
cheers

I had the Mini S - actually it was a T-Mobile branded MDA Vario. Out of all the phones with slide out keyboards I found it the most usable - the spacing between the keys makes it easy to type with. I did find the device to be very slow and unresonponsive though, particularly with the operator's original ROM - when I unlocked it and flashed WM6 ROMs from the Wizard forum I found performance improved considerably.
Most of the time it performed well - wifi was good - I found connection to my home router very simple and straight forward. Still found web browsing painfully slow though. And the screen is pretty small for most web pages.
Quite liked it - it was my first PDA phone - I'd always had separates in the past. I did get a little tired of it though, and found that I didn't use the keyboard as much as I thought I would - I've just ordered a new phone without a keyboard this time and bigger screen.

kingsizeriz said:
hmm o2's website says the xda II has wifi too..
this is getting confusing haha
i would still of chose the mini S though, but you have bought the xdaII now so no worries - could you possibly clarify if the xda II has wifi?
cheers
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I am getting the XDA II tommorow.
I will tell everyone if it has WIFI or not. If it doesnt the seller is screwed.

It did not have Wifi.
He said he would refund as he made a mistake.
I asked for £10 off.
I got the XDA II new cond inc delivery for £30.
Any good?

i am suprised he gave a refund.. due to the fact he stated "optional Wireless LAN capabilities..."
nevermind, worked out well for you
is a good deal to be honest, cant go wrong with a pda phone for £30..
mini S would have costed more to get anyway.

kingsizeriz said:
i am suprised he gave a refund.. due to the fact he stated "optional Wireless LAN capabilities..."
nevermind, worked out well for you
is a good deal to be honest, cant go wrong with a pda phone for £30..
mini S would have costed more to get anyway.
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yeh its in real nice condition too , i think the PDA must of been kept it a steel case.Not a single mark.

Help me decide which phone to get....

I have a S621, and it has been giving me issues, so the company is upgrading it for me.
I have the following windows mobile choices available
1. HTC Diamond
2. HTC TyTN II
3. HTC Touch Dual
My data plan has been pulled due to budget cuts, but may be instated in future. not surre..
so I rely on the WIFI to get my email using Seven/Lotus notes.
The diamond specs said it has GPS, does it need DAta servicefor that?
TYTNII say it has GPS too, does it work like diamond?"
the part I like about tytnis the full keyboard. and touch screen both. thats why I like this one, and leaning towards it.
Touch Duo the keyboard is not full.
I listen to music a lot so they have to support that.
the touch features are great too.
here are my choices
http://www.cincinnatibell.com/business/wireless/phones_and_devices/
the others are
Pantech DUO

I would go with the Diamond 2 if you don't need a keyboard! See the Topaz section of this forum for details & info...

galaxys said:
I would go with the Diamond 2 if you don't need a keyboard! See the Topaz section of this forum for details & info...
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it is just diamond not diamond 2. our carrier is behind times

I would go for HTC TyTN II definetly
Of course if you are looking for a buissness oriented device is the only one with physical keyboard

Its a topic for me
Guys, i have two devices, diamond and tytn I pro. Anybody who had this 2 devicesx, have ever compared the displays?
I noticed, that the qvga display is much better than vga. Yes thats the vga has smoother images..but the qvga is more sharper and brighter coloured, i mean ith has brighter colours than vga.
Fiirst i saw it at the start menu, when i was searching at the programs, i noticed that the tytn has much brghter white backgroung behind the icons that my diamond. the diamonds white was almost yellow compared to the tytn's qvga screen...
The second thing, when i installed m2d on tytn, it was much faster than the m3d on my diamond, and almost nothing differenc beetven the 2 interfaces...
also i saw some videos with tytn II and some new roms, the performances are suber..
now i want to sell my diamond and get a tytn II...
khmmm..anybody knows why is that on my diamond the white bckgroung not is bright at my tytn?

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-pictures-2834.php
Absolutely has everything but won't have xda dev support

thank you
appreciate your insights !!!!

Hmmm...... okay, you have a choice of
Diamond
Kaiser
Touch Dual
Okay, I would get the Diamond II......no...no...the Samsung Omnia Pro, ......or the Nokia n97....
I am totally biased , but the Kaiser is the best phone I have ever had, business wise and personal.

teese said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-pictures-2834.php
Absolutely has everything but won't have xda dev support
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who knows...maybe it will have, like the xperia...

materijalmen said:
who knows...maybe it will have, like the xperia...
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Xperia is HTC made I think you will find. Anyway, all I can say -after owning the diamond for a week- is wow! Its brilliant! I would love to try the HTC TYTN II but I think its a little too bulky.

materijalmen said:
who knows...maybe it will have, like the xperia...
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Xperia is HTC made I think you will find.
Anyway, all I can say -after owning the diamond for a week- is wow! Its brilliant! I would love to try the HTC TYTN II but I think its a little too bulky.

khsbenny said:
Xperia is HTC made I think you will find.
Anyway, all I can say -after owning the diamond for a week- is wow! Its brilliant! I would love to try the HTC TYTN II but I think its a little too bulky.
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i tried tytn - i have a tytn -...it is awesome..it is a WOW affect after using the diamond..trust me. i dont care about hardwer. Simply it is just awesome so i can imagine how would be da tytn II...

kojigushi said:
2. HTC TyTN II
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Get this one, the tilting screen is a must, and I think it's worth sacrificing for diamond features.

^Yeh, that's about the only thing I wish the Hermes had - a tilt screen.

galaxys said:
^Yeh, that's about the only thing I wish the Hermes had - a tilt screen.
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sorry for my bad english..what is a tilt screen?

materijalmen said:
sorry for my bad english..what is a tilt screen?
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this is a tilt screen
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omg, a tilt screen is a scrren witha screen protector or whats that at the upper right corner?
sorry but i dont heard yet about "tilt"

If you need a physical keyboard then TyTn II else you can go for Diamond...

Tilting screen (the one on the end)

I'm not sure if Tytn II comes with HTC Home or Touchflo, but if it comes with HTC Home, then there is one big advantage: You will be able to use all kinds of plugins on the start screen without disabling the HTC interface. This way you'll be able to show birthdays, todos and so on on the Start Screen, with Touchflo/Diamond this is not possible without disabling the Touchflo interface.
But I'm not sure if you've had a look at the Tytn II in real live. It is pretty thick, not very well sized for your pants' pockets.
Dennis

Rockchip RK2808 Based Apad iRobot (also Moonse E7001)

I just placed an order for one of these, but discussion on xda has been kind of sparse. So I decided to put this together.
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This iPad look-alike is based on the Rockchip RK2808, which is also in the Ramos W7 and the Archos 7 Home Tablet. That means ROMs are largely compatible between the 3 devices, and any other RK2808 devices to come.
Where to talk about it
Slatedroid.com has a dedicated forum for the device.
I'll be there when mine ships, I hope. There are several ROM cooks already and I might know enough to contribute a bit.
ROMs
There are a couple of custom ROMs for this device you can flash already
Deving
The device has a .25 kernel, which is messed. Cupcake is supposed to have .27. We figured out how to repack the system so we can get some things working. /system is read-only right now after it's flashed on to the device.
We don't know how to modify the boot.img so we can't touch the ramdisk.
No idea about what's going to happen for kernel source, but we might as well try to poke ArchosFans to get it from Archos. The Archos 7 Home Tablet firmware actually runs on this tablet.
Drivers are only available for 32 bit Windows for the flashing tool.
adb works. adb has a root shell. So for all intents and purposes the device is rooted.
Identifying the device
Just because your device looks like a 7" or 8" iPad, it is not necessarily this Rockchip model. There are literally half a dozen models based on the inferior VIA WM8505 instead.
The VIA is fine when priced a lot lower than the the Rockchip one, but sellers have been posing their VIA tablets as Rockchip ones. It's just a mess out there. Just be careful.
The two postings on DealExtreme seem legitimate. One is expired already, but the key is the Rockchip software on the device. I didn't buy from there, but you can take a look yourself: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37867
Otherwise the Moonse E7001 is the same device rebranded.
If you don't know what you have, look here:
http://www.hiapad.com/?p=218
The Youtube videos are probably what everyone should be looking at.
Other hints about what you might be getting a VIA one:
Android 1.7 (wtf?), Android 1.6
No front facing camera (some VIA models have them now, but the majority don't)
Gripes so far I've identified
Before getting the device, I've identified the following gripes with the device. I'll confirm these when I get it:
device heats up when charging?
screen cannot be brought back up when brightness is turned all the way down?
microphone does nothing?
camera can't scan barcodes, maybe resolution is too low?

They are planning an official update to 2.1 in July. Check the official hiapad.com for more information. But probably the update will take the same time as it does on the HTC Hero.. if it will ever come!
As the kernel is the biggest problem for good android development: what kernel does the archos use? .27?

Not sure, but I have reason to think that all 3 devices are on the same kernel with small modifications.
In fact the A7HT ROM boots on this device unmodified, but some things don't work.
I have not heard news about the A7HT being upgraded to 2.1. I am not expecting much in that department.

I heard that they would be coming out with the update also. It's on their webpage. Chip3c says it in one of the comments about the last update

Hi All
My friend order one from internet ,
it's Apad irobot it come with Android 1.5 , fron Camera ( but not clear " i think 1.3 MP " )
I try to get to the root so i can make it support arabic languge but could'nt .
it's nice for reading books , movies , internet .
thanks

I think I recall that even for the G1, getting Arabic to work around correctly was a pretty involved hack.
You can probably get the fonts in if they are not working properly. The ROM is rootable and you can modify the binaries. We just don't have any source code.

Slatedroid is down all the time.
I put together a ROM. It's on my blog. I suggest you read the cautions:
http://myapad.wordpress.com/
Flash tool: http://hiapad.com/?p=801&lang=en

My friends bought in Hong Kong almost the same but without front camera and with hynix memory inside, while new modules with camera come with samsung. They made mistake and tried to flash it with rom which was supposed for the version WITH CAMERA.
I've been trying to find the rom to flash into the device, actually hynix modules... Without luck. Although the device is recognized by the system as it should be RK28USB but then no go... black screen, even bootloader does not start. I'm not familiar with linux but thought that something could be done with it to put correct kernel and modules.
Any thoughts, please?

It seems like we will not get the 2.1 update:
Apad iRobot Wont have an update to Android 2.1
To all Apad iRobot owners,
Regrettably, we are announcing that our Apad iRobot is not upgradable to Android 2.1 or other versions of Android. We know we said that there was an effort to work on an update for July, but that is no longer feasible. In particular, our chipset supplier Rockchip has halted development of Android 2.1 on the RK2808 platform. We are disappointed as well.
We could have kept quiet about this, but we do not want to deceive you and thereby decided to be honest about this.
We still plan to release additional updates for Android 1.5. We believe that the Apad iRobot as a competitive device.
Many devices you see on the market today is a combined development and manufacturing effort by multiple companies. As such, this decision is not completely under our control given our jurisdiction and our resources. However, while we prefer not to go into details, we do play a crucial role in the manufacturing and development of the Apad iRobot. We do ask for your understanding.
In addition to this, we noticed that a lot of customers are inquiring about Moonse. We now clarify that we do not officially support any of Moonse products. We do not assemble the Moonse branded Rockchip tablets, nor do we supply them. We used to supply some non-electronic components to them, but that relationship is now over. We both make the Rockchip based tablet we call the Apad, but our processes are different. In particular, we have would like to warn those Moonse branded batch 1 customers with Hynix flash memory chips to be careful. Moonse Rockchip Apad components are interchangeable with ours, so for those of you who are stuck with Hynix flash memory, or have issues with their touch screens, you can contact us:
Internationally, www.digital3c.com via mail inquiry
Within China, you can use www.kaixin3c.com (开心3C) and leave an online message
Source: http://hiapad.com/?p=878&lang=en

anyone looking at this?
I just saw from another board that archos released source codes for their 7home tablet, which also has the rockchip 2808.
ww.archos.com
/support/download/software/sources/Archos7HT_GPL.tgz
would this make android 2.1 possible?

themsn said:
anyone looking at this?
I just saw from another board that archos released source codes for their 7home tablet, which also has the rockchip 2808.
ww.archos.com
/support/download/software/sources/Archos7HT_GPL.tgz
would this make android 2.1 possible?
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I would settle for a 1.6 upgrade just to get Kindle at this point.

It became possible, but people stopped caring

Hi,
maybe something for you: http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/11062-romfroyo-22-hybride-v3-batch-23-30111/
Corstian

Need advice on my next PHONE/TABLET / what model is better? Official Thread---

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Which device is better than the other and why.
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Please HTC .. make a 10 inch Tablet with Android !
Anyone know if HTC is considering getting into tablets ?
I'd like a wireless Tablet to do light surfing, read google news, and interact with my media.

I would buy one in an instant...dual booting Android and Windows Mobile 7!

What I would like, is an advantage, (which is almost a 5" tablet), with a proper earpiece

Android with lowest SAR
I'm deciding about my first Android phone. I want a phone with a very low EU SAR (0.20 - 0.60) and Android 2.1 - 2.2 . Can you help me?

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Anyone know if HTC is considering getting into tablets ?
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Looks like they are !
HTC Upcoming Android Based Tablet Expected to Run Tegra 2
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-upcoming-android-based-tablet-expected-to-run-tegra-2-20100920/

and im sure it will be priced at 600-700 bucks which negates the whole purpose of a tablet....

[Q] Archos Android - 7" vs. 10.1"
I snagged a 7" Archos tablet, and it works pretty slick, but is only version Android 1.5 - very old. The 10.1" due out on 12/1/2010 in the US is reported to have Android 2.2 on it. Anyone have any comments on if the 7" will be upgraded, or should I return the 7" and wait for the 101?

The 7" is only on 1.5? Is this the NEW 7" or is there an old one?
I personally will be grabbing a 10.1".

Archos has 2 7" models. The Archos 7" Home Tablet and the Archos 7" Internet Tablet.
The 7" Home Tablet only runs Android 1.5
The 7 and 10" Internet Tablets will be running Android 2.2 once a firmware update comes out.
My recommendation would be to return the 7" tablet you purchased and wait until the 7" Internet Tab or 10" Internet Tab comes out.

Yep, you nailed it.
Thanks tbohnert! Yeah, mine is the home tablet, not the internet one. Ouch. Did not even notice the difference in the store... Wondered why it was only 1.5...
Taking it back today... They should accept the return with the usual stupid restock fee. Sorry, this was not the 'droid I was looking for...
;-]

the 7 HT is on 1.5 Android
the 7.0 IT is on 2.1 (i have 2.2 on test.... IT IS GREAT)

tbohnert said:
Archos has 2 7" models. The Archos 7" Home Tablet and the Archos 7" Internet Tablet.
The 7" Home Tablet only runs Android 1.5
The 7 and 10" Internet Tablets will be running Android 2.2 once a firmware update comes out.
My recommendation would be to return the 7" tablet you purchased and wait until the 7" Internet Tab or 10" Internet Tab comes out.
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Shame the 101 is not the same spec as the 70, no option for 250gb hd. Is that being held back for the 101 mk2?
The 250 hd doesn't seem to drive the price up too much in the 7" version, would have been v useful to have it in the 10".

cajl said:
the 7 HT is on 1.5 Android
the 7.0 IT is on 2.1 (i have 2.2 on test.... IT IS GREAT)
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How does the Archos 70 IT works as an ebook reader? I'm between buying this one, or the nook, but if the nook is not rooted, it won't be of much use to read comics...

RSchmauk said:
How does the Archos 70 IT works as an ebook reader? I'm between buying this one, or the nook, but if the nook is not rooted, it won't be of much use to read comics...
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I just got a Archos 7"... Where did you get the 2.2 test version? Thanks.

[Q] Google Nexus S vs Dell Venue Pro
Basically I am deciding between these two phones (assuming I can get a functional version of the venue pro). I want your guys' input.
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If you need a keyboard get the Venue Pro, otherwise get the Nexus S. I like Windows Phone 7 but im going to wait for it to mature first before I jump from Android.

Venure.
After the WP7 update in Janurary many of the qualms will be eliminated with the platform, and the Nexus S is, IMO, worse than a Vibrant.
It just runs stock Android instead of TouchWiz.
The biggest advantage Android fans spout over WP7 (the ability to expand storage) is not there in the Nexus S because it lacks an SD Card Slot.
WP7 has a better user experience than Android, runs better than Android does on factorably better hardware - with the same major capabilities. Has better battery life. Has better Exchange support.
WP7 devices are infinitely better media devices than Android phones.
If you use mostly just basic phone/internet browsing stuff on you phone any would do. If you want something a bit more flexible (probably a flamebait term... /lesigh) then go for WP7.
The keyboard is not that big of a factor. I wouldn't base any decision on just that.

Thunderbolt slaps NexusS
unofficial specs for the Verizon Thunderbolt posted over at htcpedia...
http://htcpedia.com/news/unofficial-htc-thunderbolt-specs-are-insane.html
You know how HTC loves to blow everyone away with specs, almost as if they're screaming "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!" with their hardware? Well, if the image below is correct, then they're about to do it again with the HTC Thunderbolt.
This image, supposedly taken from a German retailer's system, lists specs for the European HTC Thunderbolt. And hol-e-carp are they amazing. Let's run though the spec list, shall we:
• 4.3 inch display (duh)
• Dual Core 1.2GHz MSM8960 processor
• Android 2.3
• 8 Megapixel rear camera
• 5 megapixel front camera (that's just obscene)
• 16GB internal storage
• microSD support for up to 128GB (read that again)
• 1800 mAh battery (why isn't this in every phone?)
• Kickstand (the kitchen sink of the phone world)
I think I just peed a little.
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is this HTC's way of slapping Samsung and letting them know who should of really been the next Nexus?

If this is real, I may actually gain some respect for VZW lol. They finally decided to put out a high power Android phone like T-Mobile. Lets just hope its not Bingified and locked down haha.