hi, i see many ppl here flashing their roms everytime an update comes out. my question is that are you guys reinstalling all programs and setting up all the settings everytime you flash the rom. or is there way to load all that to a newly flashed rom with sprite backup or sunny back with affecting the new rom settings itself. i recently instlaled nbd 9.1, but also want to try other roms, but hate the fact of reinstalling everything and inputting settings everytime i do this is a drag. anyone else doing this an easier way?.
i also wanna know too.
I install most of my programs on a storage card. So there all there. But I have to move a shortcut the the phone.
Yes i redo all my settings. O well. only takes 5-10 mins.
sirccchar said:
hi, i see many ppl here flashing their roms everytime an update comes out. my question is that are you guys reinstalling all programs and setting up all the settings everytime you flash the rom. or is there way to load all that to a newly flashed rom with sprite backup or sunny back with affecting the new rom settings itself. i recently instlaled nbd 9.1, but also want to try other roms, but hate the fact of reinstalling everything and inputting settings everytime i do this is a drag. anyone else doing this an easier way?.
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When you flash, you wipe everything, so yes, you have to set everything up again. NEVER (and I mean NEVER) take a full backup with Sprite, Sunny, Spb backup, or similar and restore from one rom to another rom. You will cause all sorts of problems as you will be changing registry settings and more.
For me, I have a folder on my SD card called Setup Files. In there are cabs and .reg files I've created for everything I use. After I flash, I go to that folder and start running the apps. IF you want to get real adventurous, you can create your own extended rom to run stuff for you. There are also some tools for running cabs for you too, but for me, I have it down to a known pattern (and it can change with each rom depending what comes in the custom rom) so I just do it by hand. From the time I start the process of flashing to a new custom rom, to the point where my phone is back to where it was before, is about 1.5 hours (sometimes closer to an hour). Yeah, its a pain, but for me its worth it to be able to try out some of these roms (and if all I'm going to do is test a rom, I just do a full Sprite backup, flash the rom to test, then flash back to the original rom and then do a restore).
sirccchar said:
hi, i see many ppl here flashing their roms everytime an update comes out. my question is that are you guys reinstalling all programs and setting up all the settings everytime you flash the rom. or is there way to load all that to a newly flashed rom with sprite backup or sunny back with affecting the new rom settings itself. i recently instlaled nbd 9.1, but also want to try other roms, but hate the fact of reinstalling everything and inputting settings everytime i do this is a drag. anyone else doing this an easier way?.
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Unfortunately, yes you have to re-install everything and reconfigure all of your settings every time. The only shortcut to this would be to install programs to the storage card and create shortcuts to the programs in the start menu folder but even that takes about a minute per shortcut so you might as well just re-install them.
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Unfortunately, yes you have to re-install everything and reconfigure all of your settings every time. The only shortcut to this would be to install programs to the storage card and create shortcuts to the programs in the start menu folder but even that takes about a minute per shortcut so you might as well just re-install them.
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One danger here. Some programs require registry settings to be present for them to work properly. Just creating a shortcut to point to an old install may not work for all programs (and can cause weird things to happen since registry entries are missing). Some programs see the registry entries aren't there and create default ones. But a lot don't.
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One danger here. Some programs require registry settings to be present for them to work properly. Just creating a shortcut to point to an old install may not work for all programs (and can cause weird things to happen since registry entries are missing). Some programs see the registry entries aren't there and create default ones. But a lot don't.
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Oh yeah that's a good point. I completely forgot about that. Well, that's why I always just re-install everything... lol
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I am using Faria's Rom [the real thing], and today when I tried to intall the beta 3 version of battery Status to the ROM it couldn't complete the instalation. Then I went to add/remove programs menu to delete the previous version of the Battery Status, however, the were no programs listed there. The list is empty. I remember having this problem once when I tried the MB Rom. Any suggestions?
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I am using Faria's Rom [the real thing], and today when I tried to intall the beta 3 version of battery Status to the ROM it couldn't complete the instalation. Then I went to add/remove programs menu to delete the previous version of the Battery Status, however, the were no programs listed there. The list is empty. I remember having this problem once when I tried the MB Rom. Any suggestions?
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That is because the program in built into the ROM and therefore cannot be removed using the remove programs. Go ahead and download the update and install it.
Nope, I know that, but I have a lot of other programs that I installed myself. About 10 of them, and they all seem to be working fine, however I don't see them in add/remove programs.
Are the programs your using installed via activesync, do they show in activesync as installed programs? were they installed on a storage card?
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Nope, I know that, but I have a lot of other programs that I installed myself. About 10 of them, and they all seem to be working fine, however I don't see them in add/remove programs.
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The active sync doesn't connect to the device. All the programs were installed in main memory.
it sounds like you might have to go back and install them through active sync. It might not work, but it would sort of force active sync to recognize your programs, do you know what i mean?
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it sounds like you might have to go back and install them through active sync. It might not work, but it would sort of force active sync to recognize your programs, do you know what i mean?
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Yes, but when I said add/remove programs menu, I meant the one that is in the phone, not in the active sync. I don't see the one in the phone menu
I think that if you want to update a program that's already in the ROM you will have to run th CAB, then remove it with the add/remove programs option, and then re-install it. otherwise the device may not recognize the updated version.
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I think that if you want to update a program that's already in the ROM you will have to run th CAB, then remove it with the add/remove programs option, and then re-install it. otherwise the device may not recognize the updated version.
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I had the same problem after upgrading to the BatteryStatusExt.1.04.203.beta4.CAB. I could not activesync, could not delete, move or rename any files with File Explorer, could not install any CAB files and there were no programs in the Add/Remove programs list (even though like you, I had 10 or so installed). I was able to remove the BatteryStatus folder using TotalCommander but unforutenly, this did not help.
I had no choice but to hard reset my device which of course sorted the problem.
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I am using Faria's Rom [the real thing], and today when I tried to intall the beta 3 version of battery Status to the ROM it couldn't complete the instalation. Then I went to add/remove programs menu to delete the previous version of the Battery Status, however, the were no programs listed there. The list is empty. I remember having this problem once when I tried the MB Rom. Any suggestions?
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I've had the add/remove go blank on me several times...would not allow me to install any cab's...and obviously I could not uninstall anything if it wasn't listed. The sad thing is a hard reset is about the only fix. I started using Sprite Backup so if it happened I could get back to a recent image. It always seemed to occur about the time I went into camera settings and made changes too but I couldn't nail down the culprit..the one time I took an image, then did the camera settings, of course it worked fine. I know you won't like my answer..I sure didn't when it happened to me.
So when I'm in the satellite tab i see the sattelites but than it says "Mode 2: Fix not available". I have been struggling with getting my GPS to work and maybe there is a thing I could make the fix available?
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Hiya,
Try this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427888
Everyone has problems with GPS and I wish that HTC would fix this. However i used the Elite RC3 ROM last week and they seemed to fix it on mine so it might be worth trying custom Roms.
I tried that but it still doesn't get a fix. Also when I put a new rom on my phone and use SPB backup to restore my contacts and programs, will the programs work? It would be too much installing for me after I flash the new rom.
What i do is this. I have an 8GB expasion card in mine so i install all the programs/games i need to that. i also use PIM backup to backup all my contacts.
All i do is run PIM backup to backup messages, contacts etc and copy all my shortcuts from the programs menu. When you hard reset or flash all you will need to do is restore the PIM backup, restore you shortcuts and you're sorted.
However if some programs require serials, you will need to enter them back in again as this is saved in the registry on the device it self. Any personal settings for those programs should be saved too providing it saves them to the storage card.
Hi!
Im looking for a software that will backup everything before I install a new room. I would like to save the settings etc.
cheers!
Ok there are a lot of options depending on the amount of time you want to spend either before or after upgrading (or both), this one SASHIMI http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538513 will do everything (well it sure looks like it anyway!) but seems very complicated to setup.
There is also SPB Backup & Sprite backup which I believe do a good job.
I haven't used any of these, I nearly used SASHIMI, but wasn't prepared to spend the time setting it up.
For me I use PIMBackup (search) which does a fairly good job for the time you put into it, I then backup other programs manually, for me that means Voice dialing, single file reg settings (make as I edited them to start with), plus then anything else I can think of.
You get out of the process what you put in, I decided I didn't want to spend ages preparing and would sort out reconfiguring my device manually after.
Backing up from one ROM and restoring onto another has the potential to cause you problems.
Some backup software (like Sprite) has different restore levels available depending on whether you're restoring to the same ROM, a different ROM or a different device, but I've never had much success with any of them.
The general recommendation appears to be a clean install from scratch, and use backups only for restoring to the same ROM in the event of an emergency.
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I had the same problem. I wanted to try another rom, but before I wanted to backup all personal settings and programs. Therefore I've dumped my ROM completely with Radio and then made a complete backup with SPB Backup.
After that I was able to flash other Roms and restore my own whenever I want.
Is there any such software thats is easy to use to backup the ROM before trying another. Got a T-Mobile Compact V but don't know where to get the stock ROM as a backup so I can flash some of the new ROM's avaliable.
For me pim backup does the job great. Quickly and easily saves contacts, messages, emails, appointments etc.
bassboy303 said:
Is there any such software thats is easy to use to backup the ROM before trying another. Got a T-Mobile Compact V but don't know where to get the stock ROM as a backup so I can flash some of the new ROM's avaliable.
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To backup your ROM (not the Radio unfortunately), you can use DumpMyPhone.
Then with the tool RebuildROM you can create a flashable version of your original ROM.
This is only to backup your ROM. It's not for your applications and not for the Radio or the SPL.
Hi folks. Got a question that I cant seem to find a definitive answer.
I am thinking of upgrading my 1.48 ROM to 1.66. I dont care to install all my stuff afterwards though. So, if I do a backup with Sprite, flash the phone to a new HTC ROM, will I have to reinstall everything or can I just do a restore with Sprite? And, if I do a restore, how does it "reinstall" all of my apps without changing the ROM back to the old one?
Thanks in advance.
Also, if I upgrade the ROM, and then later do a reset by holding the volume button while hitting the power button, will it hard rest to the factory 1.48 ROM, or the new 1.66 ROM?
Anybody have an answer?
Hello,i don't use sprite backup,but with spb backup , it's possible . Maybe it's similar with sprite . however i prefer ,after flashing, install manually all the software ...
After some more searching, the answer is yes, you can restore after upgrading your ROM. And, they have an HTC special for 19.95 if anybody needs to buy Sprite Backup. It has worked very well for me.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup-htc-special
I use Sprite and have on my last two phones.
It does a great job on back-up/restore on the same ROM. Going to a new ROM it can work, but usually some problems. It all depends what you try to restore to the new ROM. Best to reinstall your apps. Good time to dump the stuff you do not really use anyway. Check the settings before each back-up and restore. You will need to re-enter your code and password after hard reset. Company up-graded with new version for no cost even after two years.
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Also, if I upgrade the ROM, and then later do a reset by holding the volume button while hitting the power button, will it hard rest to the factory 1.48 ROM, or the new 1.66 ROM?
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If you update to 1.66 and then do a hard reset it will reset to 1.66.
Also I'd like to say that i don't like any backup software because the restore function is sometimes messy and i like to make a clean install of the software i use to get rid of leftovers picked from the backup.
I flash my phone 3 times a week maybe more. the only things i backup are:
"pim.vol" its in your device folder and contains all your contacts, tasks, calendar entries and call history. I use Resco explorer to just copy it to SD and restore it back to device.
"Favorite order" its in [HKCU\software\HTC\People\FavoriteOrder]
which i also backup with resco registry editor and contains the order that your favorite contacts appear in peoples tab. and
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iarapilot said:
Also, if I upgrade the ROM, and then later do a reset by holding the volume button while hitting the power button, will it hard rest to the factory 1.48 ROM, or the new 1.66 ROM?
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It will be 1.66...
I hope you read the help document come with sprite backup or look for information on sprite offical website first before you ask these questions. A more resonable way, right?
By the way, all three levels of "restore" will replace exsiting settings and files, be careful.
My understanding of backing up a nandroid is that it creates an exact backup of your phone, as is, which can then easily be restored.
As advised, I have been trying out a couple of different ROMs to see which is best for me and with the advice of many of you, Ive mostly figured that process out.
But where I am struggling is figuring out how to optimize my use of Nandroids to streamline this. Heres the specific issue:
I flashed a ROM and then set everything up. I created my desktop screens, shortcuts to key contacts and apps, widgets, etc. Loaded pictures into my photo app, labeled favorites...usual stuff.
I then created a backup.
When I went to restore this backup, I ran into a bunch of issues. For example, the contact shortcuts were still in my launcher (Apex), but if I click on them they either pull up an incorrect contact or say "no such contact exists". So in the end, I need to go through and create all of these shortcuts again from scratch. Similar experience when I open the photo app (JustPictures) where all of the favorite labeled pictures are now gone. Other examples include apps that were on the device, but now no longer appear.
None of this is hard to fix, but it is very time consuming and makes it hard to use backup/recovery as a way to seamlessly flash and move between configured ROMs.
Am I doing something wrong? Any advice on how to optimize this so I can make this process manageable and not a barrier to trying something new but easily reverting when necessary?
You must he doing something wrong. I have never had any issues restoring a backup. And have never seen anyone else post about such things. You need to explain every step you took. It literally should be as simple as rebooting into recovery, clicking "Backup", let it do its thing, flash some other ROM, go play around with it, dislike it, refrain from posting in the ROM thread something like "tried out this ROM but didn't like it so I'm restoring a backup," reboot back into recovery, select "Restore", choose your backup, let it do its thing, and BOOM, back to the way it was.
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If you're not "wiping clean" system,data,cache , before restoring backups , do it ... or you'll face the problems you mentioned ... Actually you should never install or restore anything without formatting all those 3 areas..
Use also a good recovery , sk8witski 14.6 latest one ...
mahanddeem said:
If you're not "wiping clean" system,data,cache , before restoring backups , do it ... or you'll face the problems you mentioned ... Actually you should never install or restore anything without formatting all those 3 areas..
Use also a good recovery , sk8witski 14.6 latest one ...
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Thanks! I went back and tried re-doing this step and it helped.
A related question: I use Apex Launcher and have a desktop customized with shortcuts to most used apps and contacts.
When I am flashing a NEW ROM (not restoring) - what is the best way to restore the desktop and shortcuts without having to manually redo it for each new ROM I try? This is definitely the biggest barrier for me in testing new ROMs as it takes a lot of work to redo each time and, without redoing it, its hard to simulate the same usage and experience when I move to something new.
If I just restore Apex with Titanium after flashing, often all the links/shortcuts/widgets are broken and need to be redone. Is there an order with which I need to reload/restore things? Is there a better way to backup and restore Apex settings so that they will come back and properly link to the underlying contacts and apps on a new ROM?
Thoughts?
Isn't there an option within the Apex settings to save your current configuration, or backup data, or something like that? Check there and try that.
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Yes now I see that. I had been backing up via Titanium and restoring Apex using "restore App + Data".
I will play around with those, see what works or doesnt and report back in case its helpful to others.
Thanks.