Hi folks. Got a question that I cant seem to find a definitive answer.
I am thinking of upgrading my 1.48 ROM to 1.66. I dont care to install all my stuff afterwards though. So, if I do a backup with Sprite, flash the phone to a new HTC ROM, will I have to reinstall everything or can I just do a restore with Sprite? And, if I do a restore, how does it "reinstall" all of my apps without changing the ROM back to the old one?
Thanks in advance.
Also, if I upgrade the ROM, and then later do a reset by holding the volume button while hitting the power button, will it hard rest to the factory 1.48 ROM, or the new 1.66 ROM?
Anybody have an answer?
Hello,i don't use sprite backup,but with spb backup , it's possible . Maybe it's similar with sprite . however i prefer ,after flashing, install manually all the software ...
After some more searching, the answer is yes, you can restore after upgrading your ROM. And, they have an HTC special for 19.95 if anybody needs to buy Sprite Backup. It has worked very well for me.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup-htc-special
I use Sprite and have on my last two phones.
It does a great job on back-up/restore on the same ROM. Going to a new ROM it can work, but usually some problems. It all depends what you try to restore to the new ROM. Best to reinstall your apps. Good time to dump the stuff you do not really use anyway. Check the settings before each back-up and restore. You will need to re-enter your code and password after hard reset. Company up-graded with new version for no cost even after two years.
iarapilot said:
Also, if I upgrade the ROM, and then later do a reset by holding the volume button while hitting the power button, will it hard rest to the factory 1.48 ROM, or the new 1.66 ROM?
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If you update to 1.66 and then do a hard reset it will reset to 1.66.
Also I'd like to say that i don't like any backup software because the restore function is sometimes messy and i like to make a clean install of the software i use to get rid of leftovers picked from the backup.
I flash my phone 3 times a week maybe more. the only things i backup are:
"pim.vol" its in your device folder and contains all your contacts, tasks, calendar entries and call history. I use Resco explorer to just copy it to SD and restore it back to device.
"Favorite order" its in [HKCU\software\HTC\People\FavoriteOrder]
which i also backup with resco registry editor and contains the order that your favorite contacts appear in peoples tab. and
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iarapilot said:
Also, if I upgrade the ROM, and then later do a reset by holding the volume button while hitting the power button, will it hard rest to the factory 1.48 ROM, or the new 1.66 ROM?
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It will be 1.66...
I hope you read the help document come with sprite backup or look for information on sprite offical website first before you ask these questions. A more resonable way, right?
By the way, all three levels of "restore" will replace exsiting settings and files, be careful.
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Hi all, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with a tool for backup of the installed programs before update and restore them on the new ROM? I tried with Sprite Backup, but than I had to hard reset because the device hang after Splash screen. Such a tool would save a lot of time. Greetings!
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The reason you should NOT restore after a flash is that any backup program (Sprite, SPB included) must by its nature backup things like registry and datbase files.
If you restore then you will overwrite the information that the very clever cookers have spent all of their time fixing to make the ROM stable.
Equally backing up PIM data (contacts, calendar, tasks etc) using this type of program and then restoring can cause problems. If you can - sync with PC first and resync after the update. Then you are guarenteed compatibiliy.
If you must backup on the PPC then use programs like SMSBackup and ContactsBackup. These export and import the data rather than taking a copy.
I know it is a pain and takes a long while but I strongly recommend reinstalling after an update.
If anybody knows of a tool that can automate the installation of a number of CABs please please let me know.
chavdar said:
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with a tool for backup of the installed programs before update and restore them on the new ROM? I tried with Sprite Backup, but than I had to hard reset because the device hang after Splash screen. Such a tool would save a lot of time. Greetings!
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hi, i see many ppl here flashing their roms everytime an update comes out. my question is that are you guys reinstalling all programs and setting up all the settings everytime you flash the rom. or is there way to load all that to a newly flashed rom with sprite backup or sunny back with affecting the new rom settings itself. i recently instlaled nbd 9.1, but also want to try other roms, but hate the fact of reinstalling everything and inputting settings everytime i do this is a drag. anyone else doing this an easier way?.
i also wanna know too.
I install most of my programs on a storage card. So there all there. But I have to move a shortcut the the phone.
Yes i redo all my settings. O well. only takes 5-10 mins.
sirccchar said:
hi, i see many ppl here flashing their roms everytime an update comes out. my question is that are you guys reinstalling all programs and setting up all the settings everytime you flash the rom. or is there way to load all that to a newly flashed rom with sprite backup or sunny back with affecting the new rom settings itself. i recently instlaled nbd 9.1, but also want to try other roms, but hate the fact of reinstalling everything and inputting settings everytime i do this is a drag. anyone else doing this an easier way?.
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When you flash, you wipe everything, so yes, you have to set everything up again. NEVER (and I mean NEVER) take a full backup with Sprite, Sunny, Spb backup, or similar and restore from one rom to another rom. You will cause all sorts of problems as you will be changing registry settings and more.
For me, I have a folder on my SD card called Setup Files. In there are cabs and .reg files I've created for everything I use. After I flash, I go to that folder and start running the apps. IF you want to get real adventurous, you can create your own extended rom to run stuff for you. There are also some tools for running cabs for you too, but for me, I have it down to a known pattern (and it can change with each rom depending what comes in the custom rom) so I just do it by hand. From the time I start the process of flashing to a new custom rom, to the point where my phone is back to where it was before, is about 1.5 hours (sometimes closer to an hour). Yeah, its a pain, but for me its worth it to be able to try out some of these roms (and if all I'm going to do is test a rom, I just do a full Sprite backup, flash the rom to test, then flash back to the original rom and then do a restore).
sirccchar said:
hi, i see many ppl here flashing their roms everytime an update comes out. my question is that are you guys reinstalling all programs and setting up all the settings everytime you flash the rom. or is there way to load all that to a newly flashed rom with sprite backup or sunny back with affecting the new rom settings itself. i recently instlaled nbd 9.1, but also want to try other roms, but hate the fact of reinstalling everything and inputting settings everytime i do this is a drag. anyone else doing this an easier way?.
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Unfortunately, yes you have to re-install everything and reconfigure all of your settings every time. The only shortcut to this would be to install programs to the storage card and create shortcuts to the programs in the start menu folder but even that takes about a minute per shortcut so you might as well just re-install them.
dharvey4651 said:
Unfortunately, yes you have to re-install everything and reconfigure all of your settings every time. The only shortcut to this would be to install programs to the storage card and create shortcuts to the programs in the start menu folder but even that takes about a minute per shortcut so you might as well just re-install them.
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One danger here. Some programs require registry settings to be present for them to work properly. Just creating a shortcut to point to an old install may not work for all programs (and can cause weird things to happen since registry entries are missing). Some programs see the registry entries aren't there and create default ones. But a lot don't.
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One danger here. Some programs require registry settings to be present for them to work properly. Just creating a shortcut to point to an old install may not work for all programs (and can cause weird things to happen since registry entries are missing). Some programs see the registry entries aren't there and create default ones. But a lot don't.
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Oh yeah that's a good point. I completely forgot about that. Well, that's why I always just re-install everything... lol
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Ok, I just got my replacement Tilt and now I have to send it back because it has hardware issues. I was wanting to just save everything I have on there so that I don't have to set everything back up again when I get my new one. (I'm not using the default ROM)
Should I follow the Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial or is there a quicker way to make a backup so that I can re-install it all. I couldn't find anything else, but I didn't think it would hurt to ask.
Thanks
i'm going to go ahead and not insult you, noob. Had you done a google search for "ppc backup" you might have found software such as sprite backup. I personally use it and i like it. I think it was included in some ROM or other.
brynwall said:
Ok, I just got my replacement Tilt and now I have to send it back because it has hardware issues. I was wanting to just save everything I have on there so that I don't have to set everything back up again when I get my new one. (I'm not using the default ROM)
Should I follow the Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial or is there a quicker way to make a backup so that I can re-install it all. I couldn't find anything else, but I didn't think it would hurt to ask.
Thanks
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Just make sure you install the same ROM as your current Tilt on the new device. Use Sprite Backup as the previous poster suggested and do a backup to SD Card and then restore. Create an .exe of the backup so you don't have to install Sprite backup to restore.
I use Sprite Backup and it works well for me. Saves a lot of time and effort. Just remember to use the same ROM.
Thanks guys, one last question - does this also save the programs I've installed (IE HTC Home Customizer, w/ all of the downloaded info?)
Yes it does.
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Just make sure you install the same ROM as your current Tilt on the new device. Use Sprite Backup as the previous poster suggested and do a backup to SD Card and then restore. Create an .exe of the backup so you don't have to install Sprite backup to restore.
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Actually, I restored a WM6 backup in WM6.1 (upgrading because of the drivers) Sprite backup has a warning, etc. I just restored everything, except the Windows folder and I was fine. Sort of. Some things were broken, so I've been spending some time reinstalling cabs.
Hi!
Im looking for a software that will backup everything before I install a new room. I would like to save the settings etc.
cheers!
Ok there are a lot of options depending on the amount of time you want to spend either before or after upgrading (or both), this one SASHIMI http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538513 will do everything (well it sure looks like it anyway!) but seems very complicated to setup.
There is also SPB Backup & Sprite backup which I believe do a good job.
I haven't used any of these, I nearly used SASHIMI, but wasn't prepared to spend the time setting it up.
For me I use PIMBackup (search) which does a fairly good job for the time you put into it, I then backup other programs manually, for me that means Voice dialing, single file reg settings (make as I edited them to start with), plus then anything else I can think of.
You get out of the process what you put in, I decided I didn't want to spend ages preparing and would sort out reconfiguring my device manually after.
Backing up from one ROM and restoring onto another has the potential to cause you problems.
Some backup software (like Sprite) has different restore levels available depending on whether you're restoring to the same ROM, a different ROM or a different device, but I've never had much success with any of them.
The general recommendation appears to be a clean install from scratch, and use backups only for restoring to the same ROM in the event of an emergency.
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I had the same problem. I wanted to try another rom, but before I wanted to backup all personal settings and programs. Therefore I've dumped my ROM completely with Radio and then made a complete backup with SPB Backup.
After that I was able to flash other Roms and restore my own whenever I want.
Is there any such software thats is easy to use to backup the ROM before trying another. Got a T-Mobile Compact V but don't know where to get the stock ROM as a backup so I can flash some of the new ROM's avaliable.
For me pim backup does the job great. Quickly and easily saves contacts, messages, emails, appointments etc.
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Is there any such software thats is easy to use to backup the ROM before trying another. Got a T-Mobile Compact V but don't know where to get the stock ROM as a backup so I can flash some of the new ROM's avaliable.
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To backup your ROM (not the Radio unfortunately), you can use DumpMyPhone.
Then with the tool RebuildROM you can create a flashable version of your original ROM.
This is only to backup your ROM. It's not for your applications and not for the Radio or the SPL.
hello,
I asked in some other treaths also but no 1 could give me a ''good'' answer, I have a question about SPB Backup.
If you have made a backup from a cooked ROM for example Artemis 12.0 and you go to Artemis 14.0 can you use the backup from 12.0 also for 14.0?
or isnt that posible?
Already many thx
zeijlertje1 said:
hello,
I asked in some other treaths also but no 1 could give me a ''good'' answer, I have a question about SPB Backup.
If you have made a backup from a cooked ROM for example Artemis 12.0 and you go to Artemis 14.0 can you use the backup from 12.0 also for 14.0?
or isnt that posible?
Already many thx
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It is possible with spb backup to apply any backup to any new ROM, it has a feature called "ROM upgrade mode"..........
BUT..I wouldn't advise to apply a previous system backup to a new ROM, sometimes it will be ok but, with many ROMs containing Many updated packages and applications it mostly causes more problems than it is worth!
However! SPB also has a custom restore feature which will allow you to restore PIM data or emails or documents or System data and a combination of any of these.
I am just looking at the program now and it seems that you can customise the back-up of whatever files you want to include, In fact ive never noticed how much you can choose before now! you are able to basically tick or un tick any file or folder within the rom, and include the registry or not, but you can only back up and restore the entire registry not parts of it which is a shame.
My advice is to try it out, the program has a very good full program trial period of about 6 backup and restore operations without a time limit so you have plenty of time to try all its functions.
I hope this is helpful to you
realy much thx for your answer
I dotn have the trail but got also the key so i can use it as many as I want
I just will make a backup then before I go run it will tell later if it worked
zeijlertje1 said:
realy much thx for your answer
I dotn have the trail but got also the key so i can use it as many as I want
I just will make a backup then before I go run it will tell later if it worked
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I've been using SPB backup for a long time and learned that it's not a good idea to do a full restore. If you're upgrading from an old to new rom as you mentioned I recommend to do a "Customize" restore and restore everything EXCEPT for PIM data, Emails and System Data. If you restore PIM Data and Emails you'll end up with duplicate contacts and email once you sync with Windows Live. And if you restore System Data you may end up importing registry bugs that were fixed in the new rom. For importing PIM Data only I'd stick with PIM Backup as I use that soley for importing my calendar entries.
zeijlertje1 said:
hello,
I asked in some other treaths also but no 1 could give me a ''good'' answer, I have a question about SPB Backup.
If you have made a backup from a cooked ROM for example Artemis 12.0 and you go to Artemis 14.0 can you use the backup from 12.0 also for 14.0?
or isnt that posible?
Already many thx
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No, what will happen is that SPB backup will ask you if you want to go into force ROM upgrade mode, and it will try to downgrade the ROM to the same as your backup, which will cause errors and force you to have to do Task 29. Trust me I learned this the hard way.