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I am using my Xda neo (flashed with traditional chinese version ROM, version 5.1.195(build 14847.2.0.0).
I believe I am using AKU2 and am wondering if this is the right time to upgrade to AKU3?
I have some questions:
1. What is "G3", "G4"? How can I know which one my Xda neo is?
2. I saw "AKU3 rom" with many different "'pool size". What they mean?
3. Any complete one-stop AKU3 package/procedures which I can just download and follow, in order to upgrade my Xda neo to AKU3?
Any BAD effect for AKU3 has been known on Xda neo so far?
Thanks
When your phone starts up you can see IPL and SPL at the boot screen, if it ends with .0001 then you have a G4 and when it does not you probably have a G3. Example: 2.15.0001 = G4
You cannot put a rom for G3 on a G4 and vice versa, it will brick your phone.
And I can't really comment which ROM is better since I'm still searching for a good ROM myself The AKU 3.2 seems to have some buggies, although the AKU 2.3 seems to be quite stable (reading from other people their comments).
As for pool size, I quote:
The large the paging pool is, the more code pages can present in RAM simultaneously -> the less loads from slow ROM -> the faster the device is.
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It seems they come with all different pool sizes. My guess is they cost some memory to gain some speed. But I have also read some people had some problems with the bigger pool size. So I guess you might wanna do a search for that.
And as for your question 3. I'm still trying to figure that out myself.
I know I have a G4 device, the IPL/SPL = 2.10.0001 but still I'm not quite sure which version is the best to use. e.g. the pdamobiz version says it's for 2.15.0001, it's for G4 but does that work on my device? I have no idea lol
And it also seems the Wiki isn't fully complete in that perspective. Once I know more I surely will try to update the wiki.
G4 roms on G3 device..?
Quote: Since HTC issued new IPL/SPL version 2.xx.0001, all tools that we use to cook the customize rom to be a single nk.nbf file can not be used because nk.nbf structure are different from the previous version. We were trying to hard to solve the problem. Futunately, we found the new method that save and convenince, because it will not touch with bootloader. Just active sync prophet with pc then run UPGRADE_ROM.bat.
This method can be used with any version of IPL/SPL of SPV M600, Qtek S200, i-mate JAMin, Dopod 818 Pro, XDA neo. Need not to unlock CID.
This is from the PDAmobiz thread, and if I get it right it says that you can install any rom (G3 or G4) on both G3 and G4 devices, if you just follow their instructions..
Is this true? Cause im thinking about trying their rom on my G3 device..
Can you upgrade a G3 to a G4 bootloader?
Thanks
Well, that is what I'm trying to figure out too It says so on their website although some confirmation about that might be nice.
And the filename of that ROM says it's for 2.15.0001. But I have no idea they named it like that to show it's for G4's or it's only for 2.15.0001 if you know what I mean.
And no, you cannot upgrade G3 to G4 bootloader as far as I know.
It would be really nice to know..
Im tried the "16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe" ROM and it was really nice and fast.. Unfortunately it turned itself off in the middle of the night after just 2 days, and I can't afford to loose an important call (from work or whatever)..
Therefore im looking for a stable and still fast ROM that will work on my G3..
Just trying to speed things up...
I agree with the sentiments of Reef exactly. I am using the official I-mate ROM for my G3 Jamin. I would love to increase the speed of my device and decrease boot time from a soft reset. The 3.2 ROMs are tempting, but clearly have some showstopper problems. I was about to download and flash the 16MB AKU2.3 rom, but reading this thread stopped me. I am on call and rely on my phone 24/7.
I guess I have the same questions as Reef: Is there a rock-stable, fast 2.3 ROM with the paging file modification out there?
Is I-mate ever going to release an "official" upgraded ROM?
Does anyone have some more feedback on the cooked ROMs they're using?
Alan
At the moment I'm running AKU 2.3 with Radio ROM 2.30.21, G4 Device. And I must say it's very stable. Didn't even have to reset device yet.
I'm using: "PDAMobiz Editon Upgrade Rom for SPL 2.15.0001 v2307 - 16MB" from PDAMobiz.
Did try the AKU3 but I have to try to get it to work savely on my device, so for the moment I would say "no" to AKU3 for the Prophet...
Will test it for a week or so, will keep you all posted
By the way, as for the speed it's just slightly faster than my HTC Wizard with AKU3.2 both @ 240MHz But that could also be because of all the tweaks made to my Porphet. Will get back on this
Hello - This forum is a great resource; unfortunately the wiki portion isn't quite ready yet...
I've done a forum search on this topic (using the "search" function), but it wasn't very useful. Google was more helpful - I've learned that apparently G3 or G4 has to do with the kind of flash memory used on a HTC Prophet.
How do I tell if my device uses G3 or G4 flash memory?
I just picked up a Dopod 818 Pro last week. It was brand new in the store, but I'm not sure when it was actually produced. The case features the newer, easier to read style Dopod logo (as opposed to the logo that looked like a bunch of circles with some dots above or below).
It seems to have the most basic/early ROM version there is - 1.0.13.21 WWE.
The ExtROM version is: 1.00.13.102. The ROM date is 11/24/05.
From what I'm reading here, I think my device would benefit greatly from a firmware upgrade.
To do that, I need to know - is this a G4 or G3 device? Do I need to CID unlock this device in order to put new firmware on it?
Thanks for your help and input.
-Dan
Hi Dan, if your SPL ends in .000 you have a G3 chip, if it ends .001 then you have G4. softreset you device to see the IPL and SPL version.
You will need to CID unlock your device before changing you ROM.
austin.tovey said:
You will need to CID unlock your device before changing you ROM.
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as i know, you don't have to CID unlock your device. You only have to change the Romupdateulility.exe (extract the downloaded .EXE file with winrar) with this file
ftp://[email protected]/Up...AKU2.3_LvsW_edition/ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe
Thanks a lot, everyone!
I have my Dopod up and running the latest 2.151327 firmware now!
The help is much appreciated.
Take it easy,
- Dan
Guys, just about to sell my Magician for ProphIt
Please advise what's the fuss about G3 and G4, is G4 better than G3. I mean, if other things are the same, what would you choose G3 or G4? what other advantages and disadvantages?
Thanks
Hy...I have a G4 model, Qtek s200, and i was wondering if I will install a wm6 version, and if I will not be satisfied, can i downgrade to wm5 back?
I think so... Even if have CID locked, but i'm not quite sure. Anyone correct me if i'm wrong please!!
Hi:
I have one HK 818pro G4 model and have tried wm6.0 and downgrade to wm5.0,
it's no problem.
palo
Yeah, it's no problem to downgrade! I played yesterday with some different WM5 ROM's (Orange UK, Qtek and O2) on my G4 XDA Neo and had no prpoblems at all time!
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so, i don't have to follow some specials steps...the normal way, no?
Yes, just follow the normal steps to do it. By the way, which WM6 rom you will try?! Looks like the smart1 clear it's good.
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first of all: i want to install a wm6 version, but i don't know which one ... I have G4 model..can you give me an advice? also, i want without bugs if i can (that's the first reason that i didn't try yet)... i mean, to connect on wap, to work fine the new wm6...if you know what is the "perfect" version to install on my device, i am waiting your opinion
There is no "perfect" WM6 yet but the SMART1 WM6 Rom (clear) it's quite good... in this thread they talk about it and is litle bugs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295225
I tried Smart1's WM6 ROM and successfully downgraded it to WM5 (I-mate) portuguese ROM by just using the normal procedure.
The problem is it doesn't work properly with Windows Vista. Don't try to upgrade to WM6 on Vista as it wont work properly!
Cheerz!
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so your advice is to wait another version more reliable of wm6? i supouse that wm6 = win vista isn't it?
Just a question about downgrading - I read somewhere in the forum that it is important NOT to downgrade to a lower IPL or SPL because it will brick the device. is it so?
Hi,
Would like to know too how to downgrade without risking to brick my device...
I have a G4 that I upgraded to WM6 recently (SMART clear rom).
I liked WM6 but I have to remove it because it is only compatible with ActiveCrap 4.5, which doesn't support outlook 2000 anymore (version used at my office) .
my IPL/SPL : 2.10.0001
I would like to downgrade to last AKU 3.3 (couldn't backup my wm5 rom since my prophet is CID locked). Can I downgrade to AKU 3.3 safely?
Thank you very much
Yes, you can do it safely! My Neo is a G4 too and I switched often between smart1 clear WM6, the official O2 update, ASerg's 3.3.12 US nad the Qtek 2.20 with no problems!
animelover said:
Yeah, it's no problem to downgrade! I played yesterday with some different WM5 ROM's (Orange UK, Qtek and O2) on my G4 XDA Neo and had no prpoblems at all time!
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HI I am using I-mate jasjar and upgrade to Wm 6. After that there is no video call option on that. Now I want to downgrade to WM 5. How can I do this? Where can I download WM 5? Please send all the details to my email [email protected].
Thanks
As nobody has posted this information here before: there're some news in the Prophet upgrading scene
IPL/SPL 3.08 update is out (adapted from the official t-mobile Germany AKU3.3 for HTC Charmer, thanks to our friends from 4pda.ru).
Be attended that for the moment there're no downgrading experiences to the AKU2.2!
[edit 1] Some users reported that it definetly works for G3 devices.
So if you upgrade your device to IPL/SPL 3.08 you will possibly not be able to go back to your original IPL/SPL (warranty!). Test it on your own risk!
[edit 2] Some users reported that it works for G3 devices. Details will follow.
Since there're different upgrade IPL/SPL ROM's available you've exactly to know which device you're owned (G3 or G4).
The new radio rom is for both, G3 and G4.
Also a new radio ROM 2.69.21 is available (don't wonder about italian Wizard's update utility). All user experiences are welcome
HTC Prophet IPL/SPL 3.08 G3 only!
HTC Prophet IPL/SPL 3.08 G4 only! (actually there're some problems with this package , please use the next one)
Repacked SPL update working solution for G4
HTC Prophet radio ROM 2.69.21 G3 and G4
What kind of problems/features is IPL/SPL related to?
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What kind of problems/features is IPL/SPL related to?
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Only HTC can answer this question
It's like a BIOS update for your PC.
redandr said:
Only HTC can answer this question
It's like a BIOS update for your PC.
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Is there any reason for a Prophet user to upgrade to the new one?
redandr said:
Be attended that for the moment there're no downgrading experiences to the AKU2.2!
So if you upgrade your device to IPL/SPL 3.08 you will possibly not be able to go back to your original IPL/SPL (warranty!). Test it on your own risk!
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Is this really true?
have any tried?
It is not possible to downgrade ipl/spl at all.
I don't understand the confusion here
does it only work with aku 3.3 roms or it can work with the latest Qtek official rom (aku 2.2)?
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It is not possible to downgrade ipl/spl at all.
I don't understand the confusion here
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There's no question about possibility to downgrade ipl/spl, there's a question about possibility to install an earlier AKU on such upgraded device, for example 220734_NoVID (AKU2.2).
redandr said:
There's no question about possibility to downgrade ipl/spl, there's a question about possibility to install an earlier AKU on such upgraded device, for example 220734_NoVID (AKU2.2).
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I want to know, too.
If I upgrade to IPL/SPL 3.08, can I install 2.20 QTEK ROM on it?
THX it doesnt work on my G4!!
Now i reburn old OS to bring the system up and running! He enter only the Bootloader.
[edit] i debug now!!
[edit 2] ok both doesnt work on a German S200 G4 (possible -> CID Lock make the problem!! or the firmware writer)
IPL/SPL Update hung at 2% and Radio Update too ... after them i must reburn the 02.61.21 Radio Rom
Note to every body ... dont use this upgrades!
[edit 3] i change now the firmware writer and test again!
[edit 4] ... redandr ... you use the wrong firmware writer! extract with winrar the Prophet_G3_G4_RadioRom_v2.61.21.exe in a directory. then i extract the nk.nbf file from your rom version ... then i put them over the v2.61.21 version and flash again ... then it works ... now i recompile the update and test ipl/spl update. if i am finish i upload a working version!!!
Change Log:
I have change the Firmware Writer!!
redandr use "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" it hungs after 2%
i use the Firmware Writer from last 2.61.21 "newromupdateutility_noid.exe"
Then it works ... tested on two German S200 G4
HTC Prophet radio ROM 2.69.21 G3 and G4 NetrunnerAT
IPL/SPL doesnt work ... hung on 2% its a writer problem
Can somebody test it? Both Radio ROMs and tell use ... what version works?
NetrunnerAT, thank you for sharing your experiences.
For me Wizard's update utility worked without problems (for radio rom upgrade), didn't try to change ipl/spl (not necessary for me).
Radio Rom 2.69.21 works fine for me on my Qtek S200 G3... I used the upgrade from the first post... did not try the ipl/spl yet because I am not sure if need it...
so far, radio rom 2.69.21 is very good... I had some problem with 2.47 and 2.61 (phone not ready...)... but with this one, it seems to be ok...
Hello, sorry for my inexperience, so that it serves to update the IPL/SPL 3.08?. The fact is that really not so that it serves this update. That of the already this updated radio and working perfectly, even would say that the coverage gsm has improved.
Thank you
Same here! ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe works without problems!
Working version also available at the XDA-Dev-FTP!
repack that works
SPL_3.08_Prophet_Updater_NVID_ONLY_G4 only for G4
don't have time to test right now but the first splash screen seems to take longer device boots up though normally
ipl not included as it wasn't in the first package
this is only for G4
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cr0ssy said:
repack that works
http://rapidshare.com/files/24826792/SPL_3.08_Prophet_Updater_NVID.rar
don't have time to test right now but the first splash screen seems to take longer device boots up though normally
ipl not included as it wasn't in the first package
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Great! It works again! I also had the problem of sticking at 2%.
@relandr
Maybe you can be so kind to update your first post?
Since it really causing problems when people want to upgrade to SPL 3.08
cr0ssy said:
repack that works
http://rapidshare.com/files/24826792/SPL_3.08_Prophet_Updater_NVID.rar
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Is this for G3 or G4?
ipl not included as it wasn't in the first package
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Which package do you mean, G3 or G4?
redandr said:
Is this for G3 or G4?
Which package do you mean, G3 or G4?
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Mine is a G4 and it worked with cr0ssy's file
redandr said:
Is this for G3 or G4?
Which package do you mean, G3 or G4?
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I think it for G4
can I upgrade ipl and spl without any problems?
hi i have hts 8125.
IPL and SPL both are 2.25.
the phone is unlocked. just wonderind as it is a G3 phone can i upgrade to any available wm6 rom for wizard ? or are there any specific on for G3 phones ??
thank you
read the wiki, I can answer you here that you have a G3 phone but I don't want you to flash your phone without reading the stuff. cheers.