I am using my Xda neo (flashed with traditional chinese version ROM, version 5.1.195(build 14847.2.0.0).
I believe I am using AKU2 and am wondering if this is the right time to upgrade to AKU3?
I have some questions:
1. What is "G3", "G4"? How can I know which one my Xda neo is?
2. I saw "AKU3 rom" with many different "'pool size". What they mean?
3. Any complete one-stop AKU3 package/procedures which I can just download and follow, in order to upgrade my Xda neo to AKU3?
Any BAD effect for AKU3 has been known on Xda neo so far?
Thanks
When your phone starts up you can see IPL and SPL at the boot screen, if it ends with .0001 then you have a G4 and when it does not you probably have a G3. Example: 2.15.0001 = G4
You cannot put a rom for G3 on a G4 and vice versa, it will brick your phone.
And I can't really comment which ROM is better since I'm still searching for a good ROM myself The AKU 3.2 seems to have some buggies, although the AKU 2.3 seems to be quite stable (reading from other people their comments).
As for pool size, I quote:
The large the paging pool is, the more code pages can present in RAM simultaneously -> the less loads from slow ROM -> the faster the device is.
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It seems they come with all different pool sizes. My guess is they cost some memory to gain some speed. But I have also read some people had some problems with the bigger pool size. So I guess you might wanna do a search for that.
And as for your question 3. I'm still trying to figure that out myself.
I know I have a G4 device, the IPL/SPL = 2.10.0001 but still I'm not quite sure which version is the best to use. e.g. the pdamobiz version says it's for 2.15.0001, it's for G4 but does that work on my device? I have no idea lol
And it also seems the Wiki isn't fully complete in that perspective. Once I know more I surely will try to update the wiki.
G4 roms on G3 device..?
Quote: Since HTC issued new IPL/SPL version 2.xx.0001, all tools that we use to cook the customize rom to be a single nk.nbf file can not be used because nk.nbf structure are different from the previous version. We were trying to hard to solve the problem. Futunately, we found the new method that save and convenince, because it will not touch with bootloader. Just active sync prophet with pc then run UPGRADE_ROM.bat.
This method can be used with any version of IPL/SPL of SPV M600, Qtek S200, i-mate JAMin, Dopod 818 Pro, XDA neo. Need not to unlock CID.
This is from the PDAmobiz thread, and if I get it right it says that you can install any rom (G3 or G4) on both G3 and G4 devices, if you just follow their instructions..
Is this true? Cause im thinking about trying their rom on my G3 device..
Can you upgrade a G3 to a G4 bootloader?
Thanks
Well, that is what I'm trying to figure out too It says so on their website although some confirmation about that might be nice.
And the filename of that ROM says it's for 2.15.0001. But I have no idea they named it like that to show it's for G4's or it's only for 2.15.0001 if you know what I mean.
And no, you cannot upgrade G3 to G4 bootloader as far as I know.
It would be really nice to know..
Im tried the "16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe" ROM and it was really nice and fast.. Unfortunately it turned itself off in the middle of the night after just 2 days, and I can't afford to loose an important call (from work or whatever)..
Therefore im looking for a stable and still fast ROM that will work on my G3..
Just trying to speed things up...
I agree with the sentiments of Reef exactly. I am using the official I-mate ROM for my G3 Jamin. I would love to increase the speed of my device and decrease boot time from a soft reset. The 3.2 ROMs are tempting, but clearly have some showstopper problems. I was about to download and flash the 16MB AKU2.3 rom, but reading this thread stopped me. I am on call and rely on my phone 24/7.
I guess I have the same questions as Reef: Is there a rock-stable, fast 2.3 ROM with the paging file modification out there?
Is I-mate ever going to release an "official" upgraded ROM?
Does anyone have some more feedback on the cooked ROMs they're using?
Alan
At the moment I'm running AKU 2.3 with Radio ROM 2.30.21, G4 Device. And I must say it's very stable. Didn't even have to reset device yet.
I'm using: "PDAMobiz Editon Upgrade Rom for SPL 2.15.0001 v2307 - 16MB" from PDAMobiz.
Did try the AKU3 but I have to try to get it to work savely on my device, so for the moment I would say "no" to AKU3 for the Prophet...
Will test it for a week or so, will keep you all posted
By the way, as for the speed it's just slightly faster than my HTC Wizard with AKU3.2 both @ 240MHz But that could also be because of all the tweaks made to my Porphet. Will get back on this
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May I ask what is the best/newst ROM to use on a QTEK S200? Its hard to find out here what is new, newer or older...
purp said:
May I ask what is the best/newst ROM to use on a QTEK S200? Its hard to find out here what is new, newer or older...
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Yes, that's what I'm wondering too, can someone please tell us what's the best english rom out for this phone?
I guess we all are on same boat, trying to find the best available ROM for prophet after WWE offcial ROM as its been quite a while for offcial ROM upgrade for this device.
Check the FTP
There are several cooked ROMS avail. There are several 2.3 versions, and the 3.2 Beta is also out. Do a search. As for which is the best, it depends entirely on you. What I do is READ & READ, until I get an overall sense which is the fastest, most stable etc. In the end, what many people say is best for them, may not be good for you.
But like you, I've been usin the Dopod official ROM since May, and feel it's time to inject new life into my device.
If anyone care to give a short review of the ROMs they've tried in this thread (or make a new one), it'll definitely help a lot of people...
If you love aku2.0 customized rom in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269313, I bet you like this AKU2.3 customized rom.
ftp:/ /xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Prophet/Prophet-roms/RUU_Prophet_G3_2151327_AKU23_023021_P12MB_Dopod_PDAMobiz_v103.rar
(To download above link, copy url to your browser, delete space between ftp:/ /)
Software listed pictures check at http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60019
It's AKU2.3 with extended rom as same as v.1.02, fast and stable.
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But if you would like lots of application, check at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277474 (MMS missing, but can be get in that thread)
See the pictures here http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68751
You may choose 8mb or 12mb (less problem from users feed back).
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
I am using 4PDA/Frog's 2.3 ROM from the FTP site. Its fast and stable. The problem I had with the PDAMobiz rom was its full of stuff and made to device slow, also it reset sometimes on its own. Also the backlight would come on for no reason.
I have tryed all the ROM's from the FTP site and this is the best IMHO.
File name :
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
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I am using 4PDA/Frog's 2.3 ROM from the FTP site. Its fast and stable. The problem I had with the PDAMobiz rom was its full of stuff and made to device slow, also it reset sometimes on its own. Also the backlight would come on for no reason.
I have tryed all the ROM's from the FTP site and this is the best IMHO.
File name :
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
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hi,
is this rom also for a german XDA Neo with SPL 2.xx.001?
Can i delete the files in the extended Rom after install the Rom?
thanks
John
John-Wu said:
hi,
is this rom also for a german XDA Neo with SPL 2.xx.001?
Can i delete the files in the extended Rom after install the Rom?
thanks
John
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I guess this ROM is for G3 device.Could you please confirm austin ?
I also want to know wich rom is the best for me. Ive got a G4 chip. Currently running WWE 2.15.13.27. IPL 2.15.0001
SPL 2.15.0001
Thanks!
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe is G3 only i think. i.e. SPL 2.15.0000
austin.tovey said:
16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe is G3 only i think. i.e. SPL 2.15.0000
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hello,
is it possible to update an G4 Device by copy the nk.nbf file from the above package to a "G4 Rom" and replace the existing nk.nbf?
For example in the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID Rom?
John
John-Wu said:
hello,
is it possible to update an G4 Device by copy the nk.nbf file from the above package to a "G4 Rom" and replace the existing nk.nbf?
For example in the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID Rom?
John
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If you do not really know about it, don't try. Because it might be a possibility to break you prophet, if that nk.nbf has spl 2.xx.0000 inside.
Use itsme pdocwrite to upgrade to G4 by replacing ru.nb with your new os rom. (you have to use command "typho5.exe -x -v nk.nbf" at dos prompt to extract os-rom, check at ftp for typho5.exe tools)
Upgrade utility is in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277474 (look for upgrade for G4)
someone could make about the Roms a sticky thread here. Which is aswell updated
G3 Roms (AKU):
Link
Link
G4 Roms (AKU):
Link
Link
or something link that. will help to find the actuall roms for the right devices better....
Best ROM for Prophet (M600?)
well I can't really answer that can I but I can report the following.
I started off with the Orange oem ROM. Quickly I decided I wanted to get rid of this as I'm not with Orange (and I'm an incessant tinkerer), so I went for the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID.
My phone was unlocked using the IMEI-CHECK service (so not sure what they unlocked exactly but it seems happy for me to re-flash it).
I ran with this ROM for maybe 2 months- no real problems BUT I really missed the voice speed dial.
A couple of days back I went for the 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
This seems to be stable so far, a "bit" more responsive maybe, but with the unexpected bonus of having voice speed dial again!!! Yes, this ROM has voice speed dial - hoorah.
So for any of you old Orange M600 users who upgraded but lost the voice speed dial this could be for you.
I've not spotted any major problems at all. The only odd thing was that the COMM Manager hard key was not bound. A 2 sec job to fix that.
Now I did do a soft reset before letting the hard reset process finish with the customisations. No idea what happens there in this case.
I <believe> my phone is G3?? The IPL is 0000 - is that correct?? I read and checked everything I could and it seems to have turned out OK.......
Is there any way that someone could do up a quick, idiot proof tute on how to update your rom on a G4 device?
Also, is this AKU2.3 rom 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe in russian or english? The website link which shows the AKU2.0 version is all in russian...
Thanks guys (from another n00b)
Hello - This forum is a great resource; unfortunately the wiki portion isn't quite ready yet...
I've done a forum search on this topic (using the "search" function), but it wasn't very useful. Google was more helpful - I've learned that apparently G3 or G4 has to do with the kind of flash memory used on a HTC Prophet.
How do I tell if my device uses G3 or G4 flash memory?
I just picked up a Dopod 818 Pro last week. It was brand new in the store, but I'm not sure when it was actually produced. The case features the newer, easier to read style Dopod logo (as opposed to the logo that looked like a bunch of circles with some dots above or below).
It seems to have the most basic/early ROM version there is - 1.0.13.21 WWE.
The ExtROM version is: 1.00.13.102. The ROM date is 11/24/05.
From what I'm reading here, I think my device would benefit greatly from a firmware upgrade.
To do that, I need to know - is this a G4 or G3 device? Do I need to CID unlock this device in order to put new firmware on it?
Thanks for your help and input.
-Dan
Hi Dan, if your SPL ends in .000 you have a G3 chip, if it ends .001 then you have G4. softreset you device to see the IPL and SPL version.
You will need to CID unlock your device before changing you ROM.
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You will need to CID unlock your device before changing you ROM.
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as i know, you don't have to CID unlock your device. You only have to change the Romupdateulility.exe (extract the downloaded .EXE file with winrar) with this file
ftp://[email protected]/Up...AKU2.3_LvsW_edition/ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe
Thanks a lot, everyone!
I have my Dopod up and running the latest 2.151327 firmware now!
The help is much appreciated.
Take it easy,
- Dan
Guys, just about to sell my Magician for ProphIt
Please advise what's the fuss about G3 and G4, is G4 better than G3. I mean, if other things are the same, what would you choose G3 or G4? what other advantages and disadvantages?
Thanks
Hi guys, I am a new on ths forum and with te prophet. After using a hima for 3 years, I bought a prophet today. Since I was at wm2005 aku 3.5 with my hima, I cannot use my pim.vol any more with my current rom version, which is
Rom version 2.9.7.24 WWE
Rom date 2/9/2006
Radio 02.07.20
Protocol 413.1.03
Extrom 2.9.7.106
This is all new for me and I am hoping that someone could post me or PM me some advice on newer roms and how to upgrade. I also found a version with G3 or G4. What is the difference and what do I need to use.
This device works different, but it look very nice.
Can I re-use some of my old (hima) applications on this machine?
Thanks very much in advance. I hope to have as much pleasure on this forum as I had on the hima forum!
1. you can get some of the old apps working on wm5 devices, but not all of them.
2. check your device for G3-G4 issue here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=prophet_g3g4_how
3. good thing if you have time to read this: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet
it will answer most of your questions on how to upgrade your ROM. read it three or four times: i'm not kidding - you may ruin your device if you miss something.
If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device? cause it seems kinda pointless to have to CID unlock the device (which involves FLASHING a completely new rom, overwriting the old), to open the backup feature at which point is useless since we've lost the original rom.
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If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Rom_Dump
why not? just download your original ROM from this site or official site of qtek, jamin or whatever your device is.
afaik you CID unlock the device to be able to flash different ROMs (for example, to flash jamin with qtek ROM) and to be able to return back to your original ROM.
Hi Guys, I own a Dopod 818Pro (G4). I have this problem now, It seems that my Prophet is running abit slow till I find it laggy. I am using the orginal ROM since day 1 I brought it. From the specification from Dopod webby, it tells me Flash ROM 128MB/SD RAM 64MB. Do I need to unlock the Flash ROM before I upgrade to the ROMs posted here. And also how do I go about it if I wanna flash a ROM to my Prophet. I read up many thread but all they say is about the ROM posted. I really hope someone can guide me into flashing a new ROM for my Prophet. Thanks a million guys.
Regards
Cal =)
go to smart1 wm6 side and follow his instruction...
good luck and good night...
dopod 818 pro
2.15
os 10.2.0.8 wwe
smart1 wm6v2
ahcal said:
Hi Guys, I own a Dopod 818Pro (G4). I have this problem now, It seems that my Prophet is running abit slow till I find it laggy. I am using the orginal ROM since day 1 I brought it. From the specification from Dopod webby, it tells me Flash ROM 128MB/SD RAM 64MB. Do I need to unlock the Flash ROM before I upgrade to the ROMs posted here. And also how do I go about it if I wanna flash a ROM to my Prophet. I read up many thread but all they say is about the ROM posted. I really hope someone can guide me into flashing a new ROM for my Prophet. Thanks a million guys.
Regards
Cal =)
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Read wiki.
Choose the ROM you'd like to use and read the instructions provided in the topic regarding that specific ROM (there's no need to unlock for upgrading most roms).
Don't start a new thread, just because you're too lazy reading the existing ones. Your question has been asked about a 1000 times before. Just use the (advanced) search function..
I would recommend the latest official ROM for the Prophets which were released by Qtek. It's based on WM5 and has the version 2.20. It's stable and fast and already has lots of bugs fixed. I dont recommend a WM6 upgrade for beginners yet. Before upgrading make sure you installed Active Sync and fully charged your device. Then just proceed as the upgrade program instructs you. Always keep in mind that flashing a ROM file not ditributed by your phone provider/company may result in a guarantee loss. Also be aware that flashing sometimes might totally destroy (brick) your phone.
Good luck and a nice welcome to the forum
I am noob in windows mobile I have just switched from nokia n73 to HTC S710. Some people think it was not a good idea but anyhow. 4 days back I tried to upgrade my cousins gene but after applying HSPL it was dead. I asked a lot of people in gene subform how recover, in the end a Rom chef told me if I had bought phone this year then there is no solution to it. So finally I had to take it to HTC service centre and they have asked me to check after 5 days.
Now I have bought Vox myself so learning from past experience I am asking you guys first. I have read wikki though.
1) Which is the fastest but most stable rom? (Which does not have bugs)
NEO ROM for Vox v0.9 [New XIP 20202]
Windows Mobile 6.1 v1.1
Or Hikey's Rom tell me the version.
or someother.
2) From my information given Which USPL should I use 1.16 or 1.34 or 1.35 and also can I use them or will they brick my phone?
My Device Info
Boot Loader
Vox
ONBL 1.34.0000 wifi
LG
Vox
SPL 1.34.0000
Vox IU
CPLD - 04
OS From about
Windows Mobile 6 Standard
CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
Radio Version 4.1.13.54_03_.10.90
RIL Version 2.002
Any help will be appreciated.
Regards,
Tipu
First you should decide whether you want WinMo 6.0 or 6.1. As far as I heard the ROMs with the new XIPs are faster. I would say the Neo ROMs are the fastest 6.0 ROMs. For 6.1 there isn't such a huge difference But my experience is that the 96 dpi ROMs are pretty fast, but they are by far not bug free. Otherwise you have to decide what software you need. Gonzo's ROM has everything in it, my Lite ROM is pretty much the same, just without some apps.
In the Wiki is a list of hopefully most ROMs.
For USPL the 1.16 is definately working, as it did for over a year now. I don't know if the newer ones have any advantages or not. If you go to the wiki and follow the guides carefully you should not brick your phone. Link is in my signature.
My SPL is 1.34.000 as I have seen from my bootloader information. So can I use 1.16.
Is Neo Rom .9 bug free, have you tried it also I have read few threads people saying Hikey's WM6.1 roms are stable but does not have his thread here. From my information given is stock rom for my current os available somewhere.
It is on the XDA-dev ftp. There are a couple of shipped ROMs.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Smartphone/Vox/ROMs/Shipped
ftp://[email protected]/Uploads/Smartphone/Vox/ROMs/Shipped/
Hikey Chinese ROM is the fastest. Try it and see its amazing speed...
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Hikey Chinese ROM is the fastest. Try it and see its amazing speed...
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Well not all speak chinese I am on WM 6.1 v1.0 by LeFab47 alias fireburned with new xip 20202. So far it is the best for me. I hope he gives a version without thirdpart applications.