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MDA compact II Games

Hi guys,
(I have searched for this and similar topics so my apologies if I'm duplicating)
Bought my Compact about a month ago with T-mobile UK and am only just opening my eyes to its possibilities!
Thanks for all the information on web n walk etc.... i'll be signing up tomorrow!
I have just been on pocketgear.com and have seen all the games a pocket PC can use..... so I downloaded a trial version of a poker game (as is fashionable these days it seems!), but once transferred to my phone it wouldn't work.
Got the error message '[game] is not a valid pocket PC application'
So I tried Bookworm... and got the same message.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it because I downloaded it from an American Website to an English phone?
Any (and I do mean any) help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I haven't tweaked my phone in any way or improved it at all, so any further hints and tips would be appreciated too!
Cheers
J

When you DL software for your device, make sure that you DL software that is designed for your device. If you DL Pocket PC 2003 Software, and you are using a Windows Mobile 5.0 device, the software may NOT work on your device - also, if you are using a older device, you need to be aware that some software is designed for certain types of processors - so if you are using a PDA with an ARM processor, you have to DL software that will run on an ARM processor - not software that is designed for a MIPS processor. The newest devices all use the same processor (as far as I know) - but if you DL older software to run on the newer device, you will have to use software that was originally designed for anARM procesor. This may seem a little complicated, but the best way to find out how this works, is to go to a software distro site (like Handango), and download the different versions of the same software, and then install them. Hope that helps!
Black-wolf

Well, I think it is just plain bad luck. I've downloaded and install.. quite a large amount of software/games to test on my MDACompact2 and most of the software that said to be meant for WinCE, WM2003, SE, etc works well with WM5. I can say, in my experience, the chances of getting one not working in WM5 is like. 20% or less. So, keep trying

Hi onemanfloats!
Did you download an exe file an copied it directly to the device?
If the download is an exe that means it is an installer and needs to be run on you PC while the device is synchronized. Most PPC programs are distributed this way.
Also programs for PPC some times come as cab files. Those you have to copy to your device and tap on them in the explorer so they will install.
As for processor type - don't worry, all devices sold today come with ARM, or ARM compatible (like OMAP) processors, and most of the new software supports only that type.
As for OS, I'm not sure if your device is running Windows Mobile 5 or Windows Mobile 2003, but as far as games and ordinary programs go, if it works on 2003 it usually works on 5 (2005).
The only problem is with some utilities which are very OS dependent.
Finally let me recommend you this site:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com
Tons of free stuff for you device.
Good luck.

ms should make pda's error msg
tell the user that it's a pc application they are trying to
run on the pda
tons of ppl get confused but this

The "not designed for" message on WM2003 only meant that the application perhaps didn't support screen rotation, and other resolutions than 240x320

It's a bit off topic, but the warning "This program may not display correctly..." pops up on every program whose installation cab supports OS lower the 4.21 (that's WM 2003se in plain English ).
According to MSDN that's because the OS assumes the program inside can't support VGA, screen rotation and square.
It's pretty stupid design since a lot of programs try to be backwards compatible, at least to WM 2003, and the message just scares users.
It's a good thing they got rid of it in WM5.

cheers guys,
just got back from a tiring weekend in snowdon and read your replies.
Will digest in the morning and see what I can do!
Thanks again for your help!

Wizard - What next?

I think the HTC Wizard is great and I love the ability to be able to extract and rebuild ROMs to my liking However I think it has peaked and the cracks are now beginning to show (IMO ). WM6 was only ever a test on this device and M$ & HTC have long stopped developing for it. The 'leaked' ROM (5.2.318) contained the most recent hardware drivers and have never been updated, however Windows Mobile 6 has moved on somewhat, which I feel is now leading to some compatibility issues - for me the most important are the integrated VoIP client & 'real' VPN (L2TP/IPSec and NOT PPTP). Plus the Wizard is now quite old - relatively poor camera compared to more recent PDA Phones, size - it's quite big, again compared to more recent offerings.
Unfortunately this is making me look at alternatives However I need certain key things:
1. Windows Mobile 6
2. WiFi 802.11G
3. Integrated VoIP must work and be stable
4. L2TP/IPSec VPN must work and be stable
5. Touch Screen & Pull-Out Keyboard
6. Camera 2MP or more
7. Bluetooth (for hands-free headset)
8. Slimmer/Smaller than the Wizard?
I would also really like the ability to extract and rebuild ROMs as I do with the Wizard.
Really I just want an updated Wizard that natively has WM6 and VoIP & L2TP/IPSec work....
What are the best options?
Andy
(I asked a similar question in the General forum, but I think I might get more responses on here from people who have already taken the plunge...)

try the hermes and or kaizer

ANTC said:
try the hermes and or kaizer
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Does it have all the features I listed?

ADB100 said:
Does it have all the features I listed?
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yes its a upgrade from the Wizard 3G, faster processer, stock WM6 ect..

Android on Prophet ?

does the current hardware support Android ?
If it does, anyone knows when we can expect an alpha release ?

nah, don't think so. If you've watched something on the video it seems that its gonna need quite a lot ram and video memory

I read that it has quite low hardware requirements and that most of the currently available devices have the capability to run android. So I hope that our beloved prophet will be running it, too.

I'm really waiting to see it on my Prophet
What about PDAVIET can he do it >?????

good idea
i hope prophet support

SDK available here!
Enjoy!!

Has anyone managed to run android on prophet yet? I've seen several reports of android running htc touch's around the tubes. Lets make this happen shall we, even is its unusable, just for the sake of saying, "look, that's android on my super prophet.punk."
thanks.

Haret seems to boot
It starts booting the kernel
Then fade to white
When pressing power button dump back in windows.
Seem to get quite somewhere, any people who like to try?
Used this files:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-file-for-automatic-and-easy-installation

The android kernel as released by Google doesn't have support for alot of the hardware devices in the prophet, including the OMAP850. Linwizard does, so the first stage of getting it to work will be getting the two kernels in sync.
That said, the prophet is below the minimum ram and rom specs for android so its unknown whether it will actually be able to run or not. I suppose one could try restricting the emulator and seeing how it runs with limited memory before jumping in to the kernel conversion.

eemmmmm.... seem like prophet hardware wont support for Android...

ANDROID 0.8 boots on prophet
Hi,
After trying a lot of zimage and android images with haret, i finaly found one that boots with prophet. It's a 0.8 ANDROID made for the HTC Wizard ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403015&page=4 ). It is really slow and really few hardware is supported but it's a good step to start a good port for our prophet.
Thanks to Patoche for his work on the wizard. Hope he will continue and some people join the projetct.

will definitely try

What is The Big Deal with WM6.5 ?

I have recently seen alot of ROMS for WM6.5 and they all look the same from the screenshots.... ugly!
I mean what is with all the HUGE text listed down the screen, am I the only one who thinks this is a stupid setup? What happened to the Start Menu and clean today setup?
Are people just updating to WM6.5 just 'cos its 6.5, or do you actually like the look of it? Please give your opinions on WM6.5, and more importantly what is the difference between WM6?
I am using WM6.1 on 2 of my devices as I like the Today Screen feel and the way everything is set out. I am contemplating putting 6.5 on a device just to test it out, is it really worth it? is it customizable to make the home screen not just BIG words down the screen? maybe a clock even lol.
thanks everyone for your opinions.

i think it looks great.

As long as you have good apps installed to cover nasty WM UI no matter if you have 6.1 or 6.5
I personally do not like the honeycomb, but I do like that the hole UI is more finger friendly
Let´s see the WM7!! hope they really impress us

I like it because its 6.5 that .4 of more awesome 1337ness!!!! lol.. I actually just like the better slightly larger menu buttons. the new start menu is neither here nor there for me.. I don't like titanium, it has potential, but till you can have more than one link on click per panel it is pretty lame to me.. seems to take more effort to get to my necessary apps with it than without it.. I have been using wad2 on my last few flashes. My device is i910 Omnia, with the BlazingWolf 7.1 rom.

On my observation, the main advantages of WM6.5 over WM6.1 are:
RAM Managemenet: In WM6.5 I never need to run the apps to clear RAM. Any time I quit a program, the RAM will be released imediately.
Power Consumption Controll: The battery life is noticably enlonged copare using WM6.1, on same load.
Connectivity: One example is on WM6.1 any time I'm using Internet Sharing I need to manually switch phone band to WCDMA to ensure stable fast data connection. And if I forget to switch it back to GSM or Auto after finished the Internet Sharing, phone calls on 3G mode will drain the battery very fast. But on WM6.5, I noticed that I don't need to switch phone band again, just leave it as Auto. The OS is so smart that it knows what time to switch to what band. Example, when I use internet sharing, it will stay at 3G for most of the time. When I make or receive a phone call, it will switch to GSM immediately after the phone connected.
Finger Touch Experience For this I don't explain more, it's just much more comfortable on finger/stylus responds.
Third Party Apps Interface: Well I'm not a developer, but from the changes on some registry structure, I can definitely tell that WM65 will be more friendly to third party application developers.
These are very core elements of a mobile os. The progress of wm65 on these points is obviously noticable.
But because the change of the core. It causes a big problem on legacy apps compatibility. People find that a lot of apps running well on wm6 just can never run on wm65.
But I think currently both Microsoft and third party software vendors are working tight on this issue. At least for most part of popular softwares, we can find a wm65 compatible version now. But for some speciall software, we can not find it if the developer did not upgrade it.
For sure, there are certain advantages of using 6.5 over 6.1. (The advantage is not only 'skin' things that you can see it, more important is on the 'core'.)
Hence your choice just depend on what softwares you're using. If for all your 'must-have' softwares you can find a WM6.5 compatible version or its replacement, why not use WM6.5.
Edit: I don't like the Titanium & the headache to customize it either. I just disabled it & leave an 'empty today', but with HButton, I can reach all frequently used apps within one single touch.
The RAM used by Titanium is 3.5MB+, compares to HTC Home @1.5MB+, & M2D @ 7MB+.
I like the looking of Honeucomb,(for showup only), but I also use QuickMenu, which is more functional.
Must to say that above experience are from the single ROM I've used only, maybe there are performance variaties on different ROMs & devices.
And at last, one of my most favarite part is the new PIE, it definitely can display whatever a desktop ie does except only one tab allowed.

I like 6.5. I find it runs pretty well on the kaiser, and I prefer its look to the old Windows 3.x interface found in the older versions. Plus, the finger scrolling is superb. And if you don't like the honeycomb, there are other start menu layouts, one example here. WM6.5 is just a band-aid to hold us over until WM7, but it's still a step in the right direction for Microsoft.
Dave

Yes, I think i will be waiting for wm7, but i just can't help myself any longer and I am going to take the plunge to wm6.5 on my Elfin or Wizard just to give it a go, I think it should run well on the elin with the RAM it has and without really checking out the custmizations, my assumptions is basically on the interface on standard screenshots i have seen.
thanks for the input guys, only a flash will i be able to add further opinions, as i am a heaver modder, and would need this to offer proper insight into the OS.

I've bounced back and forth between a couple 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs. I use TouchFLo because I hate 6.1's today screen and Titanium is pretty bland. I think that the current touchflo manila 2.1 is about the best you can get for WM6.1 currently, but I don't think manila 2.1 is streamlined for WM6.5. I feel like I'm taking a step back in integration and fluidness when I use Touchflo 2.1 and WM6.5. Not much, but it just seems off. This leads me to think that the new manila 2.5 is HTC's update to bring that integration and fluidness to WM6.5. The specualtion is that manila 2.5 is going to be for the new Firestone. While that is probably true, HTC has also mentioned that the new Topaz and Rhodium will get WM 6.5 upgrades. I would like to assume that this upgrade will also include manila 2.5 because if I feel that WM6.5 and TouchFlo 2.1 is lacking a complete feel then I would take that HTC has also noticed this. Yeah, I'm rambling I know. Just my thoughts. Bottom line on WM6.5 is that it seems like Microsoft just made a piss poor attempt at skinning there relic OS. That just pertains to the aesthetics though. I know there were unseen changes that do have their benefits.
(Sorry for all the "I feel and I would assumes", just ponderings)

Capacitive Touchscreen Applications

Hey everyone
I was just wondering, with the first Windows Mobile Capacitive touchscreen device (HTC Leo / HD2) will older windows applications still work, as they are obviously designed for resistive screens?
I read somewhere (but cannot remember where) that only specific applications designed for capacitive screens will work on the new HTC Leo.
Just wondering because I will be purchasing a HTC Leo when it comes out, and I wouldn't like to find that all my old applications don't work lol.
Thanks..

Whatever you have heard is nonsense.
The application has no idea what type of screen you're using, it just knows that the OS told it "the user clicked here". That's the entire purpose of things like operating systems and device drivers, to abstract all of this stuff away so the appscan "just work".
The Leo WILL run all the same apps you get on any other 6.5 device.

prank1 said:
I read somewhere (but cannot remember where) that only specific applications designed for capacitive screens will work on the new HTC Leo.
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What you read was probably that only specific applications designed for the Leo will support multi-touch (e.g. pinch-zoom).

Lol thats exactly what I thought... but you know people and their silly rumors
And it definately was about 3rd party applications lol.
I just wanted to be 100% sure before I spend over £500 on a device!
Thanks for your help. Maybe it will clear up a bit of confusion for others aswell.