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Just interested in finding out how many people are using them just to show off, or if people are actually finding use for them?
These are my observations:
Cube- hard to master getting it to flip out with the finger, and sometimes gives a lot of false positives. And using it after pressing the softkey takes too long, I would rather use HButton or some other launcher.
Scrolling- again this is hard to master.. sometimes it would scroll up when i'm actually flicking downwards... works surprisingly well at times and i found myself flicking the screen on non-touch ROMs.
Today plugin- this is ofcourse useful. But it takes too much space, and i couldn't embed it within a tab in spb diary. Also, in landscape mode its too big and leaves very little room for other plugins.
i think the cube is a POS. i've never actually used it as its much easier to do the task without messing around with it. the today plugin gives pretty much all the functionality of the cube without having to flick up left and right. the only time i've used it is to show other people how much the iPhone sucks.
and i think scrolling is very helpful. makes one handed use even easier if used with smartskey. anything possible to not use the stylus is a huge time saver.
1. Cube - dont use it much - or maybe just to fidget around...
2. Scrolling - can't live without it now - takes a little while to master it, but have stopped using the scroll bars mostly now that i can flick and scroll.
3. Home Plugin - do use it quite a bit, mostly for shortcuts to programs, photo dialling, weather.
Is there a cab which just installs the scrolling on any wm6 rom? Installing the htc home plugin slows down the device if its not built into the rom..
Nah its a Pose... OK but thats the cube only.
The Today screen is ok, especially if you use ur fingernail.
Great to show off and then tell ppl that its running a 2 year old phone,
and then iMention that iMac's iPhone is a iCon and no big deal.(Ummm actually iPhone Sux but their Media side and Batt life is sweet.)
And to wait for iPhone 2.0.0.666.
Let the .666 flame war begin. ;D
sometimes i end up playing around with the cube cause i admire how cool it is, although it's a little slow. I mostly use the top 9. I got too many contacts to scroll and I don't go on web much.
Can't live with out the touch scrolling and today plugin, but you need little mastering, but it's not a big deal.
Cube is pretty useless to me. I built a ROM without it, but with the touch scrolling and Home plugin. Trying to rebuild another ROM without it also. I don't use it and would rather use the space for Voice Command.
Currently rocking nbd 8.3. Can't live without the scroll and home screen but the cube is a novelty that quickly wears off, IMHO.
Would love to see a ROM with touch scroll and HTC home but without cube and missed calls bug. Any chefs out there listening?
yoda6 said:
Currently rocking nbd 8.3. Can't live without the scroll and home screen but the cube is a novelty that quickly wears off, IMHO.
Would love to see a ROM with touch scroll and HTC home but without cube and missed calls bug. Any chefs out there listening?
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You can try NBD 7.9 and just reassign the left softkey and you will have it
icezar said:
You can try NBD 7.9 and just reassign the left softkey and you will have it
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Almost, unless I'm mistaken all NBD ROMs (and most WM6 ROMs in general) have the missed calls bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
No problem of missed calls in NBD 8.3
I personally couldn't do withouth the HTC Home and the finger scrolling.
As many here, the cube is really beautiful to see in motion, but quite useless...
yoda6 said:
Almost, unless I'm mistaken all NBD ROMs (and most WM6 ROMs in general) have the missed calls bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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NBD 7.x does not have the 1,2 sec missed call bug.
Hi guys,
I agree with everyone... Htc home and touchflo rocks!!
The cube is a nice visual and for showing off, but not realy usefull.
Only if i havent set the IE launcher on the home plug i use the cube to launch it.
gr. bram
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NBD 7.x does not have the 1,2 sec missed call bug.
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Really? I'm talking about the problem where the GPRS is connected and an incoming call that is not answered before the calling party hangs up does not register as a missed call. NBD 8.3 certainly does this, although I'm thinking of trying the 2.19 UK radio to see if that helps.
I use cube time to time, bt is very nice thing. iphone contacts are the best and i use them daily.No button activation is not for me.
I got the touch installed on my second MDA which I use just for GPS. It's good for showing off. No useful functionality.
What's this scrolling business? Are you guys talking about the volume side thing? Or is there another way?
where is this touch scrolling from? I've flashed a few touch roms in the past monthish but none with the ability to scroll with my finger outside of contacts
Changed my mind from an earlier post.
Touch scrolling is awesome. Now that there is a version of the Home plugin works on TMobile its great to get the weather. Also, now that the Cube can come up via a finger swipe, it is actually useful (not required). Also, changing the links on the app side of the cube is needed because most of the default ones are already mapped to a hardware button.
hi. i just had a question. is it just on my phone, or does everyone's htc touch cube slow down drastically after a fresh install of a rom? i mean, i've tried several roms that have the touch cube, like ocatvoi, black diamond, tnt, and in each one, after the fresh install the cube works really fast, however when i reboot the device, the cube begins to show lag. especially the media face of the cube. when you turn the cube it takes a second for the next face to show up and the transition isn't as smooth as it was before. i'm overclocked at 240mhz and this still happens. any help?
thanks for the help everyone....j/k. i figure it out. i installed the t-mobile rom, then octavoi's rom, and then the touch rom i wanted (TNT Touch) and now everything works fast. Not sure why it works that way after installing octavoi's but i'm not complaining. just thought i'd share that with everyone.
hi,
Just recently upgraded from my old wizard to the polaris and really enjoy the slim yet feature packed device. However the touchscreen on the polaris seems to be much less sensitive than the one on the wizard -- it feels like I have to use double the pressure for the "click" to occur. I'm using the supplied screen protector.
Now is this something that can be tweaked with a setting somewhere or just the way it is with the polaris?
Yes, can be tweaked in the reg. It's an item called "BioTouch", easily found in the forum. (e.g. the sticky "tweaks and tricks")
I have noticed that coming from the universal too. There is a registry setting somewhere that I tweaked that seems to improve things but not by much. It wasnt in biotouch though - can you elaborate on what to change in the biotouch?
The change I made was:
Originally Posted by mastelos
touchflo sensitivity
HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel\Pressure Threshold
change from default 18866 to 19866 or 20866 or more 40866 makes the scroll better
Thanks
Allan
Actually, I just put that setting (Pressure Threshold) back to default - it seems to have no effect! Does anyone know what it is supposed to do? It seems as if my screen has become slightly more responsive through use???
allanmb said:
Actually, I just put that setting (Pressure Threshold) back to default - it seems to have no effect! Does anyone know what it is supposed to do? It seems as if my screen has become slightly more responsive through use???
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Did you do a soft reset after making the changes to the registry. Usually it's a good idea after a change to do so.
Yup indeed I did - still no change!
My pressure threshold was actually lower than the default. Now changed it to 20866 and I found the touch keyboard and other menus respond much better. Thanks!
Hmm.. mine was set at 19566 -- changed it to 20866 now, reset and I don't know if there really is any difference, still feels unresponsive... guess I'll just have to wait for a device with a capacitive touchscreen.
similar question: can the sensitivity for the scrollwheel be changed? I would like it to work much faster than the default.
obstler said:
similar question: can the sensitivity for the scrollwheel be changed? I would like it to work much faster than the default.
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Yeah, me too! You've got to turn it 30° or so to make it scroll.
I put the touchscreen sensitivity at 50866, now it really feels like a capacitive touchscreen (although I actually don't know how this feels like ). Great for typing with PocketCM Keyboard!
Well, I have mine at 188660 and it makes no difference
I change the key to 50866 and its much better!
Hi,
Having owned a Qtek 2020/8080 and a 9090, I thought I'd give a windows mobile handset a fourth try by buying the HTC touch pro.
These are my experiences so far:
- the first 2 days I had a hard time not accidentally hang up during phonecalls
- Slow responses lead to usability hell - when a tap on a button does not seem to register, a second tap triggers a second action.
- GPS coordinates do not seem to be attached to pictures' exifdata, while it is enabled using Kaisertweak.
With the previous phone I had (Motorola RZR) I could start a new phonecall within 2 seconds. With my htc touch pro it takes 2 seconds to get to the contacts screen.
My second choice would be an iPhone. Usabilitywise that might have been a good idea, but I really require a hardware keyboard like the htc touch pro has.
Are there any speed-specific tweaks available that could speed up the userinterface? Are there themes that consume less cpu/mem?
(I do love this device because of the amount of features it packs. I'm in some kind of love-hate relationship with my phone, currently ;-)
pitr2 said:
Hi,
Having owned a Qtek 2020/8080 and a 9090, I thought I'd give a windows mobile handset a fourth try by buying the HTC touch pro.
These are my experiences so far:
- the first 2 days I had a hard time not accidentally hang up during phonecalls
- Slow responses lead to usability hell - when a tap on a button does not seem to register, a second tap triggers a second action.
- GPS coordinates do not seem to be attached to pictures' exifdata, while it is enabled using Kaisertweak.
With the previous phone I had (Motorola RZR) I could start a new phonecall within 2 seconds. With my htc touch pro it takes 2 seconds to get to the contacts screen.
My second choice would be an iPhone. Usabilitywise that might have been a good idea, but I really require a hardware keyboard like the htc touch pro has.
Are there any speed-specific tweaks available that could speed up the userinterface? Are there themes that consume less cpu/mem?
(I do love this device because of the amount of features it packs. I'm in some kind of love-hate relationship with my phone, currently ;-)
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No slowness problems here - but I did make use of the speed tweaks in the 'Raphael Tweaks' thread from the off, so I can only advise doing the same.
dgpurvis said:
No slowness problems here - but I did make use of the speed tweaks in the 'Raphael Tweaks' thread from the off, so I can only advise doing the same.
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Same here, tweaks do make a difference.
Hrm,
no problems here ROM info in sig and zero tweaks applied.
Once you apply the tweaks, have turned it on and gone through the various touch flo pages once (seemingly to get things cached) then the interface is fast.
kempas said:
Once you apply the tweaks, have turned it on and gone through the various touch flo pages once (seemingly to get things cached) then the interface is fast.
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I have removed the touchflo application from the today screen, as that was giving me the most headaches. Touching the screen didn't always register, but setting the sensitivity higher helped. I'll give that a try after I have applied the speed tweaks.
Thanks for the replies.
I found that just putting the stylus on the screen doesnt make the device react, but once a tiny bit of pressure is used it reacts flawlessly.
scarecrow2012 said:
I found that just putting the stylus on the screen doesnt make the device react, but once a tiny bit of pressure is used it reacts flawlessly.
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It's a resistive touch screen, that's how they work. They require at least a modicum of pressure to register a touch/press.
Syphon Filter said:
It's a resistive touch screen, that's how they work. They require at least a modicum of pressure to register a touch/press.
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Some have regretted that the Touch Pro doesn't have a capacitive screen because of this, but I've noted they have the opposite problem, in that screen presses can register too easily. At least with a resistive screen it is possible to adjust the required pressure.
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Some have regretted that the Touch Pro doesn't have a capacitive screen because of this, but I've noted they have the opposite problem, in that screen presses can register too easily. At least with a resistive screen it is possible to adjust the required pressure.
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One would assume the same applies for capacitive touch screens too.
Capacitive screens work on measuring the distortion of magnetic fields, the distortion threshold before a "touch" is registered could be adjusted.
Syphon Filter said:
One would assume the same applies for capacitive touch screens too.
Capacitive screens work on measuring the distortion of magnetic fields, the distortion threshold before a "touch" is registered could be adjusted.
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I'm sure that's the case. I was commenting on what can be done with a resistive screen rather than comparing unfavourably with a capacitive screen.
No speed issues here, even without tweaks.
I can agree that screen sensitivity is too low even if set up to high but I taking my time...: )
Regards
B.
I'm testing my new honor view 10, I'm loving it except for the delay in the scroll. the finger need to slide 4mm before the scroll follows the movement.
this happens on all apps and uis.
Upon checking the display pointer option in the dev menu, touch is registered, it's just the screen not scrolling straight away.
are you experiencing the same? how do you improve scroll responsiveness?
I'm on bkl-l09
varignet said:
I'm testing my new honor view 10, I'm loving it except for the delay in the scroll. the finger need to slide 4mm before the scroll follows the movement.
this happens on all apps and uis.
Upon checking the display pointer option in the dev menu, touch is registered, it's just the screen not scrolling straight away.
are you experiencing the same? how do you improve scroll responsiveness?
I'm on bkl-l09
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Enable glove setting.. In display, Makes it crisp and fast
thanks, I'll check it out.
meanwhile I found this thread, it might be an emui widespread issue
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...touchscreen-latency-lag-delay-t3774567/page12
Updated to latest firmware c140 in the uk, factory reset, no improvement.
glove mode not much improvement.
it's not a big deal, the delay is perhaps 2-3mm with glove mode and 4-5mm without.
and it's definitely software as draw pointer under dev options shows a responsive touch.
I might keep it, it's no biggie and love everything else, what are your experiences regarding it?
multitouch tester shows a noticeable lag.
this is not noticeable in my 3.5yo motox 2ndgen.
the lag is on par with the one experienced on the p20 pro.
considering updates or lack thereof I'm thinking of returning it.
again it's a software issue I believe.
some think related to oreo 8.0 and 8.1
varignet said:
I'm testing my new honor view 10, I'm loving it except for the delay in the scroll. the finger need to slide 4mm before the scroll follows the movement.
this happens on all apps and uis.
Upon checking the display pointer option in the dev menu, touch is registered, it's just the screen not scrolling straight away.
are you experiencing the same? how do you improve scroll responsiveness?
I'm on bkl-l09
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Enable developer option and set all animation scale to 0.5 x
thx, I might be wrong, but I believe to have tried changing animation scale before.
Anyway it's going back, lovely phone, I just never fully felt in love with it. thx anyway
I'm experiencing this too. I got a Mate SE that doesn't have any lag when scrolling. Yet here is this device with a way better chipset and there is stuttering when scrolling
I suggest you to try a custom rom (lineage or whatever), i'm not experiencing this issue.
Had the same with my honor 10 and I suspect it is the knuckle gestures. Since I switched those off everything runs smoothly!