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Hello,
I am very interested in purchasing an HTC Fuze and using it on T-Mobile. Is any one currently doing this? Can you please give me your feedback.
Also, what are the unlock solutions for the HTC Fuze from AT&T. I know I can just call then in and ask for a code but is there another way? Also is there any lock on flashing ROM's?
Where is the cheapest place to buy a Fuze without a contract? Right now I have a deal for $375. Should I jump upon this?
Thanks in advanced
HTC Fuze and using it on T-Mobile, you must have the subsidy unlock code. Even after you unlock it, you still could not enjoy the 3G (assume you're in t-mob 3G coverage) because i lack of 1700 MHz band. Unlock code you can get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426609 I don't think at&t gonna give it out for non-subcriber. You may want to try your luck, then.
Flashing ROMs different than att, you must have your phone in super CID status. Refer to the link above.
$375 w/o contract and still whinning? Could you please disclose that source? I want to get some more.
I am currently with T-Mo and using a Touch Pro. So long as you can live with EDGE speeds you should have no problems. I went to a local wireless reseller to get my phone unlocked. Once it was I lodaded the Elite ROM. I have been using that for about two weeks now and I haven't had any problems. So far the only big issue I have is the "stylus issue". I'm hesitant to inquire about a replacement as the GPS along with everything else works great.
I just wanted to toss in my experience. I purchased an unlocked AT&T Fuze and am using it on T-Mobile. I got sick of waiting around for a decent Windows Mobile device to replace my Dash. I was able to get it for ~$420.
So far so good. I've heard that my voice sounds a bit odd, semi robotic. I'm not sure if that is a problem with the mic or what is going on, but I've ordered a Jawbone 2 so I'm not really worried about it.
EDGE is EDGE, it'll do for now until T-Mobile will get their act together and release a decent device, the G1 just won't cut it.
If you have other questions feel free to ask.
J.
How and where can I get it unlocked?
Is the ROM locked too from changing ROMs?
look at the link in the 2nd post
Wow,
sorry I didn't even see that whole sentence. I think I'll be purchasing an unbranded HTC Touch PRO anyways.
Thanks a lot for your help
I have an unlocked version that was purchased in Germany from the guy I bought it from. I may have paid a bit, but unlocked phones are usually much more expensive. The version I have has the second camera. Anyway...I'm using it on T-Mobile and it's working well. I did put the latest AT&T radio on it and it seems to have better signal. As for 3G.....well..T-Mobile only has 1 tower in my area so it'll be a while before 3G makes it here. The owners manual stated that to use 3G your sim card must be a 3G enabled sim card. I would think that you could use 3G if you have one of these cards and are in a 3G network. I could be wrong.... I hope it'll work!
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I am currently with T-Mo and using a Touch Pro. So long as you can live with EDGE speeds you should have no problems. I went to a local wireless reseller to get my phone unlocked. Once it was I lodaded the Elite ROM. I have been using that for about two weeks now and I haven't had any problems. So far the only big issue I have is the "stylus issue". I'm hesitant to inquire about a replacement as the GPS along with everything else works great.
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I have a t-mobile data plan, do I cancel that but can still use EDGE or do I keep that on to USE EDGE TOO? And how do I USE EDGE FOR IT?
Hi all, I am also on Tmobile with a fuze. I unlocked it myself with the help of a purchased unlocker from this forum (thx). I have been running ROMeOs and 1.11 radio I believe. I was wondering about the new att radio on the tmobile network. Does it drain the battery faster? That is what I have read. I love the fuze and being able to actually do something with it besides the [email protected] wing that tmobile released. I am happy that they will be releasing a touch pro 2 release soon but that will be 6 months or more. I got tired of waiting also.
Lets keep this thread going and make the touch pro really usable on tmobile!
As far as having a dataplan on tmobile, I dont use one. I just use tzones, which still gives me a slow data connection, but only costs me 5.99 a month. Better alternative from $25. Edge is the only thing that the touch pro/fuze will be able to use on the tmobile network since it lacks the 1700mhz that tmobile has choosen for 3g.... kinda sucks.. but that is life.
Check blownfuze.org too. great site for the newb fuze user.
I purchased mine already unlocked for $300.00 from a guy looking to get an I-Phone ( what an idiot ). He said it was only 1 month old and it was and still is in mint condition.
The rom I'm using is in my sig, about to upgrade to his newest version RRE 5.8. Radio is 1.02.25.32 and I haven't had any problems what so ever.
I love it.
The skinny
you can get a branded one and buy it w/o a contract and ATT customer care HAS TO give you the unlock code. May take a couple of days but they will do it. If they say no then ask for a supervisor. As long as you paid full price they can't deny you the unlock code. I used to do contract work for ATT as well as work for Tmo
t-mobile or ATT ?
I'm currently with t-mobile and get good reception everywhere. I don't plan on paying more to get 3G or any data plan. I just want to use wifi at work and home.
I want to buy the cheapest used HTC Fuze I can find as long as I can call someone get an unlock code and flash it to one of xda-portal's best firmware mods.
Other than 3G, is there any reason to choose ATT over T-mobile (since my current plan is cheaper than I can get at ATT) I do want to get all the functionality of an unbranded phone.
Overall cost locked vs unlocked
Are there any differences in the the physical structure of an AT&T vs. unlocked phone?
I need a new plan.... I can get a Fuze from Amazon for $150. The contract requires a data plan for 6 months which is 6 x 30 = 180. The data portion can be canceled after that without any penalties. In the long run I want the phone for wi-fi, not data. So the Amazon cost is $330 after 6 months. I can get a bit of interest on the money that sits in the savings account each month.
Unlocked Fuzes on eBay are going for $340-450 most of the time. Believe it or not, someone recently paid $909 + $10 shipping. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280334270835
So if I need you need a new plan, it's cheaper to get a Fuze from Amazon and not wonder if the "New, unopened" eBay phone is really brand new. If there are other considerations please let me know so I can make an informed decision.
Just an FYI. If you have or get web2go the $9.99 data plan from TMobile, they fixed it to where it will not work on unlocked/non-TMobile phones. Mine and many others with this problem just occurred very recently.
I believe there are a few people that had found a work around or a temporary fix for this. But I just went ahead and purchased the $24.99 data plan so I won't have to worry if my internet will work or not when I need to use it.
If you can get an unlocked Fuze for a good price, jump on it. Flash you a custom rom and you will be very pleased. I know I am.
Free Refurb Fuze at AT&T
Story on Mobility Digest
http://www.mobilitydigest.com/att-is-giving-away-refurb-fuzes-for-free/
AT&T link
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...el=nofollow&wtSlotClick=1-001X6Q!CIPHMQ01-1-1
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Story on Mobility Digest
http://www.mobilitydigest.com/att-is-giving-away-refurb-fuzes-for-free/
AT&T link
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...el=nofollow&wtSlotClick=1-001X6Q!CIPHMQ01-1-1
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Really wish I woulda seen that before I put my order in with Amazon. From what I hear, Amazon's cellular division is not too keen on giving refunds.
I am on T-Mo (USA) and thinking of getting a fuse (unlocked) will i be unable to get 3G at all with this phone?
yeah no tmobile 3g with the fuze. but i have the tzones plan for $6 a month back when they still offered it and can use unlimited internet just fine.
yea ..i just ordered a scratched screen fuze for $200. i was hoping flashing the rohdium radio would give 3g but i read about that bricking the phone. so is it it ever gonna be possible?
Are there any decent phones that are planned to come out for T-Mobile anytime soon? I cant believe the WING is still their newest (windows based) PDA slider offering, and even that doesn't support their 1700 MHz 3G network either.
I found rumors online about the TyTn II/Kaiser coming out in a 1700 MHz model for the US markets, but that's the phone I have so switching to it wont be a real upgrade, and if I have to break my contract with AT&T to do it that wouldn't be worth it. The rumors were also from late 2007 on most sites, so I don't know if thats even going to happen.
Are there any HTC phones out there that will support this odd 3G frequency? I would love to get away from AT&T and go back to t-Mobile, as AT&T is more then double the monthly fee that I used to pay for T-Mobile.
If T-Mobile had HTC develop a 1700MHz model of the Diamond or Touch Pro I would pay the cancellation fee and switch right back. I could only hope something like that would happen though.
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Are there any decent phones that are planned to come out for T-Mobile anytime soon? I cant believe the WING is still their newest (windows based) PDA slider offering, and even that doesn't support their 1700 MHz 3G network either.
I found rumors online about the TyTn II/Kaiser coming out in a 1700 MHz model for the US markets, but that's the phone I have so switching to it wont be a real upgrade, and if I have to break my contract with AT&T to do it that wouldn't be worth it. The rumors were also from late 2007 on most sites, so I don't know if thats even going to happen.
Are there any HTC phones out there that will support this odd 3G frequency? I would love to get away from AT&T and go back to t-Mobile, as AT&T is more then double the monthly fee that I used to pay for T-Mobile.
If T-Mobile had HTC develop a 1700MHz model of the Diamond or Touch Pro I would pay the cancellation fee and switch right back. I could only hope something like that would happen though.
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All indications are that we will see something in the spring which means that it will be July. hehe.
I'm hoping for a variant of the Touch Pro and from what I have seen in the rags it is looking promising.
Kirby
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All indications are that we will see something in the spring which means that it will be July. hehe.
I'm hoping for a variant of the Touch Pro and from what I have seen in the rags it is looking promising.
Kirby
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Yeah, being that T-Mobile has the Vario IV in the UK, I would hope they come up with one for the states that supports their 3g network.
I am a current Polaris user on T-Mobile. I am generally happy with the Polaris but am looking for the "next best thing", especially a bigger screen and 3G (T-Mobile flavor). Does anyone have any ideas based on what is coming down the track or should I stick with Polaris?
Hope this is not regarded as off topic.
I would say that the touch diamond 2, topaz would be the best replacement as it is only just been released in europe in the past days and will soon hit the us when is not known i think
Also consider Touch HD if you're multimedia oriented.
I'm still not sure which one I'd choose, Diamond 2 or HD
Thanks for the advice. My problem is being a T-Mobile customer. I like the look of both the Diamond 2 and HD but may hold off until the Pharos 137 is released as it will handle T-Mobile.
Why would that be a problem?
Just go to the shop and... oh... you want to get it provider-locked?
I always bought my phones in manufacturer, not provider shop.
I like my phones unlocked (or, better to say, never locked to provider).
Bodisson. I always buy my phones unlocked too. It is just that I like my T-Mobile $19.99/mth unlimited data plan so would like a phone that can work on T-Mobile 3G. There are not many out there that do that at this point owing to the unique bandwidth occupied by T-Mobile 3G in the US. But I know the Pharos Traveler 137 will, and it is supposedly due out soon.
I will choose the coming Touch Pro2 for it's large screen,additional slide Keyboard & TV connection ability
After a long thought on it i would say that the touch pro 2 is better due what d4rkkn16ht has listed and also that i was toying with the idea of getting a netbook. Now thinking about it if i had this then the reasons for a netbook really do get less, especially if the keyboard is as nice to type on as the early reviewers say
Like many of you, I have been a loyal HTC customer since 2004 when I bought my first HTC product. I have been buying at least one new HTC product each year since then. However, beginning two or so year ago, HTC stopped selling unlocked phones with 3G Radios which worked in Europe and the U.S.
For example, a few years ago when the HTC TyTN came out, we U.S. customers could pay a bit of a premium and buy an unlocked HTC TyTN which had 3G radios which worked in the U.S. and Europe before the the HTC TyTN variant (Cingular 8525) officially came to the U.S. many months later. The same was true of the HTC TyTN II (AT&T Tilt or 8925).
Beginning with the HTC Rafael (AT&T Fuze) a couple years ago, the unlocked phones offered directly from HTC had no 3G radios for the U.S. Next, the HTC HD Blackstone and then the HTC Touch Pro 2 were offered unlocked, but without radios that could work on U.S. 3G networks.
This makes me very angry for several reasons. First, AT&T is undoubtedly the best GSM carrier stateside in terms of 3G coverage. (Hopefully T-Mobile will catch up someday). All U.S. customers (if they want 3G) have to wait for months to get the hot stuff. By the time the new device arrives, it's old news and out of date (the HTC Tilt 2 for example). AT&T will undoubtedly receive all the good stuff last because of its exclusivity with the I-Phone which makes all the other manufacturers want to release their new stuff elsewhere first. (I don't blame them for this.).
Secondly, AT&T's branding is absolutely atrocious. I'd like to get my hands on the idiot at AT&T who keeps screwing up perfectly good QWERTY keyboards with AT&T idiotic silver keys and insane layouts. The silver wears off and makes the keys hard to see in bright light. The layout is insane because they change the masterful HTC layouts and have even changed patters from their previous keyboards. The caps and function keys have been switched. Whoever is in charge of keyboard layout should be fired and not allowed to work in the industry again.
Business people who live in Europe and travel to the U.S. should be equally upset. Their expensive unlocked HTC products won't pick up a U.S. 3G signal.
Am I the only one who doesn't like this trend? I think not. We all need to band together and push HTC to putting a bunch of 3G radios in its products. Personally, I'd like to see some unlocked products which had the following 3G bands - 850/900/1700/1900/2100. Or what about 850/1700/1900/2100 so that it could be used on either AT&T or T-Mobile in the States and also in Europe? No, they cannot do that, the carriers would have to actually compete on quality of service and price rather than on what phone they have.
I suspect that the hardware is not a limitation. If it is the limitation, the manufacturers could make plug in modules that could go from one frequency set to another. I bet that the reason the radios are limited is due to the totally anti-competitive practices of the U.S. carriers.
This is total B.S. Every single HTC customer who travels between the U.S. and Europe should complain to HTC about this. Can we get some kind of joint letter, etc, going?
I'd be interested to hear all responses. I'm frankly fed up.
I'm personally pretty frustrated with this issue. AT&T really f*cks up their keyboards, and adds so much crap to their devices. I'd have thrown my Tilt and Tilt2 out the window if I hadn't learned about cooked ROMs. The keyboard is the absolute worst, though. Whoever at AT&T decides to ruin the otherwise great keyboards on the unlocked devices needs to be shot. And as you said, they decided to change the CAPS and FN key positions, after I already learned to type the opposite way for two years.
However, the antenna hardware is a limitation, in a sense. Meaning, you can't enable the US 3G bands on an unlocked device if they internal hardware antenna doesn't support it. In a podcast with Mobility Digest, one the legendary producers of HardSPL (Olipro) said that he's hacked radios and SPLs to allow all the frequencies to be utilized, and there was no signal, because the antenna hardware was not able to pick up the frequencies.
I think the real problem is the carriers. AT&T doesn't want people to buy an unlocked AT&T compatible phone that I can use without an expensive data plan that I'm locked into for 2 years. They also don't want me to buy a phone that also supports T-Mobile, so I can decide I don't like AT&T and take my phone with me, 3G coverage and all. So what AT&T does is pressure HTC not to release an unlocked version with their 3G frequencies supported. You're absolutely right when you say that quality of service should be the deciding factor in a network, not the phones they sell.
I went through and other frustrations with HTC and at one point I swore I'd never buy another HTC phone again. Then I went and bought an iPhone. Problem is, while the iPhone is a pretty sweet phone, AT&T is still the same scumbag company regardless of what phone you own and Apple is even WORSE than HTC. Unless you jailbreak the iPhone, you can't do anything interesting with it and you're totally at the mercy of Apple and AT&T as far as apps and what you can do with them. Take Slingplayer, for example. It works over wifi, period. I can get it to work over 3G if I jailbreak the phone and install a utility that makes it think it's using wifi, but how much longer is jailbreaking going to be available? Apple is going to great lengths to put an end to jailbreaking thought patching the exploits that allow it to work and legally by trying to make it illegal to jailbreak it. You can't use your own sounds for message notification, you can't customize the screen, you can't do a lot of things. So Apple and AT&T take a nice phone and totally f**k it up. And that's why I'm back to using an HTC phone. In the grand scheme of things, HTC and Microsoft are, by a wide margin, the lesser of the two evils when put against Apple and AT&T.
I understand that HTC has limited the hardware so that even with the right software, the phones won't pick up frequencies for which they don't have hardware or antennas. It cannot be a big deal.
Always the optimist, I believe that if everyone who used this forum wrote HTC a letter demanding that they start putting the hardware in their phones to operate on multiple 3G networks, something positive might happen.
HTC has it in their power to make and sell unlocked phones. Five years ago, you never saw HTC's name on the phones. It was always, Cingular, T-Mobile, Siemens, Audiovox, etc. Now you see HTC doing direct advertising in the U.S. However, I don't think it will have any effect. The ignorant masses are so I-Phone crazy. The name HTC doesn't mean thing to them.
Soon that I-Phone will be sold on all the U.S. networks. HTC could advertise directly and sell tons of phones if the phones were unlocked and worked on multiple 3G networks. This is one of the principles of "Net Neutrality". People hate to be tied to any certain network. This idea of locking the customer into a two year contact to get a stinking phone is outrageous. Sure, the initial outlay for the phone is small, but the carrier more than makes it back with high than needed data connection fees. In the end, the consumer gets the shaft.
If HTC offered an unlocked phones with U.S. & Europe 3G, I'd buy a new one every few months if the phones were any good. I want an HTC HD2 right now. I'd also like to try an HTC Hero in a GSM 3G too. But I'll have to wait several months and hope my carrier gets it.
Let's not sit back and let this sorry situation continue. Let's spread the word and go after the HTC and get the message out there.
I'm not Dissatisfied with htc in regards to travel. But I am Dissatisfied with htc in regards to OS Updates. I dont think that HTC should allow the updates to be Choosen by the carrieer.
Example: HTC Touch Pro some carrieers are updateing to 6.5 and others are not.. and what pisses me off is HTC Touch Pro was designed for 7 then MS decided to push the release date back. so ALL Touch Pros should get the 6.5 update and when 7 comes out they should also get the 7 update aswell..
I'm so tired of this.. yes XDA is a good place to go for the updates but I should not have to rely on xda to give me the update.
I sware my next phone is going to be the apple iPhone.
radio stacks as far as I see it is not something htc are making a range of
they make one for each device and then make newer versions to tweek or fix issues with the first ones
the newest should in general be applied
about 3g frequencies diff between usa and the rest of the world is hardware differences not radio stack differences
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radio stacks as far as I see it is not something htc are making a range of
they make one for each device and then make newer versions to tweek or fix issues with the first ones
the newest should in general be applied
about 3g frequencies diff between usa and the rest of the world is hardware differences not radio stack differences
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The radio software is not the problem. It's the hardware. The hardware is deliberately made so that it only works on certain networks. I'm sure that cost and design are not the problem.
HTC needs to get back to devices that are true 3G 'world' phones! They have already lost a lot of the business folks!! Bring on the petition!!!
Agreed
I totally share your frustration. Similarly, due to heavy use I tend to buy a new phone yearly, Starting with Cingular 8150. I have many times purchased the same phone more than once, since no new devices were available when I needed a new phone. I am completely frustrated with being part of the largest consumer market in the world, yet only getting the latest technology more than a year after the rest of this planet. HTC has already lost an opportunity, by failing to fully and effectively advertise its products to Joe public, who was dazzled with the Iphone when it was first released. The fact remains that when we watched these Iphone adds, none of us was ever impressed with these features since they have been available to us for a long time with our HTC phones.
Rambo, I would like to encourage you to make a petition, as few of us are able to articulate this issue as well as you can and I would invite everyone to sign it, as a consumer block numbering in the thousands we can have our voices heard.
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HTC needs to get back to devices that are true 3G 'world' phones! They have already lost a lot of the business folks!! Bring on the petition!!!
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petition? just dont buy their garbage!
i havnt bought another htc since the htc tytn, that is like 4 years ago?
my previous phones, Imate 6150, Imate 9500, Eten X800, Sony X1, Acer F900, and now Acer neotouch S200, just preorder Acer Liquid, and soon Sony X10. what does all these phones have in common? they all works on ATT USA 3G! HTC can take their junks and stick it u know where! haha
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petition? just dont buy their garbage!
i havnt bought another htc since the htc tytn, that is like 4 years ago?
my previous phones, Imate 6150, Imate 9500, Eten X800, Sony X1, Acer F900, and now Acer neotouch S200, just preorder Acer Liquid, and soon Sony X10. what does all these phones have in common? they all works on ATT USA 3G! HTC can take their junks and stick it u know where! haha
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The only reason to petition HTC is because their hardware is not junk. It's very high quality stuff. They just need to make a few important changes.
dont be a pushy! haha
be a man!
it' like eatting at resturant, you are not allow to eat until everyone is finished eatting! that is just a insult to USA users! i wouldnt be begging them to let you eat at the same time as every1 else. i go elsewhere! haha
Thanks for using the Roman 'U' / sarcasm
3G Radios
yep, fully agree. I buy a new phone per year, due to heavy usage, they are generally ready for the scrap heap. I live in USA, but have operations in EU, and Japan / South Korea and I only want one phone and one number, and push around large amounts of data. I have to have 2100 mghz for voice and data in Japan and Korea, 850/1900 in USA and while in EU, need the 1800/900 and now 2100 for 3G access there. As I said, I only want one device and one number to keep updated and ready.
Big pain that HTC and Nokia have decided not to blend the 3G radios in the same way we have quad band GSM services. The extra frequencies on the radios are minor costs, which I would gladly pay.
ATT also keeps HTC from adding the 3.5 mm audio out jack, due to their exclusive deal with Apple on the Iphone, which is ridiculous. These cheap little dongles are a pain to use and keep up with, since I use my tilt 2 as an MP3 player while flying, I have to keep up with another piece. I strongly prefer one device to have to carry chargers for while traveling, so my phone is my MP3 player, email device, voice device, and mobile gps device. I want ONE DEVICE that works everywhere and not be dependant on AT&T to decide what and when I will get what.
HTC has to be tied to these carriers by some contract or agreement and is likely lacking marketing infastructure to take their phones to market globally and feel some ties to these major carriers. Otherwise it makes no sense to cripple these new devices as they are doing.
My 3 cents worth.
MWS
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Big pain that HTC and Nokia have decided not to blend the 3G radios in the same way we have quad band GSM services. The extra frequencies on the radios are minor costs, which I would gladly pay.
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sony ericsson, and acer have no problems including USA 3g and EU 2100umts on their phone! retarded htc just dont want to! it like watching the new movie New Moon, you not allow to watch it until 6 months later! do u still get excited about New Moon 6 months later while every1 else already watched it? and Samsung is starting to wake up too! their lastest phone Omina II got USA 3g and 2100umts! (900/1900/2100umts)
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sony ericsson, and acer have no problems including USA 3g and EU 2100umts on their phone! retarded htc just dont want to! it like watching the new movie New Moon, you not allow to watch it until 6 months later! do u still get excited about New Moon 6 months later while every1 else already watched it? and Samsung is starting to wake up too! their lastest phone Omina II got USA 3g and 2100umts! (900/1900/2100umts)
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i second that..asus p835 also have us3g band
HTC exists to sell phones and make money.
If they wanted to sell phones that aren't carrier locked, it would have to be at full retail price ($500-600) and as a result MUCH less people would buy it. Plus HTC would have to open their own stores and such, or sell it only online.
The other option is to sell it through a carrier, but when you do that you're at the carriers mercy. And american carriers are scumbags when it comes to that.
For example, when the rest of the world uses the higher frequency that allows more users on the same tower and better speeds. America is still stuck with using ancient towers on ****ty frequencies...because carriers like AT&T are too cheap to upgrade it.
At the end of the day what do you think matters more to HTC (as a business), you deciding not to buy another phone from them (which would cost them very little, if anything, as it would be the carrier that sustains the loss) or them losing a multi-million dollar contract.
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HTC exists to sell phones and make money.
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so is any other cell phones makers. sony, acer, asus, and now samsung (with their latest omini II got USA 3G and 2100umts. you bought ATT iphone, you also get 2100umts, i believe LG Expo with 1G cpu also has usa 3g and 2100umts!
but if you bought a HTC garbage phone, it either 900/2100 or USA 3G only, no 2100umts !
update: maybe "garbage" is not the correct word, it' OLD JUNKS! but the time it get to usa, phone is already 6months old! would you want to see New moon in 6 months while every1 is watching it now? would you rather eat after every1 is finished eatting? you just eatting the left-over!
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so is any other cell phones makers. sony, acer, asus, and now samsung (with their latest omini II got USA 3G and 2100umts. you bought ATT iphone, you also get 2100umts, i believe LG Expo with 1G cpu also has usa 3g and 2100umts!
but if you bought a HTC garbage phone, it either 900/2100 or USA 3G only, no 2100umts !
update: maybe "garbage" is not the correct word, it' OLD JUNKS! but the time it get to usa, phone is already 6months old! would you want to see New moon in 6 months while every1 is watching it now? would you rather eat after every1 is finished eatting? you just eatting the left-over!
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What don't you understand about it not having anything to do with HTC?
HTC signs contracts with t-mobile, AT&T, verizon, sprint etc, which allows them to rebrand the phone and sell it ON THEIR SCHEDULE with the features/radios THEY WANT. As almost everyone in America is locked onto 2 year contracts, most will be unwilling to buy to a new phone at full retail price until their contract is over. Hence carriers will wait to stock up on new phones till a time when the majority of their subscribers will be nearing their time to upgrade.
This CAN affect their other phones as well, just depends on whats written on those contracts.
AT&T doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to t-mobile. So they lock out the t-mobile 3G frequencies.
T-mobile doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to AT&T. So they lock out the AT&T frequencies.
Verizon/Sprint, don't want you buying a global phone and switching to T-mobile/AT&T, so they lock out both those bands.
If carriers aren't giving a certain phone the 2100 frequency, it's probably because they sell a similar more expensive phone that is "global ready" and want you to buy that instead if you travel. (Like for example, the ATT touch diamond doesn't have the 2100 band. The ATT Touch Pro 2 DOES)
Sony Ericcson, and Acer don't sell their phones in America through a carrier so naturally they don't have to lock out the radios and can do whatever the hell they want.
What is so hard to get about this?
Yes HTC can make a new contract, but I highly doubt carriers will sign it.
And btw I wouldn't want to see new moon, because it's gotta be the worst movie ever and nor am I a 13 year old girl with no common sense.
Razorfold said:
AT&T doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to t-mobile. So they lock out the t-mobile 3G frequencies.
T-mobile doesn't want you buying a phone and switching over to AT&T. So they lock out the AT&T frequencies.
Verizon/Sprint, don't want you buying a global phone and switching to T-mobile/AT&T, so they lock out both those bands.
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i dont want a ATT or Tmobile branded htc old junk! i'm talking about HTC unlocked phone that they purposely left out USA 3G on it!
Hi everyone. Thanks for taking the time to read through this post.
I have a MyTouch 3G 1.2, and im looking to upgrade to a different phone, not because I'm not satisfied with it, but because of the dearth of roms available for it. My upgrade has to be to a phone that can run on the tmobile carrier. Id rather not get a higher end model because the only things I have for trade is the phone, an old blackberry pearl, and an old itouch. I was eyeing the HD2, but I'm not sure if I can find someone willing to trade for the above items.
If any of you have any suggestions, please let me know.
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HD2 is a fantastic option to have in mind
Dont do HD2!! If you like samsung wait for the vibrant 4G if you like HTC mytouch 4G! I have it and I love it
Curent : HTC Glacier (MyTouch 4G)
Dead : Sidekick iD
Sidekick 2010
G1
iPhone 2G
Check your local Craigslist. I see "like new" HTC HD2s on Craigslist for $175-$200 quite often.
On eBay at least, your MyTouch 3G 1.2 is worth at least $100 and your iPod Touch at least $80. Not sure about the Blackberry, but from just what you have, I think you could easily make up most of the cost of an HD2 if you buy from Craigslist.
when i was in the club and tok bout my new HD2 out of my pocket the whole dance floor lit up the screen is so big and bright so i tarded to a vibrant and now just i got one probblem with it cant stop flashing new rom leaks lool
Thanks guys. I was considering the mytouch 4G, but there's nothing I can trade for such an expensive phone. I've been checking on craigslist, but it seems most people would rather get cash...
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I would just sell some goods on eBay or something. Sell your iPod and borrow a little and then turn around and sell your current phone.
I'm fine with the htc desire with its high customization!!
Yeah, I think you'll have to do what Omen says and sell some stuff up front and maybe borrow some. Ebay usually gets top dollar, just use actual pics rather than stock photos.
CL definitely has the best deals, right now my local CL has an HD2 listed for $200 and even a few week old Samsung Captivate, also for $200.
HTC Desire is a really nice phone. I have the CDMA version and thought about getting a GSM version to replace my iPhone, but the GSM versions are really expensive, $400+. Probably because they were never subsidized by any US carrier.
Any way you go, I can tell you the 1GHz Snapdragon phones are a night and day difference over the MyTouch 3G in performance. I find the MyTouch 3G to feel sluggish, but the 1GHz phones are very responsive and fast. Once you try one, you can't go back.
Well, I don't really want to ship stuff to people, so I guess I'll have to troll Craigslist. Is the desire also snapdragon? I don't think there are that many people willing to trade away an unsubsidized phone. Forgot to mention, I also have an xbox 360. Could you guys give me a price approximation for each of the items I have? I can't really use a computer for the rest of the week. Thanks for all your help!
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I don't know about you but I am waiting for a Tegra 2 phone as I am sure we it will get some awesome games for it. That thing is a BEAST. Unless it is down clocked :/
Yep, an HTC Desire has a 1GHz Snapdragon. It's pretty much a slightly updated Nexus One. The only differences I'm aware of is it has real buttons instead of the touch sensitive ones, and a virtual optical trackball instead of a real one. I doubt you will find one on CL because the GSM versions were ever subsidized here. The ones on eBay are either CDMA (US Cellular/Alltel) or GSM ones for sale by people in other countries that will ship to the US. Of course, Nexus One is a good one too, but also unsubsidized.
As for your stuff, if you want to sell on CL, I would just search your local CL to see what others are trying to sell it for. You can expect some people will want to bargain, so if you want top dollar, I would price it close to the higher prices you see, but accept offers better than the lowest prices you see. If you want to sell ASAP, then you'll probably have to price close to the lowest prices.
Tegra 2 will definitely be a beast, but I'm thinking to buy one without contract is going to be much more $$$ than an HD2 for quite awhile.
Although if you're sticking to TMO anyway, maybe it's worth renewing your contract to get a new phone at a subsidized price. I saw a thread on another site about subsidized pricing for existing TMO customers:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=433671&t=2604849
Galaxy S / S2 or Nexus S
Definitively !
I came from HTC to Samsung S and it is realy awsome !
My father works for tmobile, so I have the employee plan. I can't upgrade phones (at least I don't think I can). Ive seen a lot of N1s.on CL, but I wanted the HD2 because of it's high customobility. I mean, 3OSs on one phone? That's like getting windows, linux, and max osx for your desktop. If there are any other cheap snapdragon phones, let me know. And I'll get right on to posting on CL. Incidentally, are there any of you living in socal?
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Was gonna recommend a Tmobile G2 but might be out of your price range.
I would get a HD2, seen them in the $200 range. I was gonna pick up one for a backup to my G2.
Decided that I might as well sell off some stuff I don't use anymore. I've posted everything on craigslist, and im waiting for offers. Hopefully ill get enough money to buy some of the newer phones.
Also, I was originally considering buying the G2, just for its 4G capability, but it has a slower processor than the HD2, and that's one of my priorities right now.
If you guys can think of any other phones that might fit the bill, let me know please. Thanks!
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Also, I was originally considering buying the G2, just for its 4G capability, but it has a slower processor than the HD2, and that's one of my priorities right now.
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Your kidding right? Your reading too much into clock speed. The HD2 uses the first generation snapdragon and the G2 uses the second generation snapdragon processor. HD2 uses the Adreno 200 GPU the G2 uses the Adreno 205. You need to do more researching.
Ahaha. Did my research, and apparently the G2 can be overclocked to 1.9GHz. Any other phones that can beat like this?
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