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As the title really - since HTC and various carriers have now released Official WM6 ROMs for some devices (Hermes, Herald etc), is anyone working on porting one of these over to the Wizard?
The build of the Official Hermes ROM is 5.2.1437 (Build 17944), I am sure a lot of Wizard users would like to see this, me included
Andy
yep..i'd like to see it too
eluth is doing so with the Herald/T-Mo Wing ROM.
nice to hear...
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
Nothin, I'm inclined to agree. 15342 is the most stable build I've used yet. The Herald ROM doesn't even have Office 2003, VoIP or even the latest Windows Live. The only advantage I can think of is that the XIP section from the Herald perhaps allows you to pack more into the ROM. This is borne out by the fact that the Herald has the same amount of memory as the Wizard, yet the dump shows up around 135 mb on disk which is way more than the Wizard .nb can handle without thowing an error in build_imgfs.
If anyone can do it, eluth probably can, but I don't think many people will be joining in developing this one. I just lost my Wizard and though I have a brand new one coming , it's probably a G4 and I have a little catching up to do on that end before I can even think of something of this magnitude.
nothin said:
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
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I was thinking to maybe increase stability.....
I agree 15342 is probably the most stable release so far, however up until these official releases everthing so far has been pre-release stuff that has been leaked whether it was originally from a Wizard or not.
I still have issues with 15342, plus a lot of the underlying software is at least a year old. I would just like something new to play with......
Andy
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
Does anybody have a link to an extracted version of one of these roms? By extracted, I mean the actual files and rgu's.
This is what I am running on my Wizard and in my opinion, it is by far the best and fastest. No problems, Microsoft voice command is built in and works perfect. WiFi connects without a hitch, Bluetooth pairs and stays connected.....It is missing MMS and has office 2003. If you need MMS, there are many versions posted that you can add.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
the file to download is nk.nbf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/36233948/nk.nbf
alexanderi said:
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
mfrazzz said:
I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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Ok, thanx for the advice. I am too, currently stick to the clean Official wizard ROM, which found to be most stable and fast. Though, I have tested a lot of ROM out there.
I don't know how well a ROM from another device would work on ours but over in the Hermes corner which might be the brother of ours. Cingular calls ours the 8125 and the Hermes 8525. They have a new OFFICIAL AT&T Windows Mobile 6 Rom that has them all shook up. There have been 20 pages of posts in 2 days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317339
it's nothing special...basically what we already had, but with all the cingular add-on stuff... like Push to Talk and stuff... and it's bloated to death...lol..
What was the release date?
7/10/07 .. it wasnt officially released, it's a leak... but thats the ROM date .. came with a new RADIO too 1.48..
Sounds good, much newer than the one over here. Good luck with it.
The only thing that i like about it is the fact that i can now have wm6 with a working PTT
Pumpiron579 said:
This is what I am running on my Wizard
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Does it expose any problems at all?
I guess you must have done a lot of registry fixes, right? I mean, Hermes uses different driver stacks (I assume) and most probably they require different settings, which are device specific..
I would really try this out (especially because it solves the BT re-pairing problem), but firstly I wanted to make sure it is of minor risk and to understand what might be the time investment to get it to work.
Im back to wm5 for right now till i can figure this out. Having a few issues with wm6 atm so, until i see you again, anyone know the major differences between these, or is it just being the latest and greatest?
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Im back to wm5 for right now till i can figure this out. Having a few issues with wm6 atm so, until i see you again, anyone know the major differences between these, or is it just being the latest and greatest?
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I haven't tried any 413 ROMs but I know 318 has the issue with the missed calls while GPRS is on (showing up as 1 second received calls instead of missed calls), but other than that I think its just being the latest and greatest!
i recall reading somewhere...that the 318 was a wizard rom (extracted from ingenetics)...while the 413 was a port over from some other phone...hence the small bugs.
...i think it use to be mentioned the core kitchen thread...when both roms were posted for cooking...but now it's only 318...
mfrazz does a more detailed explanation in the third post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316447
1413 was a cross breed of sorts. i personally like it better for other reasons. it has a newer office 2007 build that enables me to delete items from imap mail. IMO its also a faster build
what issues are you having with 1413?
I have been adding/deleting features and programs in the new 19202 build that NoThrills has so graciously released to us.
Due to it kaiser designed base, giving it amazing speed(even in complete stock form), I was curious as to how many people would like a cooked version released, with some bug fixes, registry tweaks, and also some added utilities.
If you would like this, please respond letting me know what you would like to see in this release. I have already cooked several versions for my own person use, and modified it for my own use.
Just let me know what everyone would like to see, and ill try my best to release a few builds to accommodate the majority.
First Release of my Hybrid OS 5.2.19202 (Build 19209) can be found here after I upload: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2069244#post2069244
Yes please!
I'd love to see the basic ROM with bug fixes and generic updates to the HTC progs. To many ROMs get stuffed with extraneous crap that isn't useful.
Cook away brother, as I'd enjoy the sampling.
I do not think this is a good build to cook from unless you feel like spending lots of time in the kitchen fixing MS screw ups! Has anyone noticed the screen tearing from the new .dlls? plus there are a few other things I won't mention since most of you haven't played with roms that long to understand what I am talking about.
What specifics would you like to see?
Such as apps to be added/removed
What bugs do you think should have priority?
etc, etc...
uDK just released a version...
I'd like to see a "If HTC could be bothered to put all the fixes and S/W updates in all one ROM, This is how it would look ROM"
Camera Fix
Camera Album
Comm Manager
Video Dialer
Calculator
Little fixes like backlight going out on call.
Removing of the useless Windows Update.
But most Important its clean!!! Fresh...
UC compliant for all us to enjoy the phone our way...
I like flashing other peoples work... But thats their work... The way they want the phone... Yes they add little bits and take bits out on request sometimes... But how nice would it be to have our own way...
Argh 1st post other than just a thanks so I babbled and lost my self...
Thanks for your suggestions. I am working on these fixes as I type.
So far I have completed this:
- Working Video Dialer
- Comm Manager(6 Button)
- Latest HTC Album
- Camera Fix(Latest which i have seen)... PLEASE post the cab that contains which fix you are speaking of.
- Calculator
- GPS Test
- Office and OneNote has been removed in the lite version
- Welcome Center removed
- HSDPA Icon added
- HTC Plus added(disabled by default)
- HTC Home updated(now with tab under today settings)
- And more!
all the latest htc apps.....audio manager,home,album etc.....plus total comander is a must...thanks
austinsnyc said:
I do not think this is a good build to cook from unless you feel like spending lots of time in the kitchen fixing MS screw ups! Has anyone noticed the screen tearing from the new .dlls? plus there are a few other things I won't mention since most of you haven't played with roms that long to understand what I am talking about.
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because your soooooo cool.
why not just rls ur own build? you did great work with the first kaiser rom.. continue austin..
why not release it? because it takes more time than it should to turn these WM6.1 pigs into something worth having on my phone I have worked many roms and this is fast yes I'll agree but it also has some major bugs simply follow the release thread and you will see. plus this build isn't released from MS it has been modded in some little ways which are fine with me since that's what needed to be done so as we wouldn't know where it came from.
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plus this build isn't released from MS it has been modded in some little ways which are fine with me since that's what needed to be done so as we wouldn't know where it came from.
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Exactly. For some reason we are unable to get the "Shipped ROM" per say. The non-cooked version.
...the fact that this thread header is asking what we would like in a cooked build, is actually false. The only 5.2.19202 we have is a cooked build. I would like to a see a non-cooked build
im running dk's 3.14 and jesus its the fastest 6.1 rom ive ran to date.. ok well whenever u decide to mod ur own 3.14 rls will u post it? lol
cuboosh said:
im running dk's 3.14 and jesus its the fastest 6.1 rom ive ran to date.. ok well whenever u decide to mod ur own 3.14 rls will u post it? lol
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Oh no...I don't cook. I can't handle the heat so I stay out of the kitchen. I leave to the professionals.
IGO2008
YES, I wont this new ROM
Please check to work with igo2008, now I mast reset device to start igo this is not good.
AllTheWay said:
Oh no...I don't cook. I can't handle the heat so I stay out of the kitchen. I leave to the professionals.
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noo.. i was refering to austinsync lol
htc large start menu that works......working tcmp if possible? better looking icons and system folders(u know mulitmedia ,system tools etc.)
cuboosh said:
im running dk's 3.14 and jesus its the fastest 6.1 rom ive ran to date.. ok well whenever u decide to mod ur own 3.14 rls will u post it? lol
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yes I will release it. im already running a version that I've already modded for my own personal needs. I just am trying to see what will the majority of users would like to see
Script said:
yes I will release it. im already running a version that I've already modded for my own personal needs. I just am trying to see what will the majority of users would like to see
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Can you add a skype fix to your bug list please.
AllTheWay said:
Exactly. For some reason we are unable to get the "Shipped ROM" per say. The non-cooked version.
...the fact that this thread header is asking what we would like in a cooked build, is actually false. The only 5.2.19202 we have is a cooked build. I would like to a see a non-cooked build
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Well, I'm not a professional cook. But I flashed about every ROM that was ever out here, both on my Hermes and my Kaiser.
And despite of your reactions, AllTheWay and Austinsnyc, I really really dig this ROM. Never had a faster and snappier ROM before (even not Dutty's), no single freeze for 4 days, never needed to softreset.
I don't use voicecommander, but I dó use bluetooth (carkit, external phone), GPRS, HSDPA, phone, TomTom, Navigon, PointUI, PZPTools, etc. It all works great!
Yes, there are some problems reported, but aren't they also with Dutty's, Schaps, Alex's?
And yes, it may be a cooked ROM, but for me it's really worth further developing...
austinsnyc said:
I do not think this is a good build to cook from unless you feel like spending lots of time in the kitchen fixing MS screw ups! Has anyone noticed the screen tearing from the new .dlls? plus there are a few other things I won't mention since most of you haven't played with roms that long to understand what I am talking about.
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More like because you are incompetent...
austinsnyc said:
why not release it? because it takes more time than it should to turn these WM6.1 pigs into something worth having on my phone I have worked many roms and this is fast yes I'll agree but it also has some major bugs simply follow the release thread and you will see. plus this build isn't released from MS it has been modded in some little ways which are fine with me since that's what needed to be done so as we wouldn't know where it came from.
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Or is it because all of your past releases for any device failed?
AllTheWay said:
Exactly. For some reason we are unable to get the "Shipped ROM" per say. The non-cooked version.
...the fact that this thread header is asking what we would like in a cooked build, is actually false. The only 5.2.19202 we have is a cooked build. I would like to a see a non-cooked build
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Never going to happen until a carrier is going to release it, so why even bring it up?
i just started browsing this site a few days and am very impressed with the whole community..
anyway, i just swapped out my samsung epix for an htc fuze and love the phone so far. I've already succesfully removed the at&t tab, fixed the small mms issue, and changed the default device.home.
thats apperently the the tip of the iceberg as far as customizing this phone goes. I am now interested in a different rom. I've noticed a lot of good things about the energyrom 2.0/3.0 and am very interested but also hesitant to flash my phone since i only just got it and dont want to void any warranties.
my quesions;
1. whats the latest energyrom 2.0 build? (maybe give me a dl link)
2. does the rom come with a bunch of apps im not gonna use?
3. Do i need to flash the radio before/after the rom or at all?
4. and which radio is best?
tia, im looking forward to learning more as this phone will do until i get the touch pro 2 or whatever comes next.
edit: i do realize there is a wiki and have been studying it, i've also seen the rom flashing for noobs section and have a rough idea that hardspl is a failsafe should anything go wrong
I'm just going to say that you need to find the answers to your own questions.
Start here.
Rick Chase said:
i just started browsing this site a few days and am very impressed with the whole community..
anyway, i just swapped out my samsung epix for an htc fuze and love the phone so far. I've already succesfully removed the at&t tab, fixed the small mms issue, and changed the default device.home.
thats apperently the the tip of the iceberg as far as customizing this phone goes. I am now interested in a different rom. I've noticed a lot of good things about the energyrom 2.0/3.0 and am very interested but also hesitant to flash my phone since i only just got it and dont want to void any warranties.
my quesions;
1. whats the latest energyrom 2.0 build? (maybe give me a dl link)
2. does the rom come with a bunch of apps im not gonna use?
3. Do i need to flash the radio before/after the rom or at all?
4. and which radio is best?
tia, im looking forward to learning more as this phone will do until i get the touch pro 2 or whatever comes next.
edit: i do realize there is a wiki and have been studying it, i've also seen the rom flashing for noobs section and have a rough idea that hardspl is a failsafe should anything go wrong
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Welcome to forums
Energy ROM is great!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
im still iffy on going to a 6.5 rom cause i guess its still a beta version on winmo (i think) so i was more thinkin on 6.1, i dont need newest just something different from stock but stable as well.
i was lookin at this list (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.1_ROMs) and noticed energyrom 2.0 build 41609 was the newest but the thread link doesnt work.
i clicked the energyrom 1.0 build 32609 thread link and it brought me to a thread for energyrom 1.0 build 41609.....is that the same as energyrom 2.0 build 41609?
i also looked around and noticed the radio is untouched with just a rom flash so ill leave that alone for now. thank you for showing me how to use google anyway.
I am using 6.5 EnergyROM. It's very stable. Try it. The radio in my signature really works well in Northern California.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
aight, i think i will. thanks again for the info.
i flashed the rom to the energy 6.5 rom and am pretty amazed at people are willing to do for free. now ive only messed with it for about an hour but am loving it.
the only thing im worried about is how high the memory usage will go and how the battery life is affected..
I made it for fun and it is NOT usable and will not be before we get official source
http://saraev.ca/signed_120810_223045.zip
working:
- data/radio (no incall microphone)
- wifi
not working: everything else
please do not report bugs. I know whats not working but can fix NOTHING for now
Good job. IMO these ports will be unusable for the next few months until cyanogen comes up with a release.
It was like that with eclair and later froyo. History tends to repeat itself.
Woot Woot, Hopefully once we get the source this can become stable. The magic lives on. Not many froyo builds I tried for the 32a werent that easy on battery life. Hopefully this turns out good. Hope the devs will work together to create a stable rom, instead of having their own builds with pros and cons.
If 2.3 ever starts working on 32A + NR, I am jumping ship asap! I miss vanilla android
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Good job. IMO these ports will be unusable for the next few months until cyanogen comes up with a release.
It was like that with eclair and later froyo. History tends to repeat itself.
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There is no beginning no end. We are never be alone
HTC planning any updates in the future for "oldest" device? :/
eyegor said:
Good job. IMO these ports will be unusable for the next few months until cyanogen comes up with a release.
It was like that with eclair and later froyo. History tends to repeat itself.
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I would have to agree with you except for I think I read on Cyanogen's twitter page that they will NOT be supporting first gen devices after CM6.1 which I assume meant NO ported 2.3 for us.
Hopefully I am wrong.
where is that quote? can't see it
good job!!!!!!!! hahahahaha
Did anyone1 tried on OR and cm Bcrook kernel???
i want to make a team for dev this rom to work full on magic..contact me..
nice hopefully it will fully work
Download does not work?
Really impressive work Hope to see this fully working.
what changes are needed for this to boot on 32b?
This is all well and good and I'll try it if I get my repaired phone back and can once again have a spare to play with.
However is it reasonable to expect this to ever be usable? We don't seem to be able to get a fully working 2.2 under the new radio so why would 2.3 ever get enough attention or drivers? I used 2.2 for a long time on the old radio but I really needed to use the new radio and have since gone back to 2.1 since it is now my daily driver again.
This will be great fun once I can put the Magic back to dev use.
I tested this on my g1, with a pershoots kernel over top so that it boots. And I was wondering how you got wifi to work? I tried replacing many things, but still get an error starting wifi supplicant daemon on logcat.
Just curious, not like I expect anything to ever become usable haha
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I tested this on my g1, with a pershoots kernel over top so that it boots. And I was wondering how you got wifi to work? I tried replacing many things, but still get an error starting wifi supplicant daemon on logcat.
Just curious, not like I expect anything to ever become usable haha
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hm did you replace wlan.ko ? you should
also take a look at init.sapphire.rc:
Ive changed wpa_supplicant service a little because wlan_loader is not used as in eclair/froyo roms. my *wpa_supplicant.exec* loads the firmware and then starts *real* wpa_supplicant.
I realy dont have an idea whether firmware & tiwlan.ini are different for trout/sapphire. if they are you can edit wpa_supplicant.exec to load propper firmware files..
EDIT: this will not be usable untill we get gingerbrad sources published by google. then maybe cyanogen will do a build for us. I heard he will not support sapphire/trout anmore and if and *only if* it is true I will try to make a working one. I hope it isn't true and cyanogen will still suport our devices because he can do it better than me for sure
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where is that quote? can't see it
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twitter.com/cyanogen/statuses/8805829046177792
twitter.com/cyanogen/statuses/10393734621433856
*bump* any news, updates, anything?
found this
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/15/gingerbread-source-headed-to-aosp-soon-now-the-real-fun-begins/
Hopefully we can get a working build, dont wanna let the magic die.
Porting
Anyone done any work porting this? I'm currently working to compile this for my fender. Hopefully with the new radio. Which I've read doesn't work, so... anyone found a working one? I'm running eclipse to compile but if you'd like to help, let me know what you use and I'll send you what I've got.