Hello Guys,
I am, what you call a "Noob".
I am about to get the 8125 from Cingular and would like to upgrade to wm6 ... there is no easy thread describing this issue. I do not know what most of the terms mean that you guys use
Soooo:
Is it supportet by Cingular? Is it legal? Is it Better !?
How do I upgrade ?
swell if u read around im sure its not hard.... the only part that requires thinking is determining if you have a G3 or a G4 8125...
heres a great thread that descibes your situation.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
I have read that post and many others and I understand the part about g3 and g4 (versions..) but I am more concerned about background info about wm6 on my 8125 from cingular ...
Reading will give you all the background information you need.
After determining whether you have a G3 or G4 device, you will know whether you can unlock your phone - G3s can be unlocked, G4s cannot (unless you pay). Either way, you can still put WM6 on your device.
Steps for determining which device you have, and then how to CID unlock (if you have a G3) and flash new ROMS can all be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310831. CID unlocking you device WILL void your warranty, and Cingular, or any other carrier, does not support adding ROMS that were not released by them. Is it legal?....well...that is an issue all on its own. There is a thread somewhere here with different thoughts on the issue. I can, however, say from my perspective, WM6 is waaaay better than the WM5 stock carrier ROM. Less crashes, more memory, better programs, more features, more stable, and overall, just a better ROM.
The one thing about WM6 that you do have to remember is that there has not been and is not going to be an official release from any carrier for the wizard. All ROMS here have been "cooked" by various chefs. Some were ported from other devices that have gotten official releases, but a member named InGeNeTiCs managed to get a build specifically made for the wizard, which has been the base for many ROMS. Any ROM with OS 5.2.318 Build 15342.4.0.01 has this base OS. What this means, is that all drivers and everything else was made for the wizard, not for other devices then ported onto the wizard.
When you are ready to flash your ROM, read around and decide what one is for you. The NBD series is really good if you want the touch interface. Personally, I have tried XM6 and TNT and both are very stable classic crossbow ROMS.
As stated in the post above, you must read...read...then read... All the information that has been compiled on this forum cannot be put into one post, so read around.
Good luck!
yoz
Not much else you can say bro besides test them all and see what you like. it takes about 10 mins max to flash each. If you have a dual/quad core system, then put the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe on realitime priority and it takes about 3 mins Total. You will start flashing regularly i'm sure. Gettr' DONE!
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Good day:
I recently purchased a Cingular 8125 on eBay... It should be coming in the mail today hopefully. I have been reading up on these upgrade ROMs, and I understand I have a few different options.
I am looking to possibly upgrade this phone to WM6.
I understand there are plenty of general FAQ's on these ROMs, but I am looking for some personal experiences on this particular phone. What ROMs have people used, what would you recommend for this phone? Any do's and don'ts? Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Welcome to the group...
Other than physical appearance, all Wizards are the same.
Whether it be a 9100, MDA, 8125... Once flashed with the same ROM, usability will be the same.
In the meanwhile, take some time to read at least the stickies in the Wizard subforum and once you get your phone, determine whether it's a G3 or G4.
Cool thanks for the info man. Yeah I have been reading through the stickies, I saw the guide there that you are talking about. There is some pretty good stuff up there. Just was lookin for some personal experiences and such.
Thanks!
Edit: Just noticed you got the 8125. How does your's work with all that stuff on there? Any bugs or anything? Any general downsides from using that or just using the factory WM5?
I'm actually experimenting with a different rom now... I normally change my sig only when I'm sufficiently satisfied with the current configuration.
BatteryStatus and Oxios Memory are highly recommended and doesn't interfere with the functionality of any ROM. Voice Command is just preference although some people argue that Speed Dialer is better.
all i can say is dont think that your an expert after you've flash a few roms. believe me when i say you'll get careless and **** somethin up. i stupidly tried to flash ipl/spl rom on my G4 8125 and bricked it. i got it replaced by AT&T but damn if that feeling didnt suck. just be careful, pay attention and have fun. b4 you know it you'll be addicted. just like everyone else
im a cingular 8125 user as well, however im using the T-mobile service on it. What i can say about roms is that, you have to thank some of the people on here that make the kitchens and the roms. They spend time figuring out and fixing bugs that we all have. The best bet is to keep trying a rom, until "it fits your needs" and is stable. The things i look for is
#1 Stability - (no errors, bugs)
#2 performance - (speed, boot-time.. etc)
#3 battery consumption
Hi, I am new here and to windows mobile. I just purchased a HTC Tornado and I am looking for a thread that tells me how to upgrade it from WM5 to WM6. The problem is, when I search for HTC Tornado all the threads show a different Tornado phone then what I have. I have the HTC Tornado from Tmobile. Would I upgrade it the same way you upgrade the Tornado I keep seeing in this section?? Do I have a older model or something? Any help would be greatly appreciated! I attached a picture of the Torando that I have.
Thanks
You have a regular Tornado, simply the music edition. It's identical to mine and you can use without problem any of the WM6 that are available here
The insides are the same as the tornado, T-Mobile just puts their case on it. Many companies do the same.
I have the exact same version. Also called SP5m for the music edition. Be *very* careful to burn only those ROMS made for the Tornado. HTC Faraday for example looks very similar and many people have "bricked" their phone (made it totally useless) by installing that ROM.
Good luck.
Thanks for the help guys.. Anyone know where I can view a help section for newbs? I take it ROMS are programs?? And when you say my Tornado is the music edition, the other tornado can't play music? Can I update from WM5 right to WM6?
Thanks
It is the same HTC Tornado as any other. It has the exact same specs and features. The only differenece is the case. You can use any ROM for HTC Tornado.
other tornado don't have special buttons(play, next, previous), but they play music just the same as your SP5m does. ROMs are programs to upgrade your OS(operating system), it's like changing the PC OS from XP to Vista having a special software to help you do that more easily, there is no forum/section for newbs, as an advice, read all FAQs and other instructions here in Tornado section, and when you think you are ready - upgrade you WM5 to WM6, but if you aren't sure in smth better ask here before you make a step in nowhere..
good luck
Is there any big advantages to upgrade WM5 to WM6? Hard to do for a newb?
WM6 is lot better than WM5. I like it lot more. And it is not hard to upgrade to WM6. Basically you just need to superCID your phone, format BINFS and run the ROM Update Utility. Read this for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324557
Thanks for the help. My phone should be here anyday now. Can't wait to mess around with it Is there anywhere anyone knows of where I can get newbie info on all the terms such as SuperCID, BINFS etc..
try the wiki. Look at the links at the top of the forums.
i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance
prawns said:
i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance
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furthermore dont take my message to personal, it is getting to bored here in Universal forum. cheers mate
i would have asked the same as Prawns -- I am afraid Uni is for Hobbyists only
Since the Uni never had an HTC-build of WM6, ALL ROMs are cooked from versions for other devices.
There are NO definitive drivers that are guaranteed to work 100% correctly 100% of the time, because HTC never released them.
So - if you want total stability, and total reliability, go find a totally vanilla WM5 ROM - that'll give you that (but none of the 'extras').
If the only thing you really want from WM6.1 is the Office 2007-compatible Office Mobile stuff, then either build a WM5 ROM with that in-place, or look around - I'm pretty sure some of the WM5 cooked ROMs have that in them.
If you want all the latest & greatest, bells & whistles, then you've got to put up with the facts that:
a) There may be problems - these are being cooked by a single developer working pretty much in the dark, NOT by a development team.
b) The ROM likely won't have exactly the feature-set you want to see -- if you want that, either approach a cooker directly with an offer to pay him/her for it, or build it yourself (which is what I'm doing). Yes - it's a painful, time-consuming process, but at least you'll learn something - I sure am!
Just my opinion.....
-PJC
Guys,
I've always had HTC phones, since the original XDA - back in those days there were perhaps only 3/4 cooked roms available and so the choice was fairly simple.
I'm looking to flash my Kaiser with a rom that's speedy, feature packed and has something particularly snazzy about it!! I've had a look at Roms available...and there's about 40!!!!!
What I'm looking for is an unbiased view from someone that has tried a number of roms and can recommend a rom that's a significant improvement over the standard Vodafone WM6.1 rom!
Please, who'll be my saviour!!!
Cheers, Ash
I am in the same boat with you!
I am currently using and liking HyperDragon III Jade OS 5.2.19974 Build 19974.1.2.8 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121)
I was stuck on PDACorner's series for awhile, as well as NATF, but it seems that the newer releases from them are unstable on my phone, in my location.
There is always something that will shine in this ROM and will not exist in that ROM. (Unless you cook up one for yourself - I haven't ventured there yet)
Well I'm gonna go flash today's ROM Your saviour I am not, just adding my $0.02.
ok....here's my non-biased opinion...
but but before that i'd like to tell u that this thread might be closed by the end of my post here...since a mod will tell u that every person has his/her own taste in regards to what rom is best...
now my opinion....
u have to know that we are living in the kaiser manilla craze right now....if u dont know manilla is a new today screen interface which is pretty much eye candy only in my opinion....
if you want a good wm6.1 rom (without manilla)...u can try the new garmin DK6 rom....but since that rom is still new and might have sum bugs...i suggest u search for garmin DK3 series which comes in 1-naked 2-light 3-full versions...just to get a feel of what his roms are about...
garmin's roms are one of (if not) the best wm6.1 roms for kaiser and are 99.5% bug free...
thats my 2 cents
note: im sure u know this already but please dont forget to either CID unlock or flash hard-spl before flashing these roms!!!
mazin13 said:
ok....here's my non-biased opinion...
but but before that i'd like to tell u that this thread might be closed by the end of my post here...since a mod will tell u that every person has his/her own taste in regards to what rom is best...
now my opinion....
u have to know that we are living in the kaiser manilla craze right now....if u dont know manilla is a new today screen interface which is pretty much eye candy only in my opinion....
if you want a good wm6.1 rom (without manilla)...u can try the new garmin DK6 rom....but since that rom is still new and might have sum bugs...i suggest u search for garmin DK3 series which comes in 1-naked 2-light 3-full versions...just to get a feel of what his roms are about...
garmin's roms are one of (if not) the best wm6.1 roms for kaiser and are 99.5% bug free...
thats my 2 cents
note: im sure u know this already but please dont forget to either CID unlock or flash hard-spl before flashing these roms!!!
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Thanks guys for your feedback so far - this thread definitely shouldn't be closed, a forum is for discussion about personal views, thats what we're doing!
I'll have a check of the Garmin roms then, sounds interesting - let me know how you guys get on flashing (LOL) - anyone else?
Garmins new DK6 is out and is very fast u must try it, his roms are simply great as are many chefs but his seam to be the smoothest
Hey there,
originally i was running T-mobiles wm6.0.
From there i have moved straight to:
[3 November 08] HyperDragon Jade OS 5.2.19974 Build 19974.1.2.8
which, in my oppinion, is a lot smoother and adds a lot more usability to the phone (E.g, i never had voice command on 6.0, Manilla didnt work as it should, skipping to a certain letter in your contacts list is now easier due to an iphone-esque side menu etc.)
Ok, so manilla is eye candy, may negate some of the tweaks and updates done for speed increase, but at the end of the day, over a standard ROM, its still faster.
The only issue(s) i can say i have had is that the touch screen seems a lot less responsive, and the speed gains were only really noticable when i used Kaisertweak and changed all the caches to as large as they would go, but it is still a very good and stable build IMO. Oh, and manilla doesnt support landscape view (although all other normal elements such as texting, contacts etc do)
I'm probably going to update within the next few days, there is a manilla update in the latest one (oooo) but that can wait a little bit i guess.
just my £0.02
i get kind of nervous with cooked roms... had a few bad experiences where i'd be hard=resetting and rebuilding 2 or 3 times in a day.
i put in the latest WM6.1 ROM posted here... had a few issues that needed to be resolved, but otherwise am very happy with it.
True to Form:
Best is very Subjective and it is impossible to have an "unbiased" opinion. Everyone has their own favorite.
Thread Closed pursuant with the guidelines set forth in the Kaiser Section Announcement and the Forum Policies.
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if I can use the 6.1 ROMs on my Kaiser or am I limited to 6.0 ROMs?
I tried to download the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade from HTC but when I enter my Serial No. it says its unsuitable for my phone.
I bought it on ebay and its full of rubbish and seems heavily tampered and has lots of querky things going on - so I thought I would just flash it with one of your ROMs. I don't want to 'brick' it if 6.1 is incompatible. I have spent days reading the (astoundingly detailed) FAQ's but, maybe 'cos I'm dumb and don't understand the difference between ROM and OS, I'm worried I will trash the phone if HTC say its incompatible.
I'm rambling now because what I don't really know is whether A ROM includes OS or sits on top of OS.
Regards,
JN
You can, of course, use 6.1 roms on your kaiser. I suggest you just go to the kaiser section, read a bit, and find yourself a nice ROM.. the kaiser section is flooded with ROMs.. and good ones
Thanks for replying. I found several posts today from people who have trouble with screen touch alignment and wondered if there was a hardware incompatibility with some Kaiser's and WM 6.1. Also, I found the answer to my question about ROMs and OS in Q1 of the Kaiser ROM Flashing FAQ which I had already read but obviously not taken in.
I shall give one a try then.
Many thanks,
I'd suggest giving a few.. until you get it right
LOL
Ok then. What are the chances of totalling the phone? Mind You, I've got to the point where if I junk it I won't care too much. So I shall just have some fun.
Thanks for the reassurance and advice.
You should be able to hard reset if everything fails...which should save you in the worst case situation... I beleive though from reading up on it if you unlock your phone with HARDSPL it is supposed to stop you from being able to brick your phone
First of all, try try a few roms without spling more than once, find the hardspl guide for kaiser in the kaiser forum and hardspl it so you can flash as many roms as you like.
afterwards, just start flashing roms. bricking a device isn't that common if you do things properly. make sure all roms you flash are meant for kaiser..
Thanks again for the help and advice, which I have followed - I've applied HARDSPL as recommended. I've only had a chance to apply one ROM so far (AtheneOS WWE) which looks fantastic IMHO but I have what seems like a radio problem as I have no sound. So I shall have a go now at different radios I suppose? That's what most of the replies to posts seem to suggest for lack of sound after flashing. Its easier than I thought this lark - I can see this may be habit forming though
Great stuff you guys .
JN
Another Happy (rom) Flasher!
lol. go ahead and enjoy flashing.