Guys,
I've always had HTC phones, since the original XDA - back in those days there were perhaps only 3/4 cooked roms available and so the choice was fairly simple.
I'm looking to flash my Kaiser with a rom that's speedy, feature packed and has something particularly snazzy about it!! I've had a look at Roms available...and there's about 40!!!!!
What I'm looking for is an unbiased view from someone that has tried a number of roms and can recommend a rom that's a significant improvement over the standard Vodafone WM6.1 rom!
Please, who'll be my saviour!!!
Cheers, Ash
I am in the same boat with you!
I am currently using and liking HyperDragon III Jade OS 5.2.19974 Build 19974.1.2.8 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121)
I was stuck on PDACorner's series for awhile, as well as NATF, but it seems that the newer releases from them are unstable on my phone, in my location.
There is always something that will shine in this ROM and will not exist in that ROM. (Unless you cook up one for yourself - I haven't ventured there yet)
Well I'm gonna go flash today's ROM Your saviour I am not, just adding my $0.02.
ok....here's my non-biased opinion...
but but before that i'd like to tell u that this thread might be closed by the end of my post here...since a mod will tell u that every person has his/her own taste in regards to what rom is best...
now my opinion....
u have to know that we are living in the kaiser manilla craze right now....if u dont know manilla is a new today screen interface which is pretty much eye candy only in my opinion....
if you want a good wm6.1 rom (without manilla)...u can try the new garmin DK6 rom....but since that rom is still new and might have sum bugs...i suggest u search for garmin DK3 series which comes in 1-naked 2-light 3-full versions...just to get a feel of what his roms are about...
garmin's roms are one of (if not) the best wm6.1 roms for kaiser and are 99.5% bug free...
thats my 2 cents
note: im sure u know this already but please dont forget to either CID unlock or flash hard-spl before flashing these roms!!!
mazin13 said:
ok....here's my non-biased opinion...
but but before that i'd like to tell u that this thread might be closed by the end of my post here...since a mod will tell u that every person has his/her own taste in regards to what rom is best...
now my opinion....
u have to know that we are living in the kaiser manilla craze right now....if u dont know manilla is a new today screen interface which is pretty much eye candy only in my opinion....
if you want a good wm6.1 rom (without manilla)...u can try the new garmin DK6 rom....but since that rom is still new and might have sum bugs...i suggest u search for garmin DK3 series which comes in 1-naked 2-light 3-full versions...just to get a feel of what his roms are about...
garmin's roms are one of (if not) the best wm6.1 roms for kaiser and are 99.5% bug free...
thats my 2 cents
note: im sure u know this already but please dont forget to either CID unlock or flash hard-spl before flashing these roms!!!
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Thanks guys for your feedback so far - this thread definitely shouldn't be closed, a forum is for discussion about personal views, thats what we're doing!
I'll have a check of the Garmin roms then, sounds interesting - let me know how you guys get on flashing (LOL) - anyone else?
Garmins new DK6 is out and is very fast u must try it, his roms are simply great as are many chefs but his seam to be the smoothest
Hey there,
originally i was running T-mobiles wm6.0.
From there i have moved straight to:
[3 November 08] HyperDragon Jade OS 5.2.19974 Build 19974.1.2.8
which, in my oppinion, is a lot smoother and adds a lot more usability to the phone (E.g, i never had voice command on 6.0, Manilla didnt work as it should, skipping to a certain letter in your contacts list is now easier due to an iphone-esque side menu etc.)
Ok, so manilla is eye candy, may negate some of the tweaks and updates done for speed increase, but at the end of the day, over a standard ROM, its still faster.
The only issue(s) i can say i have had is that the touch screen seems a lot less responsive, and the speed gains were only really noticable when i used Kaisertweak and changed all the caches to as large as they would go, but it is still a very good and stable build IMO. Oh, and manilla doesnt support landscape view (although all other normal elements such as texting, contacts etc do)
I'm probably going to update within the next few days, there is a manilla update in the latest one (oooo) but that can wait a little bit i guess.
just my £0.02
i get kind of nervous with cooked roms... had a few bad experiences where i'd be hard=resetting and rebuilding 2 or 3 times in a day.
i put in the latest WM6.1 ROM posted here... had a few issues that needed to be resolved, but otherwise am very happy with it.
True to Form:
Best is very Subjective and it is impossible to have an "unbiased" opinion. Everyone has their own favorite.
Thread Closed pursuant with the guidelines set forth in the Kaiser Section Announcement and the Forum Policies.
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Anybody wants to create a poll for this?
Just use the last one and it will have the latest updates
Use anything except Imate ROMs uptill today (anything after today released is fine). Im at Imate Forums as a member and Im the only one who can answer questions out there (even their support team is dumb...or maybe just busy). Thanks for XDA-Devs, I can answer pretty much everyones issues.
Go for the DOPOD rom, clean , safe and the latest one is great. No value added (or should I say Device Slow Snail Maker) stuff on them
Hi Tornadians how u doing,
by now we have found multiple Rom of WM6 by our Expert Users
Lets Rate Which one is bug free and very very stable.
let us know your Experience
Dude, it's Microsoft Windows. Any version is neither stable nor bug free!!!
i m either Apple Certified Technician and use to work on Mac Platform but unfortunately bought Tornado i am happy with tornado but not with Windows and i m keep updating it. so i can solve it.
i put my problem in other thread "WM6 SCREEN GOES OFF IN 5 SEC"
please senior member solve this issue
WM6 For Tornado - HTC Edition
Why don't you start a Poll !
My vote goes to NiTroGen's greek ROM...
The best out there is:
WM6 English 5.2.1616.18120 by NiTroGen.
It has the new build on and interesting features from andot's ROM.
Andot's ROM is very unstable.
Everybody seems to have their own opinion. No consensus yet!
My vote goes to HTC Edition.
Been using it for weeks (Ver. 1, did most of the tweaks manually that are in the 2nd ed.) and it's been very stable and I don't think I've found any bugs or glitches.
Phil's beta would come 2nd on my list, however it's way behind HTC Edition by now.
anyone wants to create a poll for this? so no one is gonna keep asking which rom is more stable or better?
to all the cookers, makerz or editorz, all of you have done a great job !
Poll would be pointless since it needed redoing everytime a rom get's updated.
But what'd be nice is a sticky with a comparison chart, moderated by a forums moderator. So the creators could just send the essential info regarding their latest release so the mod can update the chart.
WM6 ROM cooking is not a competition. There is no "best" ROM atm and there will never be. Each ROM has its own characteristics and suits to different people and needs!
IMHO, there should be a cooperation of all cookers (or non-cookers), so we'll finally have the best WM6 ROM available for our phone; the WM6 for Tornado XDA-developers Edition.
So, how about closing this thread and starting a new one with hints/instructions on adding new features to our ROMs, fixing existing bugs , customizing and cooking our own ROMs? How about a Pimp My WM6 ROM discussion?
NiTroGenious said:
WM6 ROM cooking is not a competition. There is no "best" ROM atm and there will never be. Each ROM has its own characteristics and suits to different people and needs!
IMHO, there should be a cooperation of all cookers (or non-cookers), so we'll finally have the best WM6 ROM available for our phone; the WM6 for Tornado XDA-developers Edition.
So, how about closing this thread and starting a new one with hints/instructions on adding new features to our ROMs, fixing existing bugs , customizing and cooking our own ROMs? How about a Pimp My WM6 ROM discussion?
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i agree with your point mate!
Well, at least now what we can do is to improve each other's ROM, since all of us are from different time zone
@Nitro just wanted to say that i never used the word "best" lol, i used better! i agree with you though, about you cookers working together to create perfect rom!
Well how about an informative post for the ROMS.
Maybe ROM listing then all bugs and what works what doesnt so then the cookers can take parts of each others roms tto make the perfect ROM ?
Just an idea
DSF said:
The best out there is:
WM6 English 5.2.1616.18120 by NiTroGen.
It has the new build on and interesting features from andot's ROM.
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Agreed, I am running this one and am very pleased. Been 3 weeks now.
Now I've just flashed EA's ROM (same build as NiTroGen's one) .
It has a lot of new options in Settings (. Just the Start Menu options (from NiTroGen and andot's ROMs ) is missing.
It has 19.64MB free storage space after the first reboot. But it does not have bundled some useful apps such as: LowLight, WM5torage..
Ah, and EA's one doesn't have Wireless Manager in the QuickList . I personally like Wireless Manager.
DSF said:
The best out there is:
WM6 English 5.2.1616.18120 by NiTroGen.
It has the new build on and interesting features from andot's ROM.
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So for people currently running Andots rom would you say its worth the swith over to this rom ?
What is noticable different ?
Does the Media playser still work perfect like andots ?
i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance
prawns said:
i have been using wm6.1 lately for nncuon n ranju but i m not satisified with it as it in its initial stages of development....n i m fed up of the problems...so i m requesting u to suggest roms which is
1.stable
2.fast
3.doesnt requier too much of resets
4.dont wish to format my phone for another rom for atleast a year
5.please give me the link for it or suggest the roms so i cud find myself..
6.i know all roms are not the best but the cookers but do suggest me the best of the best with little problems if they persist..
thanks in advance
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After Reading your message, I think I like you very much, can you do me favor and provide me with winning Lottery numbers for coming Saturday and please make sure I win at least 10million EU and above. thanks
furthermore dont take my message to personal, it is getting to bored here in Universal forum. cheers mate
i would have asked the same as Prawns -- I am afraid Uni is for Hobbyists only
Since the Uni never had an HTC-build of WM6, ALL ROMs are cooked from versions for other devices.
There are NO definitive drivers that are guaranteed to work 100% correctly 100% of the time, because HTC never released them.
So - if you want total stability, and total reliability, go find a totally vanilla WM5 ROM - that'll give you that (but none of the 'extras').
If the only thing you really want from WM6.1 is the Office 2007-compatible Office Mobile stuff, then either build a WM5 ROM with that in-place, or look around - I'm pretty sure some of the WM5 cooked ROMs have that in them.
If you want all the latest & greatest, bells & whistles, then you've got to put up with the facts that:
a) There may be problems - these are being cooked by a single developer working pretty much in the dark, NOT by a development team.
b) The ROM likely won't have exactly the feature-set you want to see -- if you want that, either approach a cooker directly with an offer to pay him/her for it, or build it yourself (which is what I'm doing). Yes - it's a painful, time-consuming process, but at least you'll learn something - I sure am!
Just my opinion.....
-PJC
Has anyone seems Kavanna's WM 6.1 version for the T-Mo Dash?? It's awesome. I'd love it if someone was able to come up with something similar on the Wing...
here's the link with pics
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374890
That is WM6.1 STANDARD no Professional!
ok...so what's the big deal with that? It doesnt matter to me what's on it. I LOVE the layout of the home screen...if someone wanted to cook a rom that looked similar that would be awesome...
EDIT: I've searched thru the ROM's on this site and didnt find anything i liked. i dont like any of the opentouch stsuff or the touch-it stuff...i think maybe ill just go back to the dash/excalibur. I think i liked that phone better than the Wing/Herald
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ok...so what's the big deal with that? It doesnt matter to me what's on it. I LOVE the layout of the home screen...if someone wanted to cook a rom that looked similar that would be awesome...
EDIT: I've searched thru the ROM's on this site and didnt find anything i liked. i dont like any of the opentouch stsuff or the touch-it stuff...i think maybe ill just go back to the dash/excalibur. I think i liked that phone better than the Wing/Herald
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The software is incompatible with our phones because it's for a different TYPE of OS altogether. That's why he mentioned it. Not that professional means better. Professional means that it has the touchscreen version of Windows Mobile which is very different from the "standard" version of Windows Mobile. It's like telling a person to that you don't care that it's an XBOX360, it runs an NT kernel, so you want to be able to run a windows XP app on it. You can't just run the app, it has to be modified at the code level to work. That software was created by microsoft, so we do not have the source code to modify it.
Therefore, that's a standard phone, this is a professional. Everyone has their preference.
On a side note: If you're talking about TouchIT, you must be looking at some old ROMs... itje hasn't posted anything in a long time. Are you looking at Manila2D ROMs?
I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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WHY should we impelment a TOdayscreen that is ONLY be used by joystick...when we (WM Professional) have a touchscreen!
Go to abtterystatus theme thread and see if someone copied the desinge with the touchscreen functionality...but i don´t know...
ANd threadded SMS can be added via .cab i think...or just install WM6.1 on your Wing!!!!
When tat is all you want...you really don´t know what device you have...cause you are running a wing with WM6 or WM5....
IF you ever have tested any of our roms you would see that a WIng is 1000times better thatn a Device without touchscreen.
good greif all i asked was a simple question and things get blown outta porportion. Ive read this forum for 6 months before i signed up knewing that this sort of thing would happen. Now it has...last time i will ask a question on this site ever...
Ive had MANY, MANY, MANY smartpones and used cooked rooms on all of them. I know that the Dash is not a touch screen phone and that the moving crystal look is for it's jogger bar...I'm just saying plain and simple...I LIKE THE LOOK of the sliding glass. im sure that the animation could be done weather is touch screen or not...
but with that said I do believe i finally found a ROM that I will enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399300
Im not into the entire fancy looking iphone ease of use stuff. I just like simple nice looking software. That's all i was trying to say...sorry for any confusion.
Ok!
Hey, its ok guys! I can see where papa is comming from. He spends alot of time making ROMs at the cost of his free time and effort and you kind of came across as a little demanding and abrasive. Alot of people started from the dash and ended up getting a wing/herald and are proud of the progress that has been made to further development on this phone, myself included! There are tons more options available as far as ROMs and UI for the Wing than the Dash, I know because I have both and just flashed my Dash again lastnight after waiting for about 4 months for a new ROM to come out! As far as my Wing, well I cant even keep up with the leaps and bounds in development on that! There has been alot of tention around here about people just poping up a demanding things without having bothered to try to look aroud and find it for themselves or bother to learn to do it themselves! So dont take it personaly if you get flamed or someone doesn't see things the way you do! Just decide to learn from it. You cant go wrong learning something new! Who knows, you could be the next new ROM chef for the Wing/Herald! That would ROCK!
we NEVER flamed someone...but the thread title "ROM request" ...this is not a "i wish for christmas present show" it is hard work...and there are thousand of threads relating the debatte about standard looking and professional WM6.1....
and it allways ended the same answer...: there is no rom looking like that..because it is not sensefull!!!!!
that´s all!
Sorry!
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we NEVER flamed someone...but the thread title "ROM request" ...this is not a "i wish for christmas present show" it is hard work...and there are thousand of threads relating the debatte about standard looking and professional WM6.1....
and it allways ended the same answer...: there is no rom looking like that..because it is not sensefull!!!!!
that´s all!
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Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you flamed anyone! I was just trying to let the guy know that instead of getting offended he could put some effort into learning and not as you said write a christmas list. My bad! See, I learned! I am always grateful for everything you have done papamops! I meant no slight to you or what you said!
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Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you flamed anyone! I was just trying to let the guy know that instead of getting offended he could put some effort into learning and not as you said write a christmas list. My bad! See, I learned! I am always grateful for everything you have done papamops! I meant no slight to you or what you said!
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I don´t feel you meant me...so nothing to say sorry for....
espacially you don´t have to say sorry...you jsut wanted to open his eys
trav2001 said:
I was on the Herald Rom Development forum and went thru the Rom's Reveiwed by Pureskilzzz...It's got a lot of ROMs on it, but all of them are either all black themes, which i dont want, or the open touch iphone style stuff that I i dont really like either. I really want to get threaded messaging back, i used to have a treo 750, and the Dash I had upgraded to the Kavanna WM 6.1 and the threades SMS on there was amazing...
I'm not saying that i prefer the standard over the professioanl version. Im saying that like the way Kavanna did the home screen. With the sliding glass panes and the way it's set up. If that could be implemented into a Wing ROM would be awesome. if not, then ill stick with the WM 6.0 version i currently have my wing.
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Most of those ROMs are older. Threaded messaging is built into all of the WM6.1 ROMs. Search for a Manila2D ROM for a "sliding" pane setup. The reason for pointing out the professional and standard was just to point out that it's incompatible and part of the WM6.1 of standard phones, not something that was created by that cook. I'm sorry if it sounded like I was flaming.
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if I can use the 6.1 ROMs on my Kaiser or am I limited to 6.0 ROMs?
I tried to download the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade from HTC but when I enter my Serial No. it says its unsuitable for my phone.
I bought it on ebay and its full of rubbish and seems heavily tampered and has lots of querky things going on - so I thought I would just flash it with one of your ROMs. I don't want to 'brick' it if 6.1 is incompatible. I have spent days reading the (astoundingly detailed) FAQ's but, maybe 'cos I'm dumb and don't understand the difference between ROM and OS, I'm worried I will trash the phone if HTC say its incompatible.
I'm rambling now because what I don't really know is whether A ROM includes OS or sits on top of OS.
Regards,
JN
You can, of course, use 6.1 roms on your kaiser. I suggest you just go to the kaiser section, read a bit, and find yourself a nice ROM.. the kaiser section is flooded with ROMs.. and good ones
Thanks for replying. I found several posts today from people who have trouble with screen touch alignment and wondered if there was a hardware incompatibility with some Kaiser's and WM 6.1. Also, I found the answer to my question about ROMs and OS in Q1 of the Kaiser ROM Flashing FAQ which I had already read but obviously not taken in.
I shall give one a try then.
Many thanks,
I'd suggest giving a few.. until you get it right
LOL
Ok then. What are the chances of totalling the phone? Mind You, I've got to the point where if I junk it I won't care too much. So I shall just have some fun.
Thanks for the reassurance and advice.
You should be able to hard reset if everything fails...which should save you in the worst case situation... I beleive though from reading up on it if you unlock your phone with HARDSPL it is supposed to stop you from being able to brick your phone
First of all, try try a few roms without spling more than once, find the hardspl guide for kaiser in the kaiser forum and hardspl it so you can flash as many roms as you like.
afterwards, just start flashing roms. bricking a device isn't that common if you do things properly. make sure all roms you flash are meant for kaiser..
Thanks again for the help and advice, which I have followed - I've applied HARDSPL as recommended. I've only had a chance to apply one ROM so far (AtheneOS WWE) which looks fantastic IMHO but I have what seems like a radio problem as I have no sound. So I shall have a go now at different radios I suppose? That's what most of the replies to posts seem to suggest for lack of sound after flashing. Its easier than I thought this lark - I can see this may be habit forming though
Great stuff you guys .
JN
Another Happy (rom) Flasher!
lol. go ahead and enjoy flashing.