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A BLOND FEMALE EXTREME NOOB DID IT!
My friends said I couldn’t do it. Mostly my male friends. All my girl friends supported me, but the general consensus was being female and being blond, I would have a hard time. LOL Well, I started by reading, reading, reading and READING on here for the past few weeks and finally got my ATT&T tilt a yesterday. I read and studied so much on this forum, I was practically bursting at the seams to put into practice what I had been studying night and day for the last 3 weeks or so. I also want to say THANKS THANKS THANKS to this forum and all who participate especially the moderators and senior members who read and wade with suspicious eyes (will this be a redundant post, they think), but who also assuage with empathetic concern for the worn out and battered, but otherwise persevered noob. I DID IT! I DID IT!
Like all mentors, they try to instill in all noobs like me a virtual sense of responsibility and accomplishment by not giving up information so readily and thus fostering a sense of, ‘pull yourself up by your own bootstraps’ kind of reasoning as they have been there and done that and you have not. Depending on your situation, this can be either good news or bad news. For those like me with a fundamental understanding and an ounce of technical aptitude, it is certainly good news. For others, it’s an emotional roller coaster ride and I feel sorry for all who go through such hell. KNOW YOUR BOUNDARIES AND LIMITATIONS! If you buy a phone you have no business owning because you think it’s cool looking only to find out that it’s really meant for the corporate power user variety and those who possess a higher than normal level of gadgetry prowess, what do you expect? Add to that , if you’re not technically savvy enough to operate it and install everything, what would be the point because eventually you would realize all you really have is an expensive phone and how you keep wishing you could get it to look like the ATT&T tilts you see on you tube.
I THINK I AM THE MOST EXTREME NOOB OUT THERE AND I AM FEMALE AND BLOND….TWO STEREOTYPES IN ONE!!
BUT…I was able to do it all on my own (Kicked boyfriend to the curb several weeks prior so didn’t want to ask him) with the exception of one thing which I have been working on and will continue to work on until all options are exhausted. Then I will post. I am 98% done and I chose Dutty’s 6.1. I really like it. I got through the white screen, made it through the compatible radio thingy, changed my military clock to regular (I’ve seen many posts on this), I installed he keyboard fix, enabled touchflo (I love it!) and so much more. I have one more pretty important thing I need to do, but as I said, I will keep reading before I post on here. Probably something I did.
I wanted to post on here so badly yesterday while I was installing just like everyone else does, but unlike those who do post, I decided to just keep at it and kept on reading and learning. I am soooo glad I did because now the whole install means more to me. I mean, I appreciate it more, the process. If you're just given something, how can you really respect or appreciate the accomplishment or end result?
THE ANSWERS ARE OUT THERE. Yes. It does take some due diligence on your part, but damn, you are getting this invaluable information for FREE. Free I tell you. What more do you want? All that is required is your time and willingness to learn. Has the fabric of society weakened so much that it has generated a new breed of lazy? Seriously? Could it be as simple as stupid is stupid or how about even willing stupidity? You either have the mental capacity to process and implement the information or you do not. It’s that simple. Period. I try to know the technical ins and outs of Quantum Mechanics which is why you would never see me lecturing on the theories of general relativity and quantum mechanics and their applied actions in the world of physics. I do know however, that riding a bike downhill will cause it to go faster and that each step I take forward puts me one step closer than the previous and pretty soon if I keep putting each foot in front of the other and walking, I’ll end up where I want to be. Having no or limited knowledge, I could end up in a rough area of town or because I have knowledge of the geographic area, it would likely be that shoe store who is having the amazing sale - Two different places and two different outcomes. One would lead to my own personal happiness (the shoe store sale) and the other to a potential statistic depending on the area of town you happen find yourself. You choose.
And to add a little further bit of my scintillating educational content to this subject, I’ll bring out the, "How to tell if something is complicated and over your head, even without understanding it, in case you can't be convinced by the fact that it actually IS complicated and over your head" kit. Opening the box, I take out two long, bare copper wires, and I put one in each of your hands. Onto my own hands I put thick rubber gloves. Now, I turn to you and demand, "Explain electricity", which is, you gotta admit, simple enough if you understand anything about electricity. But if you get it even partially wrong (with grammar and posture counting towards your total points!), I cruelly jam the other ends of those copper wires into the wall electrical outlet and let the local power company give you (zzzzt!) the lesson of your stupid life about how complicated things which are over your head and you know nothing about can be very frustrating and expensive for you! Not just with this phone, but in life. Remember that.
Finally, I want to say thank you again. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
I am a firm believer in determination. Sweat equity, pays dividends and the feeling of accomplishment waving over me at this moment dwarfs the learning curve and frustration involved with doing it on my own. It can be scary. Anything first new or foreign is scary to a person; A new job, a new relationship, etc. It is only once you become proficient that you wonder how you were ever afraid of falling off in the first place.
Just some good food for thought!
~GWEN
May I be the first to say Congrats. Read this n00bs. It can be done.
Will you marry me?
gwen, just to let you know
jarek is gay j/k - hes just a little cranky.
With an avatar like that, what else could he be hehehe JK.
Well done gwen. and welcone to the community
ciao
Joao.
P1Tater said:
gwen, just to let you know
jarek is gay j/k - hes just a little cranky.
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Welll....I am still having problems and I am not a noob....OR SO I THOUGHT.
I did a HARD-SPL successfully but I cannot load Dutty's ROM. Error [240] Update Utility is not correct.
I have looked everywhere and cannot find this....
Anyways....congrats and I am going back to looking!!
Gwen,
I LOVE YOU!!!
Fabulous first post, if you are ever in the Chicago Area (which means anywhere in the North Eastern quarter of Illinois) PM me and I'll by you a drink of whatever it is you fancy!
amazing...you didn't post a new thread on why your sound wasn't working when flashing new dutty rom. Good job and welcome.
Now lets see you cook your own rom.
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Welll....I am still having problems and I am not a noob....OR SO I THOUGHT.
I did a HARD-SPL successfully but I cannot load Dutty's ROM. Error [240] Update Utility is not correct.
I have looked everywhere and cannot find this....
Anyways....congrats and I am going back to looking!!
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Good post Gwen just what we all think when we see duplicate posts in the same topic asking the same things. We are all proud of you! Good luck.
**Try flashing the rom via microSD - copy RUU_signed to root of your microSD and rename "KAISIMG.nbh" Reboot, whilst pressing power and camera buttons to go into bootloader and it'll list what is contained in the KAISIMG.nbh (i.e. Radio, Splash, OS) Press "power" to start process. Once complete soft-reset (Do a hard-reset to clear any little niggles) Done. I found this out thanks to vip_snoopy. This way you iliminate the need to use the update utility. This is the only way I flash now (Splash screens, radios and imgs), You can store several roms all with the name (KAISIMG.nbh) on your storage card (in different folders/perhaps using descriptions) then use file manager to copy the one I want to root of microSD and then flash on the go!! **Best to make sure battery is over 50% though.**
Hope this helps in letting you flash Dutty's Rom, worked for me. Thanks and credit to vip_snoopy.
diigibio (Phil)
Cool and smart (can tell by the fact that you wanted to and did it by yourself and that you can write correct and complete sentences)? Gwen, you're going to be in trouble with all the hounds around here
Just watch out. It's an addiction. I went from where you are to being obsessed with cooking my own "perfect" ROM in just a couple of months.
Welcome and congrats.
Congrats... Anything is possible with a little peepee .......No, idiot, Patience & persistence!
You're an asset to the forum because you read, listened, & learned. According to some of the posts I see (& some of the bricks I help save) this concept i consider common sense, apparently is not so...
BTW, if someone like Hillary can run for Pres., I certainly see no issue with flashing. In fact one of the best s/w engineers (mostly reverse) I know is a woman.
OMG!
SkunkyGwen said:
A BLOND FEMALE EXTREME NOOB DID IT!
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~GWEN
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In recent months, I've wondered how many females frequent this forum. Mostly because there have been lots of assumptions in the text of the messages that have been assuming everyone here is male. Nothing bad, just a simple use of the word "he" when referring to someone when there is no indication of gender to ensure accuracy.
I thought about it a bit more a few times wondering how this type of phone would appeal to females. So, I wonder if this post is authentic? Doesn't really matter to me, but it may be a little embarrassing for the dudes who have used words like "love" and "marry" in thier responses.
I few things seem a bit off....
Lots of text off subject, perhaps to support the stereotype for the claim of being blonde.
Lots of text in general, perhaps to support the stereotype of being female.
Most strange is the use of the word "female", when in most cases the use of this word seems so clinical to woman or girls.
Oh, wait! the name "skunkygwen" is so, like - not nice, I don't get it.
Anyway, just still wondering...
Increasing my Endorphins
Awww. Thanks Guys. I feel really good. I feel like I know P1Tater and Jarek91 as well as a few others just by matter of happenstance. I love some of the posts and the creative ways this forum alerts those who post to read first before asking, For instance, Jarek’s “Hey Flame Bait, read this” or the link to the ninja accessories and throwing stars. It made my searches both comedic and tolerable and kept me going knowing I would run across similarly arranged responses from Senior Members to Noobs. Jarek’s form of sarcasm which resides in countless, countless threads was refreshing and kept me laughing. From other colorful responses from senior members like P1Tater to straight shooters like _Alex_ , they make these intense searches you have to do and all the information intake bearable and if you truly do your homework and I mean truly put in the time which is mandatory, any answer you haven’t found in these forums will be answered when you post it or at least a reference to it that you may have missed. It is only the posts which these moderators and senior members have seen time after time after time, that they do not respond and when they do respond, it is in an aggressive teaching kind of way. It’s so obvious. They’re not being rude. They look at these posts EVERYDAY! How many times would you need to read something knowing that it’s been asked and answered a thousand times before? More importantly, with your limited time schedule coupled with volunteering on these boards, how long would it take you to become callus to pretty much anyone who asked such questions without even doing the most basic research yourself. Please tell me these same people are not voters.
~GWEN
P.S. I happen to like Jarek’s avatar. I’ll have to get me one too.
HELP – HELP – HELP – HELP – HELP
I was going to wait to post this, but I have been looking for the fix to get videos to work on the internet. Now before you get all disappointed and think that I am not practicing what I preach, it should be noted that I have read every available post that I know of on this subject on this forum and still cannot get it to work. It did initially work with the flashed Dutty’s 6.1 ROM.
After initially flashing Dutty’s 6.1 (I did the hard reset and restored after the flash at the alignment screen), I installed the TCP and Flashvideo next, set up my other settings and everything worked fine. No problem. Youtube videos – yep. CNN videos – A-Okay ANY INTERNET VIDEO – Good to Go - Then I got all confident like and with the feeling of Girl Power coursing through my veins, I pushed ever more forward and started messing with other customizable settings and such. You know how it is, right? LOL At one point I had my voltage meter in the upper part of the screen, my processor speed, the tray launch, etc. LOL I went so far that the little ‘ActionScreen’ at the bottom left said something like windows/ht… and that was it. It still functioned properly, but I got to the point where I needed to do a hard reset which I did and then I installed everything again from that point (TCP, Video, keyboard fix, etc). Ever since I got confident and messed with settings, I now cannot get youtube video (I had it before). I cannot get any video on the internet for that matter whereas before I started messing around, I could. I cannot get it from CNN, CBS, Youtube, etc. I have read the posts BELIEVE ME I HAVE.
Do you think re-flashing Dutty’s 6.1 ROM from my computer would fix this error or should I go back to the OEM ATT first and then back to Dutty’s 6.1 again? Do you think it could be a simple setting in my connections? I checked them and they looked okay. I mean ,the video worked fine yesterday. I thought it was maybe due to the fact that I thought I had customized the phone to the point of hard resetting which I did. Maybe that has something to do with it?
I feel dirty for even posting this questions and am disappointed at myself if the solution lies within these forums and if it is a thread I have not seen yet because I have been looking!!!
Thanks,
~Gwen
Someone did something Not sure what they did but it was something like I said right? All the men on here are pervs 75% of the comments back to the OP had some mention of "stereotyping" knock it!
install Skunkworks Flash video bundle then TCMP player should be fine. Or just use coreplayer 1.2
tomsenna said:
I thought about it a bit more a few times wondering how this type of phone would appeal to females. So, I wonder if this post is authentic? Doesn't really matter to me, but it may be a little embarrassing for the dudes who have used words like "love" and "marry" in thier responses.
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Hey, "What happens in the forum stays in the forum"...
Why be so uptight, I couldn't care less if Gwen is really Skunky or Skunky is really Gwen, bottom line is a Noobie accomplished something and we're happy.
Join the party or go home but don't piss in the punch bowl on your way out!
have u set your file associations in tcpmp?
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use the search you noob!!
j/k i dont even know wat problem are u having......that was way too long a description, i spaced out after the 1st paragraph......anyways i saw something about a reflashing to get something to work........you dont have to reflash, just do a hard reset. but before that, maybe just try reinstalling watever it was thats giving you problems
Gwen...You are my favourite nOOb
welcome to XDA
and you dont sound like a stereotype to me.
Im happy that you like it here, and im sure you will add a "touch of fun" with the kind of attitude you show.
great post, one of the best I have read in a long long time.
cheers
All F E M A L E
I wanted to take a moment to respond to Toms insinuation that I may be of the opposite gender. Not because I have to. I really don't care, but I’ll do it anyway just to establish the pecking order since this is my first real post, albeit a brief response. Point number one, why would I post on here NOW after the fact. I already have what I need. I got it myself -98% of it anyway. I never posted on here and the hard part is over for me. If I wanted to create a ruse, it would have been for the same reasons it's already been done on here...for the purposes of gaining technical support by taking advantage of the fact that most guys are horn dogs. And on this forum as well as evidenced by so, so many of these ‘gender bender’ types of posts. I chose to stay away from posting because I am an empowered woman and I do have pride and confidence in myself and my actions.
I am going to digress now. One thing you do not know about me (Why would you) is I can get kind of hot headed at times when someone makes a judgment based on a single observation. Apparently, you do not live your life as I do....probabilistically.
I still love you Toms –
~Gwen
Mod: Please feel free to move this thread anywhere you feel appropriate. I was thinking of creating it in "Off topic" but afraid they might not see it. My apology for wasting your time :-(
Anyway, Thanksgiving is around the corner for some of us in the U.S. The intention of this thread is to give some of us an opportunity to say "Thank You" to all the chefs for all their wonderful work. I know we said plenty in their ROM's thread, but this is special without clustering their thread.
I want to personally say thank you to the following chefs for their wonderful ROMs. I know there are many out there, but these are the one that I use (order of chefs has nothing to do with the quality of their ROMs. They all GRRREATT!!).
1/ Laurentius26
2/ -G-
3/ abusalza
4/ sakajati
5/ mbarvian
Thank you...Hope all of you have a wonderful Thanksgiving day (11/27/2008) from Bay Area California, whether you celebrate it or not.
Amen Brother. Thanks from Idaho!!
I agree, Thanks from California!
Plus to more chefs
i too would like to say thanks, adding Ruppy & Alex.
From Maryland USA... Happy Turkey Day to all, and to all a good night. (oh wait, that's later)
Thanks
I agree too, from Campeche, México. Regards
THXS!!!
Thank you all for your time,effort and ofcourse for the roms you keep producing and the knowledege you provide us with...I would have thrown my kaiser against the wall a 1000 times if not for you guys....
+Bengalih
Same here - THANKS TO ALL THE WONDERFUL CHEFS, YOU GUYS MAKE OUR DEVICES HAVE PRODUCTIVE PURPOSES OTHER THAN BEING A PAPER WEIGHT, THANKS AGAIN!!! - Glendale Heights, Illinois.
i would also like to thank the chefs for being the only reason an htc phone is still worth buying.
+ pdacorner
+ anthine
I also would like to say thank you to all the wonderfull works of all the chefs and moderator here from this site, i admit that without this site i wouldn't more appreciated my HTC devices. Thank you again.
Agreed! Happy thanksgiving to everybody!!! Hope we get some good thanksgiving meals! Oh wait, we might have them already
+1 All Around!! -Apologies for the insanely long Thank You post-
I had originally had a giant reply typed out then decided to do the spell check feature annnnd it promptly refreshed my page and deleted EVERY BIT OF MY REPLY!! lol
So, we'll make this relatively short:
Chefs: You guys simply OWN. Everything. Period. The end. lol I would have already destroyed my TILT had it not been for you guys and all of your insanely hard work. I've tried my hand at cooking but I've come up rather empty-handed. I managed to make a working Apache ROM but can't make a successful one for the Kaiser and I know how much work I put into trying to make it work so I can only imagine how much time and effort you guys really put into making these works of art. HTC and the various carriers really owe you guys a hhuuggee THANK YOU and wouldn't kill them to toss you guys a few dollars here and there for what you guys do. While PDAs may be popular in the business world, XDA and all the chefs and contributers have made them something that new phone users all the way to uber tech geeks would love. I do believe that had it not been for this site and all the people involved that a LOT more people would be stuck with generic phones (not to knock companies like Samsung, LG, Sony Ericsson, Apple...ok...so I'll bash Apple for hours lol...but HTC has all but run away with the PDA market and I love it) that wouldn't or couldn't do half of what they want. A big complaint I hear from people is that the stock PDA ROMs are too hard to work with or is just too much phone but once they see what all customizations that XDA offers and just how easy this place has made it to break free of crummy stocks then they jump at the chance to have a phone that they both love and can effectively use so, with that being said:
HTC!!! SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE!!! THEY KEEP YOU EMPLOYED AND KEEP YOUR PHONES FLYING OFF THE SHELF!!!
=]
I do believe that this site should be on the company payroll lol
One of my biggest reason that I stuck w/ my TILT was the fact that I stumbled across this site while looking up info on it and was THRILLED to see what all I could do with it. (All we need now is a motion sensor and some REAL 3D drivers **hint hint hint hint @ HTC** and TRUE TouchFlo 3D support lol)
Anyways, so much for that being short =]
I just appreciate you guys so much more than you'll ever know.
There have been soooo many times that I have wanted to simply DESTROY my TILT for not having something or not doing what it's supposed to but then I hop on here and VIOLA! I find just what I needed to know to fix it.
I don't think I've ever been as happy with a phone as I have been with my TILT and I've owned a LOT of phones and even used to work for a third-party retailer of AT&T and Sprint phones so I got to play with a LOT of different phones (which include the Samsung Instinct, the LG Vu, the Palm Centro, a trillion different variations of Sony Ericssons, several BlackBerrys and even the oh-so-disappointing Apple iPhone) and I always laughed when people asked me which phone I owned and when I pulled it out of the case they'd all just stare at it and drool over it (and it's nicely customized ROM. No more ugly stock rom =D ) Needless to say that I think me carrying my TILT around at work probably killed a few of our phone sales since the only place we offered it was online and the AT&T corp store had it in-store lol
So thank you, thank you, and THANK YOU!! =]
You guys rock!
Happy Turkey Day to all from the great state of Alabama and here's to all of the awesome people here in our XDA family!
NOW GO EAT SOME TURKEY!!!!!!!!!!
I just picked up my first PPC, the FUZE like a week and a half ago... knew nothing about flashing or even installing apps. Flashed ROMeOS yesterday and am loving it!
Thank Chefs!! Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone
I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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Well I can't wait for froyo + full file system lag fix
If you're not satisfied with the current rate of development, feel free to put together your own rom or even contribute to current development. The phone is what, two, three months old? Some phones didn't even have root methods for that long. If you wanted an att device that had a background of strong community hacking, should have gone with an htc device. The method of building roms on this phone is massively different and requires time to get everything sorted. And I'm willing to believe a lot of devs are waiting fur for the 2.2 source
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Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.
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Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.
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You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"
Looks to me like you are a good candidate to get in the kitchen and start cooking. That way you don't have to wait around for the roms and we can all play.
I don't think it's a matter of lightening up, I agree the op surely said "where are the roms?" That could have ben interpreted more than one way, which it was. Coming from the op of the forum nazi thread, sounds like you have plenty of time to start cooking and stop whining
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I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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alphadog00 said:
I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"
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Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.
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Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.
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Hey gunny, I know how you feel. I too am a bit bored. The rom development is great so far but that's starting to reach it's limit with what devs can do while we wait for froyo. I would love something new to play with. Maybe flash or some awesome game to come along that really pushes this device. Gps fix from sammysung would be nice. I could drive around using that to kill some boredom.
Anyway, props to the devs. Thank god we have some good ones. I would have been bored weeks ago without and with a laggy phone on top of that.
I understand both sides but unfortunately unless you know how to dev we all must be patient. These guys have done very good work and so far it is right on par with the Vibrant, and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS. With more time will come better products, and all Galaxy S phones will be waiting for a while for 2.2. If Cyanogen comes out soon it shouldn't be hard for Eugene or someone to make a port of it, even if Eugene does not own a Captivate.
There's no need to fight guys, in all seriousness we have the best touch-screen phone on the whole market!
Gorgeous screen, specs, and soon to be a great international community of devs with the whole family of galaxy s line sharing ideas and accelerating the growth of development at a great pace.
Not to mention the soon to be implemented froyo that will not only introduce optimizations and flash, but also allow for a greater use of the phone's potential- spec wise.
Take into consideration the further development after froyo + full lag fix + a COMMUNITY effort of collaboration and I see a really bright future ahead of us.
Personally I LOVE my phone, it does everything I want it to do (I multi-task like a beast!!) BEAUTIFUL camera software.. I painlessly take panoramic shots! What more can you ask for?
Yes some high quality games compared to that of the iphone would be great, but the anti-piracy measures are not on par with the iphone at the moment, so we'll have to wait a little for the big-name app/game developers to step in.
Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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This thread sucks.
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This thread sucks.
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I for one am enjoying the calm before the storm. That is, before froyo and CM6.1 are released, and all the subsequent hacking that will go with it.
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Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"
Dude. Quit reading into stuff that isn't there. As for donated monies, I have indeed done so in the past. Lots. I HAVE NOT (REPEATING AGAIN) disparaged anyone or their work in my thread or any post I have ever made hear on XDA (feel free to search) If I am complaining about anything it's samsung, And YOU at the moment.
I'll say again then I'm done in this thread. Lighten up Francis.
Kaik541 said:
I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"
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Everyone take 5 deep breaths......
Better now?
And Kaik, I am NOT directing this at you personally, just used your quote. This is meant as a general comment not directed at any specific person....
Ok, I clicked on this thread because I could have written it myself, as it was intended. Which was obviously "Ok, I tried all the mods and now I want to try a new one or an update of 1 I already have."
For instance, as you can see from my signature, I run sre123. Last night, Designgears posted that 123a would be posted that night. I thought nothing of saying "ooo, can't wait, please hurry!!!" because DG knows how I meant it (I hope).
I have only seen a couple of REAL jerk posts, and those were like "hey thanks, your mod/rom broke my phone" idiots. Read the OP's and mod and your own risk, fools!
I have NEVER programmed. I understand what gets done here, having been a pc tech, but I can ONLY help by installing and testing and reporting results. This device and this forum has inspired me to try to learn what the guys like Cyanogen, Designgears, Eugene etc do. But until I learn, I will eagerly await new stuff to play with, much like the OP of this thread.
Sorry to type so long a note, but the ONLY thing that can ruin this forum is nazi's. I live in S Florida, got enough condo and homeowner association nazi's to deal with !!! =)
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..., and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS.....
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I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?
I want the GPS fix. All Galaxy S phones come with a nonfunctioning GPS. Froyo will be great to have also but they need hurry up with the GPS. The Droid X and all Motorola Android phones have an awesome GPS out of the box. I'm hoping Samsung gets it together otherwise they're not worth buying if it lacks a feature that most phones nowadays have. This problem from Samsung shows they rush things out to fast and then once they're out they fail to repair phones currently released.
I'll be eating my words if an update gets released within a week though.
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I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?
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From what I have read about Dev's and Tmobile is mainly because Tmob was the first to have Android. Lots of them are familiar from being already on Tmob. But that is just what I have read, does not necessarily make it correct. The dev's for the Captivate are doing a phenomenal job getting us great products.
Highlighted portion: Joking aside since I know you are, if people are impatient they really should start learning how to do this stuff. The intent of the thread missed the mark based on how it was written. We all want more ROM's or theme's or launchers etc...and they are coming but nobody has any say to be impatient when the majority of these dev's do these on a donation basis. How bad would it suck when people continue to feel impatient and the dev's decide to not dev anymore?
Chingy has done a phenominal job in answering questions and putting hours upon hours of work th
Deuch bag' and some sorry intellectual just ruined a great developer over at XDA. This is not Mcdonald and fast food (you get it when you want)....There are a lot of strategy and redudencency that overlap to creat your custom ROM or Kernel. I'm tired of reading thesethreads. Google search what you a looking for and it will come to hear. Don't be Jack Ass and feel tough on forum. No one wants to fight in keyboards language If you are upset sound respectible....sound like man.
Sean
Enough. This subject had been beaten to death before this post.
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Smells like troll in here
I was just waiting for it to come down to this. I get the feeling I'm one of the few that read every post in the threads for Incredibly Re-engineered, The Perfect Storm, and Gingeritus up until the holiday weekend began. It's not like the guy just had a bad day. It's more like for a couple months now people were getting way outta line with him about how he built his ROMs. Go over and read the thread for IR. As long ago as last year he was dealing with slugs that didn't read the OP. One of the reasons he put the wipe script in there was because of all the idiots flashing without wiping, then posting how his ROM sucked and had all kinds of issues, like it was his fault. I've flashed his ROMs onto many different phones, flawlessly, and everytime I hand the phone back to the owner they're like "Wow! This thing is FAST!" Yeah, maybe this subject is a dead horse, but it really bothers me how folks treat one another sometimes, especially when the bad attitude comes from a moron directed at someone basically giving gifts away. The mere thought of doing what these guys do makes me want to sever major arteries in my body. But, I'm sure glad they like it because I like the results! I could gripe about how the home screens are full of icons and widgets nobody would use, or the lack of some features like wireless tether in some ROMs, or the screen brightness, or the kernel he packed with it, but is there a point? No. I'm some nobody that stumbled across his work one day and thought "Gosh! This is top drawer work!" When someone puts there heart and time into something and applies the skills acquired over years, it shows. It shows in Chingy's work all the way back to Re-engineered for the EVO. I completely understand how he'd feel reading some of the posts on his threads. I would probably have done the same thing, except sooner. Sometimes I wonder why there aren't as many devs here as I'd like to see, especially for kernels, but I don't need to wonder long. I've screwed up my phone before. I've gotten pissed because it looked like some dev couldn't do anything right, but the reality is if his work was that bad, it wouldn't have been posted long enough for me to download. So I point the finger at me. Sometimes trying to get something to work just pisses me off because I'm not a dev, or even that wise to this stuff in general. Restore a nandroid and keep on having a good day. Pretty simple. It's hard to believe that's too hard for everyone to do! I feel bad for Chingy. More than a couple folks have gotten ugly with him over a long span of time. Gingeritus 1.1 is out now. I'm gonna go get that and continue enjoying how CHINGY, and ONLY CHINGY, believes a sense ROM should work.
If you cannot handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Just sayin.
adrynalyne said:
If you cannot handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Just sayin.
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Amen! You would think some people would get it since this is a "developers" site.
If they wanted roms that were "official" then they need to stay outta here and frequent the Carrier forums.
Maybe we should give them all goverment cheese to go with their whine!
adrynalyne said:
If you cannot handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Just sayin.
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Dude, you are a dev yourself. Why would you make snide remarks about a fellow dev? You have the temperament of a pregnant rhino and expect your peers to take **** while you go about posting comments about them in their threads like you did with virus? What is wrong with you?
This has nothing to do with you. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Focus on making your roms better, not being a catty old lady.
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khanam said:
Dude, you are a dev yourself. Why would you make snide remarks about a fellow dev? You have the temperament of a pregnant rhino and expect your peers to take **** while you go about posting comments about them in their threads like you did with virus? What is wrong with you?
This has nothing to do with you. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Focus on making your roms better, not being a catty old lady.
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"Keep your thoughts to yourself"..? You clearly don't understand the definition of the word forum
khanam said:
Dude, you are a dev yourself. Why would you make snide remarks about a fellow dev? You have the temperament of a pregnant rhino and expect your peers to take **** while you go about posting comments about them in their threads like you did with virus? What is wrong with you?
This has nothing to do with you. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Focus on making your roms better, not being a catty old lady.
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Go away troll, no one cares what you have to say.
To the OP... cool story bro... sounds like a remix to a thread from the other day
That was the worst reading I've experienced in years! Made me feel like I was in 2nd grade once again reading a friend's book report! That's 15 seconds of my life I'll never get back...
I hear if you have a sandy vag you can go to www.hellokittyonline.com and be comforted.
Seanren78 said:
Chingy has done a phenominal job in answering questions and putting hours upon hours of work th
Deuch bag' and some sorry intellectual just ruined a great developer over at XDA. This is not Mcdonald and fast food (you get it when you want)....There are a lot of strategy and redudencency that overlap to creat your custom ROM or Kernel. I'm tired of reading thesethreads. Google search what you a looking for and it will come to hear. Don't be Jack Ass and feel tough on forum. No one wants to fight in keyboards language If you are upset sound respectible....sound like man.
Sean
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My head hurt just reading through this post. Isn't there a spell check built-in?
kriskmk said:
My head hurt just reading through this post. Isn't there a spell check built-in?
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LOL, there is this guy at work who has to be the worst speller on the planet.
Anyways, one day I told him, "You know there is a spelling checker you can use when you send emails, right?"
He says, "I know, I used it!", LOL. Don't know where he got his spelling checker but he needed to get a new one. Maybe this person is using the same spelling checker?
Nothing to see here, move along. It's all ancient history now. Mods should lock this thread, there is nothing to be gained, and only serves as troll bait.
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khanam said:
Dude, you are a dev yourself. Why would you make snide remarks about a fellow dev? You have the temperament of a pregnant rhino and expect your peers to take **** while you go about posting comments about them in their threads like you did with virus? What is wrong with you?
This has nothing to do with you. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Focus on making your roms better, not being a catty old lady.
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These same "fellow" devs say the same snide remarks towards me. There is no code of honor.
That said, if you cannot stand the pressure of some dickhead users, then hang up the title belt. That goes for any dev, including myself. I mean I could get mad and retreat to my own forum because you called me a catty old lady, but I don't have that thin of skin. Sorry.
As for the virus issue, that was effing ridiculous because the dev jumped on me, and he didn't even take the time to read ahead of time and see what the deal was, and that I was dealing with accusations of kanging. QUITE the different issue.
Deving anything in the android community requires thick skin. Sure I get mad. But I have not yet picked up my ball and gone home. The day I do, it won't be for reasons that a user got butt hurt for not reading.
adrynalyne said:
These same "fellow" devs say the same snide remarks towards me. There is no code of honor.
That said, if you cannot stand the pressure of some dickhead users, then hang up the title belt. That goes for any dev, including myself. I mean I could get mad and retreat to my own forum because you called me a catty old lady, but I don't have that thin of skin. Sorry.
As for the virus issue, that was effing ridiculous because the dev jumped on me, and he didn't even take the time to read ahead of time and see what the deal was, and that I was dealing with accusations of kanging. QUITE the different issue.
Deving anything in the android community requires thick skin. Sure I get mad. But I have not yet picked up my ball and gone home. The day I do, it won't be for reasons that a user got butt hurt for not reading.
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well said..
adrynalyne said:
These same "fellow" devs say the same snide remarks towards me. There is no code of honor.
That said, if you cannot stand the pressure of some dickhead users, then hang up the title belt. That goes for any dev, including myself. I mean I could get mad and retreat to my own forum because you called me a catty old lady, but I don't have that thin of skin. Sorry.
As for the virus issue, that was effing ridiculous because the dev jumped on me, and he didn't even take the time to read ahead of time and see what the deal was, and that I was dealing with accusations of kanging. QUITE the different issue.
Deving anything in the android community requires thick skin. Sure I get mad. But I have not yet picked up my ball and gone home. The day I do, it won't be for reasons that a user got butt hurt for not reading.
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+1 I'm not sure I've read a Dev. thread yet that the developer hasn't taken sh$t from one or more quick trigger flashers that don't read the entire OP first.
sublimaze said:
Nothing to see here, move along. It's all ancient history now. Mods should lock this thread, there is nothing to be gained, and only serves as troll bait.
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considering the 12 step process to report a thread or post, I doubt a mod will even see this...
Wooooow smh...all the tag teaming goin on!!!
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Nefariouss said:
I hear if you have a sandy vag you can go to www.hellokittyonline.com and be comforted.
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I think I may have found my new favorite MMO! lol
wow i cant believe all the negativity!
I decided to poke around through some of the old threads here (only been on this forum since February) and i was shocked to see all the insults misconduct!
from the time i started tracking this forum i have seen nothing but nice and respectful people much like most of the other forums i frequent in xda.
I mean its not all too shocking this phone never got off the ground too much, anytime someone attempted and failed everyone attacked them for trying!
and when people did do some good they copy righted their work (HA!) so others cant use it? Okay i get it that no one should use anothers work without permission... but copyright pending :silly:
And maybe im mistaken but from what ive seen people were mostly using others hard work and then hardly giving them a highfive for it? i mean i never ask for thanks or donations or anything, really i dont care if people use my work or not, but i understand that many really want praise and they should get it when they work hard to make something.
Okay, like i said ive only been here a few months and i dont know the ins and outs of the Sidekick xda threads, but really a lot of childish bickering over nonsense... i guess im posting because im wondering if thats reall what this was like? i dont want to read every thread here but it sure appears to be an awful lot of name calling hair pulling. makes me think this kept good devs away....
eh just some thought, brakes done, time to get bake to studying for finals!
I think everyone posting is just in a constant bad mood because they have this really awesome piece of hardware, dated though it is, which is running an OS which keeps crashing on them 'cos they dared to open Google Maps or something else radical like that.
Yerp :/
I agree and I disagree.
aithnea may be right, but it doesn't make it okay. I have heard from many here that it was because of all the kids with their new SK4G barking orders and all the b****ing and complaining about progress. Now I won't lie, I am still hoping that something can pull through for us here with our Sidekicks, but I don't dare poke anybody around and bug them about leeway they have made. D: I don't like to deter the people we leave our hopes with on getting our device cooked up and made into the beauty it could be. I'm very greatful for RicAndroid and all of these cool new roms he has made, I give him many thanks and many props
As for the language, yes, horrible attitudes galore on these forums. I don't know how many times I have seen a member call a new member stupid or worse because they don't know where to start. I know they should look better, but come on. Be a little respectful huh?
I would love to get a taste of some real CM7 on the Sidekick, it truly is a good device, just we need that chance again. I wonder what bhundven is up to right now? 0.0
This forum is like any other: we need to be respectful and police ourselves. If we witness bad behavior, we should respectfully call it out or report it to the mods. When the devs go to the trouble of putting out ROMs or people answer each other's questions, we should at least thank them for it.
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