Hello all,
I've been browsing around and looking at PDAs for sometime now yet I've seen everything I want but not in one device.
I am looking for a PDA/Phone (WM6 support please) with integrated GPS, wifi and Bluetooth. My other aim is to be able to use my PDA as a mp3/video player. I have been looking at the p3300 for sometime now yet there has been no developments with SDHC which I assumed would come once WM6 ROM had been released by HTC. Can someone please shed a little bit of light on the difference between microSD and minisd? I see the HTC touch supports 6gb high capcity miniSD. I've not decided about wanting a QWERTY keyboard yet, I was originally put off but the added weight and thickness - yet tonight I am drawn to it!
Many thanks
JC
htc touch is not for heavy sms-ing.
Transflash is microSD
read: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/14/transflash_is_microsd/
htc touch has
1GB micro SD card included
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/compatible-memory/Mobile_Phones/HTC/HTC_Touch
" Can someone please shed a little bit of light on the difference between microSD and minisd"
yep apples are various colours and in many ways differ from oranges in general
http://www.phonemag.com/images/cellphones/SD_miniSD_microSD.jpg
Ah ok then, sorry i didnt clock their size difference! So any ideas on suitable PDA
s other than the xda orbit?
Thank you
not sure if trinity does micro hcsd
otherwise poraris when it comes out is an option
and kaiser if you want keyboard
too bad that by the time that the cool sdio devices come out
for diff cards the std have changed :S
Ah I am sorry, I'm not actually fussed what card it uses but microSD seems to be the most popular one at the moment - the only problem being that devices arent supporting the SDHC type. What was wrong with good old SD cards eh?
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Recently i had in my hands for a week a XDAIII baby, and i really liked the sensation of having integrated wifi on it. So i decided to put wifi in my XDAII. The main problem is that with the scandisk sd wifi card i will have to allways remove the 1gb sd, put the wifi sd, etc ... etc ...
So i thougth to sell my XDAII and buy a new XDAIII.
1st I don't like very much the XDA III design. I think the XDAII is much pretier than is sucessor.
The keyboard i will never use because i use letter recognition, so i will spend my money only for the wifi integrated.
By the way i read some benchs that the XDA II is a little faster than is sucessor, so i din't like very much the ideia of spend money for not a better PDA at all.
By this time i thought, that o could install a backpack in my XDAII, and use it with a CF wifi card, and leave my 1gb SD in the slot. I will gain the TV out, i could put one of that cool 4gb microdrive from the muvo player when not connected by wofo, and i will add more baterry life to my baby.
The only problem, is what you allready know ... The exagered size that my XDAII will have.
If you have some pics of XDAII with backpack, side by side with XDAII naked, or with some other PDA please let me know, and tell me your opinions about my crazy idea.
Thanks, and sorry my not very good english
Hi,
a few months ago I got an ipaq hw6955
it was ok but I thought the screen was way too small for a pda, and miniSD cards aren't very big and then it broke after a month and I got a refund
now I'm looking for another phone but this time I want to shop around more !
I did a bunch of reading and searching on ebay and I'm not really sure what phone to get
I made a list of what features I cared about and which ones I don't
I absolutely want
WM6 , HSDPA (wifi but every phone have that now)
I would really prefer to have integrated gps (don't care much to carry a separate bluetooth gps receiver that's as big as the phone !)
a screen around 3 inches (the ipaq was just a tad too small to confortable use and the 240x240 was useless for movies :\)
I'd really prefer a VGA screen unless it means the phone gets very slow and makes the battery not last (like I heard about the E-TEN glofiish X500+)
I think the toshiba portege g900 would have been perfect but they messed up by using a transmissive screen, I'd prefer a transflective screen , but I think every recent phone has that now anyways.. well except the g900 !
the HTC advantage X7500 might have been good but it's really not pocket sized and WM5 kills it
I don't want a qwerty keyboard that takes away screen estate but a flip would be nice, but not necessary (a separate mini BT keyboard would do)
I heard that the G900 can use usb mass storage devices with it's usb host, that's a feature I really really want , do all phones do this now or is that one the only one ? (I know you need a separate power source but watching movies from a WD Passport 160gb hdd would be great even if it need to carry around an extra 5V battery pack)
a Full SD slot would be great but it seems they are getting rare, the fujitsu loox t830 has one, (I was going to get a t830 but then I saw the E-TEN G700 and changed my mind about front keyboards), micro SD apparently suck, so at least I'd want miniSD with SDHC support ( it'd be great to use those 16gb SD cards as opposed to the 4gb miniSD)
I was wondering maybe I should use a non-phone pda instead ? and just get a phone that has bluetooth and hsdpa support, would it be possible to use a bluetooth capable pda and use it as a headset and do all the dialing and answering with it AND use hsdpa over bluetooth ? , I wouldn't mind carrying both a tiny phone and a pda around
sorry if this post is long but there are so many phones out there , it's getting hard to choose !!
I was thinking the E-TEN Glofiish X800 would be perfect, it seems to have everything (except maybe mass storage device support on it's usb host port) but then I heard HTC phones get a lot more community support than E-TEN phones (custom firmwares in particular !!, maybe linux support ohhh)
thanks for any insight you could give me !!
-shodan
So my HTC Wizard is getting a little old. And it's poor old CPU isn't standing up to Windows Mobile 6 ROM's very well. And it doesn't support anyhting past EDGE. And I'm thinking it's time for an upgrade. And my sweet BT SouthWing headset sucks on my HTC as soon as I do more than one thing. At the same time, my camera is busted. My girlfriend has a 6 megapixel camera we use for anything important, but I want a decent camera that's always on me.
I think I see a chance to combine some electronics. I'm looking for a beasty WM 6 based PDA. The current PDA I'm most interested in is the HTC Advantage X7510.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
GSM w / solid band support
3.1 MP camera w / flash
BT 2.0
624 Mhz CPU AND ATI gfx chip (<3 cell phone emulators)
16 gig internal flash for my tunes
detachable keyboard
FULL QWERTY KEYBOARD = WIN
Surprisingly sexy for a powerful PDA with a keyboard
This looks like the best one I've found overall. I've heard that HTC has been pretty lousy on implementing the ATI GFX chips, but as far as I can tell that's only on the TyTn II's. It's a little more than I want to spend on a phone, but if it gets the camera in there too then it's sold.
I'm pretty much sold on this guy, only holdup is the cost. I really haven't seen anything that can compete with it, although I found a lot of new companies today poking about. Anybody know of any brands I should look at, or have anything negative to say about this guy?
fatheadpi said:
So my HTC Wizard is getting a little old. And it's poor old CPU isn't standing up to Windows Mobile 6 ROM's very well. And it doesn't support anyhting past EDGE. And I'm thinking it's time for an upgrade. And my sweet BT SouthWing headset sucks on my HTC as soon as I do more than one thing. At the same time, my camera is busted. My girlfriend has a 6 megapixel camera we use for anything important, but I want a decent camera that's always on me.
I think I see a chance to combine some electronics. I'm looking for a beasty WM 6 based PDA. The current PDA I'm most interested in is the HTC Advantage X7510.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
GSM w / solid band support
3.1 MP camera w / flash
BT 2.0
624 Mhz CPU AND ATI gfx chip (<3 cell phone emulators)
16 gig internal flash for my tunes
detachable keyboard
FULL QWERTY KEYBOARD = WIN
Surprisingly sexy for a powerful PDA with a keyboard
This looks like the best one I've found overall. I've heard that HTC has been pretty lousy on implementing the ATI GFX chips, but as far as I can tell that's only on the TyTn II's. It's a little more than I want to spend on a phone, but if it gets the camera in there too then it's sold.
I'm pretty much sold on this guy, only holdup is the cost. I really haven't seen anything that can compete with it, although I found a lot of new companies today poking about. Anybody know of any brands I should look at, or have anything negative to say about this guy?
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well if you really want the x7510 then you should buy an x7500 and put ap4 on there. than its like having the best of both worlds plus you get all the buttons that you dont get with the 7510
7510 is a good choice only if you intend to use it notebook style. If you use it tablet style, then 7500 or 7501 are better. 7510 does not have the a few of the hardware buttons that the older models have, and this is extremely limiting for table style users. Many users find it more convenient, more portable, and easier when using it table style.
BTW, 7500 and 7501 are lighter and cheaper too. The only drawback is the microdrive instead of SSD, but not a serious drawback. Capacity itself is not an issue for most of us, I believe. I only use about 1 GB out of the 8GB with all my programs installed there. All my large consuming files are on microSDHC, which can be swapped in and out at will so there is no practical limit on the effective capacity. Microdrive is a lot faster than microSDHC, although it consumes more power.
The answer is also in the new product cathegories from HTC marketing department ( www.htc.com ) :
They have :
TOUCH phones (From TOUCH to DIAMOND)
PDA phones (From P3300 to TyTN II)
Smartphones (From S310 to S730)
Mobile Computers (Advantage>Shift)
The strategy seems clear: WHAT DO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ? :
Trendy and WOW effect PDA PHONE? (Play device with phone?) TOUCH product Line
A Powerfull Companion in your PHONE? (Biz device with phone?) PDA Phones Product Line
Lightweight but powerfull PHONE? (Phone for yor Digital Lifestyle?) Smartphones product line
Mobile computing (Mobile PC always on with SOME phone capabilities?) Mobile Computers product line
I agree with you we would like to have them ALL in a single device but....
I have PDA, SMartphone and Mobile computer, and I fully agree with this scenario. A clear idea (or a good help) and you will be really happy of the chosen device. Chose the wrong category for your purpose and you will sell it in few weeks (losing money )
HTC is out from a dark age now, time to buy stock quotes IMHO!
I'd go for an X7500 unless you can get a 7510 susidised. I use about 6Gb of my Microdrive and about 3Gb on my card but you can always expand with bigger cards.
Good luck!
[Edit]Just seen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391485 - might be of interest?[/Edit]
Interesting comments, really appreciate the feedback. So, a few things.
1. I haven't really found a good comparison or general video yet of any of the advantage models. I'll keep the keyboard difference in mind. As for the keyboard usage, how is it for texting? I've been pretty happy with the keyboard on my Wizard, but I'm open to something new. I just refuse to go back to not having a QWERTY keyboard. I'd buy the Diamond, but HTC doesn't get how awesome QWERTY texting is appearantly.
2. Looking at the Advantage, I don't see any buttons on it that would be especially good for gaming, especially anything like the pad on a Wizard / TyTn II. Am I missing something, or can I expect to have my PocketNesterness hampered by an Advantage?
3. Thanks for the info on the 7500/1 vs 7510. Looking at the specs page, I noticed the 7500 lists two cameras while the 7501 only has one. Is this the case? I'd just be giving up the VGA camera for voice calls, which I've never used anyways, but I guess it could be nice if I get to an area with better than EDGE service. Also, is the X7510's camera much / any better?
4. I've done a good bit of flashing / light bit of cooking with my Wizard. About how much harder is an advantage to reflash?
5. 8 gigs would be a considerable upgrade for me, I've been getting by on a 4 gig MiniSD that my Wizard only picks up about 3.7 gig of. Assuming I used a gig internally for pics, GPS, etc, I'd still have twice the capacity on HD alone vs my card.
Glad to get some input, got ignored at HowardForums.
Hmm... actually, saw some better pics of the Advantage. There is clearly no "D-Pad" like the PDA-style phones get. LAME.
Back to the drawing board. Kaiser's in the lead, AT&T owes me a discount phone since I bought my own hardware to the table. Too bad it doesn't have a flash.
http://www.imate.com/support/specs/SpecSheet_9502.pdf
Ooooooh... Do Want!
fatheadpi said:
Interesting comments, really appreciate the feedback. So, a few things.
1. ... how is it for texting? ...
2. ... can I expect to have my PocketNesterness hampered by an Advantage?
3. ... the 7500 lists two cameras while the 7501 only has one. Is this the case? Also, is the X7510's camera much / any better?...
4. ...About how much harder is an advantage to reflash?...
5. ...8 gigs ...
....got ignored at HowardForums.
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We play soccer here, 2-1 is the score, and the winners are ...HERMES-KAISER!
1) ATHENA's kb haven't any backlight, hard to use without a stable surface. Big screen means BIG on screen Kb too, but for texting ATHENA Kb isn't really good in standing situation, in the car, on the bus.... WORST comparing it with the HERMES or KAISER
2) Many games aren't usable in a VGA device. I don't know about emulators but less buttons mean less control! WORST comparing it with the HERMES or KAISER
3) Yes, it is. No, don't.
4) Just the same complexity and risks as Kaiser or Hermes
5) Yes, but are built IN. I prefer to have DATA on SD, to manage with the PC utilities, to share data with friends... but, yes BETTER than HERMES or KAISER
HOFO?
Believe me: for a "texter" and "gamer" ATHENA is a nightmare!
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing so far. I might settle on a Kaiser, looks like those are pretty well hacked, and I can get one for like $100 refurb'd through AT&T. I'm gonna see if I can scrounge up a deal on that I-Mate tho, no flash on the camera has repeatedly pissed me off with my Wizard.
On a different note, how is WM6 on a 400 Mhz processor? I'm using a Wizard OC'd to 216Mhz on a custom WM6 rom, and alot of stuff is SLOOOOW. Granted, even a Kaiser would more than double my phone power, but just curious.
Hey guys, I think it's getting obvious the Athena isn't for me. I'm gonna head over to the Kaiser forum and see what I can see. Thanks for the help.
Hi guys,
I have a HTC 3600 (Trinity) in white and have a had a great time "playing" with it, upgrading the ROMS occasionally and adding plenty of addons and software etc. I love(ed) it. But I think now is the time to upgrade, but the question is... To What?
I''ve scanned through the forum for advice and personal opinians etc and all I can find is recommendations and references to:
- HTC Touch Cruise
- HTC TyTN II
- Hermes 8125
- HTC Tilt
I dont like the HTC Tilt because it looks too big/bulky - very much reminds me of the first Nokia COmmunicator (lol)
But What about the HTC Touch Diamond is that a better version of the HTC Touch Cruise?
My present phone was just the right size (medium, but not too bulky).
The main features I liked about my trinity:
+ Windows Mobile software
+ Touchscreen (no keyboard)
+ 2-sided Camera (although it was a poor MP)
+ Internal GPS / TomTom
+ GPRS
+ WiFi
+ External memory card (Mini SD - I have a 4Gb card, it would be nice to reuse it)
+ Nice colour (white instead of the common black/grey)
+ Support for custom ROM's etc
Is it me or do the 'new' phones lack in available colours? they just appear to be the dark grey/black shiny... are the no better colours for these phones? I loved my HTC 3600 in white!
Does anyone care to offer me any reccomendations? I tend to go with something that several people have recommended (my theory is if 5 people say a particular phone is good and only 3 people say another is good, I tend to follow the majority).
Thanks for your help.
Is anyone willing to help me out a bit here? Just a few one-liner reply's would go a long way.
Thanks.
I have a Touch Cruise and I'm really happy with it. It might be a bit to big, but I just have to face the fact that it's more then just a cellphone Still fits in my pocket with no problems at all.
It has lots of feature and feels really fast and powerful. I can recommend it to you without regrets!
But this is my first HTC and my first advanced device, so I don't have any reference points. I have it and I'm happy
if you like expansion slot, touch cruise is the way to go, but you might face the microSD slot does not close properly or does not read the card. my first one the slot does not close, keep on popping the card out, second one does not read and recognize any card, the third one finally work properly, but the wheel is broken so i got a tytn ii instead
I went from a Trinity to a Touch Diamond, and can really recommend it. What you lose it in the transition: expandable memory (no SDHC cards, my memory halved form 8GB to 4GB), scroll wheel, huge battery. What you gain: a much smaller form factor, a VGA screen (has to be seen to be believed), TouchFlo3D, the flush touchscreen, and a (subjectively) faster fix with GPS.
If you want something with a larger screen go for the recently-leaked Touch HD.
I would recommend Universal for all over any other phone/PDA
I know is a little bulky, but the lovely VGA 3.5" screen, 524mhz processor and it´s beautyfull keyboard makes me forget about the size easily. works perfect for buisness and pleassure
Oh wowwww, the Touch HD looks so beautiful! I dont know if I can wait 3 months... or at least 4 months before it surfaces in the UK.
Should I wait?
I was ready to get the Touch Pro. But since seeing the Touch HD, I'm now waiting for this amazing spec's device!!
Since I got my first Universal (JasJar) some 2 years back, I have tried several other alternatives, including TyTN 2, HTC Touch Pro, and even Toshiba G910. I have always come back to the Universal. In fact, when I broke my JasJar, I replaced it with Vodafone V1640. I have come to conclude that the Uni is the closest to my ideal PDA/phone for a business user.
But I regret one or two things about the Universal, and I honestly wish we would have a Universal 2 to address these snags. My short wish list for Universal 2 are is follows:
1) Retain the present format - don't change the form factor; it is simply great as it is. Forget those who say it is too heavy or bulky - they don't know what they want. (If weight is your problem, then don't ask for a comfortable keyboard and a large screen as you have in the Uni.)
2) Give it 256MB RAM. This is by far the biggest issue with the current Uni with 64MB RAM. Often when I run something like TextMaker (SoftOffice), the device runs out of memory.
3) Make the stylus holder more secure. Either let it click into place or have a magnetic slot to secure it, like the HTC Touch Pro.
4) Make the SD card slot more secure - perhaps with a cover. As it is, it pops out rather easily.
5) Have a built-in GPS
Any further ideas for Universal 2?
We can fantasize all we want but we aint going to get it! There wont ever be a Uni 2 for sure....atleast i'm pretty convinced about it.
I just broke my uni a few weeks ago and couldnt help but buying another one...(was quite a struggle to find a seller!). I too love the form factor and ergonomics of the uni - simply brilliant.
Anyway, I guess I'll just wait up for a while until there is something like the TyTN 2 where you can tilt the display on the Touch pro and I might just buy one of them! Or the Touch HD Pro - if there will ever be one!
Cheers!
San
Anyway, for the "wishlist" I'd basically want a built in GPS, a better 3D accelerated graphics card, MORE RAM & storage, and an outside smaller display if possible!
Video out would be essential for me, & with that hardware run GFX.
Sadly I dont think there will be a Universal 2, although I wish they would. The line between laptop, PDA and mobile phone has blurred so much, all I really wish is that the mobile industry in general stops limiting the capabilitys of hand held devices (e.g. Iphone) with closed platforms, limiting hardware capabilities and add expansion ports.
Dear rsawoseyin,
You have a Grate Idea about Universal. I also love Universal very much.
If the Universal is made according to the Specs given by you and some other features, like Multitouch Display, Accelerometer, etc., like in iPhone, then it would become Deam Machine!!!!!!!!
So, you request the iMate or HTC to create such type of Universal.
Regards,
Shakeel Ahmed,
Datacom Engineer,
HUAWEI Technologies (Pvt.) Ltd.
I agree with you,
I have had Jasjar and Vodafone V1640. Now I've a Toshiba G900, I'm happy with it and I've started to cook roms for it, then G900 is really important for me.
But I've loved my UNI, perfect size for me, perfect display, perfect keyboard...
To have it today with its features plus a lot ram, storage and GPS, it'll be really a dream. Yes, today we have many devices like Xperia, HD, Touch pro... BUT, apart storage, ram and gps, no one offers all the things the UNI has!
And, if I had to add a thing on a new UNI, I would put the host usb function. I have it on G900 and it can be really usefull!
rsawoseyin said:
Since I got my first Universal (JasJar) some 2 years back, I have tried several other alternatives, including TyTN 2, HTC Touch Pro, and even Toshiba G910. I have always come back to the Universal. In fact, when I broke my JasJar, I replaced it with Vodafone V1640. I have come to conclude that the Uni is the closest to my ideal PDA/phone for a business user.
But I regret one or two things about the Universal, and I honestly wish we would have a Universal 2 to address these snags. My short wish list for Universal 2 are is follows:
1) Retain the present format - don't change the form factor; it is simply great as it is. Forget those who say it is too heavy or bulky - they don't know what they want. (If weight is your problem, then don't ask for a comfortable keyboard and a large screen as you have in the Uni.)
2) Give it 256MB RAM. This is by far the biggest issue with the current Uni with 64MB RAM. Often when I run something like TextMaker (SoftOffice), the device runs out of memory.
3) Make the stylus holder more secure. Either let it click into place or have a magnetic slot to secure it, like the HTC Touch Pro.
4) Make the SD card slot more secure - perhaps with a cover. As it is, it pops out rather easily.
5) Have a built-in GPS
Any further ideas for Universal 2?
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You pretty much stated the main shortfalls of the Uni.
The only thing I can think of that you left out was EDGE compatibility....
I only been a Imate JasJar owner for 6 months however I love the device. I have a Wizard (T-Mobile MDA)...had it for almost 2 years but for work, I exclusively use my Uni. I send/receive A lot of emails at work and the Uni is perfect for that. Plus I like having an unique PDA.....I live in the US so many Americans never seen a Universal so most of my coworkers, friends, or people that happen to see me use the Uni look at it like WHAT IS THAT? lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443421
I love the from factor "Micro laptop" but I have not seen anything for the future.....
davideuck said:
I agree with you,
I have had Jasjar and Vodafone V1640. Now I've a Toshiba G900, I'm happy with it and I've started to cook roms for it, then G900 is really important for me.
But I've loved my UNI, perfect size for me, perfect display, perfect keyboard...
To have it today with its features plus a lot ram, storage and GPS, it'll be really a dream. Yes, today we have many devices like Xperia, HD, Touch pro... BUT, apart storage, ram and gps, no one offers all the things the UNI has!
And, if I had to add a thing on a new UNI, I would put the host usb function. I have it on G900 and it can be really usefull!
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Glad to see you're a Uni user too.
Even tho we both have the G900 and love the 800x480, hackibility/cookibility wise the Uni is just so reliable.
It's very hard to make a perfect ROM for G900 due to the GF5500's lack of proper driver while the Uni is just a plain PXA27x device with drivers readily available.
IMO the perfect Uni2 should have the following:
-PXA32x 800Mhz+ (CorePlayer makes great use of the newer SIMD - WMMX2)
-800x480 WVGA 3.8"
-KB
-Slightly less than 20mm thick
-Same folding/twisting style
-aGPS (from MSM6281)
-Tri-band HSDPA 3.5G (from MSM6281)
-256MB+ RAM
-512MB ROM
-SDHC (or even two! )
Or that concept Touch HD Pro, but with PXA32x 800Mhz instead plus MSM6281 for aGPS+HSDPA. Qualcomm's QTv isn't powerful enough for WVGA H.264 playback.
Too bad HTC haven't made a replacement for the Uni. The closest contender is the Blackstone.
My Imate JasJar's camera doesn't work so I just bought a O2 exec in mint condition off ebay for an excellent price. The O2 should last for a another year...when the price of the Blackstone goes down a bit.... $700+ for a new Blackstone is a bit steep right now for me...lol
even tho i never seen it, on paper Touch Pro looks like ideal replacement.
Nevertheless, here's my wish list for Uni 2
GOOD CAMERA. (For ****'s sake HTC, if after all these years u still cant make a good one, LICENSE technology from sharp or sony!!!!)
fast CPU (900Mhz +)
and 2D drawing acceleration chip
GOBS of internal flash memory (storage), 8+ GB
dump SD card slot, in favour of USB 2.0 access to the internal 8.0GB+ flash
lots of RAM memory, ie 512MB+
ipod/touch pro UI
QUAD band
reduce weight/thickness
higher capacity battery
GPS that works with TOMTOM
scratch/shock resistant case
Actually, I think that HTC meant Touch Pro to be Universals successor. While it is better only in some respects, it is the only device with at least comparable keyboard. You may say that display is too small. But should not need to tap display too often when you have a good keaybord.