Magician - O2 XDA Mini - WM5 to WM6 ROM - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading

Hi everybody,
I am looking at scraping my O2 XDA Mini WM5 and Flashing it to WM6. Was wondering if anyone has heard or has a reliable cooked ROM that they could recommend.
Appreciate any help
Greywolf

Where did you get the wm5 rom? and does the radio work?

its probably a charmer!

Im sure this has been asked before, but what is the difference between the charmer and the magician?

Sorry, my bad, it is actually WM2003.... Sorry if I mislead
But surely it is possible to cook a ROM and flash it?
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Just found this bummer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323964

Is it possible?
Hai every one.
Can any one can port the Rom of GIGABYTE G smart i to our magician, the specification of these two devices almost same
download location of the gigabyte rom
http://www.gigabytecm.com/eng/Download.aspx?id=17
Service GSM 900/1800/1900 , GPRS class 10
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Main Display 2.4 inch, 262k color TFT LCD touch panel, 240 x 320 pixels
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Size 106.2 × 53 × 19.5mm
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Weight 130g (w / battery)
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Battery Li-Ion 920 mAh, Li-Ion 1300mAh is also available for purchase Talk Time: 3.5 hours
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Talk Time Digital Talk Time up to 3.5 hours
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Standby 170 hours
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Phonebook Maxium 500 contacts.
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Multimedia Messaging Service E-mail, SMS, MMS, MSN Messenger, Windows Mobile Direct Push
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Camera 2.1 mega pixels with macro function, digital zoom, and video recording
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Music/Video MP3/MPEG4 player
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Ringtone 192 polyphonic ringtone (64 polyphonic played simultaneously)
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Dictionary 100k words dictionary.
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GPRS/WAP GPRS Class10/ WAP2.0
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External Memory Mini SD (256MB Mini SD card is enclosed)
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CPU Intel PXA272, 416 MHz
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Memory ROM 64 MB, RAM 64 MB
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TV NTSC/PAL
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Radio FM
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Music MP3 Player
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Voice command Yes
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Data Transfer Interface Bluetooth 1.2, Mini USB 1.1
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Wi-Fi WLAN 802.11b
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Application Pocket MSN、IE、Windows Media Player、PowerPoint Mobile、Excel Mobile、Word Mobile
thanks

shemi4444 said:
Hai every one.
Can any one can port the Rom of GIGABYTE G smart i to our magician, the specification of these two devices almost same
download location of the gigabyte rom
http://www.gigabytecm.com/eng/Download.aspx?id=17
thanks
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Do you have details on internal components of this device?
Why don't you do it yourself and show us the beautiful result?

shemi4444 said:
GIGABYTE G smart i
Memory ROM 64 MB, RAM 64 MB
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Here is the proof for those who said that 64rom/ram can't handle wm5...

It's not much a ROM problem, but more a compatible nk.exe to find... And those devices are not well described, what kind of chips are inside? What is the memory map?
And after that problem, we'll have to cook a WM5 ROM using 2003 format? Is it supposed to work? Where is the ROM burned to on the gigabyte device? DOC or NAND?...
If you know anyone using this device, then you can try to share some informations about the internals of this device...

b0ris747 said:
It's not much a ROM problem, but more a compatible nk.exe to find... And those devices are not well described, what kind of chips are inside? What is the memory map?
And after that problem, we'll have to cook a WM5 ROM using 2003 format? Is it supposed to work? Where is the ROM burned to on the gigabyte device? DOC or NAND?...
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I haven't the technical knhowlege on these, but if someone of you can port the 'G Smart i' rom or find a way to upload on magician, I will test it on mine and let you know the results...

1st lesson: Nobody made it? Then it's your job!
DIY!
Many threads about the always same question: when will someone do it?
Well... When one of you will do it
You can have a "WM6 style" (with 2003 binaries) using taxist's ROM (2.03TX)
It's the only alternate ROM for Magician... Maybe should you practice a bit cooking WM2003 ROMs, show us the result, and work on your WM5 or WM6 ROM
You won't waste time because you'll learn!
Good luck!

The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices
having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.
For example, HTC Galaxy has 64MB ROM and about 33-37MB of it is for persistent storage.
One of the models of the upcoming Fujitsu Siemens N500 series may also have only 64MB ROM.
And WM5 upgrade is also provided for devices having only 64MB ROM, e.g. iPAQ hx2110/2410,
FSC Pocket LOOX 700s and Acer n50.
The Htc Atom Uses the exact same processor as the htc magician, You could use the nk.exe
from the atom to make the magicians one
Htc Atom
Specifications
Date Announced 2005, 3Q
Network Technology GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900
Hardware/Processor Intel PXA272 416MHz processor
Dimensions (mm) 102 x 58 x 18.5
Weight (g) 140
Display Screen Size : 2.7 inch, 240 x 320
Screen Color : TFT 262k Colours (65k effective)
Design Type : Blok
Navigation Key : 5 way Navigation Key
Other Keys : Volume up/down, Camera, Recorder
Antenna : Fixed Internal
Memory Phonebook : Advance
Internal(MB) : 64MB SDRAM, 128MB ROM
Expansion : miniSD, SDIO
Battery Battery Type : Li-ion 1500mAh
Stand-by (hrs) : 150
TalkTime(min) : 330
Entertainment
Ringtones Polyphonic : 64-chord polyphonics
Customization : MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV
MP3 Yes
A2DP Yes
TV Receiver Null
FM Radio Yes
Video Record Yes
Video Support MPEG-4, H.263, WMV
Audio Support MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV, AMR (Stereo Speakers, 10-band equalizer, 2.5mm Audio
Jack)
Voice Support Recording, Dial
Games Solitaire and Jawbreaker
Messaging
SMS Yes
MMS Yes
EMS No
Email Pocket Outlook
Connectivity
HSDPA Null
EDGE Yes, Class 10
Bluetooth Yes
3G No
GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots)
Infrared (IrDA) Yes
USB Port Yes
WIFI/WLAN 802.11b
Data Cable RS-232, mini USB
Software
Java (J2ME) Yes ,MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.1
WAP Yes Ver 2.0
Platform / OS Windows Mobile 5.0
Browser Internet Explorer Mobile
Other Application Windows Media Player Mobile 10, Office Mobile (Word Mobile,
Excel Mobile, Powerpoint Mobile), O2 MediaPlus, ActiveSync 4.0, PDF Viewer
Personals
Themes No Info.
Caller ID Photo
ProfileID Yes
Camera
Lens Type CMOS, 2.0 Megapixel
Digital zoom
Max. Resolution 1600 x 1200
Flash Yes
Night Mode Yes
Multi Shot Yes
Extra Features self-portrait mirror, self timer, landscape mode
Photo Format JPEG(1600x1200,1024x768, 640x480, 320x240,176x144)
Video Yes
Video Format MPEG-4 (352 x 288, 176 x 144, 128 x 96)
i know nothing on how to make an nk.exe and how they work so im unable even try to make one.

2nd lesson: Stupidity remains stupidity
bigcheekybird said:
The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices
having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.
i know nothing on how to make an nk.exe and how they work so im unable even try to make one.
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If you don't show me you can do it, I'll think you're a lier (you cannot prove what you say) or someone working for Microsoft used to make us waste our time answering stupidest questions in the world (like 30 already existing topics for WM5/WM6 for magician...). If it's that easy, why don't you do it?
You don't act, you don't ask...
I will definitely not try to help some lazy kids that just want to have "the most hacked toy is the univers, with WM6.66 and new LEDz!"
Just do it (is it a known slogan or sth? )

b0ris747 said:
If you don't show me you can do it, I'll think you're a lier (you cannot prove what you say) or someone working for Microsoft used to make us waste our time answering stupidest questions in the world (like 30 already existing topics for WM5/WM6 for magician...). If it's that easy, why don't you do it?
You don't act, you don't ask...
I will definitely not try to help some lazy kids that just want to have "the most hacked toy is the univers, with WM6.66 and new LEDz!"
Just do it (is it a known slogan or sth? )
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What part of i dont much about nk.exe.I am a newbie, you said in a previous forum that the prob was finding an nk.exe that uses the same processor as the magician, i found it and as u know more than me i thought you could help. i know its not that easy but surely its not impossible. There are many devices out there that run 5.0 that came out with 2003se that have 64mb rom.

bigcheekybird said:
What part of i dont much about nk.exe.I am a newbie, you said in a previous forum that the prob was finding an nk.exe that uses the same processor as the magician, i found it and as u know more than me i thought you could help. i know its not that easy but surely its not impossible. There are many devices out there that run 5.0 that came out with 2003se that have 64mb rom.
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Maybe we shall contact somebody who will try to take the challenge. Maybe try to put the message on homepage od XDA and so on. B0ris dont be so negative.. maybe it will be very hard but it sounds possible (maybe its still impossible with his rom, dunno, dont have skills to say it right) so we must try to contact somebody who can do it.

Mateso said:
Maybe we shall contact somebody who will try to take the challenge. Maybe try to put the message on homepage od XDA and so on. B0ris dont be so negative.. maybe it will be very hard but it sounds possible (maybe its still impossible with his rom, dunno, dont have skills to say it right) so we must try to contact somebody who can do it.
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You can try contacting helmi, he made WM6 possible for three devices believed to be WM6-less for a long time (Blue Angel,Himalaya and Apache) and he Did it! The guy is just pure genius.

If he'd be successful that'd probably boost Magician sales all over the world. That'd be awkward for all retailers since it's considered an abandoned device.

I'm not so negative...
They are looking for someone's else work... why don't they do that themselves? Because it's easier that way!
WM6 on magician is possible, everyone is sure about that, but the ones who wants it are not the ones who are participating... Always the same problem, bummers asks, developpers escapes!
Personnally, before arguing about if it's possible or not, they should try to cook a 2003 ROM (how many of these were created? 1? 2? Then we can all consider ourselves a great Magician gurus! It's so eeaeaaassssyyyyy! no need to try!), try to analyse bootloaders to identify the comaptible ROM formats (WM5 using 2003 ROM format: can you explain me how you do?). Then try some ubiquio401 reverse and FIND UBIQUIO 401 HARDWARE SPECS AND MEMORY MAP
Being negative? How can't I ?
Do you see anyone here who says "I definitely want it" and made anything to make it true? none! asat!

@b0ris747: I think it's just not worth the time. It would probably take ages to figure out all that stuff, but for what? Noone is gonna pay you for that... more over you might be sued for copyright infringement.

That's why I posted some weeks ago that efforts shall be gathered to have a bootable linux... Seem difficult (specially the bootldr step) but quite less than 2003 -> WM5/6... And experts are available!
I tried the haret loaded version of linux on magician, it was great... But still problems with suspend/resume and some things to fix (GSM)...
Maybe in some days I'll give it a new try, and will retry making a cross-compiler toolchain...
No limitations, everything can be rebuild based on your needs... Maybe the ultimate alternative is here!

Related

Feedback : 2003 SE vs 2005

What are the real gains to upragde an "old" 400 MHz Himalya 2003 SE to a WM2005 ?
Speed ? MP3 Ringtones ? Compatibliy ? Stability ?
Anyone who could give me a piece of advise, it will be a great help.
WM5 - slower, but nice graphics and comfortable using with one thumb.
IMHO
I Need Urgent Help!!!
argh!! people i need help! fast! i have an i-mate PPC phone edition and its running on wm2003... i need an upgrade to 2003SE or wm5 but i dunno how to do it... pls help me...
You need to use the search function of this forum..
Or if you need a real time helper contact me through Yahoo Messenger
I went for c_shekar's WM5 and I have to admit I love it. Just for the better camera software - I lost the zoom but gained an edit/rotate function. And the auto-correct is pretty good for low light pics. And the soft buttons are great. It took a while to get used to some things being in different places, but overall I'm extremely impressed.
WM5 On the last AKU 3.5 best, at me never so quickly the device did not work...
Zarlator said:
What are the real gains to upragde an "old" 400 MHz Himalya 2003 SE to a WM2005 ?
Speed ? MP3 Ringtones ? Compatibliy ? Stability ?
Anyone who could give me a piece of advise, it will be a great help.
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I like the fact that an empty battery doesn't wipe out the memory (Storage).
(if you don't install your programs in ram)
Gr. Mach2005
at fact now.
everybody use ram-disk - so you still can loose your data.
as for me - i choose wm5 because of better IE an SPB Mobile shell.
it little more slowest and buggy then wm03se, but it not so bad at all.
if one copy the content pf ramdisk to a sdcard and copy it back if data is lost and softreset then one all is well
"better ie" sounds a bit like an oxymoron
Speed: 2003SE Faster because programs work on ram not rom like 2005.(It's old device, I not serious when it's hang but sometime it will hang)
MP3 Ringtones/Polyphonic Midi: 2003SE and 2005 MP3 Ringtone ummm... not serious for me but polyphonic ringtone, sound of instrument is different with 2003/2003SE (I use same midi files to test.)
Compatibliy: 2005 is newer. I answer 2005.
Stability: 2005 AKU 3.5 is better than 2003SE
Phone: When I use 2003SE OS My girlfriend tell me about sometimes she call me but it have waiting tone but I didn't hear it.
When I use 2005 I not heard about somebody can call me and my device not wakeup when somebody calling me.

Why use WM6 over WM5?

I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
DaVince said:
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I agree with you to some extent.
In my opinion wm5 is much stable and made for the universal device that we all have.
Wm6 is not compatible and a beta app. Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
Also its like driving hard to make wm6 perfect , which will never happen.
Its just like using a car and trying to put in a engine that is not compatible.
So I think uni devices is directly proportional to wm5. Period!
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
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What he said
ditto ditto
DaVince said:
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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There are a couple of apps that I find very useful, the new RDP client is much better & I use that a lot, Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move. The upgrade to the Office apps to support Office 2007 documents will help people who move to Off2007, but even though I use it I still save my files in Off2003 format so that the rest of the world can read them.
Apart from that I am sticking with WM5 for now because I need something that works more reliably.
I have reverted back to WM5 just after using the WM6 on universal for ~1h everytime. Reason: Its slow as compared to WM5(yeah, ironic ) and few unfixed bugs
But, what I love about WM6..
1)progress bar in Office apps. I love it when it shows the progress while opeing my big word document containing plethora of pics.
2)no 'unidentified driver' problem: many of us were getting this problem under wm5. I didn't experience it under wm6 under that 1h span though (my solution to that problem in WM5: as long as you use wisbar advance2, you will NEVER experience that problem)
3)glossy looks (though I still prefer wisbar advance)(see the screenshot attatched)
4)better phone integration
On the other hand, I m using WM6 on my wizard and its perfect
[img=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/370/kamalxa8.th.png]
Well, I don't want to switch back to WM5. Mainly for those reasons:
1/ I don't use video Calling because NO ONE from my about 700 contacts has video calling capabilites (that's Germany ;-)
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
4/ (I know you don't want to read it ;-) The nicer looking
5/ My Universal is much faster with WM6 (not with all releases though) as with the original WM5 ROMs.
6/ The Original T-Mobile WM5 ROM is UGLY AS HELL ;-)
7/ I forgot: The Call-List in the corresponding Contact is another great Feature
If I can think of anything more, I'll tell you
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
TehPenguin said:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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I too have been used such reasoning. Unfortunately after a while I came to the realisation that it was a false hope and went back to WM5.
That said, one reason to use WM6 is that the contacts app can query the DirectPush active directory to get Exchange contact details.
nispen said:
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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same here. german wm5 is unusable, slow as hell and buggy.
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
Ogier said:
Hi,
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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REALLY??? Can you please give us more details as how you manage that? Links are good too.
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
Here, the official WM5 release is AKU2, which is so slow that you can zZzZz.
For Cooked ROM, WM5 is up to AKU3.5 which is the one I am using, is with Video Call and fast.
WM6 still does not have video call, but there is a beta VideoCall cab which you can try, some works, some doesn't.
WM6 speed compare to WM5 AKU3.5, speed difference is marginal, but both are definitely faster than WM5 AKU1 & WM AKU2. But for WM6 to be slower than WM5, hmmm, how could this possible.
german t-mobile wm5 rom is quite unstable and unreliable. Some programs doesn't work at all on t-mobile wm5 roms (like cLaunch - ok, I know stupid example because cLaunch doesn't support vga resolutions at all... but it was the first application that came to my mind )
I'm satisfied with the functionality of wm6 roms. there is just one thing I don't like about it - how can I change the keyboard layout of an english rom? I would like to have an english rom but with the layout of a german keyboard - any ideas how to do that?
Ogier said:
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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One problem with that - we have the I-Mate JasJar not the JasJam
Not meaning to flame, but as clarification:
I-Mate JasJam - - - - - I-Mate JasJar
Dopod 838Pro - - - - - Dopod 900
O2 Xda Trion - - - - - - O2 Exec
HTC Hermes - - - - - - HTC Universal
So, your WM6 ROM is different to ours
(How do I know the above? Well, I work for 3 in Australia.... )
hello,
I'm using Wm6 beta rom for testing exchange 2007 improvement with this os and there a lot of new features !!
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
aniel1 said:
Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
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If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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Hehe! Me too..
cottinghamm said:
Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move.
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This is also available for the WM5 (AKU3.3 and later) right?
NiTeSHiFT said:
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
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2. Terminal Services can also do this right? though i don't really use it so I wouldn't know if it's better.
3. Oh yeah.. love that too.. way easier than scrolling through messages...
nispen said:
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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Maybe you were using an old WM5. You must try WM5 AKU3.5 or WM5 AKU3.5.
Ogier said:
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network)
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We have Universals my friend, we are on the Universal thread. You have a Hermes...
CWKJ said:
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
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AKU3.3 and 3.5. The older ones are way too slow and crappy.
fla242 said:
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
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Ah yes.. html mail format... very nice too. uhmm.. would you care to elaborate about Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management? Thanks...
DaVince said:
If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
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How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
cktlcmd said:
How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
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Not very popular. Probably not more than 25 people owns a Universal in Manila.. and only 3-4 of them (including me) actually bothers to flash their ROMS since they're too scared..
85% of cellphone users here use Nokia since Nokia devices (particularly the N series) have good 3G support. Most PPC devices seen here would be the Atom, XDA II/i, and Dopod 838 Pro.
3G is very good here.. and the reason I bought a Universal is because during the time I bought this (early 2006), this was the first PPC available that supports video calling... So please somebody make video calling work on WM6.. :beg:

Who wants to test WM 6.1 Professional?

Does anyone want to test wm6.1 professional for VOX?
If you are, you will have to write me a message
Thanks
professional on Vox?
I know hacks exist but is working for real ?
A little bit more info and serious please!
There was a test which didnt start
kozhura said:
Here is test version
1.WM 6.1 Professional
CE OS 5.2.19209 (Build 19209 .1.0.2)
2.Deleted melodies
3.Only english mui, other was missed
This is a TEST VERSION!
But you cant brik your device because its only OS and other was deleted (IPL,Splash,SPL,Radio)
You must do the Super CID and uspl unlock before flashing ROM
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This rom is not compatible on Vox - device: BRE100 CID: QTEC Z12 version 1.43.706... this is not Vox, i'm tested
ok, ill put next rom
kozhura said:
ok, ill put next rom
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This sounds great, would love to see some screen shots in the first post to see what it looks like.
Roland
Yea, I'd like to see here more info and some screenshots.. I don't believe that this is possible, because of complete different hardware.. Being a little sceptic.
I'm not admired that there's a possibility of using WM pro in the VOX...you have something similar on the Startrek (QTEK 8500): link
I will surely like to test it .
But I need to know if this will really work? If you have the ROM and test on your VOX/710, please post some images and scribe a little description about, so that we can analyze before we proceed to test
Sounds very interesting!
They have got WM6.1 Professional ported to the Wings from the Kizer in the Wings forum, maybe that's the place to ask for advice in porting WM6.1 Professional to the Vox http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389089
Roland
Pro..
Keep cool, i am not finished with this...and there are no helpfull posts within...
But how do you think to use it without touchscreen?
It will be far from user friendly...
Oh my...believe me, it is useable.
First;
A POCKET PC IS NOT ONLY HIS TOUCHSCREEN!!!
AND A SMARTPHONE IS NOT ONLY A POCKETCAMERA....or anything else than a SmartPhone.
The PRO OS works well on SP, the OS is nearly useable like Standart, (no big differences, you can navigate with dpad+softkeys on ppc, too...)
It is like a PPC with the lack of a Touchscreen, you can carry most of the PPC apps you love,but not be able to install on your Standart-SP...
Most SP-Apps wont install,because there are differences in some Cab-Configs, but most of them works well......and the VOX/WINGS got a qwerty/z Keypad...ideal to use as SIP..
Ive a StarTrak and a Tornado, both are running PRO, i like it, sure, its not useable like a PPC with Touchscreen, but nice to have.
AND DONT FORGET;Smartphones are mostly similar with the PPCHardware (exept the Touchscreen, stop buggin me)
I really hope you get it working sounds great.
especially since I miss one major feature in wm6(.1) standard: WIFI proxy.
it's not possible (as far as I know) to use an http proxy on your wifi connection.. which is a pitty.
if you get it working, I'll most likely install it
arpy said:
Oh my...believe me, it is useable.
First;
A POCKET PC IS NOT ONLY HIS TOUCHSCREEN!!!
AND A SMARTPHONE IS NOT ONLY A POCKETCAMERA....or anything else than a SmartPhone.
The PRO OS works well on SP, the OS is nearly useable like Standart, (no big differences, you can navigate with dpad+softkeys on ppc, too...)
It is like a PPC with the lack of a Touchscreen, you can carry most of the PPC apps you love,but not be able to install on your Standart-SP...
Most SP-Apps wont install,because there are differences in some Cab-Configs, but most of them works well......and the VOX/WINGS got a qwerty/z Keypad...ideal to use as SIP..
Ive a StarTrak and a Tornado, both are running PRO, i like it, sure, its not useable like a PPC with Touchscreen, but nice to have.
AND DONT FORGET;Smartphones are mostly similar with the PPCHardware (exept the Touchscreen, stop buggin me)
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There is also Fake Curser that will do the job of the stylus/ finger on a touch screen to close apps and to change to different tabs in apps.
This sounds very prommising if it can be pulled off.
Rioland
You should be able to boot a Professional from the HTC Wizard since they have the very same hardware, but I don't know if the lcd driver would work.
Anyway, you should know, the Omap 850 cpu has native support for touchscreen, if you can find where the pins connect, you could possibly adapt it (assuming you can find a 2.4" 4 wire touch panel).
Another option would be using the mini-usb jack. The cpu has both client and host side usb support. If it's mapped to the connector, and you can make windows put the usb in host mode you can connect a mouse, touchscreen or whatever you want and use it from there (if you get external power to the device you are connecting)
My vox is still under repair (3rd week already) so cannot test anything yet sorry
i would love to try it...
How long will it be until we see the first test version of this ROM?
Roland

[ROM|WM6.5] AllmostOfficial 2 B:23060 C:23420 WWE

AllmostOfficial 2 Professional
Details
Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
XIP: 23420
SYS: 23060
Recommend 128MB RAM
Pagepool: 6MB
Version ROM: 3.20.01
Recommend RadioROM: 1.15.00
Memory
ROM (free/total): 38.82/43.72
RAM (64MB Uni): 10.66/48.20
Features
Adobe Reader LE 2.5 (Rhodium)
Cambridge Extended Bluetooth Profiles
HTC Bluetooth Explorer 1.2
HTC Comm Manager (9 buttons, "clasic" view)
HTC Connection Setup (Rhodium)
HTC Network Plugin
HTC SymbolPad
ITaskMgr (replace standart MS Task Manager)
Microsoft Bing
ObexInboxEx
SD Settings (SD + SDHC)
Windows Media Today Control
Download (58MB) : Rapidshare.com, 4shared.com
AllmostOfficial 2 Lite
Memory
ROM: 40.62/43.72
RAM: 12.58/48.20
Storage: 15.03
Removed
Adobe Flash Lite 3.1
Adobe Reader LE 2.5
Cambridge Extended Bluetooth Profiles
HTC Bluetooth Explorer 1.2
HTC Connection Setup
HTC Network Plugin
HTC SymbolPad
Microsoft Bing
Microsoft Getting Started
Microsoft Marketplace
Microsoft MyPhone
Microsoft Transcriber
Microsoft Widgets
Microsoft Windows Live
ObexInboxEx
Remote Desktop client
VOIP
Windows Media Today Control
Download (46MB) : Rapidshare.com, 4shared.com
Impressive!!
Can you also post a kitchen in order to turn the rom lighter fo 64Mb devices?
Cheers
Wowowo
Really Man ? Wait wait... he he ! Many thanks my buddy !
Cheers
thanks tslany, for your much appreciate input. By way, can you let us lay peops know what is 'almostOfficial'? I don't mind if it's just title you wish to use, I'm just curious. With much thanks.
ultravox said:
Can you also post a kitchen in order to turn the rom lighter fo 64Mb devices?
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Yes, kitchen will be available
-Jonny- said:
By way, can you let us lay peops know what is 'almostOfficial'? I don't mind if it's just title you wish to use, I'm just curious. With much thanks.
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I named my ROM 'Allmost Official', because it should appear as an official ROM, because HTC did not release the official WM6.1 indeed. Name of my ROM is same since the time I had Toshiba G900
Now I need only to fix some details, so ROM will be released today or tomorrow
tslany said:
Comming soon
Details
Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
XIP: 23420
SYS: 23060
Recommend 128MB RAM
Pagepool: 4MB
Version ROM: 3.20.01
Recommend RadioROM: 1.15.00
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Thank you tslany,
Does it also works stable for 64Mb RAM, G4?
Please let us know what is included on it
Thanks,
With 64MB RAM and Lite version without Chome basic tasks as calls, messages and solitaire works without any problems.
Btw. ROM is online
Thanks! I test with 64mb, hope not slow
I'll give it a try. Was tried wm6.5.1 from luca's kitchen, but having many hangups.
Cheers.
thanks tslany, download it now and try to runing on my 64 RAM, G4. ope can use it for my dailly work
# unlucky me, do not know how many times i try to download but it always show "brocken link" ... hiks ...
Thank u very much Tslany
Downloading right now, but please can u explain what do u mean by B:23060 and C:23420
I have tried 23420 on RHODIUM, and it new contacts client is very nice and productive, it seems from the pictures u have posted that u used the 23060 leak, it uses the old contacts client I think, s it right, and is there a possibiolity to use the new version in the future?
finger keyboard not install, try tomtom but after open setup, switch off phone.
The rom it's not slow, if bug fix with 64mb it's perfect.
Having lots of hungups. Messenger, Bing not working. Switching back to Tomal's.
Thank you for sharing yours work. Cheers.
pa3x said:
I'll give it a try. Was tried wm6.5.1 from luca's kitchen, but having many hangups.
Cheers.
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also lucas 6.5 drain battries....
this rom lite version's camera application cannot start
Pretty
It looks fresh but i think the claimed 10mb of free ram is was too little.
WM6.5 still needs alot of refinement to work well on a 64mb uni. Sticking to 6.1 for now, 23mb free ram on boot, with a number of bells and whistles without being stripped down.
nice one tsalny, keep up the good work
Much better looking than prior WM6.5 versions. (What version do you call this, which start on bottom bar? WM6.51?) And like the Slide2Unlock - -wow!
I'm still testing. Have a small problem with some popup dialogs that I can't see the Ok/Cancel buttons.
Also TotalCommander doesn't quite fit well on screen. I suppose this is their programming, though.
also iGo8 doesn't work, which means I will have to go back until there is a fix.
hbahaie said:
Downloading right now, but please can u explain what do u mean by B:23060 and C:23420
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see post here (it's on the main page XDA-Portal)
WOW!!! What an IMPRESSIVE user interface!!!!
I tried the "pro" version but it left only 3 Mb of free RAM on my 64Mb UNI
so i changed to the "lite" one, and got about 10Mb free..
At first sight, I found the device much more usable then ever before, it's the same style of UI as Iphone. very good!
some minor issue (for example, no "ok" button on some pop-ups, no MMS app...) but globally it's really a breacktrough!
I will continue using it and i'll give you deeper feedback!
By now, many many thanks and my personal congratulations for this great job!
here I am again... well the free ram isn't enough for real-life usage, i cannot have more than 2 or 3 apps open togheter, neither i can use tomtom...
i also found the interface to be unstable, maybe due to the little amount of memory, but i had to reset the device often this evening.
It would be really nice to test some kind of "vanilla" version, just to see if with 15/20 mb of Ram these problems are still there. Do you know if it's possible?
Many thanks again
PS: however the interface is really impressive!!!

Diamond Double King T5353 Dual OS

Hallo,
i just stay in China and bought the "Diamond Double King" T5353 Dual OS.
My Problem is i come from Germany and the WiMo 6.5 is only in chinese.
Maybe someone of you knows this Mobilephone and can help me to get a english or german ROM
Thanks for Help and sorry for my bad english
Here are some technical Information
Maybe it will help
Processor: Marvell 310 624MHZ
Operating System: Windows Mobile 6.5 professional / Android 2.0
Memory: ROM: 512MB / RAM:256MB
Display: 3.2 inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with 240 x 400 WQGA resolution
Network: Quad-band(850/900/1800/1900MHZ) GSM/GPRS/EDGE
Device Control: TouchFLO 3D / Zoom bar
GPS: Internal GPS antenna
Connectivity: Bluetooth 2.0 with Enhanced Data Rate and A2DP for wireless stereo headsets; WIFI: IEEE 802.11 b/g; HTC ExtUSB(10-pin mini-USB 2.0 and audiojack in one)
Expansion Slot: microSD memory card(SD 2.0 compatible)
Special Features: FM Radio, G-sensor
Dimensions: 107.85 x 53.1 x 13.7 mm
WM 6.5 german and english
If nobody can help me i try to help myself . Today my wife speak long time with the shop and i got the english and german rom for update. I havent update the phone because i havent a TF Card with 1GB or less so i bought one today and and hope tomorrow they will send it to me.
Maybe someone can help me with a different questions.
These files i got from the shop for update
BootImage.nb0, CONVERT.BIN, EBOOT.BIN, fdesc.cnf,
LOGO.BIN und OBM.BIN.
Can i use these files to make a custom rom? if yes how i can make it ?
Thanks for help and sorry for my bad english.
it seems that you have bought one of theose chinese super clone phones. im not an expert but try to find out what type of image file is used for flashing, nbh, bin, nb0.... there's a lot, and judging by the processor (marvell) most likely to be arm based and most likely comes under the PXA series processor. different device has different ways to be flashed, and different ways for the roms to be cooked. might want to check the chinese forums as these devices usually being produced "underground" and support only comes direct from the manufacturers. i know my answer does not help but you might want to be careful and not brick your phone.
Go for the original!
never buy any cheap copy!!
I can´t find the WM 6.5 in this format :
BootImage.nb0, CONVERT.BIN, EBOOT.BIN, fdesc.cnf,
LOGO.BIN und OBM.BIN.
any link ?
Maetel said:
I can´t find the WM 6.5 in this format :
BootImage.nb0, CONVERT.BIN, EBOOT.BIN, fdesc.cnf,
LOGO.BIN und OBM.BIN.
any link ?
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WM 6.5 in a file called CONVERT.BIN
is detailed in the file fdesc.cnf, open it and read it
Please Upload The Files you got
i have been looking for ages
Cheers
same problem here.
I need an english rom

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