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Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...
Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma
Video call isn't working yet.
Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....
Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256
Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!
@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma
What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.
why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I agree with you to some extent.
In my opinion wm5 is much stable and made for the universal device that we all have.
Wm6 is not compatible and a beta app. Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
Also its like driving hard to make wm6 perfect , which will never happen.
Its just like using a car and trying to put in a engine that is not compatible.
So I think uni devices is directly proportional to wm5. Period!
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
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What he said
ditto ditto
DaVince said:
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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There are a couple of apps that I find very useful, the new RDP client is much better & I use that a lot, Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move. The upgrade to the Office apps to support Office 2007 documents will help people who move to Off2007, but even though I use it I still save my files in Off2003 format so that the rest of the world can read them.
Apart from that I am sticking with WM5 for now because I need something that works more reliably.
I have reverted back to WM5 just after using the WM6 on universal for ~1h everytime. Reason: Its slow as compared to WM5(yeah, ironic ) and few unfixed bugs
But, what I love about WM6..
1)progress bar in Office apps. I love it when it shows the progress while opeing my big word document containing plethora of pics.
2)no 'unidentified driver' problem: many of us were getting this problem under wm5. I didn't experience it under wm6 under that 1h span though (my solution to that problem in WM5: as long as you use wisbar advance2, you will NEVER experience that problem)
3)glossy looks (though I still prefer wisbar advance)(see the screenshot attatched)
4)better phone integration
On the other hand, I m using WM6 on my wizard and its perfect
[img=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/370/kamalxa8.th.png]
Well, I don't want to switch back to WM5. Mainly for those reasons:
1/ I don't use video Calling because NO ONE from my about 700 contacts has video calling capabilites (that's Germany ;-)
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
4/ (I know you don't want to read it ;-) The nicer looking
5/ My Universal is much faster with WM6 (not with all releases though) as with the original WM5 ROMs.
6/ The Original T-Mobile WM5 ROM is UGLY AS HELL ;-)
7/ I forgot: The Call-List in the corresponding Contact is another great Feature
If I can think of anything more, I'll tell you
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
TehPenguin said:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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I too have been used such reasoning. Unfortunately after a while I came to the realisation that it was a false hope and went back to WM5.
That said, one reason to use WM6 is that the contacts app can query the DirectPush active directory to get Exchange contact details.
nispen said:
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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same here. german wm5 is unusable, slow as hell and buggy.
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
Ogier said:
Hi,
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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REALLY??? Can you please give us more details as how you manage that? Links are good too.
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
Here, the official WM5 release is AKU2, which is so slow that you can zZzZz.
For Cooked ROM, WM5 is up to AKU3.5 which is the one I am using, is with Video Call and fast.
WM6 still does not have video call, but there is a beta VideoCall cab which you can try, some works, some doesn't.
WM6 speed compare to WM5 AKU3.5, speed difference is marginal, but both are definitely faster than WM5 AKU1 & WM AKU2. But for WM6 to be slower than WM5, hmmm, how could this possible.
german t-mobile wm5 rom is quite unstable and unreliable. Some programs doesn't work at all on t-mobile wm5 roms (like cLaunch - ok, I know stupid example because cLaunch doesn't support vga resolutions at all... but it was the first application that came to my mind )
I'm satisfied with the functionality of wm6 roms. there is just one thing I don't like about it - how can I change the keyboard layout of an english rom? I would like to have an english rom but with the layout of a german keyboard - any ideas how to do that?
Ogier said:
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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One problem with that - we have the I-Mate JasJar not the JasJam
Not meaning to flame, but as clarification:
I-Mate JasJam - - - - - I-Mate JasJar
Dopod 838Pro - - - - - Dopod 900
O2 Xda Trion - - - - - - O2 Exec
HTC Hermes - - - - - - HTC Universal
So, your WM6 ROM is different to ours
(How do I know the above? Well, I work for 3 in Australia.... )
hello,
I'm using Wm6 beta rom for testing exchange 2007 improvement with this os and there a lot of new features !!
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
aniel1 said:
Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
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If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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Hehe! Me too..
cottinghamm said:
Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move.
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This is also available for the WM5 (AKU3.3 and later) right?
NiTeSHiFT said:
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
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2. Terminal Services can also do this right? though i don't really use it so I wouldn't know if it's better.
3. Oh yeah.. love that too.. way easier than scrolling through messages...
nispen said:
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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Maybe you were using an old WM5. You must try WM5 AKU3.5 or WM5 AKU3.5.
Ogier said:
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network)
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We have Universals my friend, we are on the Universal thread. You have a Hermes...
CWKJ said:
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
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AKU3.3 and 3.5. The older ones are way too slow and crappy.
fla242 said:
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
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Ah yes.. html mail format... very nice too. uhmm.. would you care to elaborate about Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management? Thanks...
DaVince said:
If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
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How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
cktlcmd said:
How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
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Not very popular. Probably not more than 25 people owns a Universal in Manila.. and only 3-4 of them (including me) actually bothers to flash their ROMS since they're too scared..
85% of cellphone users here use Nokia since Nokia devices (particularly the N series) have good 3G support. Most PPC devices seen here would be the Atom, XDA II/i, and Dopod 838 Pro.
3G is very good here.. and the reason I bought a Universal is because during the time I bought this (early 2006), this was the first PPC available that supports video calling... So please somebody make video calling work on WM6.. :beg:
Hi everybody,
I am looking at scraping my O2 XDA Mini WM5 and Flashing it to WM6. Was wondering if anyone has heard or has a reliable cooked ROM that they could recommend.
Appreciate any help
Greywolf
Where did you get the wm5 rom? and does the radio work?
its probably a charmer!
Im sure this has been asked before, but what is the difference between the charmer and the magician?
Sorry, my bad, it is actually WM2003.... Sorry if I mislead
But surely it is possible to cook a ROM and flash it?
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Just found this bummer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323964
Is it possible?
Hai every one.
Can any one can port the Rom of GIGABYTE G smart i to our magician, the specification of these two devices almost same
download location of the gigabyte rom
http://www.gigabytecm.com/eng/Download.aspx?id=17
Service GSM 900/1800/1900 ， GPRS class 10
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Main Display 2.4 inch, 262k color TFT LCD touch panel, 240 x 320 pixels
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Size 106.2 × 53 × 19.5mm
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Weight 130g (w / battery)
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Battery Li-Ion 920 mAh, Li-Ion 1300mAh is also available for purchase Talk Time: 3.5 hours
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Talk Time Digital Talk Time up to 3.5 hours
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Standby 170 hours
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Phonebook Maxium 500 contacts.
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Multimedia Messaging Service E-mail, SMS, MMS, MSN Messenger, Windows Mobile Direct Push
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Camera 2.1 mega pixels with macro function, digital zoom, and video recording
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Music/Video MP3/MPEG4 player
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Ringtone 192 polyphonic ringtone (64 polyphonic played simultaneously)
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Dictionary 100k words dictionary.
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GPRS/WAP GPRS Class10/ WAP2.0
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External Memory Mini SD (256MB Mini SD card is enclosed)
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CPU Intel PXA272, 416 MHz
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Memory ROM 64 MB, RAM 64 MB
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TV NTSC/PAL
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Radio FM
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Music MP3 Player
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Voice command Yes
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Data Transfer Interface Bluetooth 1.2, Mini USB 1.1
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Wi-Fi WLAN 802.11b
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Application Pocket MSN、IE、Windows Media Player、PowerPoint Mobile、Excel Mobile、Word Mobile
thanks
shemi4444 said:
Hai every one.
Can any one can port the Rom of GIGABYTE G smart i to our magician, the specification of these two devices almost same
download location of the gigabyte rom
http://www.gigabytecm.com/eng/Download.aspx?id=17
thanks
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Do you have details on internal components of this device?
Why don't you do it yourself and show us the beautiful result?
shemi4444 said:
GIGABYTE G smart i
Memory ROM 64 MB, RAM 64 MB
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Here is the proof for those who said that 64rom/ram can't handle wm5...
It's not much a ROM problem, but more a compatible nk.exe to find... And those devices are not well described, what kind of chips are inside? What is the memory map?
And after that problem, we'll have to cook a WM5 ROM using 2003 format? Is it supposed to work? Where is the ROM burned to on the gigabyte device? DOC or NAND?...
If you know anyone using this device, then you can try to share some informations about the internals of this device...
b0ris747 said:
It's not much a ROM problem, but more a compatible nk.exe to find... And those devices are not well described, what kind of chips are inside? What is the memory map?
And after that problem, we'll have to cook a WM5 ROM using 2003 format? Is it supposed to work? Where is the ROM burned to on the gigabyte device? DOC or NAND?...
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I haven't the technical knhowlege on these, but if someone of you can port the 'G Smart i' rom or find a way to upload on magician, I will test it on mine and let you know the results...
1st lesson: Nobody made it? Then it's your job!
DIY!
Many threads about the always same question: when will someone do it?
Well... When one of you will do it
You can have a "WM6 style" (with 2003 binaries) using taxist's ROM (2.03TX)
It's the only alternate ROM for Magician... Maybe should you practice a bit cooking WM2003 ROMs, show us the result, and work on your WM5 or WM6 ROM
You won't waste time because you'll learn!
Good luck!
The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices
having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.
For example, HTC Galaxy has 64MB ROM and about 33-37MB of it is for persistent storage.
One of the models of the upcoming Fujitsu Siemens N500 series may also have only 64MB ROM.
And WM5 upgrade is also provided for devices having only 64MB ROM, e.g. iPAQ hx2110/2410,
FSC Pocket LOOX 700s and Acer n50.
The Htc Atom Uses the exact same processor as the htc magician, You could use the nk.exe
from the atom to make the magicians one
Htc Atom
Specifications
Date Announced 2005, 3Q
Network Technology GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900
Hardware/Processor Intel PXA272 416MHz processor
Dimensions (mm) 102 x 58 x 18.5
Weight (g) 140
Display Screen Size : 2.7 inch, 240 x 320
Screen Color : TFT 262k Colours (65k effective)
Design Type : Blok
Navigation Key : 5 way Navigation Key
Other Keys : Volume up/down, Camera, Recorder
Antenna : Fixed Internal
Memory Phonebook : Advance
Internal(MB) : 64MB SDRAM, 128MB ROM
Expansion : miniSD, SDIO
Battery Battery Type : Li-ion 1500mAh
Stand-by (hrs) : 150
TalkTime(min) : 330
Entertainment
Ringtones Polyphonic : 64-chord polyphonics
Customization : MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV
MP3 Yes
A2DP Yes
TV Receiver Null
FM Radio Yes
Video Record Yes
Video Support MPEG-4, H.263, WMV
Audio Support MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV, AMR (Stereo Speakers, 10-band equalizer, 2.5mm Audio
Jack)
Voice Support Recording, Dial
Games Solitaire and Jawbreaker
Messaging
SMS Yes
MMS Yes
EMS No
Email Pocket Outlook
Connectivity
HSDPA Null
EDGE Yes, Class 10
Bluetooth Yes
3G No
GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots)
Infrared (IrDA) Yes
USB Port Yes
WIFI/WLAN 802.11b
Data Cable RS-232, mini USB
Software
Java (J2ME) Yes ,MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.1
WAP Yes Ver 2.0
Platform / OS Windows Mobile 5.0
Browser Internet Explorer Mobile
Other Application Windows Media Player Mobile 10, Office Mobile (Word Mobile,
Excel Mobile, Powerpoint Mobile), O2 MediaPlus, ActiveSync 4.0, PDF Viewer
Personals
Themes No Info.
Caller ID Photo
ProfileID Yes
Camera
Lens Type CMOS, 2.0 Megapixel
Digital zoom
Max. Resolution 1600 x 1200
Flash Yes
Night Mode Yes
Multi Shot Yes
Extra Features self-portrait mirror, self timer, landscape mode
Photo Format JPEG(1600x1200,1024x768, 640x480, 320x240,176x144)
Video Yes
Video Format MPEG-4 (352 x 288, 176 x 144, 128 x 96)
i know nothing on how to make an nk.exe and how they work so im unable even try to make one.
2nd lesson: Stupidity remains stupidity
bigcheekybird said:
The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices
having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.
i know nothing on how to make an nk.exe and how they work so im unable even try to make one.
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If you don't show me you can do it, I'll think you're a lier (you cannot prove what you say) or someone working for Microsoft used to make us waste our time answering stupidest questions in the world (like 30 already existing topics for WM5/WM6 for magician...). If it's that easy, why don't you do it?
You don't act, you don't ask...
I will definitely not try to help some lazy kids that just want to have "the most hacked toy is the univers, with WM6.66 and new LEDz!"
Just do it (is it a known slogan or sth? )
b0ris747 said:
If you don't show me you can do it, I'll think you're a lier (you cannot prove what you say) or someone working for Microsoft used to make us waste our time answering stupidest questions in the world (like 30 already existing topics for WM5/WM6 for magician...). If it's that easy, why don't you do it?
You don't act, you don't ask...
I will definitely not try to help some lazy kids that just want to have "the most hacked toy is the univers, with WM6.66 and new LEDz!"
Just do it (is it a known slogan or sth? )
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What part of i dont much about nk.exe.I am a newbie, you said in a previous forum that the prob was finding an nk.exe that uses the same processor as the magician, i found it and as u know more than me i thought you could help. i know its not that easy but surely its not impossible. There are many devices out there that run 5.0 that came out with 2003se that have 64mb rom.
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What part of i dont much about nk.exe.I am a newbie, you said in a previous forum that the prob was finding an nk.exe that uses the same processor as the magician, i found it and as u know more than me i thought you could help. i know its not that easy but surely its not impossible. There are many devices out there that run 5.0 that came out with 2003se that have 64mb rom.
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Maybe we shall contact somebody who will try to take the challenge. Maybe try to put the message on homepage od XDA and so on. B0ris dont be so negative.. maybe it will be very hard but it sounds possible (maybe its still impossible with his rom, dunno, dont have skills to say it right) so we must try to contact somebody who can do it.
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Maybe we shall contact somebody who will try to take the challenge. Maybe try to put the message on homepage od XDA and so on. B0ris dont be so negative.. maybe it will be very hard but it sounds possible (maybe its still impossible with his rom, dunno, dont have skills to say it right) so we must try to contact somebody who can do it.
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You can try contacting helmi, he made WM6 possible for three devices believed to be WM6-less for a long time (Blue Angel,Himalaya and Apache) and he Did it! The guy is just pure genius.
If he'd be successful that'd probably boost Magician sales all over the world. That'd be awkward for all retailers since it's considered an abandoned device.
I'm not so negative...
They are looking for someone's else work... why don't they do that themselves? Because it's easier that way!
WM6 on magician is possible, everyone is sure about that, but the ones who wants it are not the ones who are participating... Always the same problem, bummers asks, developpers escapes!
Personnally, before arguing about if it's possible or not, they should try to cook a 2003 ROM (how many of these were created? 1? 2? Then we can all consider ourselves a great Magician gurus! It's so eeaeaaassssyyyyy! no need to try!), try to analyse bootloaders to identify the comaptible ROM formats (WM5 using 2003 ROM format: can you explain me how you do?). Then try some ubiquio401 reverse and FIND UBIQUIO 401 HARDWARE SPECS AND MEMORY MAP
Being negative? How can't I ?
Do you see anyone here who says "I definitely want it" and made anything to make it true? none! asat!
@b0ris747: I think it's just not worth the time. It would probably take ages to figure out all that stuff, but for what? Noone is gonna pay you for that... more over you might be sued for copyright infringement.
That's why I posted some weeks ago that efforts shall be gathered to have a bootable linux... Seem difficult (specially the bootldr step) but quite less than 2003 -> WM5/6... And experts are available!
I tried the haret loaded version of linux on magician, it was great... But still problems with suspend/resume and some things to fix (GSM)...
Maybe in some days I'll give it a new try, and will retry making a cross-compiler toolchain...
No limitations, everything can be rebuild based on your needs... Maybe the ultimate alternative is here!
HI Folks,
They are starting to talk of windows 6.5 on the blue angel site, has anyone else heard of anything on here. I didn't even know it was out yet
haven´t heard anything more than this:
Steve Balmer says:
"We could see 6.5 released in the first couple months of 2009"
http://gizmodo.com/5079437/steve-ballmer-confirms-windows-mobile-65
That one was back in november, if anyone has more info please share!
There is a cook on blue angel forum that is cooking one now HERE
Yeah I saw that but I don´t think we´ll see that ROM "finished" till the same dates as 6.5 will be expected (Hope I´m wrong)
Hope other members can share their info or opinions
In China, some rom cookers hv already flashed the WM 6.5, AKU1.8.2 and AKU 5.0, but it seems that they dont wanna release yet
Windows Mobile 6.5 is AKU 5.0.0 obviously.
Also you should not think that WM65 will have big changes at this moment - it seems to me, WM65 now have only different name from WM61, but still continue WM61 development line.
It's like different WM61 builds (small features added in new builds), but with new name
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Windows Mobile 6.5 is AKU 5.0.0 obviously.
Also you should not think that WM65 will have big changes at this moment - it seems to me, WM65 now have only different name from WM61, but still continue WM61 development line.
It's like different WM61 builds (small features added in new builds), but with new name
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It would make sense that it is just a revamped 6.1 in true microsoft style Im looking forward to WM 7.0 though.......I think LOL
you don't understand me right...
for us it can have small changes now, because we see small changes with each new build. Now it just new name...
new features will be added in new builds IMHO. Not all at one time.
They have a lot of time up to release date
Here is some chinese WM6.5 release for Universal:
http://www.ivgappc.com/viewthread.php?tid=11449&extra=&page=1
Machine translation:
In the first oil ahead of time to wish all a Happy New Year! 牛年发牛财！ Year of the Ox-fat cow Choi! 熊市变牛市哈哈！ Bear market bull market change ha ha!
再次提醒，现有的WM6.5仍然是beta状态的，所以会有不少bug。 Once again reminded that the existing state of WM6.5 is still beta, so there will be a lot of bug. 像我试出来的就有coreplayer不能正常横屏，百战天虫运行不了……或许也跟我的移植技术有关吧，反正我也是一个菜鸟，正在不断摸索。 I tried out as there is not a normal cross CorePlayer screen, Worms World Party is running can not ... ... and perhaps with my transplant technology now, anyway, I too am a rookie, is constantly exploring.
终于把三个版本都给K完了！ All three versions have finally finished K! 目前正在上传。 From currently. 还是要说一下，因为小弟的技术有限，不会HEX，所以在“关于”那里看到的还是“Windows Mobile 6.1”。 Or to say a little bit, since younger brother technology is limited, not HEX, so in the "on" where to see or "Windows Mobile 6.1". 但是核心已经是WM 6.5的了，所以在此斗胆写成WM6.5。 But the core is already in WM 6.5, so in this venture into WM6.5. 如果你很介意这个信息，那么请不要使用这些ROM，免得到时你用得不高兴来说我怎么怎么样，搞得我也不高兴！ If you mind this information, then please do not use these ROM, free to be used when you upset me how to how to run, I am not happy to do! 这个核心是来自sun_dream发布的D700 WM 6.5模板，感谢sun_dream！ This is the core of sun_dream released from D700 WM 6.5 templates, thank sun_dream! 刚才测试了一下，电话、短信、声音都没出现明显的问题。 Just test a bit, telephone, SMS, voice no apparent problems. 至于之前新闻上说的WM6.5的界面有什么什么变化，我应该也没弄上去， 所以除了内核以外，外观等其它方面都应该跟之前的6.1版一样 。 As said before the news of what WM6.5 interface changes, I should not get up, so in addition to the kernel, the appearance and other aspects should not be the same as the previous version 6.1.
在这想请机油们帮忙测试：Flash Disk、蓝牙、与电话有关的（GPRS、电话、短信等）方面，看一下有没有问题，因为我自己的自用版是集成了Broadcom蓝牙驱动，所以没有办法测试微软的蓝牙驱动有没有问题；我的自用版在K出来以后也就没剩多少空间，所以也没弄Flash Disk，而只有这些上传的ROM里弄了这个，所以Flash Disk的情况我也没办法测试。 In this oil they would like to ask the help of test: Flash Disk, Bluetooth, and telephone-related (GPRS, telephone, SMS, etc.) to look at if there are any problems, because my own personal use version is integrated Broadcom Bluetooth driver, so there is no way test Microsoft's Bluetooth drivers have no problem; my version of the K out of their own after not much room left, so did not get Flash Disk, and only those ROM upload the neighborhood, so the case of Flash Disk I did not approach to testing. 至于与电话有关的，因为我的D900主要是作为PDA来用的，也就是说电话功能一般是不开的，所以这一块也要请机油们自行测试，多多反馈，谢谢！ As with the telephone-related, because my D900 is to use as a PDA, which means phone features are generally not open, so it is a piece of oil were also invited to test a lot of feedback, thank you!
已发现一个BUG，CorePlayer在非全屏的状态下不能横屏！ Has found a BUG, CorePlayer in the non-full-screen state can not cross screen! 不过全屏播放是正常的。 However, full-screen playback is normal.
好了废话不多说，介绍一下特性： Well nothing to add to that nonsense, tell us about the characteristics:
128M版下载地址： http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/a6596857-e886-11dd-a5aa-0019d11a795f/ 128M Download Address: http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/a6596857-e886-11dd-a5aa-0019d11a795f/
64M版下载地址： http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/a71605c2-e88a-11dd-94bc-0019d11a795f/ 64M Download Address: http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/a71605c2-e88a-11dd-94bc-0019d11a795f/
纯净版下载地址： http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/6aeb7bab-e88e-11dd-a408-0014221b798a/ Pure Download Address: http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/6aeb7bab-e88e-11dd-a408-0014221b798a/
1、适量集成版集成： 1, moderate integration Integration:
① 英文键盘、方框手写和全屏手写，默认输入法是英文键盘 ① English keyboard, handwriting and full-screen handwriting box, the default input method is English keyboard
② 微软自带的智能拨号，可以用硬键盘 ② Microsoft's own smart dialing, you can use the hard keyboard
③ 9M的ramdisk（64M版不带） ③ 9M of ramdisk (64M version without)
④ 11m 的雅黑6.0字体 ④ 11m black Accor 6.0 fonts
⑤ 128M版的PP为13M，64M版的PP为6M ⑤ 128M version of the PP for the 13M, 64M version of the PP to 6M
⑥ RESCO EXPLORER 2008 7.05 ⑥ RESCO EXPLORER 2008 7.05
⑦ 蓝牙FTP、 带Flash Disk ⑦ Bluetooth FTP, with Flash Disk
⑧ SD卡设置（三项版）、RMVB插件（可通过WMP播放RMVB文件）、GPRS网络设置向导、G4 SIP、对话框替换等 ⑧ SD card settings (three versions), RMVB plug-in (available through WMP player RMVB file), GPRS Network Setup Wizard, G4 SIP, dialog replacement
⑨ 把STK的快捷方式放回程序中 ⑨ to STK shortcut back program
⑩ FLASH 7插件 ⑩ FLASH 7 plug-ins
2、纯净版： 2, pure version:
① 英文键盘、方框手写和全屏手写，默认输入法是英文键盘 ① English keyboard, handwriting and full-screen handwriting box, the default input method is English keyboard
② 微软自带的智能拨号，可以用硬键盘 ② Microsoft's own smart dialing, you can use the hard keyboard
③ 蓝牙FTP、 带Flash Disk ③ Bluetooth FTP, with Flash Disk
④ SD卡设置（三项版） ④ SD card settings (3 version)
⑤ PP为6M ⑤ PP for 6M
⑥11m 的雅黑6.0字体 ⑥ 11m black Accor 6.0 fonts
⑦ 把STK的快捷方式放回程序中 ⑦ to STK shortcut back program
⑧ 去除美化，沿用WM本身的风格 ⑧ remove landscaping, use their own style of WM
I flashed my Uni with this one 6.5 rom and for now it's good, speed is good, start up free memory - 25 mb, touch scrolling has some improvements, standart 6.1 look, stable, camera don't work, only Chinese
Win_XP said:
I flashed my Uni with this one 6.5 rom and for now it's good, speed is good, start up free memory - 25 mb, touch scrolling has some improvements, standart 6.1 look, stable, camera don't work, only Chinese
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Thanks for doing that, I was interested what the difference is. Not much then
Jay
Win_XP said:
I flashed my Uni with this one 6.5 rom and for now it's good, speed is good, start up free memory - 25 mb, touch scrolling has some improvements, standart 6.1 look, stable, camera don't work, only Chinese
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Thanks for that mate!
Cheers,
i want to test wwe version!!!
There is no WWE version yet, only Chinese
Win_XP, could you please upload it somewhere else? I try to download it, but have only error message that "Server Busy, please come back later"
I'm working on WM6.5 beta but not sure when you can test it.
cheers
Tomal, I'm looking forward to the new 6.5 windows mobile. Thaks for your hard work.
Wow Tomal! You're always ahead of the game! Can't wait to test the beta!
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I'm working on WM6.5 beta but not sure when you can test it.
cheers
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Once again Tomal!!!!
Great to know this news!!
I´ll wait for it!
Cheers for you!
That Chinese rom (I'm using it now) is only WM6.5 core ported to 6.1 rom, in the About tab stays "Windows Mobile 6.1"
Hello,
anyone has this phone ?
cheers
yes me, but i can't unlock it, and i can't find a gps software for it...
GPS Software
Garmin Mobile XT works beautifully on it.
and you don't have any problems with the keyboard?
all keys are recognized?
hi,
ndrive and mcguider (sygic drive) also works perfect with the c6625 and the keyboard.
cheers
Hi all
I have this samsung,
I find it very convenient and useful
I have no problems with keyboard. I am now trying to install programs to increase its use.
2 way call recording for samsung c6625
Hi guys
I am not software engineer, so don't know much about the same. But recently I have purchaed samsung c-6625 and I have install Vito 1.37, While calll recording it records only opposite person's voice, and doesn't record my voice at all. I have tried this with one note also with insert voice recording but same result. infect i need to put my speaker phone on even if i have to record opposite person't voice,
I can't understand why it is not recording my voice? As this is my day in day out feature i was looking in my phone, if this doesn't seems to be work then i have to buy new one again with same facility...
Can any one tell me how to record 2 way voice recording on same model.
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Atit
I am from holland and i have the C6625 for 3 weeks now,i cant find anny applications for it! i tryed several WM 6.1 applications but the phone say's: may maby not work good bacause this application is for an older version of WM. ???
I have the good aplications for WM 6.1 non-touchscreen,please tell me what works good on it please!! i am desperate of trying!
gps with garmin
its nice garmin xt mobile on my c6625
just follow this link
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=297785&highlight=GARMIN
Thanks but i dont use GPS i am more interessted in sms notifier,or sms reminder,cant find it and if i do,it does not work!
i've just bought this phone a week ago and so far so good
(+)
-quite affordable and quite cheap for Windows Mobile Smartphone
-screen quality excellent
-SMS Chat are available through PHM Registry Editor
-awesome built quality
-videocall quality are quite good
(-)
-the sound quality reduced if the sound is too loud (loudspeaker or not, both the same)
-too light for a smartphone
Hello,
>> SMS Chat can are available through PHM Registry Editor
is default "on" on my c6625
>> the sound quality reduced if the sound is too loud (loudspeaker or not, both the same)
right, i hate this feature, have not found any tricks to remove this thing.
cheers
Hi..
How is the battery backup practically ?
thanks
how to upgrade this phone to wm6.5 friends?
thx.
is there any comment for C6625?
Comments on C6625
I am a new owner of a Samsung C6625.
First thing first the minuses:
- no touchscreen running an OS designed for touchscreens! most software are running but are unusable. Imagine a igo8 running and getting stuck in the main menu (frustrating)
- GPS has poor signal
- WM is standard
- community support for it is limited!
- no wifi
Pluses
+ no slide for keyboard
+ bussiness phone image.
Advice
Buy a normal touch screen phone something form HTC, Eten if you are lucy and don't have hardware problems then you have good mobile with great community support. I also have an older M700 Eten running WM6.5 that I will keep because the C6625 isn't able to replace it.
hello all,
i'm from indonesia,i've use this phone for quite sometimes.
its true that garmin XT works very nice in this device.and if you want to use free pushmail you might consider using SEVEN (its realtime pushmail,excellent).
someone posted about sms notifier,is it similar to sms ticker?cos if it is its already in the device,so you don't have to install third party softwares.
i found this device very handy,especially for backups.by simply using microsoft myphone,and my C6625 is on the internet!
for other applications,i think we can use any WM 6.1 softwares.heaps of it is on the net!^^
about upgrading to 6.5, i don't think C6625 will survive,or maybe if you push it,it'll explode because of the processor's limit.LOL
aboss_aboss said:
I am a new owner of a Samsung C6625.
First thing first the minuses:
- no touchscreen running an OS designed for touchscreens! most software are running but are unusable. Imagine a igo8 running and getting stuck in the main menu (frustrating)
- GPS has poor signal
- WM is standard
- community support for it is limited!
- no wifi
Pluses
+ no slide for keyboard
+ bussiness phone image.
Advice
Buy a normal touch screen phone something form HTC, Eten if you are lucy and don't have hardware problems then you have good mobile with great community support. I also have an older M700 Eten running WM6.5 that I will keep because the C6625 isn't able to replace it.
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i think GPS signal depends on your location,so it doesn't count for the minuses of this device.CMIIW
The device is more than good, my best one-Hand Phone. I use it for months, GPS with Garmin is really nice. But now I look for the HTC ozone, Samsung Omnia B7330 or LG GW550, it just has something new here. Therefore, I sell my C6625 so if you have interest, just let me know.
cheers
4sale:
Samsung C6625 (US)
Moto Q9H (US)
Samsung Blackjack II (US)
hi, i'm from indonesia and i think this c6625 is very good. garmin XT work very nice even i was inside home.