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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously

Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve

Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?

Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.

I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru

Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful

Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?

Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day

Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now

Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco

Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.

Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered

I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html

TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....

Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?

Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom

TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.

Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?

I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

TomTom works normal again with SE rom !

The issue with tt3 crashing my MDA II when started without an active bluetooth connection has finally been solved with the upgrade to WM2003SE ! I still can't choose bluetooth GPS though but NMEA bluetooth on com 5 works fine.

pleun said:
I still can't choose bluetooth GPS though but NMEA bluetooth on com 5 works fine.
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I've no problem selecting the Bluetooth GPS with W2003 SE installed (2.02).
Currently using GPS driver V3.00 not upgraded to newer versions yet.
Regards,
Mark

This is great news. Been waiting/searching for this for months now!
Do you two both use the 2.02 SE, or is it also proven with the 2.06 SE?
What brand is the BT GPS you're using?
Did you test with / without creating a serial port in order to try to choose 'Bluetooth GPS' in TT GPS?
To help ppl that do not want to upgrade, could you possibly post the registry setings of Bluetooth here?

edsub said:
Do you two both use the 2.02 SE,
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I'm using 2.02 SE
or is it also proven with the 2.06 SE?
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Haven't tried it yet, may be someone else can answer this.
What brand is the BT GPS you're using?
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Mine is Emtact Trine II BTGPS
Did you test with / without creating a serial port in order to try to choose 'Bluetooth GPS' in TT GPS?
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Have tried both and both do work for me.
To help ppl that do not want to upgrade, could you possibly post the registry setings of Bluetooth here?
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Which key do you want me to export?
By the way have also tried it with TT3 GPS driver 3.03 and this does work too.
But the issue BTGPS together with a headset is partly still there. As it sometimes works and sometimes not. haven't found a way to make it work all the time.
Regards,
mark

I use ver 2.06 SE and a Holux Gr 230. Only tried it with serial port profile.
TomTom is 3.07

Wohaa!! Since youre using the Holux GR-230 means my DConnex DC-230 will probably also work with 2.06 and not have the TomTom lockup when theres no BT connection available!!!
This made my day!
Have to think fast to put together an T-Mobile ExtROM for 2.06SE now . . .

BT without spp don't work.

Bluetooth Tools JAM compatibility?

I just got my JAM and the MS Stack doesn't work with my Audi MMI System BT. The PDA2K Widcomm stack 1.1 did, but not the JAM. I can partner but no functionality.
Has anyone tried using the MDA II/XDA II BT Tools that helped that devices MS BT Stack with the JAM?
I love the JAM, but the MS Stack has so little menu functions.

yes it works perfect for me ... the same functions in xda2

Having quite same problems with Nokia carkit, after pairing connection dies quickly and doesn't work. Under BT devices menu "set as hands-free" is grayed out and also using bluetooth tools doesn't make difference, the connection screen just disappears quickly when pairing so can't change profile, maybe it's due incompability...
Don't know if it's possible to change BT stack but at the moment this thing sucks...

GPS Navman 4410 on Qtek S100
Sounds like the same problem I have with my GPS-connection (Subject GPS)

Could someone post the Bluetooth Tools file? I can't find it anywhere on my system or on the web.
thanks

Paragon said:
Could someone post the Bluetooth Tools file? I can't find it anywhere on my system or on the web.
thanks
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http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/

Thanks kha!

Tools doesn't work well on my JAM!

Hi!
I´ve tested the Pocket Bluetooth Tools as well, but it doesn´t worked on my MDA compact (German ROM). When the software was installed, the BT doesnt work anymore.
My special problem is with the Royaltek RBT 3000 and the download of the tracks to the pda. Each time i try this, the connection breaks after 200 waypoints approx. The normal use with the navigation software like TomTom works well.
Looking for a solution.
Regards
FluBeX

Battery Life Really Poor on XDA II...

I've had my XDA II for a few weeks now and the battery life seems really poor. I don't have any long time limit backlight options set and if I use the PDA or phone, I need to pretty much charge it every 18 hours or so.
Any ideas if it's a problem or normal or what?
I've turned on my Bluetooth connection to see if that makes a difference, and then I'll turn it on only when I need it.

For automatic switching of Bluetooth on when it detects a signal and auto off when no signal i use Pocket Bluetooth Tools. u may want to check it out as BT always on will drain power. its common sense in that the more thats running the more power you will use. i dock my XDA2 everyday, i have a spare battery and its powered in the car so power issues are not a problem for me :wink:
You can get Pocket Bluetooth tools from here http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/download_e.html
NB. install Bluetooth tools and then bond your devices otherwise the auto on/off doesnt work as i found out.

For automatic switching of Bluetooth on when it detects a signal and auto off when no signal i use Pocket Bluetooth
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this apply only for using bluetooth for headset and recieving a call
nothing else
if you use your xda for bluetooth gps or activesync or ......... you have to be the active party and if another bluetooth device as a xda or a cellphoen try to send you stuff by bluetooth i'm pretty sure that bluetooth tools will not help you

Thanks for that advise. I thought the BT thing would kill my power.

Rudegar said:
For automatic switching of Bluetooth on when it detects a signal and auto off when no signal i use Pocket Bluetooth
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this apply only for using bluetooth for headset and recieving a call
nothing else
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i dont have a BT headset. i only use BT for my GPS. when i turn on my BT GPS, the Bluetooth Tools detects the signal and starts my BT stack. when i turn off the BT GPS, Bluetooth Tools turns off the BT stack off when no signal is received for >60 seconds.
As long as the device is bonded after Bluetooth Tools is installed i would say that the auto on/off function would work for all devices. the auto on/off would not work if i bonded my GPS before the BT Tools. Bond after installing BT Tools and the auto on/off works. just my experience with BT Tools but without any other devices myself i cannot confirm it will work for other devices.

Since v1.60c my bluetooth second binding is distorted

Since v1.60c my bluetooth second binding/connection is distorted.
In the car, first my TomTom gps binds and connect perfect and then my carkit Parrot 3100 binds and connect perfect. But when i make a phonecall, the line is very distorted. Some buzz is on the line.
And if i change the sequence, by first binding the carkit, and after that trying to bind the TomTom gps. The gps will not bind at all.
The last version that worked correct was the version 1.60c
Somebody with the same experience?
PS. is it possible to extract the Bluetooth files from the v1.60c version and save on the latest versions?

Gps & Parrot Together With Wm2k5 : Bluetooth Incompatibility ??
Same happens to me.
I'm experiencing this problem since I upgraded from WM2003SE.
Every WM2K5 ROM I've tryied does the same.
If once gps and parrot both are binded, you go to bluetooth settings/devices/and you disable hands free service, wait for few seconds and enable it again, then the parrot should work with no trouble.
It's the only that works to me...I have to do it every time I get in my car.
If somebody has the solution I would apreciate.
FRANCESC

Yes, it works for me too. But it isn't a beautiful way to connect!
Somebody know what this could be?

hi
could the both of you with the parrot 3100 please tell me:
.) does it sync the phonebook with pda's contacts?
.) does it show the name of the incoming call?
.) does it show mobile providers net status (=strenght)
if not: have you tried www.jetwaremobile.com ? does it work with that "enhancement"?
thanks!
regards ize|man

I will try!

Thanks for this information, I'll try.

izeman said:
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if not: have you tried www.jetwaremobile.com ? does it work with that "enhancement"?
thanks!
regards ize|man
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Not working for me!

I think that I'm suffering with the same problem. I used to use a Nokia CK-1W for hands free and a iBlue BT GPS with Tomtom6 on my Jasjam/Dopod/Hermes and had no problems whatsoever. I've just changed the car and have fitted a Parrot CK3100 (FW 1.6C) and I can no longer connect to hands free and the GPS at the same time.
If I bind to the GPS first everything is fine until I attempt to pair with the Parrot. Upon pairing synchronisation starts and then for some reason the bloody thing starts to make a call!!! The phone doesn't recognise that it's calling, it's just the kit doing it. Once paired and synched the GPS connection is killed.
If I bind to the Parrot first I have no bizarre calling issues but I am unable to locate the GPS device.
What the hell? Have I bought a turkey?
Anyone with a suggestion as to how to fix it?

EelcoV said:
Not working for me!
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so. none of these three questions is answered with YES? does it work out-of-the-box?
so if i get you right: there is no way to sync my contacts with the 3100?
thanks ize|man

I mean it's not solving my problem

Didn't solve mine either. In fact, it made it worse! I still have all the connection problems but in addition, the battery meter no longer shows on the Parrot. Uninstalling jetware returned the meter.