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htc magician wm2005 upgrade For T-mobile Explanation
Next Release:
No further release expected. This device is unable to be upgraded to Windows Mobile™ 5.0 operating system. The new MDA Compact II device will be a Microsoft Windows Mobile™ 5.0 device expected later this month.
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magician wm2005 coming soon
Hey what so happy about it? I think you misunderstood the statement.
they said, the new MDA Compact II is going to come out. and yes, its already came out, with the model name Charmer or Prophet (i forget )
so, still, no WM2005 for Magician.
Yep:
"This device is UNABLE TO BE UPGRADED to Windows Mobile 5.0".
I still think the producers are being lazy. There's no reason it should not support an Intel PXA272 base, because that's like the most common WM processor around, and its still in use too. Portable RAM, BT and Radio Stack technology hasn't changed a hell lot enough to not even have any driver support.
If this isn't forced obsolescence I don't know what is.
ya lor of course i tink its not because device not supported, but just simply : marketing and commercial issue
maybe they came out with new product and wont allow wm2005 for magician to avoid product cannibalism
I agree with you
it certainly supports wm2005
yes
it is launched with name charmer grey nad pink colour
g3 chipset
T-Mobile website has the WM 6.0 update for the DASH but not the MDA.
ok and ur mad.. why?
So please - lock in, download and share.
lol
i went to the site and the only update is for tmobile dash. thats all i saw. so please let me know if i am wrong
Thats correct. Windows mobile 6 will only be offered for upgrade for the T-mobile dash.
As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!
One of the "perks" is that it has a spring loaded slide out keyboard.... another opporunity for something to break if u ask me.
But does it really matter if t-mobile doesn't have wm6? All the great chefs will be able to get their hands on the official wm6 and tweak it for us anyway. Standard roms are horrid. And the unofficial wm6 roms by the very talented ichefs in these forums are working close to flawless
marscandybars said:
Thats correct. Windows mobile 6 will only be offered for upgrade for the T-mobile dash.
As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!
One of the "perks" is that it has a spring loaded slide out keyboard.... another opporunity for something to break if u ask me.
But does it really matter if t-mobile doesn't have wm6? All the great chefs will be able to get their hands on the official wm6 and tweak it for us anyway. Standard roms are horrid. And the unofficial wm6 roms by the very talented ichefs in these forums are working close to flawless
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what roms should i take then? and are they build on a wm6 base of an wm5 with wm6 looks?
no the ROMs are are legit WM6, not WM5 with WM6 looks. the MDA has been discontinued. HTC, nor t-mobile will be giving a WM6 upgrade. I've been running WM6 on my MDA for a month though. Just do that.
RADIO NEEDED for MDA WM6, t-mob, WM6 needed
WDS Josh said:
no the ROMs are are legit WM6, not WM5 with WM6 looks. the MDA has been discontinued. HTC, nor t-mobile will be giving a WM6 upgrade. I've been running WM6 on my MDA for a month though. Just do that.
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The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
perm said:
The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
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On XDA terra there is Radio 2.85 BUT i wasn´t able to dump it till now.
ANy help and I will dump - but with awizard it isn´t possible. And with pdocread also.
marscandybars said:
...As we all know, the MDA has been discontinued and will be replaced with "the wing"
The wing will come with wm6 preinstalled. In my opinion, its a worthless phone. It's the SAME processor speed, and there are no tactile buttons on front for messaging or internet. instead, the messaging button on the side and there is no more browser button.
Sure it has a 2MP camera... but NO flash!...
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http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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NOT wings - but Wing aka HTC Herald aka HTC P4350 aka XDA terra
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/24/t-mobile-wing-htc-herald-shows-up-in-fcc/
perm said:
The MOST SERIOUS problem with all of WM6's posted here is the phone radio driver.
It would be *REALLY* great if someone is able to adapt the radio in this to the wizard wm6. It seems that the biggest weakness in the WM6 hacks posted here is the "radio." Thus far, only 2.19 is reported to be at all reliable (all others tested are reported to miss calls). I confirmed missed calls on 2.40 yesterday (SF Bay Area, t-mob, NTS vanilla).
But 2.19 has nasty problems with signal acquisition, especially when the signal is weak.
If this new phone has the same processor (OMAP), then maybe the radio will work, or could be hacked to work, on MDA hardware??
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hmm I haven't had that issue as my calls seem to be coming through fine. Once the Wing is released, since it has roughly the same hardware as the MDA, it should be easy to "port" the t-mobile WM6 ROM for the MDA or at least the radio.
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http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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LOL.......
mmain said:
http://www.itechnews.net/2007/03/05/htc-wing-s730-wm6-pda-phone/
Quote from link - The HTC Wing S730 is powered by a Samsung SC32442 400Mhz processor, 128MB ROM, 64MB, and has a QVGA LCD screen, 3G and HSDPA support. There is also a secondary camera for video calls.
It seems to have a 200% faster 32-bit processor...
Are you sure it doesn't have tactile buttons? All I've seen is artist renderings and those are never exactly perfect.
Are you sure that it doesn't have a flash? I've yet to see even an artist rendering of the back side of the phone.
Where are you getting this information?
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Yes im sure i've tested it. Im not impressed at all....
screen shots and info: http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/T-Mobile-Wing-replaces-the-MDA-article-a_1863.html
And like i said... NO flash... ONLY 200 mhz processor ... messaging button is placed on the side and no tactile buttons above the screen. Below the screen there is the ok and windows button (worthless)
The link you gave is not the phone we are talking about...
papamopps said:
On XDA terra there is Radio 2.85 BUT i wasn´t able to dump it till now.
ANy help and I will dump - but with awizard it isn´t possible. And with pdocread also.
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Wish I could help, but I don't have the expertise with these to extract a radio. Hope someone else can give you a hand. "Nottoosmart" in the US has done a great job in cleaning things up and providing a reliable wm6. I don't believe he has expertise in the internals, but he appears to be very knowledgeable in putting a system together and removing troublesome "extras." Perhaps if you can get him a copy of the new radio he might be able to extract and test it.
Right now the RADIO is a huge problem. All of the hacks and "cooked" roms are worthless if the phone doesn't answer or work right.
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Wish I could help, but I don't have the expertise with these to extract a radio. Hope someone else can give you a hand. "Nottoosmart" in the US has done a great job in cleaning things up and providing a reliable wm6. I don't believe he has expertise in the internals, but he appears to be very knowledgeable in putting a system together and removing troublesome "extras." Perhaps if you can get him a copy of the new radio he might be able to extract and test it.
Right now the RADIO is a huge problem. All of the hacks and "cooked" roms are worthless if the phone doesn't answer or work right.
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The radio is inside my Device - i don´t have an .nbh or something like this. It is still INSIDE and i want to dump it from there - but no sucess till now.
lol
I've noticed that lots of people still use WM5 and I'm curious as to why? Out of the box my Uni has been ridiculously slow on WM5, even if I don't install all the add-in cabs. After upgrading to practically any WM6 rom here the speeds are more in line with what we can expect out of any 500mhz CE device.
So: Why still WM5? What are the benefits to keeping with WM5? Are there any examples that you guys have?
Perhaps because WM5 leaves more free RAM then WM6
For this users WM5 is more stable, but i`m not so sure, WM6 is better solution in my opinion
I personally find the opposite that you have.
WM5 for me is significantly faster than WM6.
Having cooked both WM5 and WM6 roms I will freely admit that WM6 is certainly less restrictive to work with from a developer point of view.
Also on the universal WM6 does not have fully functional videocall and WIFI WPA-PSK can be a pain.
Psi
WM6 as of now is really fast and responsive and doesn't crash anymore if you get the right ROMs. But I remember myself switching back from the early WM6 ROMs to WM5 because even as an early adopter there are limits and those clearly were reached with those releases. They would crash at least 5 times a day and would *never* survive the night. Also the speed was beyond what I would call pleasant even if it was not as bad as the first WM5 versions.
I remember installing the very first release on my x50v back then with high expectations. I was utterly disappointed by a start menu that took 5 seconds (no joke!) to unfold and an overall responsiveness worse than Vista's (which otherwise is the king of sluggishness). But I digress - let's get back to your question.
Besides the already mentioned bugs in the videocall and WiFi functions you also get a nice memory leak (less bad in some of the recent releases), sometimes cut off call notifications, problems with certain radio ROMs (which might be an issue under WM5, too), battery drain problems on some devices and many minor things that - despite our great developers efforts - make you realize that WM6 never was officially released for the Universal.
PsiDOC said:
I personally find the opposite that you have.
WM5 for me is significantly faster than WM6.
Having cooked both WM5 and WM6 roms I will freely admit that WM6 is certainly less restrictive to work with from a developer point of view.
Also on the universal WM6 does not have fully functional videocall and WIFI WPA-PSK can be a pain.
Psi
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I agree with you. We all know that wm6 does not operate at 100% all components of the universal, it has many flaws. At the moment I am still with wm5.
Greetings.
WI-FI and videocall DOES NOT WORK.
Nobody here can fix.
Would-be cooks tryed.. But nobody succeeded.
So: Why sould i use an operative system that CASTRATES Universal's Hardware?
I'm not masochist.
What about you?
Problem is that ONLY PsiDOC is workin'on WM5.
I thank you, PsiDOC..
Thank you very much...
DJ Palmis said:
WI-FI and videocall DOES NOT WORK.
Nobody here can fix.
Would-be cooks tryed.. But nobody succeeded.
So: Why sould i use an operative system that CASTRATES Universal's Hardware?
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my of us can fix .. but guru or not interesting in this .... or that functionality they dont use ... like me
mo3ulla said:
my of us can fix .. but guru or not interesting in this .... or that functionality they dont use ... like me
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[For Italian readers]
Sentite qualcuno può tradurre in inglese "M'AVETE STRAFRACASSATO I COGLIONCINI CON STA RISPOSTA DEL CAZZUS???"
[/italian readers]
Well, i should suggest you and your guru to buy my first mobile phone.
http://www.gigatel.hu/phones/0033.jpg
Belive me: It has the same weight of Universal and it is ONLY A PHONE!
I'm sure you all will like it!
If you want you can write on the top of the screen:
WINDOWS MOBILE 8 (BETA).
EVERYBODY WILL ENVY YOU!!!
NO USELESS FUNCTIONALITY.
NO USELESS VIDEOCALL.
NO USELESS SMS.
NO USELESS MMS.
NO ULTRAUSELESS WI-FI.
Well.. Useless if you live on Antarctic Circle.
BUT i live in Italy.
NO USELESS VIDEOCALL. - uselss in russia and in most part of world ...
NO USELESS SMS.- its work on all wm6
NO USELESS MMS. - mms hehe .. why use mms while we have email ?
NO ULTRAUSELESS WI-FI. - i use uni to coonect with GOLDEN WIFI internet provaider .. its open wifi network without key ... i dont need .. many others will agree with me
I am for WM6. I don't use video call (USELESS for me). WiFi - WPA-PSK works perfectly. No more memory leak as far as I can see. What else can I ask?
I use WM6 on both Universal and X51v.
mo3ulla said:
NO USELESS VIDEOCALL. - uselss in russia and in most part of world ...
NO USELESS SMS.- its work on all wm6
NO USELESS MMS. - mms hehe .. why use mms while we have email ?
NO ULTRAUSELESS WI-FI. - i use uni to coonect with GOLDEN WIFI internet provaider .. its open wifi network without key ... i dont need .. many others will agree with me
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You are absolutely right, I`m from Bulgaria and here we have a 3G with video calls support, but peoples don't use it (me too)
So you bought something that you can't use!
It's like a blind buy La Gioconda???
Why don't you buy a car in Venice or a TV in a desert island?
They are SO PRETTY USELESS!
Lol..
Sorry, but i can't understand your choiches.
DJ Palmis said:
So you bought something that you can't use!
It's like a blind buy La Gioconda???
Why don't you buy a car in Venice or a TV in a desert island?
They are SO PRETTY USELESS!
Lol..
Sorry, but i can't understand your choiches.
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Ha, ha ... I am thinking of buying a motor boat to travel the sahara.
And some wonder ... Why?
But I was indifferent, then I have my motorboat.
Ha, ha ...
I have a universal and I like to use 100%.
Greetings.
DJ Palmis said:
So you bought something that you can't use!
It's like a blind buy La Gioconda???
Why don't you buy a car in Venice or a TV in a desert island?
They are SO PRETTY USELESS!
Lol..
Sorry, but i can't understand your choiches.
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I bought my Universal (new + storage card) for 290$, are You kiddin me
And my choice is:
- big vga screen
- big qwerty keyboard
- fast processor
- laptop like construction
- WM6
My Uni right now has:
02 XDA Exec (G4)
WM6PRO Business AKU 0.7
16gb A-Data SDHC
Crystal Clear Case ;-)
Motorola H375 Bluetooth headset
I tried the other WM6 roms but as everyone just mentioned, memory/feature problems. I was really disappointed by thingonaspring's new wm6 rom but ultimately had issues with battery drainage and odd quirks!
I don't use videocall and all the other features work like a charm (particularly SDHC). I also never reboot with Laurentius' WM6Pro Business Rom! (THANK YOU!) Funny mentioning wifi problems but I haven't had an issue with them once going into my router and making sure the settings match.
Anyway, I'd like to try a WM5 rom, especially if there's speed improvements. Are there any you guys recommend? I'm mostly concerned with stability and speed. Oh, and SDHC is a must so I can use my 16gb SDHC card. ;-)
axebox said:
My Uni right now has:
02 XDA Exec (G4)
WM6PRO Business AKU 0.7
16gb A-Data SDHC
Crystal Clear Case ;-)
Motorola H375 Bluetooth headset
I tried the other WM6 roms but as everyone just mentioned, memory/feature problems. I was really disappointed by thingonaspring's new wm6 rom but ultimately had issues with battery drainage and odd quirks!
I don't use videocall and all the other features work like a charm (particularly SDHC). I also never reboot with Laurentius' WM6Pro Business Rom! (THANK YOU!) Funny mentioning wifi problems but I haven't had an issue with them once going into my router and making sure the settings match.
Anyway, I'd like to try a WM5 rom, especially if there's speed improvements. Are there any you guys recommend? I'm mostly concerned with stability and speed. Oh, and SDHC is a must so I can use my 16gb SDHC card. ;-)
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Which version of Laurentius' WM6Pro do you use, i am new to all this & have tried 2.08.01 which was good apart from contacts & 2.09.01 which works ok but didn't seem to be as stable, with some programs not working as expected. I would like to stick with WM6 if possible. Is there a vanilla Laurentius 2.08.01 around somewhere.
fed up of wm6
hi i had flashed almost all the WM6 roms, was not fully satisfied.. i found only JW's ROM stable, others had issues.. now im back to WM5, and trying to flash some of the cooked WM5 like Psidoc's .. so far im happy with WM5.. i changed the look a bit, using WM6 theme..
Im using Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM 2.12.08 WWE and love the speed and its very stable. WPA TSK works fine and I have never wanted to make a video call anyway. yes its got a little less ram. on average about 4-5mb less but I can live with that aslo
Pros & Cons
WM6 Advantages (most of the ROMs here)
- better interface, icons
- improved speed
- stable (some of the ROMs are, especially Jwrights & Ranjus latest)
- powerful search function
WM6 Disadvantages
- no videocall
- WiFI unstable for certain configurations
- certain ROMs have SYNC issues especially notes (Ranju's works perfectly)
- camera response is quite slow and some have memory buffer issues
WM5 Advantages (T-Mobile Official AKU3.3, get the latest release on January 2008)
- stable
- all the functions are working and utilized 100%
- good speed (similar to WM6)
- supports SDHC (I tested with 4GB SDHC card)
WM5 Disadvantages
- lacking on the GUI
My verdict
If you want better GUI, go for my favourite Ranju's v5.1 (I have not tested v6 yet), its a very well designed ROM.
If you want full functionality, go for T-Mobile Official AKU3.3 WM5 ROM (January 2008 released), i am using it currently as to support for Video Calling.
Otherwise, TRIAL & ERROR, find the one that suits you. Or you may help the developers by flashing their ROM and provide FEEDBACK to them, to let the grow and improve.
Thats it.
The keyword, spend some time in the Forums here, flashing, and patience, you may love your UNI even more...
Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
Most of our legendary developers (JWright, Midget, Leo, Beasty, Helmi) now have different devices, or looking at a new one anyway.
Hopefully our other developers and cookers can continue their work, but it is unlikely that we will see new ROMs and completely new builds of WM6 as we have seen in the past.
I would ask you that you always read the wiki first, and that you don't clog the threads asking developers to release new versions
funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni
mo3ulla said:
funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni
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I stand corrected
Nevertheless, we're running out of developers for the Universal...
Just got to wait for the Omni
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wait for the Omni
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omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards
mo3ulla said:
omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards
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Un-standard Screen:
There are a couple of other devices with this (so Microsoft must have a solution). But your right, there are a lot of poorly written applications out there.
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
Screen Rotation:
Haven't actually heard anything about the screen rotation (do you have a link?). But yes, if its more complex then its more likely to fail
SD Card:
Unfortunately I do have to agree with you on this. Micro-SD is available upto 12Gb (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/sandisk-crams-12gb-onto-a-microsdhc-card/) it is *a lot* more expensive than standard SD
So, if the Omni is not a good replacement, and the Universal is growing old - (I can't believe I'm about to ask this question, I love my Uni!) what can we switch to??
I really hope Mo3ulla & Ranju will come up something good and stable and hopefully final (bugs free, welll almost...) ...
TehPenguin said:
Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
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It is a sad day for all of us.
TehPenguin said:
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
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hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh
mo3ulla said:
hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh
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You are absolutely right, we are really not benifited from the v5...v6 ARM commands. Eventually I'm sure that the shared xscale graphics is more than enough (unless you're using your uni as a playstation).
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
Ditto Beasty - I'm not jumping ship anytime soon.
The only weakness I can see with the Uni is the 64mb ram, and that can always be fixed.
beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Your words were a beam of light through the clouds. In fact, uni is the best PDA till now any one could obtain it. I have had uni since its firts release at the end of 2005, but due to an accident i converted to many other PDAs, wizard, profit and Tytn. In a lucky day i found a person who repaired my Uni, I was too happy to return back to Uni enjoying all what i have lost with other PDAs, the big and high resolution screen, the full keyboard with dedicated 0-9 numbers keys, a tab and big buttons. with the angeled screen i can use the keyboard to dial numbers easly (in wm6 of course) i seldom use the touch screen now to dial, beleive me i have the sensation the I got freed again after a long time of constriction with other PDAs.
But unfortnately there is some cons with uni without them i"ll never think to convert away from uni for more couples of years:
- The problems in radio:
1- the hanging that may occur when dialling, where the screen is stuck on dialing but not actually dialing and u cannot end call. You can go away from phone and use PDA but u must soft reset to use phone again.
2- this occured only once with me, where many persons called me but the phone didn'r ring nor notify the call by any means, every thing is ok with the PDA, i can use it normally but the GSM module is not working at all.
3- The uni may hang with incoming calls, it will hang with the incoming call screen popup without notifyin me, and i discover it when come to use Uni.
- The deficient vedio call in wm6 (it is not so important, i don't use it for routine calls)
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
I don't know much about Omni, but from ur opinions about it, i think it is not a huge jump from Uni, and there is no need to convert to it from lovely Uni.
Regards
beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
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Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Well said Beasty! Thanks for uplifting 'downed' spirits!
Not only Mamaich, we also have The Darkforces Team just in case people had forgotten that most of the new ROM builds floating around came from them, remember the leaked ROM a few months back?
I think our Uni has some juice left even for WM6.1 & the latest enhancements available for her younger VGA sister Athena! The 128Mb RAM hack by Mamaich will prove it's worth in the long run.
As always, a new Uni era will arrive to replace the last one!
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent
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I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
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WOW!! An Universal with 6.1.1 and 128Mb...
beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Guess I was being a bit gloomy because I haven't updated my ROM in a few months, and I heard a few of the developers were getting new devices.
So, I'm downloading ranju's new ROM, and I'll see how that goes...
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
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Thats a good point.
If a lot of HTC's software doesn't work well with VGA devices, why would HTC release a WVGA device?? Guess that kinda makes the Omni look *very* doubtful...
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running WM 6.1.1
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how many trial period remain ????? ( who in theme will understand what i mean)
Midget_1990 said:
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent
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Forgive me if I unintentionally overlooked you Sir as one of the ROM builders!
There it goes fellow Uni owners, our own mod itself has WM6.1.1 ROM confirmed running in Uni. I'm curious when it's going to be made "public"
My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.
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My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.
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Hey Davince,
Long time since we've seen you around my friend......
I have to disagree with you my friend, as far as Business productivity tool, nothing on the market has come close to the Universal......... it is the only device with a decent sized screen for writing emails and working with documents and no other device has a keyboard as comprehensive or useable as the Uni's.
The Universal era has not ended, with the introduction of Mamaich's great patch to support 128 mb memory and SDHC cards, you will find it impossible to find another PDA on the market that matches for speed, functionality and storage capacity. The Kaiser and other devices that use mini SD's can only support 16GB cards........the Uni beats that too.
The Uni has been reborn, and is far from dead my friend!!
Cheers,
Beasty
I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !
there's no WM6.5 original since 6.5 isn't released yet, plus there will neveer be 6.5 for Kaiser official.
The problems you have aren't connected to 6.5 but maybe old radio I guess.
all the rooms are beta versions of wm 6.5. offical final release will be october 2009 but we dont expect offical release for kaiser.
try flashing a different radio version
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I'd like to try wm6.5 original...somebody has this rom ? I tried a lot of roms but dont work well in based 6.5 ...some phone numbers cant be called , etc Maybe original rom wm 6.5 is good ...Thanks !
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you should have emailed htc support instead of starting a new thread for this. please read rules about starting new threads.
Where do you live? Who is your service provider? Ah wait, it doesnt matter! Kaiser is too old for them to release an official version anyways...
I thought HTC said they will have an official 6.5 upgrade for any device 400Mhz and above. However, no providers will have an offical upgrade... But technically its the same, because you can just flash the roms found here... They are usually faster than original...
i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update
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i noticed that htc provided a Hotfix to enhance the security mechanism of Bluetooth service which is dated 2009-07-31 so maybe, just maybe they still might be remembering that the kaiser exists and might provide a wm6.5 rom update
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HTC doesn't have to license a hot fix from M$. HTC is not about to spend their profits or R&D money licensing software for a phone they don't sell or even make anymore. No chance, no way. Besides, do you really think that Microsoft's 6.5 will be anything more than a waste of time or money ?
Will it run better than the 6.5' s we currently have in this forum ? Will it have more customization options ? Will it have more pre-installed apps ? Will it come with more support ?
No.....no....no.....and no ! So what's the point ?
In the US, AT&T does not see Tilt anymore! Not even refurbished ones...so if they dont sell it, then no updates...
denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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denco: If HTC or AT&T would make 6.5 for kaiser, we would have new nk.exe for 6.5 . Plus new optimized apps directly for Kaiser. But that would be the only thing that would be better from original first.
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i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules
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But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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LOL...yea exactly...
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i wish there was some way to modify the nk.exe for 6.5 from other devices which already have it for our kaiser, then there would be no need to recmod and we would also have additional space for more modules
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Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...
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Ok it is my understanding that you have recmod to not to use up slot 0...so I think you will have to recmod no matter what...
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this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"
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this is what i've read...
"WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)"
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Yup in theory it sounds wonderful, but I dont think it makes a difference in reality. I do have a touch pro 2, which is the same WM sluggish one!
I came back to STOCK wm 6.1 work perfect...IGO 8 and radio , but on this forum are many fancy people....Thanks them !
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But again, that would be like Skoda Auto coming out with a brand new set of performance tires, for a car they do not even make anymore.
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Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
Microsoft needs to break free of allowing releases of their mobile OS to be dictated by the device OEMs. It's a terrible practice and one of the reasons their market share in the mobile device sector is shrinking.
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Umm, or like Apple releasing new firmware for the original iPhone, which they don't make anymore... wait a minute.
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And if M$ only sold ONE phone " the Kaiser " in different variants I am sure they would release 6.5 for it.
WM 6.5 RTM's about two months ago and if you look at Josh koss thread he has a link in his sig that has the official 6.5 RTM release(21234) from MS. However there will be no RTM build for the Kaiser from HTC, but Josh's works fine. This 21234 build was the RTM build that is in the developer toolkit, and will be the build that all companies will use to create there 6.5 official releases.
As for the current 6.5 builds that everyone has those are the beta builds for 6.5.1 that will be released for the first capacitive screens, and be the "basic" WM6.5 that will ship on lower end phones not capable of running WM7.