htc magician wm2005 upgrade For T-mobile Explanation
Next Release:
No further release expected. This device is unable to be upgraded to Windows Mobile™ 5.0 operating system. The new MDA Compact II device will be a Microsoft Windows Mobile™ 5.0 device expected later this month.
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magician wm2005 coming soon
Hey what so happy about it? I think you misunderstood the statement.
they said, the new MDA Compact II is going to come out. and yes, its already came out, with the model name Charmer or Prophet (i forget )
so, still, no WM2005 for Magician.
Yep:
"This device is UNABLE TO BE UPGRADED to Windows Mobile 5.0".
I still think the producers are being lazy. There's no reason it should not support an Intel PXA272 base, because that's like the most common WM processor around, and its still in use too. Portable RAM, BT and Radio Stack technology hasn't changed a hell lot enough to not even have any driver support.
If this isn't forced obsolescence I don't know what is.
ya lor of course i tink its not because device not supported, but just simply : marketing and commercial issue
maybe they came out with new product and wont allow wm2005 for magician to avoid product cannibalism
I agree with you
it certainly supports wm2005
yes
it is launched with name charmer grey nad pink colour
g3 chipset
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I currently have a PDA2K BlueAngel, I know that there is no official upgrade to WM5.0 and that some are working on hacking one but it probably won't be for a while.
What I wanted to know is which devices do have an upgrade to WM5.0 as personnaly I don't like the HTC Universal and don't want to spend another $900.00 for a new model, I just want the upgrade.[/b]
There's an upgrade in this forum for the Himalaya. The last time I checked, it was in ver. 1.60 a (I think). Hopefully this helps
Do you know if it will work on the Andes? From what I understand its the same device just a better camera.
it's not the same device with a better cam it have a different cpu and wifi if i recall correct
no rom have been transported from one device to another that i know of
So can anyone tell me which devices that are currently available have WM5.0 tried and tested on them.
Like what the sale name is?
i.e. O2 XDA ??, PDA??
of the htc family only the himalayas and at that it's
not the final 2005 but a beta version
it's not more likely to get the final version then the rest of the
htc devices i guess
himalaya are xda2 mda2 qtek2020 and the other names you can see under their forum
So, what do you think?
(I hope this is not considered a rant)
We're actually just waiting on the Buzz/Raptor news. We'll all kno the answer soon enough I guess.
I agree, if the news is coming from Buzz, I have no doubt whether the ROM exists or not.
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
tjempeng said:
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
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Me too.
What will change with wm2005? There are tons of wm2003 applications for our devices to keep us satisfied for long long time. I am not saying that I am not interested in getting a working rom for magician, but if this doesn't happen in the right way (official upgrade) we will have many problems and no support at all. So apart from satisfying our curiosity what is our gain?
I must admit that I am rather curious mind, so I'll probably be one of the first to try to put the wm2005 rom in my magician, but I am not expecting much and I am sure after some day coping with the problems I and many others would like to switch back to the good old wm2003.
Anyway I wish good luck to Buzz and all the other guys invloved in this "adventurous" project.
If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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I am not talking about an official version but for a leaked one. The official of course should be better and have more benefits! That's undoubtable!
And if you are wondering for the difference about win98 and XP, try installing and living with XP on a Pentium 166. Simply you can't because p166 was not designed to be able to handle winXP.
I own a computer shop and people where asking for Windows 98 on a Pentium 4 - 1.4GHz with 256 or 512MB RAM!
Regarding WM5, agreed, I'm only talking about a stable version (whether it's official or not). Mind you, the WM5 we're all waiting for IS MEANT to run on the Magician as it was specifically built for it. Otherwise it wouldn't work in the first place.
And according to Microsoft, the Magician meets the WM5 minimum requirements, mainly being an Xscale compatible CPU, 64MB RAM and 64MB ROM.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=726702
Check out the O2 XDA Atom...
1. The O2 XDA Atom will have the same processor (or type) as the HTC Magician.
2. The O2 XDA Atom will have Windows Mobile 5.0 (along with other nice things like a long-awaited FM tuner)
3. HTC could have made a Windows Mobile 5.0 build for the Magician and given it some more life, but new devices is the main reason they didn't. More profit here.
4. You guys will be all over this like a free porn DVD giveaway, and get this ROM ported over to the Magician in total defiance of HTC's abandonment stance.
5. Some of you will buy it anyway.
UPDATE: The Atom is not designed by HTC, so chances of ROM portability to the Magician just got a lot slimmer.
That Atom looks very very nice. I would almost be tempted to bankrupt myself if it weren't for the fact that the price tag is, praise the Lord, far too high for me to even consider it.
'praise the Lord' :?:
Hi Everyone!!!!!!!!
I´m Thinking About Buying The Palm Treo 750v Of Vodafone, But As I Know It Was Released Almost One Year Ago, I Thought That Soon Or Later, There´ll Be A Brand New Model Or Successor Of The Treo 750v And Wait For It.
What Do U Think Buddies???
Thxs In Advance
There is *always* a new phone around the corner.
It's just like computers.
If you wait, you'll never buy anything.
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There is *always* a new phone around the corner.
It's just like computers.
If you wait, you'll never buy anything.
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What u´ve said is really true, but you all know what I mean. Just in case there will be a brand new realease coming soon, I should wait for it. DOn´t u think that??
I just need some info.
Thanks
Palm is rather in a 'mess' now to retaliate MS attacks from the PDA/smartphone front. Various speculations are floating around the net, which includes Nokia (and others) to take over Palm, and Palm in ditching their PalmOs to Linux-based system. Palm did a marvelous jobs at tackling PPC's onslaughts on the PDA fronts during the last few years, but this PDA-Phone round is not very good for Palm. So, chances are that Treo750 may be very well be the end of one of the Palm's era. Hence, personally, I don't think there will be a new unit coming out very soon for Treo, and if it does, probably it will be very much different, which may not be inline with the reason you go for a Treo.
I have heard that palm treo 750 WM6 OS is coming for Cingular. It is ok to buy for now and Treo 750 is best for everyday use.
The next device from Palm is not a PPC, its a SP... Also the next PPC has GPS... Both are expected this year but not for a few months.
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The next device from Palm is not a PPC, its a SP... Also the next PPC has GPS... Both are expected this year but not for a few months.
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you mean a palm + phone using windows mobile? when?and how much?
thanks everyone
The miracle of google..
News news news... - "Palm will unveil a platform before the end of 2007 that runs the Palm OS on top of a Linux kernel" ... but .. "Palm will also continue to use Microsoft's Windows Mobile OS"... "Recent industry rumors have suggested that either Motorola or Nokia would buy the company, but those whispers died down when Palm..."
WM6 news
If you want one go for it, based on the speed that Palm released the upgrade to the GSM Treo I'd say the 750 is in for a while.
And the 680 wasn't much of an upgrade to the 650, more like the 650.1.
WM6 on the Treo 750
Palm have announced that a WM6 upgrade WILL be released for the Treo 750 in due course. The inside information I have is that it will be here by late august!
Get a Treo 750 dude they are Immense!
what do you think about getting an wifi mini sdcard for wireless connections, do you think it´s a good idea???
The problem is I´m hesitating whether to buy aplm treo 750v with vodafone or ubiquio 501.
What do you advise me guys?????
Well, personally, wireless is not something that I would use, however, I would still feel incomplete without. Only now I noticed that 750 doesnt have WiFi. How much difference in price are the Treo and Ubi501?
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Well, personally, wireless is not something that I would use, however, I would still feel incomplete without. Only now I noticed that 750 doesnt have WiFi. How much difference in price are the Treo and Ubi501?
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100 euros more or less.
I prefer the treo because in my opinion it´s more stylized than the ubi501, but the lack is it has no wireless capabities.
Ubi501 processor is OMAP 850 at 200mHz, very slow based on my own experiences but could be enough. The screen is 240x240 and it may have some problems installing some softwares on it, but i think it´s he same siza than the palm.
My aim is getting a very very very small device indeed with keyboard such as treo or ubi501 and if it is possible with the best wireless capabilites.
ANy suggestions?????
You may need to check with your specs again. From what I've gathered so far, it seems that the only thing I can see Palm is better than this Ubi is the processor.
Screen wise, Palm is the one with 240x240 screen. This Ubi has QVGA screen (320x240). Ubi has larger storage, better camera, and only 1/2 as thick as Palm, it is SEXY.
Have you read this?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=248338
BTW, if what it said above is true, it maybe dodgy to get a phone, that is owned by Expansys.. in a way.. not as safe as getting it from Treo.. which.. well you decide.
The Ubi 501 is old news now and I agree does not compare to the Treo. However in June the Ubi 503G is releasing and it is looking to be a great device. Here is a link to a thread at HoFo where we have been discussing it.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1134535
Treo 755p.is due out soon and the linux/palm xovers will be out 08,life in the olddog yet
http://www.mobilewhack.com/sprint-treo-755p-photos-leaked/
it seems to be a palm powered device, isn´t it????
When I said sucessor, I meant, windows mobile powered.
what do you think???
well it shows new devices are still coming and treo have remarked lots of times that they will have dual releases,palm and windows to come,(also with linux too)
so its only a matter of time before a new windows device,why spend all that money to launch one windows device then,quit?
they will for sure be realsing further windows devices
its seems to me all pda,smartphones and mobile phone makers,are at the moment holding back,im sure behidn the scenes,its all about tryign ti figure out how to get voip and gps right and fit them into there devices
i belive there will be a few genral releases from all makers,plodding on then once they have it all sorted the output will be hughe
look at nokia ,rushing to be first to market with the n95,people are so demanding with there devices nowdays,i suspect another windows powered treo before xmas for the usa and for the rest of us in 1st q8
jaceuk said:
well it shows new devices are still coming and treo have remarked lots of times that they will have dual releases,palm and windows to come,(also with linux too)
so its only a matter of time before a new windows device,why spend all that money to launch one windows device then,quit?
they will for sure be realsing further windows devices
its seems to me all pda,smartphones and mobile phone makers,are at the moment holding back,im sure behidn the scenes,its all about tryign ti figure out how to get voip and gps right and fit them into there devices
i belive there will be a few genral releases from all makers,plodding on then once they have it all sorted the output will be hughe
look at nokia ,rushing to be first to market with the n95,people are so demanding with there devices nowdays,i suspect another windows powered treo before xmas for the usa and for the rest of us in 1st q8
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I agree with you about they will release a brand new treo powered by WM6 bf Xmas, but that sounds very late on time, doesn´t it????
I´m not sure if they´ll release another on bf that time, because in my opinion they have to make some profits with the first treo with Microsoft on it, don´t you think?
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Interesting stuff, what I like the most is that it says "Most likely" WM7 can be used on older devices because all the changes like screen rotation with device will use the cam instead of hardware like accelerometers and stuff... wonder how long till my wizard is sporting WM7...
they gonna turn ppc's into sm/iphone/touch ****?
WM7 can be used on older devices
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...taking 40 of 47 mb mem free.....
does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?
WM7 on an 2-year old wizard?
Realistically, the chances of WM7 running on a standard Wizard are somewhere between slim and none. I can offer two strong reasons: memory and speed. As someone noted earlier there are only 49 MB of program memory. Right now mine has only 19 free. If Microsoft follows its normal OS expansion rate, 49 MB won't be nearly enough.
As for speed - we,, we all know how fast the Wizards's chip is and - even with overclocking - it's slow. And in a year it will seem slower still.
So.. unless someone is going to begin to sell an aftermarket Wizard chipset on a higher capacity and faster piece of silicon - which I find unlikely and uneconomical -WM7 just isn't in the cards for old Wizards.
Having said that, I would love to be wrong.
You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
Well too bad couldn't have said the same for my MPX300 it was stuck with WM2003se............ but WM6 seem a bit cool tho.............
You have the MPX300?? Interested in selling?
it's not 100% tho ............ water got on the screen so i can't get past the screen alignment when i reset the phone
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You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
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True, pity mine sucks as it has a habit of spontaneously discharging the battery so I can't turn it on, thus I switched to the Wizard and now my iPhone.
EDIT: Looking at that Windows Mobile 7 article, I'm severely tempted back to Windows Mobile if that takes off!
I don't think wizard can handle wm7 (full OS) but i'm sure rom chef's will find tha way to adapt some programs that will be used with it... maybe some hacking will allow software to be run in an acceptable level... not the OS but the feeling of it...
I heard that wm7 will be released on 2009. Is it true? I hope they will release it in this year.
b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
i bet they release this year cause of the iphone even though its overated people are buying it instead of windows mobile phones. Looks like it will be out next september i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise. The HTC touch should get an update to WM7 as the touchflo isnt that great tbh.
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now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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watting 4 your upload.
many thanks in advance!
" i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise."
sadly at times picturs dont say 1000 words
by that logic the game dukenukeem forever would
had been released 10years agoe
musungus77 said:
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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waiting also
I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
cortez said:
I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
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Me too. when ms had wizard on microsoft surface trailers, they should test wm7 on it
b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have real WM 6.1 WWE yet?
can we update our imate sp5m (tornado) to this Windows Phone 7 ?
is that compatible with this phone ?
gsmsikar said:
can we update our imate sp5m (tornado) to this Windows Phone 7 ?
is that compatible with this phone ?
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should not be forced because WM7 is not compatible for your device (HTC Tornado) and will only make it hard brick device
Short answer is simply: NO - Never. Look up the article in Wikipedia about Windows Mobile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7 - especially the HW requirements at the bottom.
HW Requirements are so much above the level that the Tornado can offer, and this is for ALL areas (except the number of buttons) that only devices that can get close to that (e.g. the HD2) have a chance to see WM7.
The same is true for Android in most areas btw. Despite there are some efforts to port that OS to old WM phones, I have not seen (and do not expect as well) any serious results.
The Tornado is such a nice all-day phone with a form factor that neither WM7 nor Android devices offer (except the X10-mini) that it will stay with me quite some time until selection of small phones increases.