Hi Everyone!!!!!!!!
I´m Thinking About Buying The Palm Treo 750v Of Vodafone, But As I Know It Was Released Almost One Year Ago, I Thought That Soon Or Later, There´ll Be A Brand New Model Or Successor Of The Treo 750v And Wait For It.
What Do U Think Buddies???
Thxs In Advance
There is *always* a new phone around the corner.
It's just like computers.
If you wait, you'll never buy anything.
gamescan said:
There is *always* a new phone around the corner.
It's just like computers.
If you wait, you'll never buy anything.
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What u´ve said is really true, but you all know what I mean. Just in case there will be a brand new realease coming soon, I should wait for it. DOn´t u think that??
I just need some info.
Thanks
Palm is rather in a 'mess' now to retaliate MS attacks from the PDA/smartphone front. Various speculations are floating around the net, which includes Nokia (and others) to take over Palm, and Palm in ditching their PalmOs to Linux-based system. Palm did a marvelous jobs at tackling PPC's onslaughts on the PDA fronts during the last few years, but this PDA-Phone round is not very good for Palm. So, chances are that Treo750 may be very well be the end of one of the Palm's era. Hence, personally, I don't think there will be a new unit coming out very soon for Treo, and if it does, probably it will be very much different, which may not be inline with the reason you go for a Treo.
I have heard that palm treo 750 WM6 OS is coming for Cingular. It is ok to buy for now and Treo 750 is best for everyday use.
The next device from Palm is not a PPC, its a SP... Also the next PPC has GPS... Both are expected this year but not for a few months.
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The next device from Palm is not a PPC, its a SP... Also the next PPC has GPS... Both are expected this year but not for a few months.
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you mean a palm + phone using windows mobile? when?and how much?
thanks everyone
The miracle of google..
News news news... - "Palm will unveil a platform before the end of 2007 that runs the Palm OS on top of a Linux kernel" ... but .. "Palm will also continue to use Microsoft's Windows Mobile OS"... "Recent industry rumors have suggested that either Motorola or Nokia would buy the company, but those whispers died down when Palm..."
WM6 news
If you want one go for it, based on the speed that Palm released the upgrade to the GSM Treo I'd say the 750 is in for a while.
And the 680 wasn't much of an upgrade to the 650, more like the 650.1.
WM6 on the Treo 750
Palm have announced that a WM6 upgrade WILL be released for the Treo 750 in due course. The inside information I have is that it will be here by late august!
Get a Treo 750 dude they are Immense!
what do you think about getting an wifi mini sdcard for wireless connections, do you think it´s a good idea???
The problem is I´m hesitating whether to buy aplm treo 750v with vodafone or ubiquio 501.
What do you advise me guys?????
Well, personally, wireless is not something that I would use, however, I would still feel incomplete without. Only now I noticed that 750 doesnt have WiFi. How much difference in price are the Treo and Ubi501?
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Well, personally, wireless is not something that I would use, however, I would still feel incomplete without. Only now I noticed that 750 doesnt have WiFi. How much difference in price are the Treo and Ubi501?
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100 euros more or less.
I prefer the treo because in my opinion it´s more stylized than the ubi501, but the lack is it has no wireless capabities.
Ubi501 processor is OMAP 850 at 200mHz, very slow based on my own experiences but could be enough. The screen is 240x240 and it may have some problems installing some softwares on it, but i think it´s he same siza than the palm.
My aim is getting a very very very small device indeed with keyboard such as treo or ubi501 and if it is possible with the best wireless capabilites.
ANy suggestions?????
You may need to check with your specs again. From what I've gathered so far, it seems that the only thing I can see Palm is better than this Ubi is the processor.
Screen wise, Palm is the one with 240x240 screen. This Ubi has QVGA screen (320x240). Ubi has larger storage, better camera, and only 1/2 as thick as Palm, it is SEXY.
Have you read this?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=248338
BTW, if what it said above is true, it maybe dodgy to get a phone, that is owned by Expansys.. in a way.. not as safe as getting it from Treo.. which.. well you decide.
The Ubi 501 is old news now and I agree does not compare to the Treo. However in June the Ubi 503G is releasing and it is looking to be a great device. Here is a link to a thread at HoFo where we have been discussing it.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1134535
Treo 755p.is due out soon and the linux/palm xovers will be out 08,life in the olddog yet
http://www.mobilewhack.com/sprint-treo-755p-photos-leaked/
it seems to be a palm powered device, isn´t it????
When I said sucessor, I meant, windows mobile powered.
what do you think???
well it shows new devices are still coming and treo have remarked lots of times that they will have dual releases,palm and windows to come,(also with linux too)
so its only a matter of time before a new windows device,why spend all that money to launch one windows device then,quit?
they will for sure be realsing further windows devices
its seems to me all pda,smartphones and mobile phone makers,are at the moment holding back,im sure behidn the scenes,its all about tryign ti figure out how to get voip and gps right and fit them into there devices
i belive there will be a few genral releases from all makers,plodding on then once they have it all sorted the output will be hughe
look at nokia ,rushing to be first to market with the n95,people are so demanding with there devices nowdays,i suspect another windows powered treo before xmas for the usa and for the rest of us in 1st q8
jaceuk said:
well it shows new devices are still coming and treo have remarked lots of times that they will have dual releases,palm and windows to come,(also with linux too)
so its only a matter of time before a new windows device,why spend all that money to launch one windows device then,quit?
they will for sure be realsing further windows devices
its seems to me all pda,smartphones and mobile phone makers,are at the moment holding back,im sure behidn the scenes,its all about tryign ti figure out how to get voip and gps right and fit them into there devices
i belive there will be a few genral releases from all makers,plodding on then once they have it all sorted the output will be hughe
look at nokia ,rushing to be first to market with the n95,people are so demanding with there devices nowdays,i suspect another windows powered treo before xmas for the usa and for the rest of us in 1st q8
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I agree with you about they will release a brand new treo powered by WM6 bf Xmas, but that sounds very late on time, doesn´t it????
I´m not sure if they´ll release another on bf that time, because in my opinion they have to make some profits with the first treo with Microsoft on it, don´t you think?
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So, what do you think?
(I hope this is not considered a rant)
We're actually just waiting on the Buzz/Raptor news. We'll all kno the answer soon enough I guess.
I agree, if the news is coming from Buzz, I have no doubt whether the ROM exists or not.
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
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well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
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Me too.
What will change with wm2005? There are tons of wm2003 applications for our devices to keep us satisfied for long long time. I am not saying that I am not interested in getting a working rom for magician, but if this doesn't happen in the right way (official upgrade) we will have many problems and no support at all. So apart from satisfying our curiosity what is our gain?
I must admit that I am rather curious mind, so I'll probably be one of the first to try to put the wm2005 rom in my magician, but I am not expecting much and I am sure after some day coping with the problems I and many others would like to switch back to the good old wm2003.
Anyway I wish good luck to Buzz and all the other guys invloved in this "adventurous" project.
If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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I am not talking about an official version but for a leaked one. The official of course should be better and have more benefits! That's undoubtable!
And if you are wondering for the difference about win98 and XP, try installing and living with XP on a Pentium 166. Simply you can't because p166 was not designed to be able to handle winXP.
I own a computer shop and people where asking for Windows 98 on a Pentium 4 - 1.4GHz with 256 or 512MB RAM!
Regarding WM5, agreed, I'm only talking about a stable version (whether it's official or not). Mind you, the WM5 we're all waiting for IS MEANT to run on the Magician as it was specifically built for it. Otherwise it wouldn't work in the first place.
And according to Microsoft, the Magician meets the WM5 minimum requirements, mainly being an Xscale compatible CPU, 64MB RAM and 64MB ROM.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=726702
Check out the O2 XDA Atom...
1. The O2 XDA Atom will have the same processor (or type) as the HTC Magician.
2. The O2 XDA Atom will have Windows Mobile 5.0 (along with other nice things like a long-awaited FM tuner)
3. HTC could have made a Windows Mobile 5.0 build for the Magician and given it some more life, but new devices is the main reason they didn't. More profit here.
4. You guys will be all over this like a free porn DVD giveaway, and get this ROM ported over to the Magician in total defiance of HTC's abandonment stance.
5. Some of you will buy it anyway.
UPDATE: The Atom is not designed by HTC, so chances of ROM portability to the Magician just got a lot slimmer.
That Atom looks very very nice. I would almost be tempted to bankrupt myself if it weren't for the fact that the price tag is, praise the Lord, far too high for me to even consider it.
'praise the Lord' :?:
Treo 680's Palm OS® 5.4.9 on the Treo 750v... I wonder, is it possible?
Maybe, I think that the 680 shares the same hardware...
The screen resolutions are not the same....WM is 240x240, Palm is 320x320.
Why on earth would you want to swap a new WM5 OS for an at least 5 year old PalmOS (basis PalmOS 5)
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Why on earth would you want to swap a new WM5 OS for an at least 5 year old PalmOS (basis PalmOS 5)
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Second that question *ggg*
It is possible!
Actually, it's WM5 that has compatibility issues with 320x320 screen resolution, not the Treo hardware. Once again we can thank Microsoft for not having thought of this possibility.
Why do I want to swap it? Because as I suspected, it's twice as fast as the 650 with Palm OS on it and I am disappointed with WM5's performance on the 750v. Plus 240x240 is a step back as far as I'm concerned.
The 750v does take the Palm OS 5.4.9 on 320x320 and it's a breeze!
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Once again we can thank Microsoft for not having thought of this possibility.
The 750v does take the Palm OS 5.4.9 on 320x320 and it's a breeze!
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True WM5 doesn't support 320x320 but it does support 480x480 today which is pixel doubling from 240x240. Just because you want 320x320 today, don't slam MS, they were actually thinking forward with the resolution to future devices and screens. Read about it here if you want the MS perspective.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/02/14/531972.aspx
As for the 680, does it support UTMS? I was under the impression the POS was unable to support UTMS data networks...
The hardware between the 680 and the 750 are totally different. They only look similar.
Please let the Palm OS die...
I was playing with the 680 this week and they are not the same hardware. Its just the same shell, different screen res, memory card type, and the buttons are positioned differently.
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I was playing with the 680 this week and they are not the same hardware. Its just the same shell, different screen res, memory card type, and the buttons are positioned differently.
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Yes, but they were made at the same time. Like the 700's: W and P. If they could put UMTS in a Palm phone, they would have.
Treo 750v with Palm OS!
Is Palm OS really possible on Treo 750v?? Does someone know how to get there?
I have 750v in German and I need English on it...?
Have to say that after Treo 650, MS OS on 750v is crap and slow as rented mule!!!
Voilition - You want Palm OS on 750v ?
K.. I'll trade you my 680 for your 750v and you have what you need and I will too... Lemmeknow....
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Treo 680's Palm OS® 5.4.9 on the Treo 750v... I wonder, is it possible?
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zoranpu said:
Is Palm OS really possible on Treo 750v?? Does someone know how to get there?
I have 750v in German and I need English on it...?
Have to say that after Treo 650, MS OS on 750v is crap and slow as rented mule!!!
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It is NOT possible and it will never be possible. They are different hardware.
If you want Palm OS apps on WM, just get Styletap. Best of both worlds.
http://www.styletap.com/
Styletap is quite primitive though.... its like one step back...
the appearance of palm app on styletap is horrible due to the 240/320 pixel alignment. I can imagine how bad it looks like for Palm OS on 750v hardware
zoranpu said:
Is Palm OS really possible on Treo 750v?? Does someone know how to get there?
I have 750v in German and I need English on it...?
Have to say that after Treo 650, MS OS on 750v is crap and slow as rented mule!!!
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I had the 650 and I now have the 750v and I can't say that the 750v is slow.
It always depends on the installed programs, if you install a lot of third party "crap", don't be surprised. Also try to keep your programs up-to-date, sometimes an update can do wonders to memory management.
As to Palm OS on the 750v: IMPOSSIBLE, completely different hardware. The Treo 680 has a pretty "basic" GSM part, nothing else. While the Treo 750v has a Quadband GSM phone and a Triband UMTS module. Difference is like day and night.
wtf are you talking about? tro 755p or whatever one that looked like the treo 750.....blue one, has the same hardware that treo 750 the same palm os 230x230 screen and perfectly works on treo 750,i have already tried it resulting in a new treo 755p, however you first have to remove and add some inner parts of the treo 755p to the 750, for the wich you better stay with wm 5 or 6 now....
Moved from: Palm Treo 750 > Palm Treo 750 ROM Development
To: Palm Treo 750 > Palm Treo 750
ive discovered why it works with my treo and no in others, it has nothing to do with resolucion its all the same, but the treo 750 its actually a wifi missing htc hermes rebuild, its basically a hermes with treo look and no wifi.....
Is this thing for real?
http://www.meizu-minione.info/m8_iphone_comparison.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...g-8gb-first-gets-70-price-increase-285800.php
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/05/details-emerge-on-meizu-m8-minione-pricing/
http://www.intoiphone.com/apple-iphone-competitors-killers
I mean..
>500MHz
720x480 x 24bpp screen
integrated storage >8GB
Windows Mobile 6
WCDMA and GSM
and it starts at $195?
is this some kind of fantasy?
It is real, but it is far from $195, closer to $800. According to them it is scheduled to come out in December but you won't see it until next year.
May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...
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May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...
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Meizu has been making MP3 players ( http://en.meizu.com/ ) for 4 years, but that's true: they hasn't made any Windows CE based device ever, until now.
I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)
They are offering another Iphone clone for 169 Euros in the NL. The CECT Clone. So the pricing could be correct.
This will run probably CE 5.2 so we can take all the goodies we have to this phone and from this phone!
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I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)
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Yes, As I read it doesn't run WM6 but Windows CE 6.0 under a special miniOne GUI so it can't run conventional Pocket PC apps. Unless the miniOne GUI only an app which runs on WM6 but I haven't read about this anywhere, so it isn't likely.
It can run most PPC apps, that's real.
Yeah, multitouch and USB Host / Client
now that's what i call an iPhone killer :O
the functions / ui of the apple phone + the things i love about wm (great community, so much programs, etc.)
I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one
it definitely looks as the best PMP player and phone together.
if only it could run WM apps, it would rock..
Apps on Meizu
I got my hands on one of these devices and it is pretty slick. There are still lots of bugs in the os, but new versions are still being put out there. It sucks that it does not run WM apps. I have found 2 that work. Coreplayer and TCPMP run well on it, but really are not needed because the integrated player works well.
I am hoping someone will develop a Windows Mobile rom that will run on this device. It would really rock.
i really want this phone. It may not be an HTC phone but Meizu has some big potential.
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I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one
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M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell
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M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell
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just ordered on of these phones from best deals online in singapore. £689 SGD or bout £311. not sure if i trust site so i put COD. see what happens.someone will develop a rom for that which make it rock. still only available as beta as stated previously due to licensing probs. don't know how they can sell it but i want one. so much potential
M8
you all should look at www.meizume.com
it rocks or not
have seen this Phone
before i am out
to buy my HTC TP2
in some Onlinestore`s
the Technical Data Rocks,
soo i ll say ,
but think, its a big Problem,
with runing, all the Win CE / WIMO
Software, and on a lot of Threads i
read, that the Bugs almost not
solved from one to another Firmware
they always only put
only new Options in
and didnt Solve the Bugs
USB Host OTG i am not sure that is implemtet,
and TV Out, also too not implementet yet.
will wait and give Meizu
a Chance to come with a good Concept !
Stable and Bugfree Sortware and OS
greetings
sad_but_true
Has anyone been able to put mobile 6 on the 680?
No sir. I don't think anyone has taken the time to identify the exact hardware in it to see if a working WM6 ROM can be cooked up. I believe the CPU is either a TI OMAP or Intel, so that's probably not a err problem. Most likely the first problem will be whether there is a WM device driver for the graphics processor, and it might be near impossible to get a bootloader on it that would start WM.
I wish Palm would get on with getting that 320x320 screen into a WM device.. Although I'm sorta over what sold me on the 750 - the keyboard. If HTC comes out with a Hermes-like device with VGA and HSDPA or HSUPA I'm so in.
Once in awhile I crank up my 4 year old HP hx4700 just to remind myself of the beauty of a VGA device. Of course that thing has a monster 4 inch screen and sucks battery..
OK wow....sorry to hijack your question and turn this into mostly random musings and so forth and so on. lol
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Has anyone been able to put mobile 6 on the 680?
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thanks for answering my grandma was jealous all the cool stuff i have on my 750
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Interesting stuff, what I like the most is that it says "Most likely" WM7 can be used on older devices because all the changes like screen rotation with device will use the cam instead of hardware like accelerometers and stuff... wonder how long till my wizard is sporting WM7...
they gonna turn ppc's into sm/iphone/touch ****?
WM7 can be used on older devices
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...taking 40 of 47 mb mem free.....
does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?
WM7 on an 2-year old wizard?
Realistically, the chances of WM7 running on a standard Wizard are somewhere between slim and none. I can offer two strong reasons: memory and speed. As someone noted earlier there are only 49 MB of program memory. Right now mine has only 19 free. If Microsoft follows its normal OS expansion rate, 49 MB won't be nearly enough.
As for speed - we,, we all know how fast the Wizards's chip is and - even with overclocking - it's slow. And in a year it will seem slower still.
So.. unless someone is going to begin to sell an aftermarket Wizard chipset on a higher capacity and faster piece of silicon - which I find unlikely and uneconomical -WM7 just isn't in the cards for old Wizards.
Having said that, I would love to be wrong.
You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
Well too bad couldn't have said the same for my MPX300 it was stuck with WM2003se............ but WM6 seem a bit cool tho.............
You have the MPX300?? Interested in selling?
it's not 100% tho ............ water got on the screen so i can't get past the screen alignment when i reset the phone
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You never really know though. I think there is a good chance that the wonderful cooks here will work a miracle and get wm7 on our Wizards. Look at the MPx200, for example: It's had every version of windows mobile/smartphone ever since SP2002 when it came out.
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True, pity mine sucks as it has a habit of spontaneously discharging the battery so I can't turn it on, thus I switched to the Wizard and now my iPhone.
EDIT: Looking at that Windows Mobile 7 article, I'm severely tempted back to Windows Mobile if that takes off!
I don't think wizard can handle wm7 (full OS) but i'm sure rom chef's will find tha way to adapt some programs that will be used with it... maybe some hacking will allow software to be run in an acceptable level... not the OS but the feeling of it...
I heard that wm7 will be released on 2009. Is it true? I hope they will release it in this year.
b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have WM 6.1 WWE yet?
now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
i bet they release this year cause of the iphone even though its overated people are buying it instead of windows mobile phones. Looks like it will be out next september i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise. The HTC touch should get an update to WM7 as the touchflo isnt that great tbh.
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now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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watting 4 your upload.
many thanks in advance!
" i reckon as from the pictures it looks pretty much finished interface wise."
sadly at times picturs dont say 1000 words
by that logic the game dukenukeem forever would
had been released 10years agoe
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now i'm built sucselt wm6.1 wwe! it's changer *.mui RUS lang to WWE!
testing!!!!
up soon
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waiting also
I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
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I can't wait ... it will be great... and btw. i think Wizard will be one of the devices on which microsoft will be testing... it's only my opinion, but it is old and it is popular.. same as MPx200 was (i had it before) and guess what? Microsoft tested WM5 on MPx200? Why? Because it was old and popular
But no flame war pleeeeeze
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Me too. when ms had wizard on microsoft surface trailers, they should test wm7 on it
b4 WM7 is out, does any1 have real WM 6.1 WWE yet?