Everywhere I go, I see the following message:
"... links removed due to legal complaint from Microsoft. ..."
They finally got P.Oed enough by the success of this forum and by the fact that you guys are doing everything they can't or won't.
Well, it's a sad day for us all :-(
In the hopes that this forum keeps on doing what it's doing, I say this.
Well done guys! keep on the good work !
And thank you for hearing my rants
I'm not sure why at all it would be considered the end of XDA-developers. Microsoft will still release wm6.5 no doubt so It is just matter of time until WM6.5 is released and then cooking on wm6.5 will start again. Just right now the movie is on pause
And WM 6.1 can continue to be tweaked to our heart's desire.
oh and I also happen to have b16b's WM6.5 if you want that....
I am sure it's a very credibly crafted hoax.
Of course Admins don't want any trouble or harrasement from anyone (certainly such mighty legal giants like Msoft) so they did what all of you would do - take a precautionary measures
Let'em sort it out.
Its just a temporary disturbance in the force far from end of xda LOL
And now I have utopykzebulon's v6 WM6.5 josh's WM6.5 also
"Is this the end of xda-developers?"
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...no.
Not even close.
Same thing happened when wm6.1 was leaked.
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dhob187 said:
Everywhere I go, I see the following message:
"... links removed due to legal complaint from Microsoft. ..."
They finally got P.Oed enough by the success of this forum and by the fact that you guys are doing everything they can't or won't.
Well, it's a sad day for us all :-(
In the hopes that this forum keeps on doing what it's doing, I say this.
Well done guys! keep on the good work !
And thank you for hearing my rants
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Just a hoax...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492791
This thread has been up for a couple of days now...
op, it's not even close to the end! xda will continue on rocking!!
Same thing happened when pre-released WM5.0 builds leaked on XDA-Dev a long time ago. The website lost all it's FTP files to Microsoft back then because of that and yet here it is, still up and running smoothly.
I have strong doubts that xda-dev will go down. Besides, it's not in the best of HTC or Microsoft's interests that they do so. A strong community like the one on xda-dev brings lots of advantages to them. For starters, there's the publicity that they're getting out of this, then there's the strong client base for their devices and OS for which one of the major reasons of purchase is Windows Mobile modability and the advantages this website brings in high-level customization of their own device. Which is what most users like to do: to get the most out of their hard-earned money. And last, but by no means least, there's also the potential feedback on their applications and OS that they can get from xda-dev which might help for future improvements. As for the leaks, i'm sure they really have nothing serious against them, as such leaks keep interest in devices alive. Of course, there are limits to this, as the boys need to keep their pre-release material safe and also incite interest in newer devices, but still... Backwards support is always good for PR.
I can remember when WM5 was in Beta, I added the fix to the Typhoon (orange c500 rom) shortly before it was taken off the FTP... my name is still on the "where has WM5 gone" text file on the root of the ftp those were the days eh?
think of it as a temporary set back... technically roms are no longer hosted on XDA anyways.
Hah, no way is it the end, the links should be back up soon after the admins fix this hoax stuff up. Seriously, the guy who sent the fraudulent emails is such an idiot!
rosebud said:
I can remember when WM5 was in Beta, I added the fix to the Typhoon (orange c500 rom) shortly before it was taken off the FTP... my name is still on the "where has WM5 gone" text file on the root of the ftp those were the days eh?
think of it as a temporary set back... technically roms are no longer hosted on XDA anyways.
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No, they're not. Again, since that little FTP incident. Those were the days...
dhob187 said:
Everywhere I go, I see the following message:
"... links removed due to legal complaint from Microsoft. ..."
They finally got P.Oed enough by the success of this forum and by the fact that you guys are doing everything they can't or won't.
Well, it's a sad day for us all :-(
In the hopes that this forum keeps on doing what it's doing, I say this.
Well done guys! keep on the good work !
And thank you for hearing my rants
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The end is on year 2012 my friend, LOL
And as somebody earlier mentioned this is a very strong WM community, here you can find som stats about xda-developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491608
Cheers
P.S. Be Positive
Might not be such a bad thing anyway
Even if there was an end in sight for xda-dev, another forum would spring up elsewhere to take its place. And that might not be such a bad thing...
xda-dev is one of the most hostile, unfriendly forums I frequent. Incredibly useful, with infinitely valuable resources, but senior members are often arrogant and intentionally unhelpful, and mods are heavy-handed, closing down threads unnecessarily at the drop of a hat.
Microsoft and HTC in good terms with xda?
There has recently been much anxiety in the Windows Mobile ROM cooking world over at XDA-Developers after the web site started receiving take down notices from some-one purporting to be from Microsoft. The practice of making updated firmware for older devices have always been borderline illegal, and the similar practice on the desktop (e.g placing a pirated copy of Windows Vista on a XP machine) would never have been tolerated.
It later turned out the take down notices were rather dubious in origin, and did not really conform to the format used by Microsoft. Tweakers.net, a Dutch web site, decided to take the bull by the horns and ask Microsoft and HTC directly what they thought of the situation.
Maarten Sonneveld, from Microsoft Netherlands was very clear. "What is happening there, adjusting ROMs is illegal. They go to get the intellectual property of others." He however, Pilate-like, absolved Microsoft from any responsibility to address the crime. "This intellectual property is not with us. The ROMs are owned by manufacturers or providers, if the branded versions. We supply only the OS."
That leaves the ball in HTC’s court. HTC however had no plans to squash one of the biggest selling points of their phones. "What happens there should not", says HTC Benelux director Mark Moons. "But XDA-Developers is the largest and most active community of Windows Mobile developers. We can not live with ‘em and we can not live without’ em."
The outcome of these statements is therefore than an uneasy truce exists, leaving XDA-Developers to continue their exploits in peace, but always with a gun pointed at their head if either Microsoft or HTC changes their minds. If this were to happen however it is likely that both would see a dramatic loss of market share, as many regulars who only buy HTC Smartphones, abandon the platform in droves.
We hope therefore, as is the case now, that cooler minds continue to prevail.
VIA: wmpoweruser.com
Since Microsoft obviously don't understand this site purpose then we should do something that they do understand, namely dollars.
By that I mean. Microsoft shares currently trades at 30 USD/share. We are currently 2000 members of XDA. If we contribuate 1.5 USD each. We could buy 100 Microsoft stock, and continue to this over a couple of months. Then there after send someone representing XDA to the stockholders conference, and give MS some bad publicity. And thusly I am more than sure that MS would get of XDAs back.
What do you guys say to that?
/Fred
Euroman28 said:
Since Microsoft obviously don't understand this site purpose then we should do something that they do understand, namely dollars.
By that I mean. Microsoft shares currently trades at 30 USD/share. We are currently 2000 members of XDA. If we contribuate 1.5 USD each. We could buy 100 Microsoft stock, and continue to this over a couple of months. Then there after send someone representing XDA to the stockholders conference, and give MS some bad publicity. And thusly I am more than sure that MS would get of XDAs back.
What do you guys say to that?
/Fred
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Regarding "Microsoft is on our back";
- They only requested us to remove a leaked and UNPUBLISHED build of WM 6.5. They didn't request us to remove all links to ROMs etc, but onlu to the build that hadn't been released yet..
Regarding the members:
Members: 1,924,422, Active Members (those who have posted last month): 259,365
You probably looked at the number of members currently on-line..
IMHO no need to protest against Microsoft, they leave us be as long as we don't release material that they themselves haven't released yet.
For the rest: they leave us messing around with the ROMs.
From my standpoint we have a real decent relationship with Microsoft, and as long as they condone us, we have nothing to complain.
So if they want us to pull a unreleased build once in a while, so be it.
(a higher build-number doesn't imply it is better )
Regards,
EqX
Okay,
But anyway if it ever goes completely sour, then ...... You know my stand on things.
It is a matter of mutual toleration. we tolerate the fact that the OS could be substantially better and spend our money on it anyway. And they tolerate the fact that we make it better, or at least customize it to our individual liking. Here is Microsoft's official view on XDA,
“Taking action against sites such as XDA-Developers isn’t a matter of concern for Microsoft” says Maarten Sonneveld of Microsoft Netherlands against tweakers.net. “What happens there, the modifying of ROMs, is illegal. The intellectual property however is not with us. The ROMs are intellectual property of the producers of the phone or the mobile phone providers if it concerns branded telephones. We simple only deliver the OS.”
And here is HTC's official stance on XDA
“What happens there isn’t allowed” says HTC Benelux-CEO Mark Moons,
“But XDA-Developers is the biggest and most active community of Windows Mobile-developers. We can’t live with ‘em and we can’t live without ‘em.”
Hey, I have created an article on XDA Developing and links to the forum to try to bring some more members to this site and to help out. I tried to post as much information as I possibly could to the article. Maybe you can tell me what you think?
Here is the article:
Techburrow said:
XDA (Xtended Design Architecture) Developing is great to learn if you have a windows mobile device. Reason being is because Windows Mobile is new and still growing, so there is not much you can do with your phone, in this case I have the HTC HD2 which is a great phone with a lot of potential, but you are limited to what you can do on it, this comes in when trying to find apps, as Windows Mobile is very limited on apps and most cost a lot of money. Now you may think a couple of bucks for an app, but no, the most expensive Windows Mobile app I have found in the marketplace was 69.99 for a image organizer/tool. It didn’t do anything magnificent and to me, definitely not worth the money. So I looked around into trying to do more with my Windows Mobile device and found out about XDA Developing.
I visited the Windows Mobile website and came to find that they offer free tools to start creating your own apps for your Windows Mobile phone, even though the tools were free, there is a cost if you want to make money from your app by putting it in the market. So you can create apps for your own liking and use, but if you wanted to put it in the maketplace for others to buy/download there was a one time fee of $99 dollars. Now I thought it was reasonable as long as you get the free tools. So I downloaded the tools and got everything running, but there was a lot to learn. The Windows Mobile website gave some dummy codes for developing but did not have any guides on how to learn how to start building. I was then searching and searching until I found a great website known as “xda-developers.com” which is a website with great forums and discussion on Windows Mobile devices, they also do some discussion on “Andriod” OS as well. There forum is a great place to inhance on what you can do on your phone. As for me I used the forum to find out how to develop my own apps, find apps others have made, they also have custom ROMS and RADIO (cooked) which is sort of like a “Jailbreak” and there are many ways, with a lot of help and support along the way. Thanks to this website I have brought my phone to its full potential and I am very happy with it.
I have fixed a lot of problems I have had with my device as well, such as “freezing, bricking, OS fails, and much more” which got me to thinking my phone would have to be returned. I think that Windows Mobile should have some of the XDA-Developers code a new version of HTC Sense & Windows Mobile, just to make it more stable and bring more customer satisfaction. If you have any problems with your Windows or Android device I would highly recommend using the sites I have listed above. Even if you are just looking to get more out of your phone.
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"developing"?
Hi All,
I just got my first android device (nook color from B&H) and to be honest am a little surprised at the kind of apps that are available (and the distribution method).
Call me naive but I kinda thought there would be a lot more software proudly displaying the GPL or something on it's homepage with the community that tends to come along with that. Instead it seems to be thousands of one / two man shops desperately trying to scrape some money out of a pretty simple application that doesn't really have much in the way of innovation (blanket statement, I know). Reminds me of the 90's windows software shops.
I would like to start my own site where only apps that meat the OSI specification of "open source" can be distributed. A community site with wiki, code hosting, version control and forums etc. Is this a really **** idea or could it work out?
/mr
I recently posted a thread on how I can start programming geared towards the mobile platforms.
I would like to develop apps for more than one mobile platform. However I just have access to an Android device (SE Xperia X10), iPhone 4, and an iPad 2.
Smartphones are not like candies, that you can go pickup at a cheap store.
I mean how and where can I and other people who want to develop apps for specific platforms get free phones for testing and using the apps we develop?
The emulator that is included with the SDKs are not always the best way to test.
Any suggestions? All help is appreciated
EDIT: Forgot to mention that recently Windows Phone called over WebOS developers to develop applications on the WP platform, and Windows gave the developers free devices. But there are not many WebOS devs out there..
The best and fastest way to require a "demo" phone is doing the following.
Just get in touch with the companies that are creating the phones.
Explain your development and give them a nice overview on what your app is, what it does and how things go.
Make sure you don't demand a phone but wish to test run it on certain specific devices with key features that are a "+" in your app.
I think you'll have a chance to receive a demo phone.
Btw don't expect you'll be able to keep that phone forever.
I recently contacted HP to request an Elite-book from them for business usage.
Explained the plans and deals and after a few days i received one.
I need to return it by end of this year.(aawww )
Did same thing for some phones for my company
I think it depends on what you wanna test and how high your requirements are.
Also i think it's best to mail on behalf of someone working in the industry or on behalf of a company.
They had my company info in case of argument.
Sites like XDA got enough rep to request them and be trusted.
Individual guy asking for a phone is "50/50" chance. (depends on the person processing your mail and your info & app your working on)
One thread is enough: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1237030