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Hi all
I'm currently using WkTask and already know AltTab app, and i want to know if this is a normal issue of these two softwares:
when you are in any app, with others opened, (with assigned button) you can switch to any other without problem, and until now it's ok; but when i'm in the today screen, with all the apps minimized and try to switch/show (using the assigned button) the opened apps, i cannot, and it opens the win start menu!
Is this normal or not? I've this problem with WkTask and AltTab too!
Is there any way to open and choose the minimized apps using the button?
thanks in advance!
PS: I already tried to serarch related posts, and also to ask in concerning threads but i had no answer!
Ciao
No one can answer me??! pls
I use wktask.
I created a shortcut called "AltTab" which calles
"wktastkcmd.exe" /f
I assigned a button to this shortcut. It will allways swich you to the next task. When all task are minimized (you are on home screen) it will open the first one.
Hope that helps.
JueLue
JueLue said:
I use wktask.
I created a shortcut called "AltTab" which calles
"wktastkcmd.exe" /f
I assigned a button to this shortcut. It will allways swich you to the next task. When all task are minimized (you are on home screen) it will open the first one.
Hope that helps.
JueLue
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Hi dude,
thx for your tweak!!
I tried it and works, as you said! Than i realized a strange issue:
it also works, without any changes in the schortcut, but assigning to it different buttons, and exactly:
-> directly works with "OK" and "Win Menu" buttons, normal or long press
-> doesn't work with "IE" and "Mail" buttons, normal or long press
I don't know why, but these buttons have different effect on softwares!!
However, i added it to "OK" long press button and it select the minimized app in the upper bar showing me also the name just below the selectoion and by the arrows i can switch to the others one still minimized!
Thnaks for your contribution!
Ciao
Im slowly going mad with Raphael, HTC didnt make this easy for me.
I only want simple things. Like, one hw-button on top panel of device, that really closes program. I mean REALLY, and EVERY TIME. Not casually, or just leave it hanging there on the background.
But no, this is a luxury I cant have. I always have to try to hit my big thumb into little X at right upper corner.
Lets have an example. Fire up File Explorer. Ok Im done with it and want to close program (by pressing nice and big hw-key, not aiming for small X). Options:
1. I press Home-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
2. I press Back-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
3. I press Endcall-button. I'm back at home screen and File Explorer running on background.
...Seriously, WTF??? Why do we have THREE hw-buttons in top panel of Raphael, that do exactly the same thing? And as far as I have observerd, there is no really good solutions yet for remapping these hw-keys.
All I want is:
1. Button that takes me back to Home-screen (obviously Home-button)
2. Button that changes from program to another (alt+tab, I could use Back-button for this)
3. Button that really closes program (obvious choise would be Endcall-button).
Goddommit.
The Back button is really the OK button from previous devices like the Hermes. I agree the Home button is probably useless, but I suppose it's a fast way to get to the Home screen when you're in a call, since pressing Hangup while you're in a call will... hangup the current call.
With all the RAM in the device, is there any reason to really close any apps?
AEBPlus can handle all of them,but the Back button not. Unfortunately the Home button can be handled,but after hitting it,it jumps to Todayscreen and makes the command defined in AEBPlus,so it is unusable. I want to use those 2 buttons for something different as well as some of the keys on keyboard(SMS to OK/Close). As I don't understant 3 buttons for same functions,I don't understand,why we have 2 hw-keys for entering the messaging on the keyboard.
Taajuus said:
All I want is:
1. Button that takes me back to Home-screen (obviously Home-button)
2. Button that changes from program to another (alt+tab, I could use Back-button for this)
3. Button that really closes program (obvious choise would be Endcall-button).
Goddommit.
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Now that would be perfect in my eyes
Good Evening
I downloaded a PTT fix from http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1054343-1.html & installed the .cab file. It created a button 5 option in my settings/buttons menu. However, when I set that option for camera instead of PTT...it still initializes the PTT vs the camera. I'm going to assume that the PTT is not button 5 on the fuze, hence why it won't work. Does anyone know which button that it might be, and how i could edit that file? or make my own work around?
Thanks
The PTT might be hard wired to the PTT hardware needed for ATT's push to talk, kinda silly really I don't see why they still push this I've yet to meet anyone on ATT who uses this feature, maybe one day ill run into a cunstruction worker who knows.
TazMan1688 said:
Good Evening
I downloaded a PTT fix from http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1054343-1.html & installed the .cab file. It created a button 5 option in my settings/buttons menu. However, when I set that option for camera instead of PTT...it still initializes the PTT vs the camera. I'm going to assume that the PTT is not button 5 on the fuze, hence why it won't work. Does anyone know which button that it might be, and how i could edit that file? or make my own work around?
Thanks
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I'd love to see a solution to this too. I tried the Tilt registry hacks that let you re-map the PTT button but all that did was disable the button completely. (Which is still an improvement because at least now I don't have the PTT message come up every time I accidentally hit that button...)
Black93300ZX said:
CONFIRMED, this is how to keep that annoying PTT message from coming up on American Touch Pro's (Fuze maybe? whatever).
Keep in mind, you can't individually map this button with this method, that may come later.
Step 1: Registry editor, remove HKLM/Services/PTT
Step 2: Create a key in HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Keys called "40C2"
Step 3: Create a string within that key, titled Name with the value being "Button 6" or whatever
Step 4: Soft reset.
From this point on you can remove 40C2, but your PTT button will simply perform with a press what your send button performs with a hold (which can be remapped easily... Settings/Buttons/Button1(Hold)).
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10 chars..
I were to remove that string after i install the .cab, would that disable PTT,and the settings menu take over?
I realize I can do a registry hack, but I was looking for something that A) would be easy to install/uninstall B) would add an easily accessible option to the settings on the phone.
TazMan1688 said:
I were to remove that string after i install the .cab, would that disable PTT,and the settings menu take over?
I realize I can do a registry hack, but I was looking for something that A) would be easy to install/uninstall B) would add an easily accessible option to the settings on the phone.
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Um that is the easiest way right now.
And it does as B). Just change what Button 1 (Hold) to whatever you want and that's what your PTT button will act as.
Alright, its Button 1...awesome. Now lets see if I can find that setting ;-)
In settings/personal/buttons
...there is only an option for button 5, and button 5(hold). 1-4 do not show up there. How would I go about editing button 1's action?
Thanks alot
I found a program called AE BUTTON PLUS, it allows you to map any hardware button on the device. The PTT button is not listed by default so you need to "add button" it will then ask you to press the hardware button you would like to map, after that it shows up on the list and you can map it... I have found that adjusting long press setting causes issues, but tap and double tap work fine. I have tap disabled since I always hit the key by accident, double tap is Torch. Working fine so far. I believe you can even map individual keys on the keyboard in the same way.
I tried to use AE Button Plus(registered it), and had no luck creating an action for the PTT button. So I followed the registry ediit intructions, again..with no avail.
My PTT is disabled, which as previously stated, is better than nothing.
I would like to clarify two things. Does 40C6, and 40C7 relate to PTT on all devices, or is this a phone by phone basis? 40C6 could be PTT on a tilt, but the touch may be 33D4. Noobish question, but I'm not sure how this stuff works.
Also you said its "Button 1". Again, does this refer to hardware button # 1. Or is this just a random name we give it so we know which one to edit in the buttons menu?
So if I use 40c6, and 40c7 for "Button 1", and "Button 1(hold)"...it should work?
...I also used Button 6 & Button 6 hold as in the Tilt instructions. Same function.
I appreciate the assistance gang!
any1 have any luck?
If you want to remap the PTT button using a cab file (instead of manually doing reg tweaks) just look here: http://www.fuzemobility.com/ptt-remapping-revisited-application/
pretty simple but read the 'update' at the end
Hi. Suppose I just want to remap the long end key press button to something other than the HTC dafault. Do I need AEBPlus for that? I assume that would be a overkill for remapping just one button. The HTC interal app only allows to either display the quick list or make 4 other actions. I was wondering if I can change that to something else without using the AEBPlus app. I just wanted to run the comm manager rather than the htc options
Thanks
Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..
craigwillie said:
Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..
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Actually I don't need it working with the TouchFlo, as I don't use TF. I only want to remap the long end press button to the comm manager. Of course it would have been great to also map a long press on the Home button or the Back button but I think I read that's not possible even without TouchFlo ?
what no one answered ? wow i thought that's easy,a metter of registry or link change. quite disappointing.
I am also looking for a way to change the back button to run some other program...
How to assign a shortcut to EndKey, SendKey ....
Not tried myself on TP, but maybe it's useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322
Create a shortcut in your windows directory called long_end.lnk
whatever the shortcut points to will run when you long press the end key.
There are a few of these hard press shortcuts
long_end.lnk
long_send.lnk
long_power.lnk
long_ptt.lnk
short_power.lnk
short_ptt.lnk
I can remap all the buttons except the Long End. Somehow the Long End button is mapped to the phone Lock. Where can I disable that and allow for my own?
Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software
I cooked my own rom and I didn't put in long press end key. I assumed it wouldn't have installed any reg settings for it, guess I'll have to check. Thanks!
For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.
baub said:
For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.
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Yeah, I recooked the Long End Key Press in, but there isn't a custom selection part of it so that must be a different version of End Key software. It's ok not too important.
AEB
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.
Using my HTC Touch Pro. I am still unablet to map the Long press End Key to something other than the limited options that the HTC Long Press End Key program settings offer.
I simply wish to map the long press end key to run a different program. I tried the suggestion offered on this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616) but it doesn't work. I put a file called Long_End.lnk in the windows directory, soft reset the device and still it doesn't map to that. Only displays the HTC 'quick list'.
I am not running TF3D.
Anyhelp ? To map to any program I choose ?
Thanks
So no buddy managed to map the End button long press to some other program than the options that the HTC's prg in the settings allow ?
I want to remap the End key to open Phone Weaver Profiles which is much more useful than what the HTC Long End Pressapp offers.
nik3r said:
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.
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That's not the full story ....
on ex: HTC HD
there are buttons:
"Green Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
"Home Key" -> nothing possible !!!
"Back Key" -> not really mapable (mapping possible, but always send to wanted mapping ~backspace and jump back to Homescreen and then the mapped button will execute - little bit strange ..)
Longpress also doesn't work
"Red Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
tried with aebutton also (last version)
some additional ideas ?
cu camel
Proto732 said:
Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software
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HI!
I'm another one that tried everything to remap the long end key without that HTC app and no solutions.
What we really need is to know how to disable that app from the system.
Anyone help us!
Hi,
i look for it for a long time and i can't find it :
how to attribute a function to a button ?
In settings, there is no buttons available though there is 5 hardware buttons !!!
For exemple, i'd like to attribute task manager or task facade to the long press home button, is it possible ?
thanks
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nobody is interested in attributing hardware buttons ?
Yes I am interesting too
I used aebutton plus to assign MS Voice Command to long press windows button. That worked fine, although I haven't used it on any other buttons.
Well, the hardware buttons already have set functions. So assigning things to them would be a little bit complex within the settings. That's why they aren't there.
I imagine you would need to use a third party application, and even then you could only assign long presses to the keys.
Long press would be nice though
Pantaloonie, does everything run fine with aebutton and HD2?
Yes, it does what I want it to do, although as I said I only added long press windows key.
It was a little bit fiddly with aebp's small menus on the capacitive screen, but I got there after several attempts.
Now when I start the aebp program, I get an error message reading "Once you set AEBPlus to process Windows button you may also need to re-define following buttons also:"Button 1(Hold)", "OK Key"."
I haven't done as it says, and everything works perfectly.
Cool, thanks I might give it a spin then
Here's a guy who's tried AE Button Plus with HD2 pretty thoroughly it seems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603186
I just installed it and mapped the windows hard button with long press to task facade. It worked just fine, but it seems the button lost the original function which is to access the start menu on single tap. I dont mind it so much though, I might as well use the the soft start button in the upper left corner. The important thing is that multi tasking now works without having to go through the today screen.