I've heard recently that my Palm Treo 750 has ATi Imageon graphic chip with the possibilities of converting every program from 320x240 into 240x240 resolution.
After first couple of programs and games everything was looking just like that.
But yesterday i have installed some games and 1/4 of game does not appear on Palm's screen?
beside that, my status line turned black and some lines appeared (must reset).
do you know anything about this>>
AFAIK the program should be written to be able to work with other resolutions. I.E. it works in 240 x 240, 240 x 320 and 480 x 640.
Hi there,
I was watching yesterday a divx movie (320 X 240) using Coreplayer on my new IPAQ 614c.
1) I was surprised to see kind of stripes (evidenced in the black background (top right panel), see attached file). I have to say that I do not have this pattern on other devices (tested on a Dell and Eten PPC) using the same software and movie.
2) Changing the color profile (to native) helped. So is it the reason for this difference observed an other devices.
3) This does not happen for all movies. As such, some other movies (also in 640X480) just run very nicely. Therefore, I believe this has nothing to do with the hardware.
Do U also experience this?
Any feedback appreciated
Nobody?
Thanks
never heard about or seen the issue but then i dont watch movies really on my device
but in TCPMP the free version of coreplayer one can choose different drivers for play back i if i were you would try and see if changing the driver in coreplayer had any effect
I watched wanted on my Athena (VGA) on a plane last week and it was fine, no jaggediness, or black lines, and that is a pretty dark film too.
Rory
I've watched a few TV episodes and some Bourne, really good quality though. Only thing I'm trying to work out is the A/V offset.
Thanks for the answers...
I will try to play with the drivers.
Anyway, I was looking at the same episode in 640X480 and had no black line at all...
So strange
Looks like it is better choosing IntelXScale as a driver...
Also the benckmarks are better with these drivers...
Will put later this afternoon the different benchmarks.
Thanks again
Discussion over
I do not know why but I did not have IntelXscale selected (I think I was playing a bit too much with the options).
Anyway, the problem is solved now using this driver.
Also, a benchmark with the well-known Matrix trailer (640X352, Bitrate: 127 kb/s) gives nice results:
DirectDraw: 94.93%
IntelXscale: 216.58%
GDI: 106.57%
i just got the new coreplayer and it only shows the tytn2 driver..
is this better or is there somewere i could get this interxscale driver?
just playd a video that comes allong with the xperia, as a video sample
benchmark results were
Average speed 62,50%
Original data rate = 922 kbit/s
Bench. data rate = 576 kbit/s
maybe the IntelXscale dont show up because you dont have an intel xscale cpu
but an qualcomm ?
I have constructed some video tests and the preliminary data I am getting back is that the Touch Pro is not great when it comes to video playback. Not at the moment anyway. Though my tests were done with the latest Coreplayer I would extrapolate that the results are indicative of the overall video performance irrespective of the player used.
File 1: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 320x160 287 kbps
File 2: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 640x320 479 kbps
File 3: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 320x160 200 kbps
File 4: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 640x320 400 kbps
All audio is AAC 24 KHz 64 kbps.
Device: HTC Raphael
CPU&Clock: Qualcomm MSM7201A 528MHz
GPU: N/A (integrated ARM926EJ-S [email protected])
ROM: WM6.1 FireROM v0.3
File 1: 205.40%
File 2: 126.52%
File 3: 159.63%
File 4: 68.29%
Device: HTC Hermes
CPU&Clock: Samsung SC32442A ARM 400MHz
GPU: ATI Imageon 2282
ROM: WM6.1 PDACornerPro v25 RBSN
File 1: 387%
File 2: 140%
File 3: 114%
File 4: 34%
I don't know how much the video performance can be improved with newer ROMS or optimised software but I think it will take a while before any drastic improvements are seen, if ever. I have the video files available for those would like to test this for themselves and can PM the links. They short clips might be considered copyrighted so I will not post them.
Hmm
I have some DVD rips which were encoded for use on the Sony PSP, with the following attributes:
Format: MPEG4
Video: AVC aka H.264
Video Size: 480 x 272
Frame Rate: 29.970
Audio: MPEG4 AAC Audio
Audio Format: 96000Hz 2 Ch
I figured it'd be useful to be able to play those rips on my TP, so I tried it using Coreplayer v1.2.5.
There was no sound - I cannot fix this and have raised a ticket with Coreplayer support.
Nevertheless, the benchmark gave an average speed of 101.90% so that's not too bad.
Has anyone else tried these types of files on their TP using Coreplayer? Have you managed to get any sound?
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
As I've posted in the topic with touch pro issues:
poor directdraw, framebuffer/video performance.
Just to make an idea: an old device from 2005 with omap 850 200mhz CPU performs better in this area than the touch pro @ qualcomm 528mhz. what a shame. The test were done in this topic (in romanian, sorry). CorePlayer was used for benchmark. I will summarize.
- HTC Tornado overclocked (262Mhz) max performance: 174.22%
- Touch Pro max performance: 172,67%
Both in Raw framebuffer mode. When used QTV it gains only 162,64%. How come?
It's pitty, 262Mhz from OMAP performs better than 528!!!Mhz from Qualcomm?!
The video used for tests is this one. (320x240 @ 25FPS)
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Of course, this may be fixed with software optimization.. But it's kinda annoying that the existing 3rd-party doesn't work so well..
I saw in a romanian review that touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
peterbonge said:
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
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All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
DSF said:
touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
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This is concerning. I want a device where I don't have to worry about converting video any more.
Wam7 said:
All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
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With WMP the first two are running fine, the last two have just sound without a picture. The codec (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC) is not the problem because I have many vids with this codec running fine.
I don't have the time to test the files with the CorePlayer at the moment, but here are the specs of a file which runs choppy with the CorePlayer, but fine with the WMP:
Video: avc1 / H.264/MPEG-4 AVC / 480 x 360 / 509 kbps / 29.971 fps
Audio: mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC / 44100Hz 123 kbps, stereo
The problem of the current releases of coreplayer is that the QTV driver provided is not the one for the MSM7201A processor; it's the one of the TyTnII (MSM7200 If I'm not mistaken).
To fully exploit the "graphic accelerator" of our TPs I think we'll have to wait for an optimized version of coreplayer for our HTCs (coreplayer 1.3 as anounced in their website, as they say that a version optimized for Touchs will be released soon).
I've contacted HTC support about video performance.
Answer in short: "The Touch Pro is not made for playing Media. It was made as a business device."
TyTN was made as a business device and included ATI Imageon GPU.
Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
phrozact said:
Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
mike freegan said:
Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
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I havent tried this yet, but I will once I get back home tomorrow.. Would be awesome if that worked!
EDIT: Loading in a episode of Dexter (original release, DVDScr.XVID) on, and installing TCMP.. Il post results!
Loaded "Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU.avi" onto my memory card and played it in TCPMP and it worked more or less flawlessly!! No need to worry about playback performance! Although to get 100% perfect playback, it should be converted or something as the playback did suffer som slight stutters from time to time.
EDIT: The only thing this device suffers from in terms of video playback is 65k colors.
err that's weird look at the results posted at these sites:
http://img2.portavik.net/upload/file_23/37bd53de9a906fe4/table_bench.gif
and this one:
http://www.ferra.ru/online/communicators/80844/ (in the middle of a page SPB test
Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
MaRaHoX said:
Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
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When I tried to load up Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU with CorePlayer, I only got audio, no video... But TCPMP worked quite well..
yeah im searching for proper video settings to convert files to for my device using catalyst or pocketdivx encoder, still searching on that one.
but then i tried just throwing my original episode of entourage and yeah it looks awesome., will probably do that more often with the faster file transfer and once i get a bigger sd card.
The firmware drivers do need a bit of work and coreplayer 1.2.5 doesn't fully support the touch pro as the makers have made clear.
I would suggest waiting for coreplayer 1.3 and maybe a few newer ROMs before giving final judgement, though Qtv specs on the qualcom chips do say it maxes out at 640x480 15-30fps 384kbps if i remember right.
FYI: Qtv is a software codec specifically designed for maximum performance on the 7201a chipset used by the touch pro. This is what coreplayer does not fully support yet (unlike on the TyTN).
Also, regarding HTC's response, why don't you ask the same question again but about the Touch Diamond, as it's not a business device.
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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What 3D accelerator does the Pro/Diamond use? What chip?
can anybody tell me which program can I use to convert .avi files to .mp4 files in best resolution supported by hd2 ? As far as I know Mp4ForHd converts only files to touch hd resolution so as I asked before, which program can be used to convert to mp4 and in which resolution? And my second question - in upper right corner there should be a litle icon which allows me to disable running aplications - I don't have it, how can I turn it on ?
Well, the Touch HD and HD2 have the same screen resolutions (they are both WVGA) despite the size differences. I have used MP4forHD and find that the audio/vidio sync is out on the HD2. I tend to use Any Video Converter which is freeware and allows for much greater customisation to suit your needs, and have yet to find any sync issues. Be sure to keep the video bitrate <= 2000 as values above this start to effect the framerate/ playback smoothness. Also, it is best to keep the resolution at WVGA otherwise you will increase the chance of exceeding the 2GB file size limit. Anything file size above this the HTC Album program wont play (i'm assuming this is what you want to use?).
i use Super i think its the best freeware
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
Hi.
Try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050&highlight=converter
Its very easy and fast
MfG Uro
Version 2.9b:
- A new codec added "XVID avi". With this, you can now convert to avi files (not only mp4 files)
- Now video quality 'very high' is two times Normal Quality (before 1.5 times). It makes max quality is now 1600 kbps (before 999 kbps)
- Support for MOD video files (JVC cams)
- Added a new video size 768x576 (JVC cams)
- Added two new profiles: HD2 (for HTC HD2) and JVC (for JVC cams)
Ive installed version 2.9c and I cant see HD2 profile...
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Version 2.9b:
- A new codec added "XVID avi". With this, you can now convert to avi files (not only mp4 files)
- Now video quality 'very high' is two times Normal Quality (before 1.5 times). It makes max quality is now 1600 kbps (before 999 kbps)
- Support for MOD video files (JVC cams)
- Added a new video size 768x576 (JVC cams)
- Added two new profiles: HD2 (for HTC HD2) and JVC (for JVC cams)
Ive installed version 2.9c and I cant see HD2 profile...
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you need to download the 2.9c update and unzip to the instalation folder
ok, anyone knows answer to my second question?
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ok, anyone knows answer to my second question?
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I have Profile HD2 under Profile
MfG Uro
The video and sound.. they're not in sync when i used the mp4forhd.. any solution for that?
'And my second question - in upper right corner of my hd2 there should be a litle icon which allows me to disable running aplications - I don't have it, how can I turn it on ?'
sorry for second post but I cant input any file while editing existing post, so - i ment this:
m4rioo said:
sorry for second post but I cant input any file while editing existing post, so - i ment this:
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Try this cab , Its called Task manager , this is one is made by Dutty for HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=284213&stc=1&d=1266797843
Hi guys
im testing a new service from my provider, kinda ''live TV'' Service.
I figuret out to allow my phone a HD2 changing the browser ID to a android phone,
that are allowed from my provider.
Now the problem:
when im connectet via 3G/HSPA i get a ugly video quality (tried to disable provider Proxy, no difference)
with WLAN a excellent one
I saw in the properties:
Bitrate 567, Codec H.264 ACC, dimesion 400 x 224 with WLAN
Bitrate 31, MPEG-4 AMR-NB, 176 x 144, over HSPA
Is there a setting to force the higher settings? I didnt find it in the settings, and played
arounnd in the Reg. found only 1 setting that change something.
VideoShouldCIFSize, when i cange the value from 1 to 0, the pic gone smaller.
Its a setting or is the stream server that decide what a codec and size?
surely i can provide the rtsp link but coz the service gonna be launched in the next
few days i cant spread the Link here.
Thanks u Guys, i know somebody have a answer out there
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