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Rare problem with an upgrade

Hi,
I tried to upgrade my Qtek S200 with the newest ROM release from PdaMobiz (the 16M pooling page one), but encountered some problems...
It's a Portuguese TMN Qtek (or at least it displays the operator logo when started), although the software is in English.
IPL is 2.09 and SPL is 2.15...
However, after upgrading it, it kept displaying the Operator logo with IPL and SPL, and freezed, so it never worked. When I tried to revert it, I wasn't able to do it, because every time I try to install a different ROM (all of them for the G3 device) it just installs the new ROM, and then goes to that screen and freezes...
It never gave me any error during the upgrading/downgrading, because when it checks the version of the ROM, it displays no information, so it just says that is going to replace the inexistant version with the new one...
Is there a step a missed (I didn't put it in bootloader mode before doing the first upgrade, but I had already done that before with other ROMs and it worked fine...)?
Now I'm stuck without knowing if I should have done an unlock CID before upgrading it, or if there is another steped I missed... Please help me out...
Thanks in advance,
Nuno

Tried this?
Read this in one of the threads and it solved his problem:
Extract the rom file you are using to flash your phone, to a folder on your pc, than Extract the file i attached ("ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip") into this folder. than connect your phone to pc and double click on "ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.exe".
I personally have not tried it, but I downloaded the prog just in case, Hope it helps.

Now it gives me an error...
Hi,
Just tried what you advised, but now it jusk keeps giving me the error 208, which is supposed to happen because I have other programs open on my computer... Tried rebooting, closing most aplications with task manager, and still it doesn't work.
Also tried to downgrade to lower ROM upgrade, but it gives me the error that I can't downgrade, only upgrade...
When I upgrade it with AKU 2.3, it goes all the way through the upgrade, and then when it reboots, it just keeps giving me the operator logo screen with the version info on the display.
If I try to reboot to bootloader mode, I'm not able, the only way to do it is by removing the battery...
I'm probably still doing something I shouldn't... It should be able to work the downgrade utility...
Anyone can help?
Thanks,
Nuno

Try this rom:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID.zip
It shoud be ok.
If your prophet has spl end up with 2.xx.0001 check at
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Prophet/
find out the rom which can solve for SPL 2.xx.0001.
Good luck

Thanks Chan! Problem solved!
I was starting to review all my steps ir order to see what I could have done wrong...
Would you advise me to upgrade now to the PDAMobiz latest ROM (the one with the biggest pooling page)?
Thanks again.
Nuno

1. Unlock cid
Since your prophet spl is 2.15, you have to follow this step.
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=437
From file you can get from ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Prophet/
Your PC has to connect to network or internet (to have ip address), becuase in that script use ping command for delay 4 seconds.
It's just downgrade and unlock cid.
You may verify if cid unlocked, by backup rom to sd card. (use romupdate.exe with r2sd all command, check at wiki)
2. Upgrade to official rom
ftp://xda:[email protected]_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID.zip
3. Upgade to pdamobiz, I suggest you to upgrade 12 Mb pagepool version. (even 8 mb version is ok). Because 16 mb has smallest ram space.
Good luck

All solved!
Again,
Thank you very much for your help!
After some tries, upgrading, downgrading, upgrading again, etc, I finally got it, so now its running the PDAMobiz version, which by the way, seems great so far!
Next time I'll come to you directly and then try to make things on my own...
Thanks again!
Nuno Eça

After the HardSPL...

Ok after doing all that was told to do to flash a G4 (which I did sucessfully) It does now show the SPL to be 2.21.olip.
At the end of the instructions says:
"After it is complete, your device will automatically reboot. The IPL version will be 2.21.0001 and the SPL will be 2.21.olip. If you see this then HardSPL was successfully flashed to your device.
Now you have HardSPL. You can flash any ROM using the RUU provided in the ROM package, should you have trouble with upgrading, try Mun's RUU."
I flashed my G4 Wizard with the new Diamond "clean" version. I think I want more bells and whisles; Question is...Do I have to do everything all over again or can I just flash with a new rom to a better OS?
I did try to flash to the Hyperdragon 6.1 and the SNN Diamond but, I think the OS I just flashed is too new to reflash to the others (error 264). (maybe I just answered my own question) But the HardSPL IS in there.
Someone please tell me what you think.
Thanks you!
Kim

Depending on my own experience you don't need to do hard SPL all over again. all you need to do is to do a good hard reset and try to update with nice and slow steps
i had a G4 before my current G3 and i know wht i'm telling you
just care to review these steps
- 50% battery or more (100% recommended)
this is a must .. cant flash without this condition
- laptop or pc with ups (you dont want to brick ur device cause electricity was out!) or you can risk and update on power supply
- use faria RUUs (they are the best) they can be used with any rom.
- connect the wizard to the pc after the hard reset (dont forget to backup) and follow the on screen (wizard not pc) till u get working windows mobile device
- when asked for setting ur device .. click escape (as said ... this device is guest till it has the WM that i want!)
- finally try it's right rom it's G4 safe if you ask, you'll find its link in my signature, also i suggest using radio 2.19
- last hint .. never use a rom with IPL or SPL. they will brick ur device (it did to mine )
any more help?

What's up with G3 or G4???

Okay guys,
I don't understand... I have a Wizard and I've been busting my head getting all the info and programs + roms and apps to upgrade my wizard to TNT Vanilla (with WM6.1).
This is the story, my wizard is ipl/spl 2.26. I currently have TNT 19199 / WM6 with radio 2.19... Works great! But get this, it's a G3 wizard!!!
Now as I was going through the screenshot tutorial to upgrade the wizard and I saw when I ran the wizard service tool, my pda was G3... So what do I do now??? Is it possible to upgrade my phone to a G4? some people said it was impossible to get wm6 on my phone, but I have it along with the tnt 19199...
I don't know if I should go ahead with anything until I find a solution. Help me out here guys.
Phil

G3 is great, you can flash any rom. G4, you couldn't flash if there was a radio or spl included. G4 is not an upgrade of a G3 and in fact is more likely especially with older roms to brick your phone.

I have a g3. and have been flashing every rom there is. it is more of a hassel to deal with g4. consider your sell lucky.

G3 and G4 is difference of DoC chip, that is a hardware difference and not changeable through software.
G3 devices can be CID-unlocked to accept any ROMs by just using unmodified RUU package.
For G4 devices, CID unlock is not possible, however you can use HardSPL to let the device accept ROMs not for your CID, as soon as the ROM does not contain IPL and SPL.

Well,you already are on wm6 with TNT 19199,why can't you upgrade to wm 6.1,yes!you can.
G3 device is much easier to upgrade than G4,count yourself lucky there
Vanilla Rom is just a plain rom without any Applications/programs or very few of them,its basically provided for cookers who want to cook their own roms with applications/programs of their choice,but it can be flashed to any device.

YeaH, BUT...?
That's just it!
You're all telling me it's ok to flash and ok to set new roms on my G3...
What I do not understand is why in the "Wizard Upgrade Guide and Tools-DCH" it's written that this upgrade is only for G4 phones only! Furthermore, I do not want to brick my phone either!
Maybe it's for this type of upgrade only...? In this case can one of you guys give me a link to upgrade that works???
Once I get the ok from you guys, I'll try to upgrade the TNT 19213 Pro or moderate edition. Seems like Vanilla really has nothing else than the basics...
Phil
P.s.- By the way, I keep on reading about UC included in these roms... That's a good thing right? I wonder exactly how it works...

When once you have already upgraded to wm6 TNT 19199 custom rom,did you get any problems,did your phone got Bricked,whats the problem now ?
I don't understand what exactly you are asking ?
Which "Wizard Upgrade Guide and Tools-DCH" you are referring to,in which its written that this rom is for G4 devices only ? Just take my words,there's no such specific G4 rom only,all the custom build wm6 or wm6.1 roms are build for both the devices,G3 and G4,coz they do not have IPL/SPL included in them,only those roms which have G3 IPL/SPL included in them are dangerous for G4 phones,even all the official Stock roms have IPL/SPL in it for both the devices,it can be flashed to either of the versions without any danger, Yes! if any rom which only have G3 IPL/SPL flashed to a G4 phone will Brick it ,or a Rom with specific G4 IPL/SPL,if flashed to a G3 will Brick it also.But those are all old Roms,Now all the latest custom build Roms are build without any IPL/SPL in them,they all are absolutely confirmed safe for both the devices,ok

oh my friend, I am sorry about that, I wrote that particular guide, and the instructions in the guide itself is only for G4 devices, the ROM that I mention in the guide and in the screenshots is just for example, it CAN be flashed to a G3. My particular device is a G4, so I wrote that guide from a G4 perspective. Sorry for the confusion!

ashasaur
Yeah ! right,thats nice of you to clarify the confusion,but I'll suggest,if you have not already rectified your guide,its better you rectify and clarify it in there too,so to avoid any further confusion and also clearly warn that its for G4 devices.
Cphil1
You shud have read the guide correctly,if you had,there wudn't be this confusion,Thats why its been emphasized over and again through the Forum,to read n read the guides to fully understand and only than proceed further,its for your own benefit.
Have a nice day !

That was weird!!! No Upgrade!
Hey guys,
The craziest thing just happened... I went through all the steps, upgraded the pda. I saw the status bar and the rom completed it's upgrade!
Then my phone turns back on and it's my old TNT rom...? So no upgrade at all! What happened? Did I miss a step?

Cphil1 said:
Hey guys,
The craziest thing just happened... I went through all the steps, upgraded the pda. I saw the status bar and the rom completed it's upgrade!
Then my phone turns back on and it's my old TNT rom...? So no upgrade at all! What happened? Did I miss a step?
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sounds like your CID locked?
Try flashing the old button rom 1st then your carriers then the new rom. After which for new roms flash your carrier rom then any new rom. I find the amp 2.0 rom to be better then the tnt as in less buggy.

I bet you were using ShellTool when you upgrade to the old TNT ROM.
Now flash your original carrier ROM, then download IPL and SPL using button's ROM and perform full CID unlocking, then you can flash any ROM as you wish.
p.s. DON'T try to upgrade your IPL/SPL to 3.08 before full CID-unlocked!

Alright!
Okay guys,
I just got the update to work... It was simply that I ran the rom update setup from the tnt 19213 file.
The cut and paste indicated on the "Wizard Upgrade Guide and Tools-DCH" didn't work. Bottom line, I now have the new tnt Professional rom (No Touchflo!) on my phone with wm6.1! Now I'm very happy and very grateful
I also got pim backup to restore all my files and contacts. Great little tool! Now I have to start customizing it with all the nitty gritty...
I'm looking forward to some advice on stuff to add onto this rom. I'm more of a graphic and games fanatic, so I went along and downloaded the vanilla fun pack.
By the way, does anyone know how to add color to the clock and icons display on the home screen? It's a bit bland all in white...
Phil

Cant HardSPL and upgrade even with orig rom.

Hi
I Buy 3days ago I-mate JAMin.
IPL 1.00
SPL 1.00.000
Image Version 1.0.9.1141.00
So first thing i read all posts about
upgrading to WM 6..........First Step was HardSPL G3 In stuck in withe screen and thats all...................So still my IPL 1.00 SPL 1.00.0000
ActiveSync works correctly.................So always when JAMin resets and coes to bootloader then after 10 second coming error 302 message.Afer soft reset it work again.
So I read many many posts for dummys and not dummys and i made i think 20-30 soft-hardreset download many many different roms.
Finaly i download original rom from I-mate homepage JAMin_WWE_ 2130923_21309112_020720_ship.exe still same problem stucks in bootloader and error 302.So then i read mtty1.42.exe can help but i didnt find how use this program i get it connected but there need write shomething?
And i read this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353547 but PVtemp is not able download anymore.
So mabe somebody have idea.
In the moment i have installed Image Version 1.0.9.1141.00
And IPL 1.00 SPL 1.00.0000
What i did
1 Used 2 different computers
2 2 different cabels
3 Many different rom's
4 download original rom (also not work)
5 Many many times soft and hardreset
Used files
DiHardSPL G3rect_5_to_61_tool.zip
mtty1[1].42.zip (i dint find how use taht correctly)
JAMin_WWE_ 2130923_21309112_020720_ship.exe
Update_Package.zip
PDAMobiz_Prophet_WM6_V1[1].00_Step1.rar
etc
Sorry my bad english i hope you understand.
Regards Indrek

how to do
Safe proof plan do it like this.
1. First get the original Rom back and install it you can find the link on the forum.
2. Make a ROM update with the update Rom tool
3. Do hard SPL 3 or 4 usually its 3 after you syncronize with active sync.
4. Install the new Rom .
5. Wait for the device to start up.
Try the Mobiz Rom it worked in my case any questions feel free, bye.

the problem is i dont know how to do hard spl so can any one help me please am stuck and i have the same problem a white screen and nothing happins

Facts about version 2.03TX and bootloader

I have two magicians, and I read many posts about nonchangeable version 2.03TX.
I test it, and upgrade one unit. After upgrade really is not possible change any (OS or bootloader). Bootloader cant vrite itself or OS memory. I try all known techniques - SDboot, TTY (lnb, s2d d2s...) via USB, and standart os upgrade via PC (of cours, noID too).
So I have two magicians, then i use good tool from "itsme" called pmemdump.exe (thank you for your good job) and download OS images and bootloader images from my magicians. The reason is:
I dont say when, and/or why, but in some magiciansThe 2.03TX destroy bootloader!!
In my flashed magician is destroyed (nulled) area from 0x10000 to 0x10080.
I attach good (before upgrade) and destroyed (after upgrade) bootloader for comparsion
Maybee if "itsme" (or anybody other? ) create new version of pnewbootloader.exe compatible with version 2.03TX (because under this version OS it not working) then tens of magicians with flashed 2.03TX will be upgradeable again . (I can send any dump if it will be need, or try apply new version on my magicians).

hi mate, i 've had installed 2.03tx and 1.13 radio on my qtek s100 for about one year...
i've had no problem in downgrading radio to 1.12 and flashing device with cotulla rom,
the only problem is that cotulla rom does not support samsung touchscreen
my bootloader is 1.02
the only trick to update i've used is to keep activesync loaded with "allow usb connection" unchecked in settings. then it worked like a charm...

I try it too with unchecked "allow USB connection" in AS (and i have XP). By me (and many others) the problem is owerwrited bootloader. You can see attached files and compare it, you will be see...
You are right, many problems with flashing is between chair and keyboard But not now.
You have the same version of bootloader like me, then probably in version of bootloader its not. I have originally T-mobile MDA compact.
Can you send me dump of your bootloader for compare?
Sorry for my bad english, i am from Czech.

yes mate no problem, link me to a guide for bootloader dumping, i've nevere done it...
ps: good luck for yours magician

Hi Shelver,
I have 2.03TX in only one magician. The second unit is powered by Cotulla WWE_03 now
Download and unzip this: http://www.nah6.com/~itsme/itsutilsbin-20090515.zip
Connect and synchronize via AS your magician, stay connected (this util working via Active Sync) and in comand line (IN win XP of course, in vista its not guaranted) go to your unzipped directory and write this (without commas):
"pmemdump 0x80000000 0x00040000 boot.bin"
and wait few seconds to done.
It read flash from address 0x80000000 to 0x80040000 (lenght 0x40000) and store dump to file "boot.bin" Its bootloader area. Then you can send me it, compare with my posted bootloaders...

shelver said:
hi mate, i 've had installed 2.03tx and 1.13 radio on my qtek s100 for about one year...
i've had no problem in downgrading radio to 1.12 and flashing device with cotulla rom,
the only problem is that cotulla rom does not support samsung touchscreen
my bootloader is 1.02
the only trick to update i've used is to keep activesync loaded with "allow usb connection" unchecked in settings. then it worked like a charm...
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Me 2, upgraded from tx203 to Cotulla's rom and back for some SMS backup and then upgraded to Cotulla's rom again.
I think I can go as many times as I wish with my magician.

philiplam said:
Me 2, upgraded from tx203 to Cotulla's rom and back for some SMS backup and then upgraded to Cotulla's rom again.
I think I can go as many times as I wish with my magician.
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You are lucky man I try it only one time, and bootloader is broken.
I have magicians only as toys, then, if it will be problem for me, then i repair bootloader via JTAG I only try 2.03TX, and try search some help for unlucky mans, who havent JTAG Now i have one broken, and one OK. But with Samsung LCD R3 . Maybee, i change display, or upgrade it to 128MB RAM for try _R1
I am HW developer, so HW problems is easy for me I create car multimedia PC on OMAP3530 platform now for my friends. Its better toy for me, magician is lovely history Only SW is hard to write to me

hi certik, my magician is still with cotulla rom and doesn't boot because of touchscreen driver,i've not flashed it again because of i don't use it.
i'm waiting a new rom,
however when flashed i'll send you my bootloader backup

shelver said:
hi certik, my magician is still with cotulla rom and doesn't boot because of touchscreen driver,i've not flashed it again because of i don't use it.
i'm waiting a new rom,
however when flashed i'll send you my bootloader backup
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OK, Ill wait. I dont need it really, i have stored good copy of bootloader, i need it only for compare
And if you wish, you can flash cotulla WWE_03 ROM (you can directly from _04 to _03 say Cotulla) In this version touchscreen driver worked fine.

e-certik said:
OK, Ill wait. I dont need it really, i have stored good copy of bootloader, i need it only for compare
And if you wish, you can flash cotulla WWE_03 ROM (you can directly from _04 to _03 say Cotulla) In this version touchscreen driver worked fine.
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humm, ok mate, just the time to flash it with WWE_03 ROM then

hi mate, done, here is my bootloader
ps:touchscreen is now ok, thanks

Hey, you are fast
Thanks for bootloader, its the same as my original bootloader

good luck mate

e-certik said:
I have two magicians, and I read many posts about nonchangeable version 2.03TX.
I test it, and upgrade one unit. After upgrade really is not possible change any (OS or bootloader). Bootloader cant vrite itself or OS memory. I try all known techniques - SDboot, TTY (lnb, s2d d2s...) via USB, and standart os upgrade via PC (of cours, noID too).
So I have two magicians, then i use good tool from "itsme" called pmemdump.exe (thank you for your good job) and download OS images and bootloader images from my magicians. The reason is:
I dont say when, and/or why, but in some magiciansThe 2.03TX destroy bootloader!!
In my flashed magician is destroyed (nulled) area from 0x10000 to 0x10080.
I attach good (before upgrade) and destroyed (after upgrade) bootloader for comparsion
Maybee if "itsme" (or anybody other? ) create new version of pnewbootloader.exe compatible with version 2.03TX (because under this version OS it not working) then tens of magicians with flashed 2.03TX will be upgradeable again . (I can send any dump if it will be need, or try apply new version on my magicians).
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as you i still have a hope to fix my poor magician
any kind programer can do what you have said will make me and many other happy again
i have the hope