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When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.
joshstte said:
When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.
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The Dash has AKU3, which means it lacks BT DUN and only has BT PAN. This is why you don't see DUN, unlike with pre-AKU3 devices.
I'll publish a big article on all these questions in a few hours, where I explain all these questions in detail. Stay tuned!
Menneisyys
Is there a way to get a Tmobile dash paired with a G4 Mac Powerbook?
I want to access the internet on my powerbook via my Dash.
I see in your reply above you were going to write an article on this. I've not found out how to get this to work.
thanks for any help
John
I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.
hatoncat said:
I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.
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Let's all hope the Widcomm BT hack will some day also have DUN support, even under AKU3+. See the Hermes / Wizard forums for more info on the hack.
DUN / PAN Problems with OSX
I know OSX doesn't support PAN, but check this site out --> http://mobilitytoday.com/news/007194/blackjack_mac_connection
It's a write up on how to get the Samsung BlackJack working with OSX, BlackJack I believe also use PAN.
I tried it, but wasn't able to get it to work. I have to leave the office right now, so maybe someone else might have better luck than I do.
-kz
working with p3600
It seems working with a P3600 using the new network sharing feature with the USB Cable! The mac sees a ethernet port (with ip already asigned by p3600)under systempreferences>network.
I donnu if its because i have missing sync (demo) installed that that connection just comes up...
cheers..
Update: Working on MBP CoreDuo...
I've got the dash, and I set it and my macbook pro to be discoverable, went thru the wizard on the mac side which found no usable services, then enabled the "internet sharing" app on my dash, and immediately selected the "join network with tmobile43" option on the bluetooth menu on my mac, and volia! i'm typing this to you via this connection.
Solid! Now if only bluetooth charged the battery
tmobile dash bluetooth modem problem
Ok this is wat i have to say i have a macbook and when i go to bluetooth setting it says in can use the kind of network interface that ur powerbook doesnt support and the reason ur powerbook doesnt support it is either u need to upgrade ur airport card or mabye upgrade to leopard like i did or do both because im running my macbook with the 802.11n wireless and bluetooth card and with 10.5 so that might be a solution to ur problem and i also know that u should upgrade to a macbook or a macbook pro if u want excelent peformance or heavily upgrade ur powerbook g4 and anyway wat are the specs on ur powerbook??
(macbook white 2.0 ghz 80gb hd and 2 gigs of ram)
sorry i put in powerbook for some reason i meant to say wat mac do u have
It seems to me that OS X (Leopard at least) wants to use the Network Access Point Bluetooth profile with Bluetooth PAN. I got it working with WM6.1 but I had to change Bluetooth PAN from PANU to NAT.
See ]Fixing 0803xx Bluetooth PAN on OS X 10.5.
NOTE: The thread number has changed from 382057(broken) to 373138 or go directly to the post.
UPDATE: Apparently the threads have been renumbered... or at least the thread with my post in it has changed... here's the link to the post: 2080487
Hi to all.
In the new roms from WM 6. Have and application called "Internet sharing"
I want to use the USB cable (not bluetooth) to connect mi laptop to internet trought my universal 3G.
How i use it?
I activate the connection. Mark the USB and my 3G definition. Connect. It's connecto 3G. And in the laptop i cant navigate.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks.
You have to disable the USB connection in activesync on your PDA, as well on your laptop. Mine worked with WM05!
First, connect the PDA to the net by selecting usb connection and your default 3g connection, push connect and then connect the PDA to the laptop and it will be seen as some modem or something else.
You have to disable the USB connection in activesync on your PDA, as well on your laptop. Mine worked with WM05!
Thanks.
But dont wotk for me.
The laptop detect the connection sharing. But the laptop don't navigate on internet.
The Pda navigate Ok.
am having the same problems too. ive followed above posted instructions but no dice.
in my case, the connect button is grayed out.
think i may have to configure either VPN, or ADD MODEM CONNECTION or SETUP PROXY SERVER. either way i dont have any idea how.
ROM: black shadow 4
RADIO: 1.43
juanjillo said:
Thanks.
But dont wotk for me.
The laptop detect the connection sharing. But the laptop don't navigate on internet.
The Pda navigate Ok.
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Have your browser on your PC set to Auto detect Proxy settings.
My IE 7.0 have the "automatically detect Settings"
Dont work.
Thanks
juanjillo said:
Hi to all.
In the new roms from WM 6. Have and application called "Internet sharing"
I want to use the USB cable (not bluetooth) to connect mi laptop to internet trought my universal 3G.
How i use it?
I activate the connection. Mark the USB and my 3G definition. Connect. It's connecto 3G. And in the laptop i cant navigate.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks.
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Hi,
I can describe, how I am using this feature in Vista.
First I do prefer to use Bluetooth over USB. The reason: it is very often that I am in the room, were the GSM/3G signal is poor. Then I can place my Uni in the window or other place were the signal is much stronger, and connect with the Uni using Bluetooth. The transfer is more or less on the same level as on USB anyway.
Now, Internet sharing option is a new function in WM6, bit like internet sharing in desktop windows. Our PC is not using the Uni as a modem. It uses it as kind of gateway to internet, meaning it use different protocols then with modem connection.
So, after pairing my Uni with my PC in Bluetooth, I got another kind of network connection on my network connections list. It is marked as closed connection with red mark on Bluetooth icon on this list. Then I go to internet sharing in my Uni and select Bluetooth Pan option and then click “Connect”. It establishes its own connection to internet using setup, previously configured in my Uni.
Then, in my PC I go to Network connections list and just click “Bluetooth network connection” icon. This makes my PC to connect with my Uni via Bluetooth using network (TCP/IP) protocol and use it as normal internet gateway. If I click the icon once more, then I get window showing standard connection with bites transferred, buttons for options, disconnection and so on. It shows that the connection is with 1Gb/s, but this is only for connection with my Uni. The connection from Uni to Internet is , obviously much slower and depends of local conditions and 3G standard.
Hope I could help.
Edit:
If I try to do the same over USB, then there is a problem. After connecting USB cable, my PC automatically goes into AS mode and syncs with my Uni. Then If in internet sharing I select USB and click "Connect" the syncing stops, AS in Uni shuts down (this is OK), but my PC try to install a new driver for new device and it does not find it, so it can not recognize my Uni as a proper gateway to connect with over USB. If it would install a driver then on Network connections list a new connection should show up, probably named as "USB network connection".
That’s the other reason I do not use it this way.
Show second and third post. Expain how to quit USB in AS to use this feature.
I will try this trroght BT, but (for me) via Cable is better, the pda is charging all the time. Via Bluetooth the battery goes down quickly.
People need help. I flashed my cingular 8125 with crossbow reloaded rom, its great but cannot seem to understand how to use internet connection sharing to get my laptop online. under network connections i can see that my phone is connected to the internet. but my laptop refuses to browse any site. i have winxp.
raghav.kas said:
People need help. I flashed my cingular 8125 with crossbow reloaded rom, its great but cannot seem to understand how to use internet connection sharing to get my laptop online. under network connections i can see that my phone is connected to the internet. but my laptop refuses to browse any site. i have winxp.
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Check your firewall. In this mode, you are loged to a new network with different IP than your IP from your home network, if any. Using internet sharing your computer gets IP from your PPC. In my case it is 192.168.0.xx and the gateway is 192.168.0.1. It means that if your firewall was set to accept your home network with different IP, then you have to set it to accept this new IP as well. Oherways you will not get any comunication through this chanell. Of cource, this suggestion is valid only if you have any other firewall then Windows Defender.
juanjillo said:
Show second and third post. Expain how to quit USB in AS to use this feature.
I will try this trroght BT, but (for me) via Cable is better, the pda is charging all the time. Via Bluetooth the battery goes down quickly.
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I am using this in Vista. There is something named as Center for Windows Mobile Cervices. This is Vista version of AS. Here I do not need to quite USB and AS. Simply set Internet sharing option in your PPC for Bluetooth PAN and then click "Connect" in PPC. After that, click "Bluetooth Network Connection" in your Network Connections List in the PC. You will get the page with list of bluetooth access points. You should see your PPC device marked as the default device. Bellow you have "Connect" button. Click it and you are done.
By the way, the second and other posts describe the attempt to connect in the old way using modem connection. WM6 does not provide the modem support for PC connection. It means that officialy you can not use WM6 device as a modem like with WM5 or Symbian devices. However, HTC has released the modem driver for WinXP and Vista for new WM6 as an after market support. You can google for this on HTC pages. I never used this, cause this new way seems to me a lot easier. Also I never heard about anybody who succeeded with does drivers.
I use Windows Xp and the firewall is OFF
With the new WM6 rom of Ivan works for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305512
wakko said:
You have to disable the USB connection in activesync on your PDA, as well on your laptop. Mine worked with WM05!
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Hi, just checking, my O2 WM5 rom don't come with the "Internet Sharing" program.
May I know how to get it?
My current rom version is 1.30.107
Hi Guys,
complete newby, know-nothing-boy here.
Got my xda orbit and just trying to get it all set up the way I want it to work. this is not easy given that I am a complete technophobe so everything's a massive learning curve.....
.....so, I got my orbit 2 connected to my works pc through Active sync and it talks to the calendar and everything appears to be fine and I've set up a bluetooth connection and can beam a file from my laptop to the phone. However, I cannot get my calendar/emails to up-date through bluetooth and neither me nor our IT guy can figure out why not!!!!
Can any guru on here help please.
Thanks,
David
Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.
namaste74 said:
Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.
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I'm on XP and I have not downloaded the new mobile device centre. where should I ge tit from??
Thanks,
David
Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David
Hi David,
1. You have to pair your Touch with XP
2. Create a incoming port.
3. select the incoming port in active sync for connection
4. start activesync on touch
if you need further info please use the search function.
Best Regards
Yoshi
david_miller70 said:
Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David
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Windows mobile device center works only with Vista
David,
I feel for you sir.
I've been a PDA / Pocket PC user for a LONG time. I've used a Kyocera 6035 (Palm-based Cell/PDA), Sprint 6601, Sprint 6700, AT&T 8525, and even a BlackJack II. So I've used Windows XP with a Pocket PC LOTS of times, but *I* had trouble while in Chicago this week.
A co-worker lent me his Sony VGX-UX280 for that trip. It's a Ultra Portable "laptop" with Bluetooth, Wireless, and Windows XP loaded. Having setup my phone to "tether" (aka provided an Internet Connection) to my Dell Inspiron 9400, a MacBook Pro, a MacBook, and other laptops... I didn't have any concerns about using my phone for Internet on the road. Boy, was that a mistake.
So I'm on the road, and I try to use Internet Sharing on my cell to provide a connection the laptop. It seems to connect, and the laptop tries to pull an IP connection over bluetooth, but it NEVER got a private IP address... so it assigns itself a 169 address that as many know isn't a "connected" IP for most network situations. It's a fallback, when a network device can't find a DHCP server to provide an IP address. Instead, it assigns one to itself, but it's offline.
I confirm that the "sharing" is part of the problem by running Internet Explorer. When "sharing" is connected", I couldn't get to a web page on the phone. If I disconnect, everything works as it should. So I'm like WTF?
I came out to this site and others from my phone browser, and one post said I needed ActiveSync connected between the phone and laptop to tether. So I tried setting up ActiveSync over bluetooth, but try as I might if would NEVER connect.
I then downloaded WMWifi something or other. It basically turns your WM phone into a Wireless AP so laptops and other devices can connect to the Internet. But similar to the Bluetooth problem, I couldn't pull an IP. This was VERY odd, because the Wifi program let you configure which IP numbers you wanted to use. Several options were available, such as 192.168.0.x, 192.168.1.x, up to 192.168.3.x. And there was another range as well, but none of these worked. Not even when I set a static IP address in the proper range on the laptop, or turned off the IP setting in the Wifi program, as suggested in their documentation.
So while trying to "fix" things, I tried deleting my existing Activesync profile. BAD idea, as that deleted all my contacts and such from the phone. So then I'm in Chicago, 2000 miles from home, and the only phone numbers I have with NO names is what is in my call history.
At this point, I figure I have one of two problems.
1) The config to the AT&T network on my cell is wrong, which is why the connection isn't working as it had in the past. I do know that while the AT&T settings auto-configured by the Touch Cruise weren't perfect after the wizard ran. I went out to AT&T's web site, and customized my settings to match the Tilt recommended configure. I also configured a "standard" GPRS setting that DOES NOT use the AT&T Proxy Server. That's been the ONLY way I can use Skype .6, as it can't connect to their website through Media Net.
2) One of the many programs I've installed on my phone has fouled the registry/config of my phone. I made a list of all the apps I've installed on my phone, and I suppose any one of these could have screwed up my ability to tether...
Skyfire .6
Flash Player Active X
CoreCodec Coreplayer
HTC HTC Home - Schen 2.10
MS Remote Desktop
Bluefire
Total Commander
PM Registry Editor
iNav iGuidance
Franson GpsGate 2.0
Google Maps
With the above, I can navigate anywhere in the US, connect to my work network with VPN, control my computer there like I was in my chair, and much more. But obviously not being able to get to the Internet on the road is unacceptable.
Probably will hard reset the phone this morning, and take it from there.
Sorry if it seems like I took over your thread. But like you, I had NO luck connecting ActiveSync through Bluetooth.
(Quick note: Even when I borrowed a USB Cable on the road, and tried to tether my laptop to my phone for Internet... I STILL couldn't get IE to connect to websites via my phone. I COULD use Activesync, but by then I'd already lost my contacts, etc. So I'll get that back on the phone now that I'm home.)
Hi All,
I'm trying to setup my computer so it can use my Fuze for an internet connection. I'm currently running...
IVT BlueSoleil version 6.4.249.0
EnergyROM 20090709 Standard
I am able to setup a pairing between my phone and my computer by connecting through BlueSoleil.
I notice that my phone connects to COM10 then disconnects, but it says paired on the BlueSoleil manager (don't know whats up with COM10).
I then go to Internet Sharing and connect (on my Fuze), it says device setup has finished, connect bluetooth PAN on PC.
I go back to BlueSoleil (on my computer), right click on my Fuze and click "Connect Bluetooth Personal Area Network" and it gives me "operation not succesful, please try again".
I'm not sure what else to do, I can connect through activesync using usb, but not through bluetooth.
Any ideas?
Update
I got something going on the connection but no internet connection.
Basically when the phone was pairing with the adapter, it would pop up the "COM Port 10" connected box. During the time it was trying to connect I would right click on the phone and click "connect to PAN" or whatever its called and it actually connected!
However, it assigned me a 169.something address and I opened IE in windows but it woudn't load any web pages....bummer.
I'm having a problem with the same ROM, NRG's last couple of ROM's haven't worked on Bluetooth Internet Sharing correctly for me. When I get a chance, I'm going to roll back to a few months ago when it was working for sure just to confirm it is something with the ROM.
BTW, mine connects successfully, but it doesn't give my laptop an IP correctly.
activesync don't use pan for bluetooth at all it does a direct serial connection over bluetooth not a pan network based one
here is a guide for pan
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
this search should give a lot of step by step guides how one
make the com bluetooth port and connect it giving the search
as it depend on which bluetooth stack being used in both ends
http://www.google.dk/search?source=...ivesync&btnG=Google-søgning&meta=lr=&aq=f&oq=
Solved....sorta
OK, so yesterday I had gotten an IP address and it was connected but I thought I wasn't getting any internet service. Turns out I was, but it was incredibly slow, and the connection would go on and off. It did what I wanted to do but its not useable.
While I'm posting, I wanted to do Activesync over Bluetooth but my Fuze has COM ports from 0 to 9 and my Bluesoleil has Com ports 10 and up. How am I suppose to get the two to communicate if I can't get them on the same port? If I try to create a new port in Bluesoleil it starts and 13 and keeps going up...
bever used that bluesoil but heard many bad things about that stack
never had any issues using ms or vidcomm stacks both on the pc side and pda side
and cross
but never really used PAN as I have a wifi router and even if I did not then
they are dirt cheap and if you got a cable or adsl modem you just plug that into the wifi router and connect your desktop with a cable as they are also swtichs
Changed ROM, very fast now
I changed ROM's this morning to the AHEN_ROM and wow, what a difference. Just connected to see what would happen and its just as fast as the USB connection was. I'm not sure what is different about the ROM's but I can surf the web over my phone connection very nicely now.
I can't seem to able to connect the HD2 to my MacBook Pro, other than as a external HD drive. Which is fine for exchanging files, an dI don't need Activesync or the Vista version. But I do want to use it as a modem. Either via Bluetooth, a cable or as Wif Router. And though I am usually quite handy with these kind of things, I can't get any of them to work. So hopefully someone has made it to work, and can let me know the tricks?
Same problem here, but I'm able to connect to my SD card. What I do is to put all the update file in to SD card and run it.
Hello,
You should find in the programs on your HD2 one called Wifi Router.
Running it, you will be able to choose a name for your network and choose the key (WEP only)
Than from your Mac by clicking on the Airport icon, you should see your newly created network under "Devices". Just connect to it with the WEP key you determined and there you go !
WifI router is a great application. Working fine on a MS machine (XP, Vista). But it;s not stable with my Macbook/Apple. It's hard to get an connection (even find it), and only connects for a short time. I have not been able to get one biy in to webbrowser or mail. It just disconnects and says no internet connection...
Sorry to hear that =(
Using it on 2 Macbooks without any issues (stable and fast connection)
Works fine for me sorry! Submit it to HTC see what they say...
Same problem here between my new HD2 and macbook pro... Unable to connect to internet using Bluetooth/USB connection. WiFi router connect but internet connection don't work. Any solution?
PS : sharing files via USB or bluetooth is possible.
Looks like it is something of the new generation Macbook. Before I bought the apple, i was able to test it in an apple shop. It worked (Wifi Router)! As I said: no USB connection, no BT connection and not via WiFi Router. However it does work as an external Harddisk. It should be the settings in the Macbook to make Wi-Fi Router work! It connects (now and again, but not stable) But no internet according to Safari (for you guys/girls whom still own a dinosaur: that's the browser..). Settings of Macbook Pro???
I'm currently trying to find a way.
There is a software called "USBModem" from Mobile Stream that allow Windows Mobile USB and bluetooth connexion for Mac users.
I'm working actually with support team (very reactive!) for HD2 to be compatible with this software.
Hope they will be abble to make something great
Unfortunately, Mobile Stream Team can't make anything for HD2<=>Mac USB connexion
If somebody has a solution...
I started the thread, may be I can end it. Strangely enough, outside of my home Wifi area, I can get the connection between HD2's Wifi router and my Macbook. At home, somehow my HD2 tries to contact at the same the home network, and therefore does not get a stable connection with my Apple. So it's great: outside it works, inside I have a network and no need for tethering...