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Greetings,
this is a new rom from pda mobiz, anybody tried it. ITS V5.
clickhere to get it.
Thanks
samy.3660 said:
Greetings,
this is a new rom from pda mobiz, anybody tried it. ITS V5.
clickhere to get it.
Thanks
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lot of us have flashed our devices at least 10 times in the last month. can you provide us more details about this rom, I'm getting tired of wm6 roms.
Thats the same problem with me!!
i think thats problem with everyone we need to settle down but how long ???? i hoop that someone has two device and will test it and provide us with more information
It's been a while i'm using mun-rus WM6 which it's rom build version is 17xxxx and it's fine,all of other ROMs are 15xxxx build and don't have much different in performance and types of bugs.
Can someone post the MS build number from the ROM?
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Can someone post the MS build number from the ROM?
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It's the same as V1 to now, it's just improved with some reg fixes, other splash-screen and some progs.
It's not bad, loaded with stuff, ringtones, todaythemes etc.
It's a ROM for the lazy people, like me, although I'm using now the mUn's fixed version which is good..
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It's the same as V1 to now, it's just improved with some reg fixes, other splash-screen and some progs.
It's not bad, loaded with stuff, ringtones, todaythemes etc.
It's a ROM for the lazy people, like me, although I'm using now the mUn's fixed version which is good..
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Im still working on the ultimate fixed version of mUn's rom. Getting a little frustrating. LOL
Yeah that's funny, "tired of WM6 ROMs"
I flashed V.5 like 2 days ago and there's very little info on changes, i haven't seen any..beside Ferrari thing
what i noticed stuff like MMS composer, Voice dial (or voice commander) biuld's are different(older) comparing to mUn's
And there REALLY Should be some sort of guide/comparison for people who honour and appreciate work of all cookers out there, but ..just want to use SOLID Rom. knowing the differences, and having them presented clearly in a spreadsheet comparison would be most helpful.
Because there are guys wanting ALL The latest, and MOST STABLE.
At present WM6 have some serious flaws but only to people who happen to use WiFi, and MMS's(which is about 80% od wizard owners ; ) ) alot. So choosing right rom "distribution" now is next to IMPOSSIBLE, less choosing "stable" one.
Maybe "wiki" ought to serve this purpose, thus far we are stuck with "well known" cooker names producing unstable roms.
As much as i would like to thank all cookers, and community of Wizard experts, i am stuck with finding out more and more suprises after flashing each new rom distro.
Now Farias' suprised me by not being able to use contacts from sim card ..
Beside comparison of components numbers(like rom built date, prog. ver.) there should be shor explanation as of why cooker have chosen to include older, or newer version of specific soft., and next column : possible problems encountered by users..
I know that if i talk so much i should do it myself : ),
but short on time, and knowledge of figuring as to what format, type of database would be needed for "central Repository", or "future/bug" tracking wiki..
I think that it could help out rom cooks(ers: )) or us. When compiling they could make choice based on this centrall rep. of futures/problems of certain prog. versions: like battery plugin.. beta 2, or beta 3, what difference,
now it takes several hours to find out diffs., possible problems, and make concious choice: with least risk as to what WE want (in terms of functionality) and whether stability is at premium to us.
I don't agree
If you cannot do simple registry changes to show sim-contacts or cannot configure MMS you don't want to update your ROM.
Because if you cannot find the solution in this forum you probably cannot find the solution when you brick your phone.
I think this forum is for people with a bit more interest than the average phone-owner.
And in the end there is always somebody prepared to help.
I don't agree either.
It's not the forum's responsibility to rate and/or categorize each rom as it comes out. The threads for each rom or additional threads where users place their experiences with these roms.
Some chefs create basic stable roms, some stable with loads of ram, some super-fast with very little ram & etc. You choose the rom that works for you. Is there a best rom...NO; what counts is what you want and works for you.
If you just want what manufacturers give you, then you're in the wrong place.
Flashing these roms are not a right....it's a priveledge!!!
Ok guys,
Thanks, you've got some good points, i hope you can see where i am comming from..
1. it is fact that it IS A Privilege, and to that I AM gratefull that i have right to be using it.
2. i think there is no point in wasting of time researching over and over The SAME THINGS.., that i've seen for last year.
You(forum) can either give to users something more clear, or make them seek info over and over again, causing for stupid questions to arise, when someone may not have time to read through 64 pages of...\
and that's just one thread...
3.would it hurt to spend less than 5 hours doing research, and not finding what you originally intended, of ... oh well, "time is money, so don't waste it honey"
4. ok, so it is "simple" registry edit to fix sim card not being read by wm6 contacts app. It's just that it is basic funcionality, and when it comes to "names" it shouldn't happen, I believe that most of us would be glad to beta test them for our gurus' and reprizent' Xda-DEV cookers to the world RIGHT! Yo,
5. MMS .. well, when all config is right, and i have narrowed it down to radio rom version in "synchronisation error" deal, it's hard not to be average user, or even neglecting one, when You YOURSELF are unableto fix radio rom..
less even M$oft ain't touching many problems..
is WAITING, and Wa$ting of time a solution for you? ... digging through pile of wm6 roms to find one with LEAST Errors../ after which to be left out without basic functionality expected from phone..
i think comparisons and central database would make 4 all of us one nifty time/nerve saving future..
and just so it won't look like i am NOt appreciating my privileges i am contributing to community in a meanwhile(maybe before i cook my own../ or rather uncook, ever since heat processing makes it all tasteless and leaving us with all but one option to do: use spices, and salt..
I'd like to help to to make a RAW, FRESH ROM, call it Vanille, clean. Giving some constructive feedback, helping guys like mUn, and other nottoosmart guys alike..
( ;; ) )
well, cheers to all yall!
It seems this rom isnt as popular as the others.....its the nature of the beast with roms though.
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Ok guys,
Thanks, you've got some good points, i hope you can see where i am comming from..
1. it is fact that it IS A Privilege, and to that I AM gratefull that i have right to be using it.
2. i think there is no point in wasting of time researching over and over The SAME THINGS.., that i've seen for last year.
You(forum) can either give to users something more clear, or make them seek info over and over again, causing for stupid questions to arise, when someone may not have time to read through 64 pages of...\
and that's just one thread...
3.would it hurt to spend less than 5 hours doing research, and not finding what you originally intended, of ... oh well, "time is money, so don't waste it honey"
4. ok, so it is "simple" registry edit to fix sim card not being read by wm6 contacts app. It's just that it is basic funcionality, and when it comes to "names" it shouldn't happen, I believe that most of us would be glad to beta test them for our gurus' and reprizent' Xda-DEV cookers to the world RIGHT! Yo,
5. MMS .. well, when all config is right, and i have narrowed it down to radio rom version in "synchronisation error" deal, it's hard not to be average user, or even neglecting one, when You YOURSELF are unableto fix radio rom..
less even M$oft ain't touching many problems..
is WAITING, and Wa$ting of time a solution for you? ... digging through pile of wm6 roms to find one with LEAST Errors../ after which to be left out without basic functionality expected from phone..
i think comparisons and central database would make 4 all of us one nifty time/nerve saving future..
and just so it won't look like i am NOt appreciating my privileges i am contributing to community in a meanwhile(maybe before i cook my own../ or rather uncook, ever since heat processing makes it all tasteless and leaving us with all but one option to do: use spices, and salt..
I'd like to help to to make a RAW, FRESH ROM, call it Vanille, clean. Giving some constructive feedback, helping guys like mUn, and other nottoosmart guys alike..
( ;; ) )
well, cheers to all yall!
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Dude.....we're not supposed to have these roms.....!
This is why we have to go somewhere else to download them.
A comparison chart for something that we are not supposed to have....need I say more.
A comparison chart would be nice though but these roms don't work the same on every device.
Example: several roms were said to have incorrect values on the touch keyboard...I have never experienced this where others have.
Constructive feedback: IMO I beleive that's what everyone who installs a rom and discuss their experience is contributing to make the installed rom better. Some have mishaps and need help but a majority try to make the rom better. Not everyone can create cab files and discover what reg edit is best...those who can supply while those who can't, test.
If you start a comparison chart, I'll join in. PM me with what you got.
As far as making a clean rom....I'll help with that too.
Orwells WM6 is a clean version....that's where alot of these roms originate from.
You and I, we have our own opinions and are able to discuss them, thats what makes a forum.
dwny said:
As far as making a clean rom....I'll help with that too.
Orwells WM6 is a clean version....that's where alot of these roms originate from.
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Now that I've been on Faria's "the real thing" and mUn's, I don't think I could go back to any of the previous WM6 roms. MBE was decent after a lot of tweaking, but these two new ones are far above more complete and stable than anything I had previously.
I'll wait for the Faria vanilla and the nottoosmart stripped and fixed mUn ROM. I think both of these will be the standard for some time...
You know what i would say the same, as close to the top. What is so different from all the WM6 rom really!!! We are getting 20 million new ones everyday!!!
I am running faria's WM6 rom, and that is the only i have flashed, cus i dont trust any other!!! Looking at what people are saying i would say it was the best cus it does not have so many problems!!!
At it is so much fun to find solutions to problems, if we did not have that we would be so bored!!! Think of your self as beta testers for Mircosoft!!! Cus they dont do any work but the Roms are getting so much better!
I tested/flashed all ROMs uploaded on my Folder (IW25NT), so at least I know what I'm talking about.
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I tested/flashed all ROMs uploaded on my Folder (IW25NT), so at least I know what I'm talking about.
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So have I..........
And I'll keep on doing that, if I don't like I'll just restore the old setup.
What is annoying here lately, is that if someone posts a ROM, you'll either get all kinds of remarks how bad this ROM is (if it is not from 1 of our XDA Xprts), or remarks like before posted.
That one of the reason's why I stopped posting if I updated my Folder.
I'll continue to upload, just look ones in a while.
this rom is very fast, stable, low battery consumption!
Hi peple!
I am NEW in this "busines"...
I bought my first HTC (HTC universal - branded to Vodafone V1640) 15 days ago, and I am not too happy with WM5 which i got with it.....
Well, I want to update it to WM6 but need to know which is THE BEST ROM???
Thanks in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308461
Ha, ha, ha, ha, HA!
You are HILARIOUS fallenczar !!!
If you dont want to help, please dont meke it harder to us "nOOb-s"
Thanks!
1.000.000 ROM-s!
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(your title)
You cannot say that! (incase you are a Hermes user)
Well, there is at lest 200?!
Am I improving in counting?
NEED HELP said:
Well, there is at lest 200?!
Am I improving in counting?
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If you are talking about hermes ROMs, then, you may be right, but, if you are talking about universal, then, there are not more than 10-15 ROMs(for wm6)
Lets me re-frase my question: which room would you say is with least errors?
here is your answer, set aside a few hours, install the latest ones and decide which one you like the most.
there is no 'best' rom, only those that suit your tastes/needs more.
Accent is on: LEEST ERRORS!
NEED HELP said:
Accent is on: LEEST ERRORS!
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Accent is on: READ THE FORUMS FFS!
NEED HELP said:
Accent is on: LEEST ERRORS!
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Come on man!!...whats the matter with you?..use your brains! People spend THEIR own time building and releasing roms here for the rest of us to try and test and report back and you suddenly jump in and ask the stupidest question this side of the century. Go and do your own homework..you work it out yourself..read whats written in these forums then come back and you will no longer be a NOOB. No one is gonna hold up the toilet seat whilst you take a p***.
best rom is PDAVIET 2.10.11 ROM, with Radio 1.18 ... and it is the only ROM I've tried ;-)
Best WM5 ROM is the official WM5 ROM.
Best WM6 ROM depends on your preference. No ROM has the "least Errors/Bugs". They have the same amount of Errors/bugs. If you don't believe me, try them all.
Once you're done, you are no longer a n00b. And you are no longer new in this "Business". You are now out of what you thought was xda-noobies. Welcome to xda-developers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305512
this is the best rom in my experience! I had installed all WM6 Rom. like hermes, PDA VIET... event with some rom of Ivan! But this rom is very stable, ram recovering well after using some software, especially when log in internet through wifi! May be with my device is the best but I think you should try it first to save your time!
bukwit said:
Accent is on: READ THE FORUMS FFS!
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For sure...Read and try the differents roms avalaible and you could make your own choice : you'll find the better rom ...
It's not because your noob that you don't have to read : quite to the contrary ... you should read more than everyone...Being a noob is not a good excuse !!
I've tried certainly all wm6 released on universal. Each rom have advantage and inconvenient...
The best way is to test it yourself !
In my case i've stopped on leo's Rom because i like his kitchen base !
bukwit said:
Come on man!!...whats the matter with you?..use your brains! People spend THEIR own time building and releasing roms here for the rest of us to try and test and report back and you suddenly jump in and ask the stupidest question this side of the century. Go and do your own homework..you work it out yourself..read whats written in these forums then come back and you will no longer be a NOOB. No one is gonna hold up the toilet seat whilst you take a p***.
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Wow, I can see you have that British sense of humor, well known in WHOLE WORLD.....
Do you find it hard to comprehend, these ROMs are home brew, the people using them are techie people that like messing with these things, and different tastes suit different people.
Why do you think so much variety exists in everything in life? It's because different people come to different conclusions.
It's why there are so many damn versions of linux.
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Wow, I can see you have that British sense of humor, well known in WHOLE WORLD.....
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how is tell you to get off your lazy arse and do something for yourself a 'british sense of humor', in fact how is it any sense of humor...
starting to think you're retarded AND lazy...
BRITS........!!!!!
Hey,
There are a lot of us Brits on this forum, not a wise move from someone asking for help.
We were all "noobs" once, the best way to deal with your issues is read the damn threads, and when you still don't find any answers ask "POLITELY" for assistance.
We are all here to help each other, and we will help, but please abide by the rules (You may have failed to read those too!!) and try to be polite.
None of us here make any financial gain from what we do, and the help and knowledge that we pass on is free of charge.
So have a little respect and expect to be criticised if you can't bother to learn by a little reading.
Beast
May i upgrade with Dutty's Official WM6.1 directly over original tilt rom 6.0?
It is better to flash with TYTN II rom before ?
Thanks
See the thread titled All Significant Kaiser Upgrading Links. Start Here! ? Read that!
DON'T FEED THE N00Bs. Teach them to read!!!
LOL, this is really starting to get good.
P1Tater said:
LOL, this is really starting to get good.
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I think we should all be posting a message like that at the end of each of our redundant assistance posts. It certainly gets the point across...
I agree. I think I really needed the smiles I get from this. man I am one dimented person.
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I agree. I think I really needed the smiles I get from this. man I am one dimented person.
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It certainly gets the point across, and it's fun reading for all!
As long as we don't get truly insulting and we always give them links, I think it should be fine.
We'll see if other members think we're being too harsh as we continue
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It certainly gets the point across, and it's fun reading for all!
As long as we don't get truly insulting and we always give them links, I think it should be fine.
We'll see if other members think we're being too harsh as we continue
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And it's nice to see someone else join the club with me and tater
We can start rotating the flamethrower to make it fun for the whole family...
jarek91 said:
And it's nice to see someone else join the club with me and tater
We can start rotating the flamethrower to make it fun for the whole family...
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ROFLMFAO. Man if you guys could see my smile. My favorite so far has been "HEY FLAMEBAIT".
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...man I am one demented person.
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Does this mean that your avatar is a real life picture of yourself? [I corrected the misspelling of demented]
NotATreoFan said:
Does this mean that your avatar is a real life picture of yourself? [I corrected the misspelling of demented]
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pretty close to it I hear.
_Alex_ said:
See the thread titled All Significant Kaiser Upgrading Links. Start Here! ? Read that!
DON'T FEED THE N00Bs. Teach them to read!!!
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him how to fish and he eats for a lifetime...
-Jay
i got the same question, flash a duty 6.1 over 6.0 rom? i tried reading but can't find a question to it. is is YES or NO?
kinvid said:
i got the same question, flash a duty 6.1 over 6.0 rom? i tried reading but can't find a question to it. is is YES or NO?
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no you cant flash dutty's 6.1 over a 6.0 rom. you either need some special hardware or you need a phone that is shipped with a 6.1 rom, which does not exist yet
this specific reason is why almost nobody uses dutty's 6.1 rom at all. if you take a look in dutty's thread, you will see hundreds of post of ppl who wish that they are able to use dutty's 6.1 rom.....if you had read a little more, you would find that dutty's rom is probably one of the least popular roms around here
sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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Point #1: You are not "newer" than I am. If I can do it so can you.
Point #2: It is not a maybe but a DEFINITE need for you to read more.
Point #3: Car dealers come out with updated models of cars each year. Do you NEED to buy the new model each year? Flash a ROM, if you like it keep it if not try another one. You will find that even when you find the ROM of your dreams a master chef like Dutty comes along and makes the ROM you loved feel like you are running a triathlon in chain mail.
Ron <stepping of the soap box>
mark43 said:
Point #1: You are not "newer" than I am. If I can do it so can you.
Point #2: It is not a maybe but a DEFINITE need for you to read more.
Point #3: Car dealers come out with updated models of cars each year. Do you NEED to buy the new model each year? Flash a ROM, if you like it keep it if not try another one. You will find that even when you find the ROM of your dreams a master chef like Dutty comes along and makes the ROM you loved feel like you are running a triathlon in chain mail.
Ron <stepping of the soap box>
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point #1: i am newer despite the fact i joined before you. I joined in December and only browse through the forum just enough to decide if this phone is worth buying over an Iphone. in terms of flashing, I am new. Yes i can do it if you can, so encouraging of you.
point #2: Glad i found this forum, but I did not read enough to know how exactly how I can flash. i've been flashing satellite boxes for years so yes I definitely need to read more if i didn't know something so simple about flashing a ROM in a phone. I guess installling Windows Vista over XP on a desktop is no different than trying to install Mobile Windows 6.1 over 6.0 or over 5.0 DUH...i feel stupid, thanks for pointing that out
point #3: Not a good analogy, cars require monetary investment and undergo drastic changes typically every 4 years while cook ROM only your own "personal peference" and some good knowledge and understanding on how to flash. That is what i'm trying to do, I already know the procedures but if i get bash left to right by seniors just by asking one simple question in a thread i did not start, i'll go get help elsewhere.
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sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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Welcome to the wonderful world of sarcasm
Yes - you can flash Dutty's 6.1 rom (or any other 6.1) directly on a 6.0 rom.
No - you don't need to upgrade whenever a new rom comes out... only if you want to try new or better aspects of your rom, or if you become a flash addict like the rest of us.
Before you start make sure you have installed Hard SPL - if you can't get that flashed to your phone then don't go any further or you run the risk of bricking your phone.
Also, read the threads in the WIKI and all of THIS STICKY before you start. Even if some of them don't seem relevant to what you want to do they give you pointers to what can go wrong.
Lastly, when you flash, if you get problems such as no sound, camera not working, keyboard layout wrong etc do a search - most problems have been found before and can be easily resolved.
ach2 said:
Welcome to the wonderful world of sarcasm
Yes - you can flash Dutty's 6.1 rom (or any other 6.1) directly on a 6.0 rom.
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I have not posted much and this is the first warm, welcoming reply I ever got. I ask questions if and only if I can not find the answers to my own questions in these ridiculously amount of posts within pages of threads. Thanks for the kind reply.
I am new to flashing roms on the Kaiser as well, but I managed to read through a handful of postings to find out the steps and files necessary. All the resources are out there and they are easy to find. Just hope that you don't have an important incoming call before you install the 6.1 radio. That happened to me. Good luck and make sure you do your homework before you start.
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I am new to flashing roms on the Kaiser as well, but I managed to read through a handful of postings to find out the steps and files necessary. All the resources are out there and they are easy to find. Just hope that you don't have an important incoming call before you install the 6.1 radio. That happened to me. Good luck and make sure you do your homework before you start.
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LOL....incoming call...i waited til 3am to flash my phone. well it's all done and said. Just install hard spl and flash it with a 6.1 radio and Dutty's 6.1 ROM. Wow i like the cube function and phone is much faster. easier than I thought. flashing hour is up! back go sleep.
Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
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Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
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NOPE. Feel free to be the first.
new_ppc_user said:
Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
P1Tater said:
NOPE. Feel free to be the first.
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Be aware that it will be your full-time job as new ROMs come out almost every 2-3 days.
well lets put it this way. im sure many of you have tried several different roms on your devices.
can anyone shed some light our input into the major rom players?
answer this question and you will get it
Do you like apple or orange ?
They are both fruit but you cannot head to head compare them.
Beside that newer rom is likely but not necessarily to be better. Try around with different Rom and radio to get your favorite one. Well, It takes about 15 mins to flash so you can pretty much try all the Rom in here in few days. In the end, if you are not happy , do some extensive research so you can brew your own.
Dutty Rom is popular and pretty suitable to start up.
aberz said:
answer this question and you will get it
Do you like apple or orange ?
They are both fruit but you cannot head to head compare them.
Beside that newer rom is likely but not necessarily to be better. Try around with different Rom and radio to get your favorite one. Well, It takes about 15 mins to flash so you can pretty much try all the Rom in here in few days. In the end, if you are not happy , do some extensive research so you can brew your own.
Dutty Rom is popular and pretty suitable to start up.
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i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
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i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
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Sleuth would also be considered a major player here...
In regards to what you want in a ROM, all signs are pointing to Dutty's except for the useful applications. Just add em yourself though...
His is the fastest ROM I have ever used for any device, including the Hermes...
However, opinions are like assholes....
new_ppc_user said:
i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
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So let me get this straight. You want someone else to do all the work and let you reap the benefits? I see now.
My God man. They cooked the rom. What more do you want? You want me to flash your phone for you? WOW.
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So let me get this straight. You want someone else to do all the work and let you reap the benefits? I see now.
My God man. They cooked the rom. What more do you want? You want me to flash your phone for you? WOW.
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He's got a pretty hectic schedule unlike us.
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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He's got a pretty hectic schedule unlike us.
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cuz all we do is spoonfeed
new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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No, I dont look for reviews of roms. I flash them and if I dont like them I flash a different one. I have literally tried every single rom (that is in English unlike ATW who even tries foriegn languages) to try and find the one that works best for me. I suggest you do the same and quit asking for someone to do the work for you. The reason I say this is that I can't tell you how many times this same question has been asked. You are definitely not the first nor will you be the last. It seems as though it comes up at least once a week. So, read the first post of the rom, if you dont like what you read or see then move on to the next. Either that or do as most of us do and flash it.
new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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We don't need to scour the internet looking for reviews. We just read the threads in the forum and test ourselves. All the information you will ever need is found in these forums.
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No, I dont look for reviews of roms. I flash them and if I dont like them I flash a different one. I have literally tried every single rom (that is in English unlike ATW who even tries foriegn languages) to try and find the one that works best for me. I suggest you do the same and quit asking for someone to do the work for you. The reason I say this is that I can't tell you how many times this same question has been asked. You are definitely not the first nor will you be the last. It seems as though it comes up at least once a week. So, read the first post of the rom, if you dont like what you read or see then move on to the next. Either that or do as most of us do and flash it.
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Yup... with this guy... it's very easy to use PIM backup and your storage card to backup your vitals before flashing. Sure it's tedious, but that's how this all works. People will review different ROMS on different criteria and it's up to you to find what makes you happy.
new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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Smart man , you want to pay the least to get the most .
1st fold
You want to do as little as possible, so we have to do more to cover your work ? > Fail
2nd fold
There is no "we" and "as users" , should be " I " " as a lazy leecher"
And there is also no point in promoting ROMs discussion. We can talk all day without coming up with any thing good but potential conflict.
> fail, again
I dont know about your schedule but my is also packed too ( ask a pre-med, senior Bio student) . And most of peeps here also get a thing call "life" . If I can do it , you can too. Flashing a Rom is not rocket science that would take a life time to do.
How about this, consider flashing your piece of device a relaxing activity for your break . I would be less pain and more joy. If you dont find flashing , trying and using Rom fun , why bother asking here.
p/s for the amount of time finish 2 posts , you could have already flashed a cool Rom lol.
I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I'm afraid the only way to work out the best ROM for you is to test them all. If a ROM is unstable, you'll be able to tell pretty quickly from scanning the thread and what is one man's "useful applications" is another man's "bloatware".
The best analogy I've seen is with cars - to some people the perfect car is a sports car, to others it's a people-carrier, everyone's needs and uses are different. Also, as most of the ROMs are built on the same two or three OS builds, you're comparing the cars with virtually identical engines, so differences will be minor*.
My suggestion is make a list of what you use on your phone, then decide if you want a fast ROM (in which case flash a lite ROM and add the bits you want via cabs) or an easy ROM (in which case flash a ROM that's got the most of the things on your list).
You will never get everyone to agree on the "best" ROM simply because there isn't one that is head and shoulders above the others*, just optimised by and for different chefs.
*No offence intended to the great chefs on this forum! I know how much work you must put into your ROMs and I'm not trying to belittle that, just get the point across.
Also, it doesn't hurt to take the little bit of time that is required to make an SDConfig.txt file for the User Customization that most of the ROMs utilize now. That in and of itself is a huge timesaver. Take advantage of that, and someone else also posted PIM Backup, which can also help aid in moving from one ROM to another.
Use one ROM for a week, see how you like it then move on if you want to. That's more or less what I've done. And I've found what I've liked.
JUst another case of someone wanting to be fed.
Was it Karhu who would do benchmarks of all the ROM's in the Hermes forum? Talk about intensive... but again, strictly numbers, meant as an informative comparison of different things.
I think I got your thoughts...
I wanna a ROM table for comparisons... I can say its very difficult to make
1) ROMs change every day... its a rough job to keep it update
2) ROMs are like taste. You like a XYZ ROM because its faster but a friend may like a BCD ROM because it runs that app faster.
3) There ia a lot of apps within those ROMs that make they different. Comparing works if all ROMs carried the same stuff.
4) There are no tops ROM... there are populars ROM
I'm looking to flash my kaiser too but I allways got confused too with different cooked ROMs.
I suggest you to read all of your interest, ask them for any detailed spec. Install the HardSPL for Godsake and try it.
Not much point to this other than me just coming to a slow realization, I don't know why it took me this long but I've finally realized most of the problems I read about are caused by people NOT reading and the problems never really should have happened in the first place.
Perfect example is the new firmware, I've lost count of how many people have posted issues with it even though they aren't superCID and don't even know what that means. Or people not taking the time to research some key vocabulary words, like the difference between a radio and an ruu.
I just don't understand why somebody would spend the money to buy a relatively expensive phone like the sensation and then not take the time to research and read thoroughly before attempting something that could potentially brick their brand new toy??
Ahhh, forget it, maybe I'm just cranky...
kingston73 said:
Not much point to this other than me just coming to a slow realization, I don't know why it took me this long but I've finally realized most of the problems I read about are caused by people NOT reading and the problems never really should have happened in the first place.
Perfect example is the new firmware, I've lost count of how many people have posted issues with it even though they aren't superCID and don't even know what that means. Or people not taking the time to research some key vocabulary words, like the difference between a radio and an ruu.
I just don't understand why somebody would spend the money to buy a relatively expensive phone like the sensation and then not take the time to research and read thoroughly before attempting something that could potentially brick their brand new toy??
Ahhh, forget it, maybe I'm just cranky...
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yep man...it is very boring to say thousand of time the same thing! well but no one can change it...unfortunately
While this is true, you also have to understand that some threads did not state that you need the latest firmware for the rom to work. I remember flashing a ics rom for the first time and the original thread did not sya I need ton upgrade my firmware
c19932 said:
While this is true, you also have to understand that some threads did not state that you need the latest firmware for the rom to work. I remember flashing a ics rom for the first time and the original thread did not sya I need ton upgrade my firmware
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This is so true. Some of the instructions are missing steps that you need to complete before you even start. And this board is MASSIVE in size, so finding the right info for your device might sometimes be tricky.
its because people are too impatient
Now don't blame the threads "missing steps" or "not saying you need to upgrade." If you're going to flash your phone with experimental software, you need to know what you're doing.
sshede said:
Now don't blame the threads "missing steps" or "not saying you need to upgrade." If you're going to flash your phone with experimental software, you need to know what you're doing.
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I agree with this. Coz before I did flash my phone I really did intensive research reading everywhere in this section, finding tips though its true not all guide for noobs is really for noobs which you should have common sense on what you exactly need to do. Until recently a lot of guys (we should thank them) really dedicated their time doing the spoon fed procedures but unfortunately there seems still few people having the hardtime to flash FW, ROM Kernel and ended up bricking the phone.
Been that way for a long time, buddy. Never gonna change.
It would be nice if duplicate questions, cases of user error, etc. were deleted. But that would be way too much work.
I don't know who keeps on rating a 1 and tagging threads with useless tags just because he can but whoever you are, you should realize that this is a public forum. If the topic doesn't concern you, move along. I bet that this is the same guy that put a 1 rating on our Sensation on PH thread.
Get a life buddy. You have way too much free time on your hands.
darkmantra said:
I agree with this. Coz before I did flash my phone I really did intensive research reading everywhere in this section, finding tips though its true not all guide for noobs is really for noobs which you should have common sense on what you exactly need to do. Until recently a lot of guys (we should thank them) really dedicated their time doing the spoon fed procedures but unfortunately there seems still few people having the hardtime to flash FW, ROM Kernel and ended up bricking the phone.
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I agree on 70% on what you said, but....
A COMPLETE noob will not be able to know what those "common sense steps" mean. Nor will he know which terms and which threads apply to his process of flashing, nor which information to look for. He will follow the instructions to the letter, get stuck and then get frustrated when people jump on him and tell him he should've known he had to do this and that before starting.
So, of course he will be confused and ask questions on this forum, EVEN IF the information is available in thread #898761, page 46, post #197.
But yes, I agree. Most of the instructions are solid and most of them tell you to go to a specific thread if you don't know what something means. But not all.
Whats the point of this thread? I don't mean to flame or ***** or troll, really. But it's like saying "If wealth in the world would be more evenly distributed, children in africa wouldn't die from famine" and then you'd have 10 others nodding and saying "yeah"
yeah I agree with OP totally, we all know that and we all were faced with retards who can't google up words like "adb push". Even a noob can fire up google and read what this means, just like I did.
But it's the way it is, and you're not the first to complain about it. Still won't change a damn thing because those ppl we're talking about are the ones least likely to read this thread.
I know you said yourself this thread is for venting, but had I opened a thread each time I face-palmed because of stupid ppl then... ah well you get my point
just my 0.5$
cheers!
Vipeout said:
Whats the point of this thread? I don't mean to flame or ***** or troll, really. But it's like saying "If wealth in the world would be more evenly distributed, children in africa wouldn't die from famine" and then you'd have 10 others nodding and saying "yeah"
yeah I agree with OP totally, we all know that and we all were faced with retards who can't google up words like "adb push". Even a noob can fire up google and read what this means, just like I did.
But it's the way it is, and you're not the first to complain about it. Still won't change a damn thing because those ppl we're talking about are the ones least likely to read this thread.
I know you said yourself this thread is for venting, but had I opened a thread each time I face-palmed because of stupid ppl then... ah well you get my point
just my 0.5$
cheers!
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Yes the main thing is people should really learn to use the search bar at the top of every page. Its my best friend and has saved me when I got into a boot loop. Also if, for any reason whatsoever, you feel like your about to brick your phone by flashing a rom or a kernel or whatever, DONT DO IT. Plain and simple. DONT DO IT. You shouldn't be rooting if you don't hold the confidence to flash a kernel or rom and know your phone won't brick.
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