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Upgrading Tilt question

May i upgrade with Dutty's Official WM6.1 directly over original tilt rom 6.0?
It is better to flash with TYTN II rom before ?
Thanks

See the thread titled All Significant Kaiser Upgrading Links. Start Here! ? Read that!
DON'T FEED THE N00Bs. Teach them to read!!!

LOL, this is really starting to get good.

P1Tater said:
LOL, this is really starting to get good.
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I think we should all be posting a message like that at the end of each of our redundant assistance posts. It certainly gets the point across...

I agree. I think I really needed the smiles I get from this. man I am one dimented person.

P1Tater said:
I agree. I think I really needed the smiles I get from this. man I am one dimented person.
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It certainly gets the point across, and it's fun reading for all!
As long as we don't get truly insulting and we always give them links, I think it should be fine.
We'll see if other members think we're being too harsh as we continue

_Alex_ said:
It certainly gets the point across, and it's fun reading for all!
As long as we don't get truly insulting and we always give them links, I think it should be fine.
We'll see if other members think we're being too harsh as we continue
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And it's nice to see someone else join the club with me and tater
We can start rotating the flamethrower to make it fun for the whole family...

jarek91 said:
And it's nice to see someone else join the club with me and tater
We can start rotating the flamethrower to make it fun for the whole family...
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ROFLMFAO. Man if you guys could see my smile. My favorite so far has been "HEY FLAMEBAIT".

P1Tater said:
...man I am one demented person.
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Does this mean that your avatar is a real life picture of yourself? [I corrected the misspelling of demented]

NotATreoFan said:
Does this mean that your avatar is a real life picture of yourself? [I corrected the misspelling of demented]
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pretty close to it I hear.

_Alex_ said:
See the thread titled All Significant Kaiser Upgrading Links. Start Here! ? Read that!
DON'T FEED THE N00Bs. Teach them to read!!!
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him how to fish and he eats for a lifetime...
-Jay

i got the same question, flash a duty 6.1 over 6.0 rom? i tried reading but can't find a question to it. is is YES or NO?

kinvid said:
i got the same question, flash a duty 6.1 over 6.0 rom? i tried reading but can't find a question to it. is is YES or NO?
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no you cant flash dutty's 6.1 over a 6.0 rom. you either need some special hardware or you need a phone that is shipped with a 6.1 rom, which does not exist yet
this specific reason is why almost nobody uses dutty's 6.1 rom at all. if you take a look in dutty's thread, you will see hundreds of post of ppl who wish that they are able to use dutty's 6.1 rom.....if you had read a little more, you would find that dutty's rom is probably one of the least popular roms around here

sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?

kinvid said:
sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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Point #1: You are not "newer" than I am. If I can do it so can you.
Point #2: It is not a maybe but a DEFINITE need for you to read more.
Point #3: Car dealers come out with updated models of cars each year. Do you NEED to buy the new model each year? Flash a ROM, if you like it keep it if not try another one. You will find that even when you find the ROM of your dreams a master chef like Dutty comes along and makes the ROM you loved feel like you are running a triathlon in chain mail.
Ron <stepping of the soap box>

mark43 said:
Point #1: You are not "newer" than I am. If I can do it so can you.
Point #2: It is not a maybe but a DEFINITE need for you to read more.
Point #3: Car dealers come out with updated models of cars each year. Do you NEED to buy the new model each year? Flash a ROM, if you like it keep it if not try another one. You will find that even when you find the ROM of your dreams a master chef like Dutty comes along and makes the ROM you loved feel like you are running a triathlon in chain mail.
Ron <stepping of the soap box>
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point #1: i am newer despite the fact i joined before you. I joined in December and only browse through the forum just enough to decide if this phone is worth buying over an Iphone. in terms of flashing, I am new. Yes i can do it if you can, so encouraging of you.
point #2: Glad i found this forum, but I did not read enough to know how exactly how I can flash. i've been flashing satellite boxes for years so yes I definitely need to read more if i didn't know something so simple about flashing a ROM in a phone. I guess installling Windows Vista over XP on a desktop is no different than trying to install Mobile Windows 6.1 over 6.0 or over 5.0 DUH...i feel stupid, thanks for pointing that out
point #3: Not a good analogy, cars require monetary investment and undergo drastic changes typically every 4 years while cook ROM only your own "personal peference" and some good knowledge and understanding on how to flash. That is what i'm trying to do, I already know the procedures but if i get bash left to right by seniors just by asking one simple question in a thread i did not start, i'll go get help elsewhere.

kinvid said:
sorry for the wonderfulness of sarcasm, but I'm pretty new to this as I just got my Tilt a month ago and decided to customized my phone recently.... maybe I need to search more extensively through the "ROM Flashing FAQ for Newbies" thread to find out whether I can flash Dutty's new 6.1 ROM directly over my original at&t 6.0 ROM. Beside its fun, is it necessary to perform a ROM update whenever an "improved" cooked ROM is officially release or can I just find a popular tweaked out ROM and stick to it for the rest of year?
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Welcome to the wonderful world of sarcasm
Yes - you can flash Dutty's 6.1 rom (or any other 6.1) directly on a 6.0 rom.
No - you don't need to upgrade whenever a new rom comes out... only if you want to try new or better aspects of your rom, or if you become a flash addict like the rest of us.
Before you start make sure you have installed Hard SPL - if you can't get that flashed to your phone then don't go any further or you run the risk of bricking your phone.
Also, read the threads in the WIKI and all of THIS STICKY before you start. Even if some of them don't seem relevant to what you want to do they give you pointers to what can go wrong.
Lastly, when you flash, if you get problems such as no sound, camera not working, keyboard layout wrong etc do a search - most problems have been found before and can be easily resolved.

ach2 said:
Welcome to the wonderful world of sarcasm
Yes - you can flash Dutty's 6.1 rom (or any other 6.1) directly on a 6.0 rom.
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I have not posted much and this is the first warm, welcoming reply I ever got. I ask questions if and only if I can not find the answers to my own questions in these ridiculously amount of posts within pages of threads. Thanks for the kind reply.

I am new to flashing roms on the Kaiser as well, but I managed to read through a handful of postings to find out the steps and files necessary. All the resources are out there and they are easy to find. Just hope that you don't have an important incoming call before you install the 6.1 radio. That happened to me. Good luck and make sure you do your homework before you start.

mllittle said:
I am new to flashing roms on the Kaiser as well, but I managed to read through a handful of postings to find out the steps and files necessary. All the resources are out there and they are easy to find. Just hope that you don't have an important incoming call before you install the 6.1 radio. That happened to me. Good luck and make sure you do your homework before you start.
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LOL....incoming call...i waited til 3am to flash my phone. well it's all done and said. Just install hard spl and flash it with a 6.1 radio and Dutty's 6.1 ROM. Wow i like the cube function and phone is much faster. easier than I thought. flashing hour is up! back go sleep.

Which ROM is the fastest

Hello,
Since there are so many ROMS out there and some dated as far as last year, can anyone give me advice on the fastest available ROM with least pork fat in it?
For example my only use for the Kaiser is Exchange email and web browsing nothing else. I make calls, SMS etc from my iPhone and only use this phone for exchange email. So with this in mind what advice can you guys give me as to the fastest ROM available for this?
I currently have Duttys ROM of March 8th.
Much appreciated.

Why not check out the other thousand threads that asked the same question

raaj said:
Hello,
Since there are so many ROMS out there and some dated as far as last year, can anyone give me advice on the fastest available ROM with least pork fat in it?
For example my only use for the Kaiser is Exchange email and web browsing nothing else. I make calls, SMS etc from my iPhone and only use this phone for exchange email. So with this in mind what advice can you guys give me as to the fastest ROM available for this?
I currently have Duttys ROM of March 8th.
Much appreciated.
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I think Alex's is fast, so is Blackwood, Dutty, Panosha, Q-Mobile, Schaps, Sleuth, Vega etc, etc.
Do you know how I know this? Because I tried them all - instead of posting useless duplicate threads because I'm too damn lazy to do the work myself or my time is more valuable than yours etc.
Or, here's a tip, how about doing a search for some of the benchmarks which have been posted?

Why do people have the need to ask and not search?

raaj said:
Hello,
Since there are so many ROMS out there and some dated as far as last year, can anyone give me advice on the fastest available ROM with least pork fat in it?
For example my only use for the Kaiser is Exchange email and web browsing nothing else. I make calls, SMS etc from my iPhone and only use this phone for exchange email. So with this in mind what advice can you guys give me as to the fastest ROM available for this?
I currently have Duttys ROM of March 8th.
Much appreciated.
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First try all cooked Rom's and you will find it ...
dont just ask for opinion.
for me,i like dutty rom's all of it,but for now i'm using Hyper dragon

Maybe someone can run some bench marks on my cooked ROM's I don't think anyone ever has and I would love to know how they match up to other on the forum If you are going to run a benchmark on my rom's please benchmark the one I am about to release in about 10 minutes
thanks
Austin

austinsnyc said:
Maybe someone can run some bench marks on my cooked ROM's I don't think anyone ever has and I would love to know how they match up to other on the forum If you are going to run a benchmark on my rom's please benchmark the one I am about to release in about 10 minutes
thanks
Austin
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Has it been 10 min? I didn't see a post for your new ROM.
-McMex

austinsnyc said:
Maybe someone can run some bench marks on my cooked ROM's I don't think anyone ever has and I would love to know how they match up to other on the forum If you are going to run a benchmark on my rom's please benchmark the one I am about to release in about 10 minutes
thanks
Austin
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As a matter of fact: I DID test your 3.03 ROM. Compared to others it wasn't that superfast, at least: according to SPB Benchmark. But than again: this test doesn't seem to be very reliable for WM 6.1.
Will also test your new ROM (OR WAS THAT A JOKE???)

pietrucci said:
As a matter of fact: I DID test your 3.03 ROM. Compared to others it wasn't that superfast, at least: according to SPB Benchmark. But than again: this test doesn't seem to be very reliable for WM 6.1.
Will also test your new ROM (OR WAS THAT A JOKE???)
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Yeah after I posted I wasn't sure was he joking or not.
-McMex

Too much *****ing
This is a forum. People should be allowed to ask questions and ask the opinions of others. Some people are far to eager to do others down.
There are new ROMs coming out all the time. I have tried at least 20 since Christmas.
If he had done a search to find an answer to his question it probably would not have any relevant answers.
It is a perfectly valid question and as a member of this forum I for one do not mind answering it.
In my opinion . . . there is not much to choose between all of the 6.1 ROMs for speed. However, if you are not looking for all the whistles and bells that the Kaiser can offer, go for a Lite ROM. Certainly go for one without the Cube. If you ever intend to use video calling, go for the latest Dutty 6.1 ROM.
There, that wasn't too painful and hopefully I helped someone who asked a valid question in a public forum.

austinsnyc said:
Maybe someone can run some bench marks on my cooked ROM's I don't think anyone ever has and I would love to know how they match up to other on the forum If you are going to run a benchmark on my rom's please benchmark the one I am about to release in about 10 minutes
thanks
Austin
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I hope this isn't a joke! Austin, We;re waitin!

@cgjones - I agree there is too much bashing in the forum. My momma always told me that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
That being said....while this is a valid question to ask (what is the fastest ROM), it has been asked before...and not just once or twice.
This thread could have been easily avoided, or at least made a little more specific, by doing a simple search.
@raaj - use the search feature (the Google one, not the built in forum search) and type in "Kaiser fastest ROM" and you will find lots of threads, opinions, etc.

kwickone said:
@cgjones - I agree there is too much bashing in the forum. My momma always told me that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
That being said....while this is a valid question to ask (what is the fastest ROM), it has been asked before...and not just once or twice.
This thread could have been easily avoided, or at least made a little more specific, by doing a simple search.
@raaj - use the search feature (the Google one, not the built in forum search) and type in "Kaiser fastest ROM" and you will find lots of threads, opinions, etc.
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i concur..

cgjones said:
This is a forum. People should be allowed to ask questions and ask the opinions of others. Some people are far to eager to do others down.
There are new ROMs coming out all the time. I have tried at least 20 since Christmas.
If he had done a search to find an answer to his question it probably would not have any relevant answers.
It is a perfectly valid question and as a member of this forum I for one do not mind answering it.
In my opinion . . . there is not much to choose between all of the 6.1 ROMs for speed. However, if you are not looking for all the whistles and bells that the Kaiser can offer, go for a Lite ROM. Certainly go for one without the Cube. If you ever intend to use video calling, go for the latest Dutty 6.1 ROM.
There, that wasn't too painful and hopefully I helped someone who asked a valid question in a public forum.
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Thank You cgjones. There are too many smartasses around that post just to get their post count up and with egos I might add. For all you smartasses or rather asses I should say I have done searches but notice I ask for some particulars that would suit my needs? A search doesnt bring answers to my questions hence my question and opinions in the first place. There are FAST ROMS and there are even fast ROMS without all the junk. Thats what I wanted to know rather than do a search of the hundreds of threads here which I might add are confusing.

No its not a joke GF came over so things got put on hold as far as rom cooking boys and girls sorry I'll finish and release it sometime tomorrow night Its going to be based on the new 3.10 rom but with .dlls from the 3.08 rom the graphics on the 3.10 are super fast

austinsnyc said:
No its not a joke GF came over so things got put on hold as far as rom cooking boys and girls sorry I'll finish and release it sometime tomorrow night Its going to be based on the new 3.10 rom but with .dlls from the 3.08 rom the graphics on the 3.10 are super fast
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oh why do you temp us with such things...I can't wait

AllTheWay said:
oh why do you temp us with such things...I can't wait
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Me too man, I'll be flashing as soon as it comes out. I hope I don't get the stupid timestamp issue I'm having right now with this ROM!

austinsnyc said:
No its not a joke GF came over so things got put on hold as far as rom cooking boys and girls sorry I'll finish and release it sometime tomorrow night Its going to be based on the new 3.10 rom but with .dlls from the 3.08 rom the graphics on the 3.10 are super fast
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You are a tease.

austinsnyc said:
No its not a joke GF came over so things got put on hold as far as rom cooking boys and girls sorry I'll finish and release it sometime tomorrow night Its going to be based on the new 3.10 rom but with .dlls from the 3.08 rom the graphics on the 3.10 are super fast
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oh, im so happy to hear this. I'm going into withdrawl...

austinsnyc said:
No its not a joke GF came over so things got put on hold as far as rom cooking boys and girls sorry I'll finish and release it sometime tomorrow night Its going to be based on the new 3.10 rom but with .dlls from the 3.08 rom the graphics on the 3.10 are super fast
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So your GF seems to be more important than your friends here at xda...

Head to head comparisons/review of major cooked ROMs - anyone done one?

Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?

new_ppc_user said:
Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
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NOPE. Feel free to be the first.

new_ppc_user said:
Hello all,
Having recently upgraded my Hermes to a Kaiser (well actually a AT & T Tilt) and re-flashing it with Schaps 4.30 Rom i have since noticed a sharp decline in performance (compared with my Hermes).
This lead me to look around for something 'better' coming across Duttys cooked ROM and has prompted me to initiate this thread.
Has anyone done a 'review' of the major cooked ROM's out there or even better, put them head to head?
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NOPE. Feel free to be the first.
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Be aware that it will be your full-time job as new ROMs come out almost every 2-3 days.

well lets put it this way. im sure many of you have tried several different roms on your devices.
can anyone shed some light our input into the major rom players?

answer this question and you will get it
Do you like apple or orange ?
They are both fruit but you cannot head to head compare them.
Beside that newer rom is likely but not necessarily to be better. Try around with different Rom and radio to get your favorite one. Well, It takes about 15 mins to flash so you can pretty much try all the Rom in here in few days. In the end, if you are not happy , do some extensive research so you can brew your own.
Dutty Rom is popular and pretty suitable to start up.

aberz said:
answer this question and you will get it
Do you like apple or orange ?
They are both fruit but you cannot head to head compare them.
Beside that newer rom is likely but not necessarily to be better. Try around with different Rom and radio to get your favorite one. Well, It takes about 15 mins to flash so you can pretty much try all the Rom in here in few days. In the end, if you are not happy , do some extensive research so you can brew your own.
Dutty Rom is popular and pretty suitable to start up.
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i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications

new_ppc_user said:
i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
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Sleuth would also be considered a major player here...
In regards to what you want in a ROM, all signs are pointing to Dutty's except for the useful applications. Just add em yourself though...
His is the fastest ROM I have ever used for any device, including the Hermes...
However, opinions are like assholes....

new_ppc_user said:
i like both !! so that still doesnt answer my question.
unfortunately, i currently have a pretty hectic schedule so i cant really afford to flash and re-flash my unit all the time. in addition it would take quite a while as i have quite a few additional programs on there.
i am under the impression that Dutty and Schap and the two major players here?
things i need to consider:
- speed of operating system
- ease of use
- stability
- usefull applications
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So let me get this straight. You want someone else to do all the work and let you reap the benefits? I see now.
My God man. They cooked the rom. What more do you want? You want me to flash your phone for you? WOW.

P1Tater said:
So let me get this straight. You want someone else to do all the work and let you reap the benefits? I see now.
My God man. They cooked the rom. What more do you want? You want me to flash your phone for you? WOW.
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He's got a pretty hectic schedule unlike us.

oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?

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He's got a pretty hectic schedule unlike us.
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cuz all we do is spoonfeed

new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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No, I dont look for reviews of roms. I flash them and if I dont like them I flash a different one. I have literally tried every single rom (that is in English unlike ATW who even tries foriegn languages) to try and find the one that works best for me. I suggest you do the same and quit asking for someone to do the work for you. The reason I say this is that I can't tell you how many times this same question has been asked. You are definitely not the first nor will you be the last. It seems as though it comes up at least once a week. So, read the first post of the rom, if you dont like what you read or see then move on to the next. Either that or do as most of us do and flash it.

new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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We don't need to scour the internet looking for reviews. We just read the threads in the forum and test ourselves. All the information you will ever need is found in these forums.

P1Tater said:
No, I dont look for reviews of roms. I flash them and if I dont like them I flash a different one. I have literally tried every single rom (that is in English unlike ATW who even tries foriegn languages) to try and find the one that works best for me. I suggest you do the same and quit asking for someone to do the work for you. The reason I say this is that I can't tell you how many times this same question has been asked. You are definitely not the first nor will you be the last. It seems as though it comes up at least once a week. So, read the first post of the rom, if you dont like what you read or see then move on to the next. Either that or do as most of us do and flash it.
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Yup... with this guy... it's very easy to use PIM backup and your storage card to backup your vitals before flashing. Sure it's tedious, but that's how this all works. People will review different ROMS on different criteria and it's up to you to find what makes you happy.

new_ppc_user said:
oh please give me a break !!!!
the point of this thread is two fold. yes, i want to do as little as possible
however, i would like to ENCOURAGE the discussion of the different ROMs that are available so that WE as users can talk about what we like in the different roms we encouter with their good points and bad points.
and please, dont tell me you dont scour the internet looking for reviews ?
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Smart man , you want to pay the least to get the most .
1st fold
You want to do as little as possible, so we have to do more to cover your work ? > Fail
2nd fold
There is no "we" and "as users" , should be " I " " as a lazy leecher"
And there is also no point in promoting ROMs discussion. We can talk all day without coming up with any thing good but potential conflict.
> fail, again
I dont know about your schedule but my is also packed too ( ask a pre-med, senior Bio student) . And most of peeps here also get a thing call "life" . If I can do it , you can too. Flashing a Rom is not rocket science that would take a life time to do.
How about this, consider flashing your piece of device a relaxing activity for your break . I would be less pain and more joy. If you dont find flashing , trying and using Rom fun , why bother asking here.
p/s for the amount of time finish 2 posts , you could have already flashed a cool Rom lol.

I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I'm afraid the only way to work out the best ROM for you is to test them all. If a ROM is unstable, you'll be able to tell pretty quickly from scanning the thread and what is one man's "useful applications" is another man's "bloatware".
The best analogy I've seen is with cars - to some people the perfect car is a sports car, to others it's a people-carrier, everyone's needs and uses are different. Also, as most of the ROMs are built on the same two or three OS builds, you're comparing the cars with virtually identical engines, so differences will be minor*.
My suggestion is make a list of what you use on your phone, then decide if you want a fast ROM (in which case flash a lite ROM and add the bits you want via cabs) or an easy ROM (in which case flash a ROM that's got the most of the things on your list).
You will never get everyone to agree on the "best" ROM simply because there isn't one that is head and shoulders above the others*, just optimised by and for different chefs.
*No offence intended to the great chefs on this forum! I know how much work you must put into your ROMs and I'm not trying to belittle that, just get the point across.

Also, it doesn't hurt to take the little bit of time that is required to make an SDConfig.txt file for the User Customization that most of the ROMs utilize now. That in and of itself is a huge timesaver. Take advantage of that, and someone else also posted PIM Backup, which can also help aid in moving from one ROM to another.
Use one ROM for a week, see how you like it then move on if you want to. That's more or less what I've done. And I've found what I've liked.

JUst another case of someone wanting to be fed.

Was it Karhu who would do benchmarks of all the ROM's in the Hermes forum? Talk about intensive... but again, strictly numbers, meant as an informative comparison of different things.

I think I got your thoughts...
I wanna a ROM table for comparisons... I can say its very difficult to make
1) ROMs change every day... its a rough job to keep it update
2) ROMs are like taste. You like a XYZ ROM because its faster but a friend may like a BCD ROM because it runs that app faster.
3) There ia a lot of apps within those ROMs that make they different. Comparing works if all ROMs carried the same stuff.
4) There are no tops ROM... there are populars ROM
I'm looking to flash my kaiser too but I allways got confused too with different cooked ROMs.
I suggest you to read all of your interest, ask them for any detailed spec. Install the HardSPL for Godsake and try it.

Too much info?

I admit it! Im overwhelmed with all the information on this site. I would really appreciate the technical expertice of this helpful community. So far Ive installed HardSPL and im downloading roms from alex, faria, and thinkin about dutty's roms. Im researching on which radio version is the best for me and so far it looks like 1.47.30.10 from DR Puttingham's experience. Im also starting to understand that the best way is really to cook up your own rom but id rather start with a lite or clean version with great looks, speed, functionablitly. Im curious as to why I only see a few people cooking up roms when i know there are better chef's out there like...molski? again...what do i know..im just a noob.
so here i am asking the vast community their opinions of best of...
best chef? (not just for quantity but for quality)
best lite/clean rom?
best full rom?
most useful radio along with your location?
top useful programs?

cyberage29 said:
best chef? (not just for quantity but for quality)
best lite/clean rom?
best full rom?
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You know you're never going to get a proper answer to these as everyone has their own preference not mention they aren't gonna say one is better than the other... Why not just try them all and see what you like?
And I think most people don't cook their own ROMs cause:
1) They don't want to learn how to, or
2) They don't have the time, or
3) Somebody else is already doing the hard work (and doing it well..), so why bother?
Personally, I think I'm a combination of the 2nd and 3rd, which therefore makes #1 redundant (for me)..

if i were u i'd go to my closet and put my flamesuit on ....or hope that we're all in a good mood

bapssystupr3m3 said:
if i were u i'd go to my closet and put my flamesuit on ....or hope that we're all in a good mood
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I concur... I think somebody better close this thread before it becomes a BBQ here!!
Thank god its a weekend & only retards like us are here...

suntzu said:
I concur... I think somebody better close this thread before it becomes a BBQ here!!
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yay! bbq party FTW

okay ... first of all you should really think about what you post before you post.
You can't compare the chefs because each one invests there precious time into our community here (WITHOUT COMPENSATION) and does the hardwork for us of making a rom that is better than the piece of **** our carrier shipped us. So in my eyes they are all the greatest and bestest. Choosing a radio is a trial experience you have to find the one you like that best suites your location.
And if you don't like what other chefs are doing get the dumped rom for your carrier and work on it your self.
this by the way is the nicest reply you'll probably get (not unless someone just won the lotto or got laid or is stoned .. .in which case they won't be able to reply ...)
peace,
sire

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this by the way is the nicest reply you'll probably get (not unless someone just won the lotto or got laid or is stoned .. .in which case they won't be able to reply ...)
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And there it is... ROTFL!!

sorry
Ill take a rib!
sorry guys. im just trying to make sense of what to use. im basically trying to get some shot outs to some of your personal fave roms. id like a relatively clean version with some great apps and games. ill use spb mobile shell once im done.
can i always change my radio the way i do with the roms?

cyberage29 said:
I admit it! Im overwhelmed with all the information on this site. I would really appreciate the technical expertice of this helpful community. So far Ive installed HardSPL and im downloading roms from alex, faria, and thinkin about dutty's roms. Im researching on which radio version is the best for me and so far it looks like 1.47.30.10 from DR Puttingham's experience. Im also starting to understand that the best way is really to cook up your own rom but id rather start with a lite or clean version with great looks, speed, functionablitly. Im curious as to why I only see a few people cooking up roms when i know there are better chef's out there like...molski? again...what do i know..im just a noob.
so here i am asking the vast community their opinions of best of...
best chef? (not just for quantity but for quality)
best lite/clean rom?
best full rom?
most useful radio along with your location?
top useful programs?
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You are not the first, and wont be the last to ask these kind of questions "Best,top,most"
Here are 3 outcomes:
OMG WTF BBQ stupid question
MY IS TEH LEETEST ( ego boost )
There is no best, only what you think is best.
but most of people have their brains working will either go 1 or 3. So, put on your flame suit and start flashing.

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Ill take a rib!
can i always change my radio the way i do with the roms?
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as long as its compatible w/ rom ur using; wm6 rom requires a wm6 radio and wm6.1 rom requires wmk6.1 radio. having said plz read the kaiser wiki and the stickies. trust me all u ask is there.

cyberage29 said:
Ill take a rib!
sorry guys. im just trying to make sense of what to use. im basically trying to get some shot outs to some of your personal fave roms. id like a relatively clean version with some great apps and games. ill use spb mobile shell once im done.
can i always change my radio the way i do with the roms?
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Yes . and no .
99% radio out there are safe and you can freely switch around.
But, there is 1 radio ( kinda newest ) will keep you stuck. I dont wanna tell you cuz I want you to find out. More fun.
Please go read. This is the most simple thing that you shouldve known. Q

Thanx! U guyz r gr8

how come no one noticed.......the radio he mentioned and dr puttingham's rom......are both for the hermes, not the kaiser

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how come no one noticed.......the radio he mentioned and dr puttingham's rom......are both for the hermes, not the kaiser
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Oh **** , LOL , didnt notice
You da man , I award you with the title "XDA chief detective "

*NEW* Dutty ROM *NEW*

Asked a few times on Dutty's April thread and also sent a PM (although I didn't expect a reply from the PM)
My question is/was:
Is there going to be another Dutty ROM for the Kaiser? or is the April one the last. As there was a few minor problems with it there was mention he was going to do another but no one seems to be saying least of all Dutty - course I did read he was chilling for a bit.
//Before people whine and moan.. I did ask many times on the thread and searched for the answer this is my last resort!
Cheers!

why are you such a tool i've never posted once but people like you piss me off what kind of stupid question is that

This thread can be closed if you ask me....
What's the point in creating a new thread containing only a question if somebody is going to release a new ROM!?
People who are cooking ROM's are doing this for free in their spare time... ..they even got lives besides the XDA forum.
If there's a new ROM you wil see it in the thread of the Kaiser ROM Development.
Do us a favour and change the misleading title of your thread dude...

I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here

You got to be kidding!
If you want to know what the cook is making for dinner then ask the cook. Asking the people in the super market won't help. If the cook doesn't answer you then just wait to see what he puts on the table. Unless your paying for the meal then be polite and don't bother the Chef. In short one would assume by your question that you have your pants custom made due to the sher size of your balls and I would bet their brass as well.

Infuruno said:
I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here
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LOL cheers for the reply mate.
seriously not bothered about the 'numptys' who will and have replied with the predictable blurb... lol just sheep imo
/can be closed now again cheers for the reply Inf

ericsundancekid said:
why are you such a tool i've never posted once but people like you piss me off what kind of stupid question is that
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ROFL
I have quoted you just so we can save your fantastically crap frst post! rofl!!
ahhh man classic numpty! can't stop laughing!

edbutler said:
If you want to know what the cook is making for dinner then ask the cook. Asking the people in the super market won't help. If the cook doesn't answer you then just wait to see what he puts on the table. Unless your paying for the meal then be polite and don't bother the Chef. In short one would assume by your question that you have your pants custom made due to the sher size of your balls and I would bet their brass as well.
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Well said.

digitalfreeze said:
Well said.
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it's true

damn dude, you got me. I'm definitely a "humpty" cause I'm the idiot that decided to ask a retarded question and reply to my own thread four times in half an hour cause no one else wants to even bother looking at your useless garbage. go make your own roms if you're gonna ask stupid questions. later, "chap"

So I tried reaching into dutty's mind..couldn't come up with any info...he must have his tin hat on

Moderators please lock or remove this.
thx.

Lean said:
LOL cheers for the reply mate.
seriously not bothered about the 'numptys' who will and have replied with the predictable blurb... lol just sheep imo
/can be closed now again cheers for the reply Inf
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He did say in one of the threads that he was getting a new device so development might slow down on his kaiser roms. If I was reading between the lines I would guess he's looking to move on. But I'm not a mind reader and so will take whatever he says literally, but really it's none of my business whether he continues or not.
If you'd have read the threads properly you would have noticed him mentioning this, he has done so more than once. Anyway, take it easy, but really this goes against the grain of the community, i.e. 'giving', none of the cooks owe us anything so we shouldn't be chasing them up with whether they're releasing a new ROM not.

Any new foreign movies?
I wanna watch a good foreign movie, any recommendations?

zoserguerrero said:
I wanna watch a good foreign movie, any recommendations?
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Ah ok...well if we are going to discuss something worthwhile... then by all means.
MY girlfriend and I have gotten into watching alot of asian horror, and have branched out into other countries as well.
Check out "El Orfanto", The Orphanage, a very good ghost story from Spain.
If you haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth, or really anything by Guillermo del Toro, you should check it out.
I must say that most of the asian horror is sort of "out there" and doesn't make as much of an impact to western sensibilities... good acting, pacing, but much left unexplained. One that isn't exactly "horror" but just an awesome, messed up story...see Oldboy, a korean film.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! My head hurts from reading this thread... why did I bother?
Now I'm wasting time posting on it. If this thread were a banana, I would squish it. Comprehensively.

Dutty and a few others, are kinda sick of Kaiser & will be jumping ship shortly. Don't expect Great Kaiser roms forever. Not with newer & greater toys right around the corner. Many of us will be leaving shortly.

Septastrum said:
He did say in one of the threads that he was getting a new device so development might slow down on his kaiser roms. If I was reading between the lines I would guess he's looking to move on. But I'm not a mind reader and so will take whatever he says literally, *but really it's none of my business whether he continues or not.
If you'd have read the threads properly you would have noticed him mentioning this, he has done so more than once. Anyway, take it easy, but really this goes against the grain of the community, i.e. 'giving', none of the cooks owe us anything so we shouldn't be chasing them up with whether they're releasing a new ROM not.
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lol spit it out will you!
I never said it was my business, and maybe it 'goes against the grain' but it was a perfectly legitimate question and was asked clearly with nothing other than, I'll wait if there is another on the way.. rather than install the 'last' ROM.
What's hilarious is that my question was answered quickly and concisely by Infuruno (page 1 post 3!) - now that's all that was required simply put and job done!.
Infuruno said:
I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here
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And a lovely tongue in cheek ending!
*talk about the rest of you all making a mountain out of a mole hill! LOL

GSLEON3 said:
Dutty and a few others, are kinda sick of Kaiser & will be jumping ship shortly. Don't expect Great Kaiser roms forever. Not with newer & greater toys right around the corner. Many of us will be leaving shortly.
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Indeed I hear you probs be going the same way in a few months

duttythroy said:
Hi guys , I'm abandoning this release for now as it seems there still issues with this build, not sure if its the newer wm6.1, I havent tried 5.2.19212 as yet, but there are random freezes with these build , i know people are mentioning it could be hardspl but I cant see how is that have to do with it, My thoughts it could be related to the dynamice pagepool setting with also with our customcache settings,
I fixed most issues so far, including contacts and other stuff, but dont feel its still stable.
I'm also looking to get a new device soon,
So for now I will not support this thread, also I'm also busy at work again, thanks for supporting guys, I will be at the background trying to do one more release, but need to investigate the random freezing we experiencing now with these new builds
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duttythroy said:
Hi Guys i have been really busy agauin at work, i'm starting with the new Rom, not really happen with last one, one of my worst rom, but its a learning experience, seems there is more to wm6.1 now especially with the Diamond build, also I'm very interested in getting a new phone so not really motivated in cooking roms for kaiser no more since HTC let us down. as soon as i near completion I will let you guys now.
As said before The hybrid wm6.1 roms are my favourites just that the new drivers wont work, so I will be playing agin with some new builds and if we still got issues i might do another hybrid with all updated apps, my apologies, i would recommend if u still want to use one of my stable roms, still use hybrid april 01 or hybrid 29 thanks guys
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duttythroy said:
Guys I'm packing up kaiser cooking and cooking for diamond who wants to join me, You will get wm7 on it as soon as it launch
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