old style sms and mms - Palm Treo 750

is there a way to switch back to the "old style" sms msging system? the palm threader is nice and all but no programs support it.

SurWicked said:
is there a way to switch back to the "old style" sms msging system? the palm threader is nice and all but no programs support it.
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Why would you possibly want to?
People have extracted the program from the Treo rom in attempts to get it to work on non-treo's, it's one of the nicest things Palm has put on the 750.

Merlyn_3D said:
Why would you possibly want to?
People have extracted the program from the Treo rom in attempts to get it to work on non-treo's, it's one of the nicest things Palm has put on the 750.
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Agreed. I couldn't live without threaded messaging...SPB Shell supports the threaded messaging app. Which programs are you talking about?

I don't like it. I would prefer it the "old" way also. Or at least integrated into the default messaging app. I don't like having to go to two different places for SMS and email. Threaded is all right, but two apps is downright ****ty.

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wm6.1 separate mms and sms folder

i just wanted to know how i could make my mms and sms folder two separate folders. i dont really like how it is combined...its quite annoying
thanks in advance for the help
me too
yea me too im running windows mobile rom 6.1 ranju's build. nice build but want mms and sms to be separate when you get loads of convos it gets messy so want to split um.
hows it done
fireicer said:
yea me too im running windows mobile rom 6.1 ranju's build. nice build but want mms and sms to be separate when you get loads of convos it gets messy so want to split um.
hows it done
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You would need a different version of the SMS/MMS Arcsoft client.
eboy44 said:
i just wanted to know how i could make my mms and sms folder two separate folders. i dont really like how it is combined...its quite annoying
thanks in advance for the help
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As stated, you'd have to install a different version of the arcsoft software that does this. Microsoft (Arcsoft???) has decided that combined is better and all the newer versions have went this way (personally I like it combined myself, but it does catch me off guard when I get what I think is an SMS with no text then notice the tiny pic icon and realize its really an MMS). Just like the standard with WM6.1 is the threaded messaging (my opinion on that is still out. In some ways I like it, but other ways I hate it. So still trying to get used to it and not just turn it off (yet)).
Basically like back on WM5 where the left soft key in Arcsoft was to create a new message. Then WM6 changed that to be Delete and people screamed. But its still that way today and now most are used to it (or don't know any different).
Ive researched this topic quite a bit and have found that it cant be done unless the version of arcsoft mms is cooked into the rom. If it isnt, even after installing the older version over a new one, the combined messaging AND threading will still be in affect, it might also throw off your text and mms messaging entirely.
I may be wrong, but this is what Ive read in other threads and forums. If it can be done, Id love to know, because shortcuts to new mms wont work without this. and more importantly for, sms chat will stop intercepting my mms mesages
Michaelr219 said:
Ive researched this topic quite a bit and have found that it cant be done unless the version of arcsoft mms is cooked into the rom. If it isnt, even after installing the older version over a new one, the combined messaging AND threading will still be in affect, it might also throw off your text and mms messaging entirely.
I may be wrong, but this is what Ive read in other threads and forums. If it can be done, Id love to know, because shortcuts to new mms wont work without this. and more importantly for, sms chat will stop intercepting my mms mesages
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You are spot on! If you like it splitted up then you need a rom that does this for you, if I can make a small suggestion, give my rom a try (SMS & MMS are split up!) it's called DCSv1.7
the problem is PIM backup doesnt restore your MMS if you used a rom before with different sms and mms folders so now i dont have none of my MMS backed up on the tilt... sad
Separate!
drutort said:
the problem is PIM backup doesnt restore your MMS if you used a rom before with different sms and mms folders so now i dont have none of my MMS backed up on the tilt... sad
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the same case, with PIM Backup I lost my mms coz of inexistent folder, I want my mms back!!!
MMS problems
I downloaded a sms threaded text cab for my att tilt- my problem is that i can't send or receive MMS messages anymore. i've been looking for days to find a way around this because i love the threaded text, but i NEED my MMS capabilities. can you point me in the right direction or do i just need to abandon my threaded txt and revert back to the original to get my MMS back?
KID44 said:
I downloaded a sms threaded text cab for my att tilt- my problem is that i can't send or receive MMS messages anymore. i've been looking for days to find a way around this because i love the threaded text, but i NEED my MMS capabilities. can you point me in the right direction or do i just need to abandon my threaded txt and revert back to the original to get my MMS back?
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You need to run connection wizard, or your connection settings cab again after installing the mms cab.

WM 6.1 and another ROM

Hi there - is it possible to implement a WM 6.1 version over an existing ROM version ?
or in other words - I`m using Quentin`s qmobile 1.2 but wanna have the wm 6.1 on the kaiser ...
Thanks
Myrin
This has been asked before. It's a definite no. Features, only thing different is sms threading, which you can add palm threaded sms to your rom. Some other minor options, but nothing too big.
The SMS from 6.1 is by far much better than Palm Threaded SMS
Thomassster I `m not quite shure if understand what you are saying - Do I have to wait for Quentins version of WM 6.1 ?
Ignore the first response - I guess he didnt understand the question.
If you have hardspl'd your device, then you can flash any rom you like.
But if going to a 6.1 rom, you will need to also flash a 6.1 compatible radio rom as well.
ericc191 said:
The SMS from 6.1 is by far much better than Palm Threaded SMS
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MS Threaded SMS:
-You can't see the time of messages older then 1 day anymore.
-You can't see which delivery report is for which message (if you send 3 messages to 1 number and the second wouldn't be delivered, you couldn't check that.)
-You can't disable the threaded sms function.
Palm Threaded SMS:
-If you want to see older messages in a thread, the app opens the whole conversation and with a several thousends of messages it kind of gets stuck.
-The sms file which contains the messages gets HUGE. With 5000msg the file is 20MB. (the main reasion I wan't to dump this app)
The MS app is more stable and faster, but it just isn't finished yet. You can't call it much better then the Palm threaded sms, cause it misses core functions.
Dinamitci said:
MS Threaded SMS:
-You can't disable the threaded sms function.
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You can with this cab - whilst still keeping SMS notifications.
Thanks to clickdeath for the regedit.
Dinamitci said:
MS Threaded SMS:
-You can't see the time of messages older then 1 day anymore.
-You can't see which delivery report is for which message (if you send 3 messages to 1 number and the second wouldn't be delivered, you couldn't check that.)
-You can't disable the threaded sms function.
Palm Threaded SMS:
-If you want to see older messages in a thread, the app opens the whole conversation and with a several thousends of messages it kind of gets stuck.
-The sms file which contains the messages gets HUGE. With 5000msg the file is 20MB. (the main reasion I wan't to dump this app)
The MS app is more stable and faster, but it just isn't finished yet. You can't call it much better then the Palm threaded sms, cause it misses core functions.
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MS threaded:
-Slower then Palm dunno why you think MS is faster
-Ugly font.. cant resize unless you have email configured
+pictures are full screen
+audio only clips (voicemails)
-log style
+today plugin works pretty well
-no pictures of contacts for new txt
Palm threaded:
+Faster then MS by far.
-MMS wont work on newer htc devices.. basically anything after the tytn-orginal(att 8525)
+better face icons
+better logging
+picture of contact when getting new txt
-log size
-today plugin sometimes funky
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bottom like palm has better features but until someone can make threaded sms+mms work in it ill have to stick to the MS threaded
unwired4 - so I can`t just hardspld, flash a new radio rom and then take Quentins Rom ???
Is that possible ?
Or must the ROM be a "WM 6.1 ROM" ?
Thanks
myrin
cuboosh said:
MS threaded:
-Slower then Palm dunno why you think MS is faster
Palm threaded:
-MMS wont work on newer htc devices.. basically anything after the
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I would use Palm's but I just can't stand not having MMS not working. A couple of weeks ago I was able to get the MMS fixed but it only works with the older ArcSoft MMS. I can give you steps and the package that you need to get it work. If I can find it again.
peter7 said:
unwired4 - so I can`t just hardspld, add a new rom and then take Quentins Rom
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NO! You can not flash 2 roms... Your rom holds 1 rom
Wait for Quentins WM6.1 rom or flash someone elses WM6.1 rom.
cuboosh said:
MS threaded:
-Slower then Palm dunno why you think MS is faster
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When your log file is small, Palm is faster yes. But if you have a huge logfile with thousends of messages, MS is way faster for sure, it just doesn't get slower, while Palm's app is getting slower with each byte.

SMS/MMS Threading

Dear All,
I searched for this, but couldn't find any reference to this particular issue. I tried all the latest 6.1 ROMs and it looks like a WM thing.
All ROMs, have this new "FEATURE" which let's you view the SMS as a thread of messages instead of one at a time.
This is great, the only drawback is, that I can no longer move threads or indvidual SMSs to different folders; even the option to manage folders is dimmed (also the move option).
The only work-around that I have found, is to delete the message, go to the trash, and move it from there. However, there is still no way to create a new folder.
Any Ideas/Suggestions/Solutions for this issue ?
I too miss the split SMS/MMS. I wonder if it is possible for our favorite chef to put ArcSoft MMS 4.2.8.1 in his latest ROM and have it work properly?
This would make it possible to run Vito SMS-Chat and receive MMS properly. If Dutty's latest did run so damn good I would revert back for this reason alone.
I remember communicating with a very talented individual named Shogunmark. I'm SURE that this individual could separate the SMS and MMS. I don't think it was via XDA though. Seems I met him through another site.
Check out this thread. Simple registry hack to disable threaded SMS in WM 6.1.
I've done a quick search that didn't really turn up any results, so I wonder if this is even possible. Is there a cab file available that will replace the regular sms with the wm6.1 sms on a wm6 device?
InGeNeTiCs said:
I've done a quick search that didn't really turn up any results, so I wonder if this is even possible. Is there a cab file available that will replace the regular sms with the wm6.1 sms on a wm6 device?
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In order to run Threaded SMS on WM6, you need to install a 3rd party program such as PalmSMS.

Treo 750 Threaded SMS vs. Standard WM6.1 Threaded SMS

Which is better: Treo 750 Threaded SMS or Standard WM6.1 Threaded SMS?
palm for the win
from Palm company ... you can download .cab file for instalation on Treo or another PPC
hi
cuboosh said:
palm for the win
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whats the diffarance?
vasek said:
from Palm company ... you can download .cab file for instalation on Treo or another PPC
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Can you send me the link to that download
chestvrg said:
Can you send me the link to that download
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http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
Is there any way to have it show up on the HTC Plugin?
The only thing that I don't like about the palm threaded is that you can't just start typing something and then the program will look for results like windows threaded does...other than that Palm threaded rocks.
libal said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
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and what exactly is that?
the threaded sms application from the 750v?
from what I read elsewhere, it seems as though MMS is not included in the threading for WM 6.1, just SMS
as far as functionality, the palm version is better. but it would be great if there is a way to backup the messages other than just by copying the file/database itself.
also, i can confirm that MMS works both in the palm version and in the wm6.1 version. for wm6.1, the settings were automatic, the palm version needs manual configuration.
HANDS DOWN Palm THREADED
Its much faster and eats up less system resources
It just doesnt work on my KAISER
I have tried several diff roms and different versions including shogunmarks
but i always get
OUT OF MEMORY error when trying to send a MMS
WHAT GIVES
Im using Garmin dk1.2
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated
feel free to shoot me a PM
I have Palm Threaded running just fine on my Tilt. I'm currently running Dutty's 29APR ROM, and have also had it running smoothly on the L26 V9 ROM.
How do you back up one screen??
I got this working great on my samsung i620(windows mobile 6 standard), but I got one question, how do you go back one screen? After I reply a message, I can not go back out to the main screen to select another message from another person. I have to close the program then re enter to access to other messages.
Thanks
tramane said:
HANDS DOWN Palm THREADED
Its much faster and eats up less system resources
It just doesnt work on my KAISER
I have tried several diff roms and different versions including shogunmarks
but i always get
OUT OF MEMORY error when trying to send a MMS
WHAT GIVES
Im using Garmin dk1.2
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated
feel free to shoot me a PM
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no solution for this yet. i have used the threaded text cab on my Kaiser and ATT Fuze and just ignore the mms feature
Installing the messaging app on the Storage Card?
libal said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
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FYI: The second link appears to be broken.
I have a Treo 750 with the Palm messaging app on it in the \Windows directory, with my current enormous 12MB \Windows\PalmMsgV001 file...
(I really don't want to ditch all my SMS messages yet, and I have not found an easy way to selectively delete or archive just a portion of them. Know of a way?)
*** Does installing the messaging app you refer to on my 2 GB storage card allow me to get the 12MB file out of main memory and onto my storage card?
I have been looking for a way to do this for some time. I have hunted through the registry to no avail for some type of path reference for the message store file. I have been wondering if the messaging app just expects the PalmMsgV001 file to be located in the same directory as the app is installed in... Thus, to relocate the message store, install the app on the storage card. (???)
Can the messaging app be installed on the storage card and allow me to put the SMS message store file there also?
Steve

SMS/MMS

Hi,
Is there any sms/mms app for polaris that is like the iphone's one? or similar atleast.
Thank you.
You want threaded view, or just an iCrap look in general?
To tell you the truth I have no idea what is a 'threaded view'. I just need one which I can see both sent and received messages and have a touch interface so it can be comfortable to be used with my thumb.
Can you help?
The threaded view is basically is the same as forum threads, or like chats... do you use gmail? If you do, than there isn't a better example...
There's a program for that, but WM 6.1 uses it as default, so I think it's better to upgrade it...
About the usability... am I the only one who can use it whith a thumb? (if you wan't i can make a video for proof)
Well.. Yes, i need a threaded view application.
Isn't there any third party application with a threaded view.
If you know any please do tell
There should be CAB file lurking around the forum, check in development... or just do a google search... something is bound to turn up...
BTW, I don't recomend 3rd party apps for things like this... they only take space, and program memory... also I don't like overlays for existing programs...
I've been searching for a cab file with the wm 6.1 threaded SMS app for the Polaris and haven't been able to find one anywhere. I've tried third party apps for threaded SMS and they all have their floors - if I don't find a cab I might get tempted to just flash mine with a WM6.1 rom...

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