Some Strange behaviors with WM6 - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

Ok I dont know if its just me with my 2 wizards, but for some reason one thing i have noticed in the newer roms is a soft key lag. Like where the contacts and calendar keys are at. There is like a second or half a second delay. I know i did not have this problem on my other WM6 builds. And also On some of the Roms It takes about 10 revolutions for the windows folder to show up. On older roms it would take maybe 2 or 3 revolutions. I am on TNT 2.0 and i have noticed this problem on this one and also when i was on NBD 7.2 . Im gonna try 7.3 and also pandora 3.2 and see how those roms are. Also why do people use smartskey? What is the purpose of that. THank you very much guys

One thing that I've seen in a number of the 318 ROMS that Ive tested is that my clock seems to rendomly jump back to some date in 2006 (and reset itself to 12:00). Has anyone else seen this, and if so, is there a reasonable fix?

I like smartkey because it remaps the control of the volume slider to scroll function.
It also has the ability to fire off and set OMAP if you don't want to use BatteryStatus or XCPU Scaler.

I like using battertystatus cause of the battery and scaling. And also sometimes after a reset my phone goes into 24hr format.

deviusdragger said:
Also why do people use smartskey? What is the purpose of that. THank you very much guys
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Biggest reason for me to use Smartskey is that you can press and hold the right soft key and it will close the current app. Also like how it remaps the slide switch on the side for volume and paging. I turn off the D-Pad function on WM6 though as I like the smartdialer in WM6 (although with the reTOUCHed dialpad may go back to the D-Pad since it works differently).

Ok well that clears up somethings. But on to the original topic. does anyone else see that lag that i was talking about. Im on NBD 7.3 and its gone. But i was on tnt and it had it.

buckaroo said:
One thing that I've seen in a number of the 318 ROMS that Ive tested is that my clock seems to rendomly jump back to some date in 2006 (and reset itself to 12:00). Has anyone else seen this, and if so, is there a reasonable fix?
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Yes, it just happened to me yesterday, after changing the region settings and have a SR

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Issue i got with ALL roms...

no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?
kingofall00 said:
no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?
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Sounds like bad keyboard?
this is the weird thing, keys work fine when i first install a fast rom. it seems like phone slows down and lags a bit. im 100% keys work fine as they do when i go to a 6.0 rom. it is with 6.1 that gives me the problems.
srry i should have said with 6.1 roms.
Ive noticed the same thing with 6.1 roms.... And really the threaded SMS, and maybe a slightly quiker boot time is all i notice better on the 6.1 roms
ok well maybe u can help me with my other issue.
how do you find out what hardSPL you have on your phone?
i dont remember what one i put on there. and i tried putting new 3.56 just want to make sure it is on there and was put on right.
try disabling xt9....that made a huge difference for me...
I disabled XT9, and while it made texting easier... I always have to proof read before i send.
O ther wis it look s like thi s.....
thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.
kingofall00 said:
thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.
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actually what will help the most is to set suggested words to 0, using kaisertweaks or advanced config, but of course that answer should have been easy to find as i've answered it personally at least 20+ times. Also disabling autocorrection seems to help too, but i think that the suggested words is the most significant improvement.
I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.
psuarmy said:
I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.
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try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release
mbarvian said:
try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release
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There is no "on the fly" word suggest or spell check with this ROM.
Problem with keyboard and screen
I too have had problems with the hardware keyboard. I have tried 3 different roms, all with the same problems. Disabling T9 does help, but doesnt fix it entirely. I have also had a problem with screen taps not being recognized.
In both instances, it appears the phone is busy running another process and it takes a few seconds for it to focus on the program I have running. I have checked taskmanager when this happens and the only running program is the one im using.. Perhaps a program that runs on startup in the background?

Texting - word catchup

I've noticed that when I'm texting using the keyboard, it can take a few seconds for the words to catch up to what I am typing. Its weird, I'll be finished typing my thought, but I have to wait for all the words to show up after I'm done. I've turned off the autocorrect and other options thinking it was the cause .. but to no avail. Is there a fix for this?
Thanks
also want help with this
I have the same problem. A friend of mine with a non-HTC, WM6 device also has the issue too. My guess is it's just WM6 being slow and not the fault of the device.
Same thing here...
but i think it happens to be due to the lag.
Because ill get a text message...and ill open it...and it will be on the screen.
Then i will open my keyboard it would switch to landscape and i will start typing, and if i look up, it would be as if the words were trying to "catch up" to my typing. But after like 5 secs it would be back to normal.
Maybe just the lag that comes out of openning the keyboard?
I think it's the lag too. Because if this happens when I notice my device is running slow. After I do a hard reset though, when it's the fastest, i don't have this problem.
The other day I typed a six page paper on my phone and there was no lag; I had just done a hard reset.
you guys try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
It worked for the Tilt. I haven't tried i yet on the Fuze but it was a game changer for the Tilt.
I would blame wm6.1 for the lagginess since all the phones i've used have this sort of issue. Add to that tf3d and your processor is working ot.
umma have to try this on my Spint Touch Pro
bugsykoosh said:
you guys try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
It worked for the Tilt. I haven't tried i yet on the Fuze but it was a game changer for the Tilt.
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anyone tried this yet?
By the way my Fuze (with stock ROM) doesn't have a delay. It's one of the few things I really noticed on the change from the Tilt so I don't have a need to try it...sorry but hope this helps
This is likely entirely related to the amount of 'stuff' you have going on in the background, on a clean ROM you'd be hard pressed to get this to happen. The more stuff you pile on, the less responsive it's going to be. I didn't notice this behavior for the short time I was running the stock Fuze ROM, though, so a 3rd party program may be the culprit.
I think its because the OS give priority to redrawing the screen, and your text message comes second. Every WinMo phone I have ever used will lag a little bit when chaging the screen.
bugsykoosh said:
you guys try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
It worked for the Tilt. I haven't tried i yet on the Fuze but it was a game changer for the Tilt.
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lbhocky19 said:
anyone tried this yet?
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I just installed the cab and everything seems to be a lot faster. Once I get typing more during the day will be the real test but just some messing around typing words I didn't notice the delay. So far so good
Thanks for the link
Is it just me (showing my age) or is the font in a threaded conversation REALLY small? Anybody know where/how to enlarge it a little?
TIA!
hopper13 said:
Is it just me (showing my age) or is the font in a threaded conversation REALLY small? Anybody know where/how to enlarge it a little?
TIA!
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It is pretty small if you ask me. I've found that rotating your thumb "around" the center circle hardware button zooms in / out on the text. It doesnt work so 100% smoothly (WinMo again probably lol) but it does let you enlarge text. you can also set your typing text and system font to be larger elsewhere but I dont recall off hand.
thisperishedmin said:
It is pretty small if you ask me. I've found that rotating your thumb "around" the center circle hardware button zooms in / out on the text. It doesnt work so 100% smoothly (WinMo again probably lol) but it does let you enlarge text. you can also set your typing text and system font to be larger elsewhere but I dont recall off hand.
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Duh, never thought to try zooming! lol Thanks.
Creel said:
I just installed the cab and everything seems to be a lot faster. Once I get typing more during the day will be the real test but just some messing around typing words I didn't notice the delay. So far so good
Thanks for the link
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Do you own a touch pro?
Tell us,is it worth installing this cab?
Are you really seeing an improvement?
i just installed it it definetly seems quicker
of course when sliding out the keyboard there will be catchup just because its working extra but after a few seconds its all good and stays fast
Kostas-Pro said:
Do you own a touch pro?
Tell us,is it worth installing this cab?
Are you really seeing an improvement?
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Yeah I have a Touch Pro and I think its worth it. I've been texting all day on it and the catch up has been improved greatly.
Yea I also just did the suggested tweak and now it takes about half or less of the time to catch up. The lag is usually only a few characters now.

Disable volume buttons when device is locked

does anyone know how to disable the volume buttons when the device is locked? this seems somewhat obvious, im not sure why the volume buttons are not disabled...
im using the at&t rom that came on the phone
http://www.ppcmobility.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381
this is supposed to work but it did not for at least one person...
didnt work for me, weird tho how this is such a simple requested feature, and HTC choose to not get it sorted out.
The whole point of the lock, is to disable all keys...surely??
dont know how many times ive put the TP in its case, only to pull it out, and see its almost silnt, as the volume buttons have been triggered.
shoddy....
Ace78611 said:
does anyone know how to disable the volume buttons when the device is locked? this seems somewhat obvious, im not sure why the volume buttons are not disabled...
im using the at&t rom that came on the phone
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If you dont mind switching app for locking, TouchLock Pro 2.0 does a great job for me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
I've got a stock HTC ROM (v1.90.00.00) and when it's asleep it doesn't respond to the volume buttons.
Cheers,
Steve.
For some reason I thought I posted this before, but a quick search doesn't find it, so I must have forgotten..
To enable the behavior you desire:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DisableVolumeKeyDuringLock"=dword:1
Da_G said:
For some reason I thought I posted this before, but a quick search doesn't find it, so I must have forgotten..
To enable the behavior you desire:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DisableVolumeKeyDuringLock"=dword:1
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Noob question here. I could not find this in reg editor... Do I have to create this as new code in HKCU\ControlPanel\keybd?
Yes, the key is not there by default, you have to create it
New dword.. DisableVolumeKeyDuringLock.. value 1.. hex or decimal doesn't matter as 1 is the same in either
I could just make a .cab.. 1 sec
Thar she blows!
Thanks! I will try the cab after I try to do it in reg edit. Kinda new at this stuff, so I am trying stuff out. The cab will be the back-up if I fail...
Tried this cabfile in my O2 Orbit II but no joy with it.
It'll only work if your keypad.dll looks for this key, the only one I know for sure does is the HTC Fuze, since that's the one I disassembled to find the key
Da_G said:
It'll only work if your keypad.dll looks for this key, the only one I know for sure does is the HTC Fuze, since that's the one I disassembled to find the key
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Oh okay, that explains why it's not working on my Touch Pro.. Anyone know the equivalent solution for a Touch Pro that's not a Fuze? >_>
If you could post your keypad.dll I can take a look at it..
this would be really handy to have, saves havin to install more software to attempt to stop it, a simple reg file is waaay better
StevePritchard said:
I've got a stock HTC ROM (v1.90.00.00) and when it's asleep it doesn't respond to the volume buttons.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Same here, no issue with it. My stock rom:1.90.401.1
hello people.i have the same problem with my htc p3470. i ll try the cab file and return to inform u
edit: no luck unfortunately....this is really annoying..
Works for me. Have the elite rc3 rom. Just had to soft reset after applying the reg edit for it to work. Thanx a million
Thx man it worked using the cab file
My phone is
1.90.405.1 WWE
1.0225.19
52.33.25.17u
Just installed the CAB on my TP - after turning the phone off and back on it works.
TP( ex vodafone)
ROM 5.05.405.1 WWE
Radio 1.11.25.01
Protocol 52.58.25.30U
i experienced this on my TouchPro as well - i ended up flashing other roms to it which made the problem go away.
the fact that this occurred out-of-the-box left a nasty taste in my mouth tbh smelt like the whole stock rom was a half-arsed rush job thank god for the likes of NRG.

SIP menu takes a long time to open

I have a Gene (p3400i) device.
Sometimes, my 'sip menu' (the one that pops up when you tap the arrow next to the keyboard icon) takes very long to open... up to a minute some times.
I don't know what causes this behaviour - sometimes its after I install a new sip and sometimes after I uninstall one. Nothing will bring it back to normal, not even a soft-reset.
However, if I make a full backup with SPB backup, hard-reset and restore the problem is solved. Despite the fact that SPB backup restores every part of the registry and memory.
Any suggestions? Is this common? Does someone know the exact cause? And can it be solved with out a tedious hard-reset and restore?
Most recently it began when I used a registry cleaning program to clean out some junk registry items.
all my devices have been like that since wm5
Rudegar said:
all my devices have been like that since wm5
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Have you ever found a way to solve it? Apart from the backup-and-restore thing I pointed out?
nop my devices been like that directly from hardreset all of them
directly from the store too with the rom they came with
Rudegar said:
nop my devices been like that directly from hardreset all of them
directly from the store too with the rom they came with
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You mean that all your devices have taken 60s+ for the sip menu to pop up even without you doing anything (installing/uninstalling SIPS or REG edits)?
That's odd. I have what is probably the slowest winmo device around (the htc gene) and on the stock rom the SIP menu still usually popped up in under 5s. Its just that sometimes, this behaviour would suddenly change....
Speed up SIP display and overall performance increase
This has been discussed many many times.
Since WM5 I do the following and it works extremely well, I wonder why it isn't more popular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432966
clausg said:
This has been discussed many many times.
Since WM5 I do the following and it works extremely well, I wonder why it isn't more popular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432966
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Wow! I had no idea about this!
Actually, come to think about it, the backup and restore routine that worked for me essentially amounted to this I guess...
Still, thanks!
Damn this!
I'd personally much rather be able to hide the menu all together. I really never change my input methods, so having it there and hitting it accidentally is really just a pain in the a**.
So, basically what I'm asking is if there is a way to *hide* the menu chooser all together?
Idealy I'd like to do away with it, and have it moved to the Start > settings> menu. that way there's no making any mistakes.
See my post from a couple weeks ago for reference.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4137470&postcount=288

[ROM][WWE][Nov. 27, 09] Solace v4 Alpha - Energy Edition! (WM6.5 build 21864)

Hey guys,
As some of you might know, I've been working on Solace v4 for quite some
time now. Well, now I finally have a stable version with some bugs. The
thing is, I haven't had any time recently to go through the ROM and pick out
bugs, except for the few noticeable ones, so I've uploaded Solace v4 Alpha
for anyone who wants to test .
I will be creating a new thread with more information when the stable, non-alpha version comes out.
For now I'll tell you that it is Windows Mobile 6.5 with Manila 2D and just the basic programs. Screenshots can be found here.
Thanks guys!
Please note that some bugs are: Manila 2D Sounds page isn't working, PTT button is not linked correctly, and SRS WOW HD is not configured correctly
Download:
http://www.multiupload.com/6GR1QZ8TM4
Keep up the good work,looks very nice,I enjoyed a lot Solace 3.1...I hope you will finish soon this ROM...
Perfect timing, I have my favorite " stable " roms ( one of which was 3.1 ) to use during the business week , but love to try new roms over the weekend. Will flash and let you know if I find anything. Thanks for the hard work.
Damm,
was checking your site some while to find out when Solance v4 (Alpha) would be released..
now this is it, dl now.
thanks
Fantastic!
Seems like years since 3.1.........
On the download now.
I´m testing yout ROM
It's like centuries passed since v3.1
Looks promising. Images are interesting and it seems to be another "professional" ROM for everyday work. Maybe this will be the reason for me to not trying to cook again
DL now and testing in some moment. (Have no free time to flash and test and flash and test and cook and flash...)
Thanks, mbarvian !!!
Have had it on for a few hrs now and it really looks nice. AE Button took care of assigning button 6 to comm manager and Weather4me. Still trying to get WKtask to play nice with 6.5 , Excluding shell32.exe doesn't seem to be working.
Also the screen seems to be very insensitive to taps and touches. Tried increasing sensitivity with Kaiser Tweaks but still requires multiple taps and a really firm touch to open things sometimes. The taskbar works great as does the M2D slider with a light tap, it just seems to be the main screen. But I am still tweaking the setup, so I am not prepared to blame the rom for this.
Other than that everything seems to be working great.
Glitches so far
Hey Mbarvian
Been running a few hours now and a couple of things I've noticed.
SMS - not working. Sent messages remain unread. I don't know if they are sending, but I'm getting no replies (and I am very popular so there must be a fault!)
On startup 'messaging' is displayed in the taskbar where 'start' would normally be. Don't know if this is related to the above
The M2D music tab doesn't seem to function - it hangs on searching but doesn't find my music. The 'library' soft key doesn't work and the options under menu don't turn on shuffle or repeat or go to audio booster.
Power button/Backlight issue - It's been a while since I've had this issue on a ROM, but when I press the power button to bring the phone out of sleep the screen flashes on but then returns to sleep - I have to press again. As I'm sure you know this problem was around a while, but solved in the end - I don't know how!
I've installed and run lots of applications with no problems, but TomTom 7 refuses to install - it hangs after I select the install location. This happens whether I select device or storage card.
Voicemail number doesn't configure in the dialer (just being picky now)
Red end button doesnt return to M2D home when pressed (I know you are a perfectionist!)
Volume control isn't available under notifications - had to install 'setvolume' and map.
That's it for now! - I'll have to reflash to another ROM until there is a fix for SMS bug as need this working. Be waiting to flash back after though.
I flashed stock ROM and radio before flashing - radio updated to the same as my signature.
hey man, nice to see u got ur alpha booting again... Im sure its much more improved than the one i tried out
if i get the time, i might give it a test, but no promises
keep up the good work and hope u accomplish ur goal of perfection
Another Solace Rom
Will try it out later today
Well been using for almost a day now, I can confirm all that brandall has pointed out, except I am not getting the double push to wake up bug.
I too flashed stock before flashing and unfortunately SMS is a biggee for me also, my kids seem unable to ever dial a phone, so SMS is the only way they communicate with me. Because of course walking from room to room in the house is too much of an effort when you can just text from the bedroom to the kitchen. But off-topic
Will need to switch for now but will be back when sms is fixed to explore further and again, thanks much for the effort, all the chefs put in a lot of time and it is appreciated.
little review
As everyone was saying the text messages don´t work for me either. This isn´t a big deal for me because I don´t text much anyway. I can confirm that everything brandall reported doesn´t work for me either including the double power button push. I had the same issue with Solace 3.1 ever since I started using it so I kinda got used to it already.
However, I was unable to start the camera or bluetooth.
Please someone confirm that this isn´t just my fault.
Before flashing v4 alpha I flashed Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2.
Still love this ROM and will use it untill the final v4 is out :-D
...ohh...very big problem is SMS all day I´m waiting for my test sms...unfortunately sms still doesn´t arrived thereby this ROM is for me unusable
and I agree with brandall
So I respect your hard work.
Wow guys sorry for putting out a version with so many bugs. Ill try and fix them but some of them like the power button issue I have no clue on. If any chefs would like the share some solutions to these problems, please don't hesitate to speak up
Thanks for the feedback though
I'm always interested in your work, but reading SMS issue, I have to hold back for awhile. no offense, but SMS is primary for me.
One question, you mentioned WM 6.5 but the screen shot shows Start Menu & Setting look like WM6.1?
Seems the M2D you use is not latest with weather on Home screen. Is that by choice?
Hi,
I'm really excited about this, I put reply here so I can set the Thread Subscription and get all new replies to my inbox, do not know any other way of doing it other than writing a message.
I would love to test this one but unfortunately too busy at work now - can't wait for the full edition, I haven't used stayed with any other rom other than the solace 3.1 since I started to learn stuff from this site. so thanks !
Sorry for adding some more but found out that the sound control isn´t working In the Settings tab in Manila after clicking on the sounds icon, only blank menu pops up.
Also the battery indicator is showing only the decimal value like 100%, 90% 80% ... not showing the exact value so for example from 60% it jumps straight to 50%.
Opera browser 9.7 doesn´t even load, moreover it freezes the phone. However the Opera Mobile 10 Beta and also Opera Widgets work flawlessly.
The power button issue seems to be happening on more than just your ROMs and what I´ve found it´s Microsoft´s fault - here but the suggested cab doesn´t fix anything, at least not for me
The solution is simply holding the power button a little longer (which I cannot blame any chef for not doing this for me every time I need it ).
Mbarvian, please don´t take this in a bad way, I appreciate your work and since Solace 3.1 haven´t found anything better. Just trying to help...
I'm having the same errors as with v3 with sound, text/mms, random resets, browser doesn't function at all, sound icon still doesn't work, can't remap buttons, etc
I appreciate Mbarvian's efforts and when the Rom is ready I'll try to use it again but some of us can only wait so long, and unfortunately using a ROM where text msging doesn't work isn't possible.
I have the correct and updated SPL/radio as well.
mbarvian said:
Wow guys sorry for putting out a version with so many bugs.
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There's really no need to apologise! We appreciate your efforts.
If you knock up an SMS fix I'll jump back on the ROM to further test - I need SMS working though due to the masses of girls that text me.... I wouldn't want to let them down...
Or maybe I made that up.
Look forward to your update!

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