SIP menu takes a long time to open - General Topics

I have a Gene (p3400i) device.
Sometimes, my 'sip menu' (the one that pops up when you tap the arrow next to the keyboard icon) takes very long to open... up to a minute some times.
I don't know what causes this behaviour - sometimes its after I install a new sip and sometimes after I uninstall one. Nothing will bring it back to normal, not even a soft-reset.
However, if I make a full backup with SPB backup, hard-reset and restore the problem is solved. Despite the fact that SPB backup restores every part of the registry and memory.
Any suggestions? Is this common? Does someone know the exact cause? And can it be solved with out a tedious hard-reset and restore?
Most recently it began when I used a registry cleaning program to clean out some junk registry items.

all my devices have been like that since wm5

Rudegar said:
all my devices have been like that since wm5
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Have you ever found a way to solve it? Apart from the backup-and-restore thing I pointed out?

nop my devices been like that directly from hardreset all of them
directly from the store too with the rom they came with

Rudegar said:
nop my devices been like that directly from hardreset all of them
directly from the store too with the rom they came with
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You mean that all your devices have taken 60s+ for the sip menu to pop up even without you doing anything (installing/uninstalling SIPS or REG edits)?
That's odd. I have what is probably the slowest winmo device around (the htc gene) and on the stock rom the SIP menu still usually popped up in under 5s. Its just that sometimes, this behaviour would suddenly change....

Speed up SIP display and overall performance increase
This has been discussed many many times.
Since WM5 I do the following and it works extremely well, I wonder why it isn't more popular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432966

clausg said:
This has been discussed many many times.
Since WM5 I do the following and it works extremely well, I wonder why it isn't more popular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432966
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Wow! I had no idea about this!
Actually, come to think about it, the backup and restore routine that worked for me essentially amounted to this I guess...
Still, thanks!

Damn this!
I'd personally much rather be able to hide the menu all together. I really never change my input methods, so having it there and hitting it accidentally is really just a pain in the a**.
So, basically what I'm asking is if there is a way to *hide* the menu chooser all together?
Idealy I'd like to do away with it, and have it moved to the Start > settings> menu. that way there's no making any mistakes.
See my post from a couple weeks ago for reference.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4137470&postcount=288

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Why do WM6 ROM's revert to 24 hour time?

Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it? I've tried just about every ROM on here and it happens with all of them... All you cookers out there are doing awesome work, but I was curious whether anyone else had this problem. I can't tell if an application is causing it, I don't think that's the case. Even when I set regional settings to US it still happens after a day or so and once it does it won't return to 12 hour time. Any ideas?
fix the registry before you flash it and it won't
dchoward1977 said:
Does anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it? I've tried just about every ROM on here and it happens with all of them... All you cookers out there are doing awesome work, but I was curious whether anyone else had this problem. I can't tell if an application is causing it, I don't think that's the case. Even when I set regional settings to US it still happens after a day or so and once it does it won't return to 12 hour time. Any ideas?
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Crossbow Reloaded is set to h:mm:ss so its not military time by default. I think some are that way since the default base roms seem that way. I modified the faria base so the region was US and not military time by default.
Is there a list of all known registry tweaks (preferably with ones that work with WM6) somewhere that I've missed? Is this issue only fixable by changing this registry setting prior to a flash or can it be done after the fact? Thanks for all your help.
I'm not sure what you are asking... If you are on a ROM that defaults to military time, then just change it to h:mm:ss via Settings > System > Regional Settings > Time. In the drop down for the time format on the right side of the dropdown there are arrows. click the up arrow a couple of times and you will see the non-24 hour ones. Choose it and you are done. I've never seen it switch back after doing this on any WM6 rom, so no registry hacks are needed.
i use the following keys with my kitchen. I believe mun's latest rom is set to US 12hour by default but i'm not sure since i use these to force it
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls\overrides]
"IDate"="0"
"SDate"="/"
"SSDte"="MM/dd/yy"
"STFmt"="h:mm:ss:tt"
"STime"=":"
mfrazz nailed it. I wasn't aware of the other settings in the drop down menu. When I'd click on it it'd only show 2 options, it never occured to me to try scrolling through. Duhh... Only had my Wizard for a month now, came from modding Moto's so still getting familiar with the Windows Mobile OS. Should have known it was something so blatently obvious, thanks a lot everyone. Much appreciation and respect.
dchoward1977 said:
mfrazz nailed it. I wasn't aware of the other settings in the drop down menu. When I'd click on it it'd only show 2 options, it never occured to me to try scrolling through. Duhh... Only had my Wizard for a month now, came from modding Moto's so still getting familiar with the Windows Mobile OS. Should have known it was something so blatently obvious, thanks a lot everyone. Much appreciation and respect.
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+ 1, thanks for the info.

Is is it just me???! [BeastyLeo latest rom]

Hi BeastyLeo,
I just flashed the latest release and i'm having lots of trouble The rom looks great and i so badly want to use it, but dont knw if i'm jinxed or something :-/ Please help me!!!!
1. The incoming phone call graphics is all messed up. The caller's picture and the caller info gets rendered 20-30 pixels below the top of the notification box and the bottom section gets cut off...
2. All the applications running started to behave crazy after a while. WpTask was active, and this is what happened - The task icons used to appear on the top bar (for example Activesync's icon), but the text used to be missing. When i brought up the context menu by clicking and holding the task, the rollout menu didnt list the name of the task again! I had options like Close, Terminate (with no Task names next to it like it would normally appear), and I couldnt kill the tasks at all! Even after i went into default memory manager of wm6, i still couldnt end the tasks. Only option was a reset....
3. The back button in the phone app comes with the sound, and now that slows it down for some reason
thanks!!!!
San
Ohhhh.... this is realy weird
Did you install the ROM with default options, or did you change anything?
This is horrible!
dreamtheater39 said:
Hi BeastyLeo,
I just flashed the latest release and i'm having lots of trouble The rom looks great and i so badly want to use it, but dont knw if i'm jinxed or something :-/ Please help me!!!!
1. The incoming phone call graphics is all messed up. The caller's picture and the caller info gets rendered 20-30 pixels below the top of the notification box and the bottom section gets cut off...
2. All the applications running started to behave crazy after a while. WpTask was active, and this is what happened - The task icons used to appear on the top bar (for example Activesync's icon), but the text used to be missing. When i brought up the context menu by clicking and holding the task, the rollout menu didnt list the name of the task again! I had options like Close, Terminate (with no Task names next to it like it would normally appear), and I couldnt kill the tasks at all! Even after i went into default memory manager of wm6, i still couldnt end the tasks. Only option was a reset....
3. The back button in the phone app comes with the sound, and now that slows it down for some reason
thanks!!!!
San
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Hi Leo,
Thanks for your quick response!
I didnt do anything with the rom before flashing. The only thing though, was i didnt flash the radio file as i have 1.15 and i find it stable. The Tasks problem keeps happening, i had to roll back now to one of your earlier versions which works fine though....
Thanks, and i really appreciate both your commitment and great work!
San
If it's that bad I will try to do a bug release in a view days.
My harddisk of my laptop crashed and currently I'm trying to recover the data first. I feel sorry for you and I hope I can fix it asap.
-I noticed a view things with initflashfiles.dat after I decompiled our own ROM.
-Also PocketCM I'm not realy happy with, I think I'm going to take that out.
-Office I changed for our previous one.
Well... I'm looking into it.
Cheers,
Leo
dreamtheater39 said:
Hi Leo,
Thanks for your quick response!
I didnt do anything with the rom before flashing. The only thing though, was i didnt flash the radio file as i have 1.15 and i find it stable. The Tasks problem keeps happening, i had to roll back now to one of your earlier versions which works fine though....
Thanks, and i really appreciate both your commitment and great work!
San
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Laurentius26 said:
If it's that bad I will try to do a bug release in a view days.
My harddisk of my laptop crashed and currently I'm trying to recover the data first. I feel sorry for you and I hope I can fix it asap.
-I noticed a view things with initflashfiles.dat after I decompiled our own ROM.
-Also PocketCM I'm not realy happy with, I think I'm going to take that out.
-Office I changed for our previous one.
Well... I'm looking into it.
Cheers,
Leo
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Thanks so much Leo! I wish you luck on your hdd recovery meanwhile ;o)))
Cheers & take care,
San
Hi, i have the same problem in phone operation so that i have to use another one. One thing still in dark: when finished uprom progress, i check phone with my Exec close position but it was hanged the screen very dark, have to SR the PDA again working. I don't understand why.

TouchFlo3D conflicting with QuickMenu/SmallMenu

Anyone had any luck getting eithe of these working alongside TF3D?
The task switching doesn't work, most the time instead of taking you to the app you click on, it drops you into TF3D. Everything else works apart from this (the bit I use most). With TF3D turned off, it works fine.
I've using a trial of Wisbar Advance Lite for now, see if I get used to it's different way of doing it, but at leat it seems to work.
Anyone had any luck, or else just seeing the same behaviour?
I've got the same problem with Quickmenu v2.7 i could'nt switch between tasks either.
Also from the close apps menu there an items called "start" and you cannot close it that annoys me a bit to.
I don't use it for now untill i find a better app or newer version of Quickmenu.
Start.exe is I believe linked to TF3D, but even setting it to hide in QuickMenu didn't help, the same thing still happens. Still, nice to have confirmation it's not just me.
Wisbar Lite seems ok, but it would still be nice to have QuickMenu or SmallMenu back...
damn i love quickmenus hopefully someone gets it to work i want this phone once its out
has anyone tried it lately or have it working?
mr_Ray said:
Start.exe is I believe linked to TF3D, but even setting it to hide in QuickMenu didn't help, the same thing still happens. Still, nice to have confirmation it's not just me.
Wisbar Lite seems ok, but it would still be nice to have QuickMenu or SmallMenu back...
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Start.exe is Manila and if you end this it restarts back your tfl3d.
I can confirm that sometimes some tasks are dropped right back to the touchflo3d screen but on a few occasions only. I have noticed that if you click on them longer, it finally restores the application.
I have since switched to wisbar advanced because of the other benefits and mainly fancy stuff not to mention to use some of TP's power it has a lot.
mr_Ray said:
Start.exe is I believe linked to TF3D, but even setting it to hide in QuickMenu didn't help, the same thing still happens. Still, nice to have confirmation it's not just me.
Wisbar Lite seems ok, but it would still be nice to have QuickMenu or SmallMenu back...
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I had no problems hiding start.exe. Just make sure that after adding to the exclude list you select 'hide both' radio button (I hope I remember the terms correctly)
I can confirm that sometimes some tasks are dropped right back to the touchflo3d screen but on a few occasions only.
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Same behaviour for me.
I had no problems hiding start.exe. Just make sure that after adding to the exclude list you select 'hide both' radio button (I hope I remember the terms correctly)
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Yes, it's 'Both not' and you have to scroll down to see it...
andrukit said:
Start.exe is Manila and if you end this it restarts back your tfl3d.
I can confirm that sometimes some tasks are dropped right back to the touchflo3d screen but on a few occasions only. I have noticed that if you click on them longer, it finally restores the application.
I have since switched to wisbar advanced because of the other benefits and mainly fancy stuff not to mention to use some of TP's power it has a lot.
I had no problems hiding start.exe. Just make sure that after adding to the exclude list you select 'hide both' radio button (I hope I remember the terms correctly)
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wisbar advanced isnt free though :/

Issue i got with ALL roms...

no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?
kingofall00 said:
no matter what rom i try to use, ( i got tilt by the way) when i send sms or just type anything with the keyboard it doesn't always register all my keys. i press them firm and slow and yet it doesn't Always take the key i pressed. have to wait a min or two. any way to fix this?
right now im using viper rom.
any one else get this problem?
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Sounds like bad keyboard?
this is the weird thing, keys work fine when i first install a fast rom. it seems like phone slows down and lags a bit. im 100% keys work fine as they do when i go to a 6.0 rom. it is with 6.1 that gives me the problems.
srry i should have said with 6.1 roms.
Ive noticed the same thing with 6.1 roms.... And really the threaded SMS, and maybe a slightly quiker boot time is all i notice better on the 6.1 roms
ok well maybe u can help me with my other issue.
how do you find out what hardSPL you have on your phone?
i dont remember what one i put on there. and i tried putting new 3.56 just want to make sure it is on there and was put on right.
try disabling xt9....that made a huge difference for me...
I disabled XT9, and while it made texting easier... I always have to proof read before i send.
O ther wis it look s like thi s.....
thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.
kingofall00 said:
thank you . i tried that, maybe i need to make sure most if not all programs are closed. thanx.
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actually what will help the most is to set suggested words to 0, using kaisertweaks or advanced config, but of course that answer should have been easy to find as i've answered it personally at least 20+ times. Also disabling autocorrection seems to help too, but i think that the suggested words is the most significant improvement.
I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.
psuarmy said:
I have the same problem with my tilt. Dutty 6.1 hybrid. My problem seems to be limited to a slow space key though. so texts look like:
thisi s howm any of myt exts look.
I am going to try some of the suggestions and see what works.
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try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release
mbarvian said:
try installing this cab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/59325516/b1bb4ea1/DuttyThroys_Disable_XT9.html
although i'm not sure it will work on his 29th release
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There is no "on the fly" word suggest or spell check with this ROM.
Problem with keyboard and screen
I too have had problems with the hardware keyboard. I have tried 3 different roms, all with the same problems. Disabling T9 does help, but doesnt fix it entirely. I have also had a problem with screen taps not being recognized.
In both instances, it appears the phone is busy running another process and it takes a few seconds for it to focus on the program I have running. I have checked taskmanager when this happens and the only running program is the one im using.. Perhaps a program that runs on startup in the background?

Another tweak to really speed up the TOUCH PRO

Hi, I've posted this in lowyat.net forum, but I wish to post this here as well, because I think this is a very significant tweak. Anyways, this method was originally found in this forum, just that I think no one suggested this method to speed up the Touch Pro.
Here comes the tweak:
I've been facing this issue where the SIP menu (aka input menu), takes like 2 seconds to popup when you want to switch the input method, making me wonder if I didn't manage to press the little triangle... My old PDA didn't have such an issue.
So after some searching, I found this:
give it a shoot , Get a registry editor ,
1. Export HKCR\CLSID (will save to a *.reg file)
2. Del or Rename HKCR\CLSID
3. Import the backup of HKCR\CLSID
Turn off your device about 15 sec and reset
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...t=301433&page=1
And yup, it works!! The SIP menu is now very responsive, and the system is now faster, and more responsive. Games do not lag anymore, especially the old ones.
Anyway, I didn't have to reset to see the effect.
In that thread, someone suggested the renaming method. Actually I used that method, but found that I can't rename the CLSID back because the system created another one. Luckily my Resco Registry Explorer allows me to copy and paste the keys from the old folder into the new folder. If not, it'll mean another hard reset. And one more thing, DO NOT SOFT RESET BEFORE YOU GET THE CLSID BACK!! "Turn off" in the thread means sleep, cuz unlike our TP, old PDAs cannot really be "turned off". It's best to backup your PDA before performing this procedure.
Anyone tried this fix?
SIP changing is really quick now. The device seems to be faster,but maybe it's a "placebo effect". Thanks for the tip,something helps this.
Some magic. It really works.
Thank you.
Thats Awesome
Wow! This tweak works perfect! BIG THANK for posting this here!
Btw,I know about this already few years,from that time I have tested HTC Himalaya,but I never tried it till now.
well, i think it works.
but i am not sure.
like mentioned in this thread, it could be a placebo effect.
cause i have not reset my TP for a while.
and after this tweak you have to reset, and after a reset the TP is always a little bit faster.
but if you aplly this tweak as instructed, nothing can go wrong so......
if you don`t try you`ll never know
groofoo said:
well, i think it works.
but i am not sure.
like mentioned in this thread, it could be a placebo effect.
cause i have not reset my TP for a while.
and after this tweak you have to reset, and after a reset the TP is always a little bit faster.
but if you aplly this tweak as instructed, nothing can go wrong so......
if you don`t try you`ll never know
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As I said,SIP changing is really fast now,so at least one benefit you get. Before was 3-5 seconds,now <1s.
sorry to be a bother. but with PHM regedit i held my cursor over the CLSID key in the registry rather than making a backup. I did an export. stupidly I deleted the key instead of renaming it. now when i try to import the key back in, first off the import choice in tools is greyed out and when i try restore and selecting the file I get "error". I'm hoping if all CLSID's are the same someone would be kind enough to bail me out by uploading their CLSID backup.
thanks in advance
-N
update: false alarm, solved it.
I too did this tweak, and did notice that in my threaded SMS, opening the QWERTY had an immediate response. I'm about 2 hours since I've done it, so I will see how this is going this time tomorrow. I hope this is perminant, and I see this response delay with the input method gone forever.
THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
Awesome post for someone new to this forum!! Thanks a lot! System does seem faster. I have an old game, Warfare Inc, that I still like to play once in awhile. Hasn't run smoothly on my TP until now.
I tried this but all hell broke loose! now my tp wont even start.. so im guessing something went terribly wrong.. now i have to hard reset the thing. and loos all my stuff in there.
at first everything was ok! but later I spoted that GPS reception was totally lost - no fix enymore! Reinstaling NETCF3.5 seems to fix it.
novakry said:
sorry to be a bother. but with PHM regedit i held my cursor over the CLSID key in the registry rather than making a backup. I did an export. stupidly I deleted the key instead of renaming it. now when i try to import the key back in, first off the import choice in tools is greyed out and when i try restore and selecting the file I get "error". I'm hoping if all CLSID's are the same someone would be kind enough to bail me out by uploading their CLSID backup.
thanks in advance
-N
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Here you go
does it work on htc diamond? was wondering if anyone experiences the lag when typing with phone keypad.. the words 'take their time' to appear.
I tried and my TP wouldn't boot. Had to hard-reset. I made sure the CLSID key was re-created before I did a soft-reset.
Hmm, what does this tweak actually do? export and import your registry settings?
I'm unclear as to how that's making anything better?
this also hosed up my TP. Wont boot. Have to restore it now errrr
Those with "hosed" TP's make sure you really export the reg file, and not copy/paste. I could not find the option in the reg part of Total Commander so I used TRE, another free reg edit tool found on this forum many years ago Please search for it as it is so simple to use. Would have uploaded for you, but am not using my regular pc
I think that we don't even need to export and import the reg key. It seems to me like only rename the key (ex CLSIDold) and renaming it back (CLSID) then shut down for some seconds, works too.
It looks like working to me that way. Now SIP change takes one sec.
WOW !!!

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