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Asked a few times on Dutty's April thread and also sent a PM (although I didn't expect a reply from the PM)
My question is/was:
Is there going to be another Dutty ROM for the Kaiser? or is the April one the last. As there was a few minor problems with it there was mention he was going to do another but no one seems to be saying least of all Dutty - course I did read he was chilling for a bit.
//Before people whine and moan.. I did ask many times on the thread and searched for the answer this is my last resort!
Cheers!
why are you such a tool i've never posted once but people like you piss me off what kind of stupid question is that
This thread can be closed if you ask me....
What's the point in creating a new thread containing only a question if somebody is going to release a new ROM!?
People who are cooking ROM's are doing this for free in their spare time... ..they even got lives besides the XDA forum.
If there's a new ROM you wil see it in the thread of the Kaiser ROM Development.
Do us a favour and change the misleading title of your thread dude...
I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here
You got to be kidding!
If you want to know what the cook is making for dinner then ask the cook. Asking the people in the super market won't help. If the cook doesn't answer you then just wait to see what he puts on the table. Unless your paying for the meal then be polite and don't bother the Chef. In short one would assume by your question that you have your pants custom made due to the sher size of your balls and I would bet their brass as well.
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I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
p.s. Now rum b4 thew angry mob gets here
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LOL cheers for the reply mate.
seriously not bothered about the 'numptys' who will and have replied with the predictable blurb... lol just sheep imo
/can be closed now again cheers for the reply Inf
ericsundancekid said:
why are you such a tool i've never posted once but people like you piss me off what kind of stupid question is that
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ROFL
I have quoted you just so we can save your fantastically crap frst post! rofl!!
ahhh man classic numpty! can't stop laughing!
edbutler said:
If you want to know what the cook is making for dinner then ask the cook. Asking the people in the super market won't help. If the cook doesn't answer you then just wait to see what he puts on the table. Unless your paying for the meal then be polite and don't bother the Chef. In short one would assume by your question that you have your pants custom made due to the sher size of your balls and I would bet their brass as well.
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Well said.
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Well said.
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it's true
damn dude, you got me. I'm definitely a "humpty" cause I'm the idiot that decided to ask a retarded question and reply to my own thread four times in half an hour cause no one else wants to even bother looking at your useless garbage. go make your own roms if you're gonna ask stupid questions. later, "chap"
So I tried reaching into dutty's mind..couldn't come up with any info...he must have his tin hat on
Moderators please lock or remove this.
thx.
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LOL cheers for the reply mate.
seriously not bothered about the 'numptys' who will and have replied with the predictable blurb... lol just sheep imo
/can be closed now again cheers for the reply Inf
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He did say in one of the threads that he was getting a new device so development might slow down on his kaiser roms. If I was reading between the lines I would guess he's looking to move on. But I'm not a mind reader and so will take whatever he says literally, but really it's none of my business whether he continues or not.
If you'd have read the threads properly you would have noticed him mentioning this, he has done so more than once. Anyway, take it easy, but really this goes against the grain of the community, i.e. 'giving', none of the cooks owe us anything so we shouldn't be chasing them up with whether they're releasing a new ROM not.
Any new foreign movies?
I wanna watch a good foreign movie, any recommendations?
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I wanna watch a good foreign movie, any recommendations?
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Ah ok...well if we are going to discuss something worthwhile... then by all means.
MY girlfriend and I have gotten into watching alot of asian horror, and have branched out into other countries as well.
Check out "El Orfanto", The Orphanage, a very good ghost story from Spain.
If you haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth, or really anything by Guillermo del Toro, you should check it out.
I must say that most of the asian horror is sort of "out there" and doesn't make as much of an impact to western sensibilities... good acting, pacing, but much left unexplained. One that isn't exactly "horror" but just an awesome, messed up story...see Oldboy, a korean film.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! My head hurts from reading this thread... why did I bother?
Now I'm wasting time posting on it. If this thread were a banana, I would squish it. Comprehensively.
Dutty and a few others, are kinda sick of Kaiser & will be jumping ship shortly. Don't expect Great Kaiser roms forever. Not with newer & greater toys right around the corner. Many of us will be leaving shortly.
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He did say in one of the threads that he was getting a new device so development might slow down on his kaiser roms. If I was reading between the lines I would guess he's looking to move on. But I'm not a mind reader and so will take whatever he says literally, *but really it's none of my business whether he continues or not.
If you'd have read the threads properly you would have noticed him mentioning this, he has done so more than once. Anyway, take it easy, but really this goes against the grain of the community, i.e. 'giving', none of the cooks owe us anything so we shouldn't be chasing them up with whether they're releasing a new ROM not.
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lol spit it out will you!
I never said it was my business, and maybe it 'goes against the grain' but it was a perfectly legitimate question and was asked clearly with nothing other than, I'll wait if there is another on the way.. rather than install the 'last' ROM.
What's hilarious is that my question was answered quickly and concisely by Infuruno (page 1 post 3!) - now that's all that was required simply put and job done!.
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I hear his slowing down rom making i.e. don't expect one anytime soon, he has alot of work to do i hear he hasn't stopped it just isn't a priority anymore.
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And a lovely tongue in cheek ending!
*talk about the rest of you all making a mountain out of a mole hill! LOL
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Dutty and a few others, are kinda sick of Kaiser & will be jumping ship shortly. Don't expect Great Kaiser roms forever. Not with newer & greater toys right around the corner. Many of us will be leaving shortly.
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Indeed I hear you probs be going the same way in a few months
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Hi guys , I'm abandoning this release for now as it seems there still issues with this build, not sure if its the newer wm6.1, I havent tried 5.2.19212 as yet, but there are random freezes with these build , i know people are mentioning it could be hardspl but I cant see how is that have to do with it, My thoughts it could be related to the dynamice pagepool setting with also with our customcache settings,
I fixed most issues so far, including contacts and other stuff, but dont feel its still stable.
I'm also looking to get a new device soon,
So for now I will not support this thread, also I'm also busy at work again, thanks for supporting guys, I will be at the background trying to do one more release, but need to investigate the random freezing we experiencing now with these new builds
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Hi Guys i have been really busy agauin at work, i'm starting with the new Rom, not really happen with last one, one of my worst rom, but its a learning experience, seems there is more to wm6.1 now especially with the Diamond build, also I'm very interested in getting a new phone so not really motivated in cooking roms for kaiser no more since HTC let us down. as soon as i near completion I will let you guys now.
As said before The hybrid wm6.1 roms are my favourites just that the new drivers wont work, so I will be playing agin with some new builds and if we still got issues i might do another hybrid with all updated apps, my apologies, i would recommend if u still want to use one of my stable roms, still use hybrid april 01 or hybrid 29 thanks guys
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Guys I'm packing up kaiser cooking and cooking for diamond who wants to join me, You will get wm7 on it as soon as it launch
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This may be irrelevant and this thread will probably be closed, but Ive had a few while Im looking for a new rom and it lead me to a question.
WHY DONT ALL THE DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE ROM?
Im sure on of the ultimate answers would be based off of preference etc. but if we would all unite towards one specific goal, not only would we have more solid builds... but we would have more versions (lite, etc) but more themes, faster updates, etc.
I mean ive used this site for a couple years with different phones and we all seem to want the same thing. Speed, reliability, better battery life, etc. So why dont we conference, put our individual talents to use, create specific focuses and put together something Google themselves need to compete with.
I know a lot of the devs here already work together and I have no problems with the way things are... nor am I trying to disrepect any of the hard work you all have contributed. I was just thinking out loud.
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There is a similiar Thread already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572788
this is not a development topic. this belongs in q&a
We ARE working together, but we want to create ROMs for different purposes.
'ultimate' is pretty subjective.
it's easy to see all the different, seemingly random threads about different roms and mods and assume there's no teamwork involved, but really, it's just different people trying different things and when one works well most others adapt it. otherwise, everyone has a different 'ideal rom' anyways.
it's a fairly darwinian approach, but it works pretty well. you COULD try to get everyone to organize and work on one idea, but i think we can save that for companies like htc, motorola, huawei, samsung, google, etc.
besides, anyone who follows this or other android dev sites for more than a couple weeks knows which devs to kep an eye on.
what i feel is the ultimate rom, you don't think is the ultimate rom...
the ultimate ROM for me is feature lite, and fast.
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the ultimate ROM for me is feature lite, and fast.
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And I like fast and feature heavy. Best of everything. :-D
All of your responses is exactly what I mean... Lets say for example, the devs focused on the fastest, most stable and lightest rom as a base. then moved on a way to easily create or modify a theme.
from there, we could move on to different versions... like a hero or blur, etc.
ultimately, every user is going to pick there favorite programs, so maybe we develop a way to easily choose which programs you want included before you flash the rom and voila...
i mean, im sure im making this sound easier than it might be, but with clear and open communication/ exchanging ideas and coming to a reasonable base... the possibilities are endless.
users could focus on the aesthetics like icons, themes, widgets, etc.
ALL WE NEED IS A SOLID BASE...
sure, there are some talented individuals accomplishing this on their own and thats all fine and understandable. I just know that with the power of many over one... a lot more could be accomplished easier, more deliberately and effectively.
Each dev could have a specialty that they focus on...
1. Themes
2. Troubleshooting
3. Speed/ Framework
4. Battery Life
5. The list goes on...
Create an FTP for everyone to access and we could show Google exactly what theyve been hoping for... which is developers alike coming together for the greater good... again, this is just my opinion, but im glad ppl are leaving their input
and with the choosing of apps example... my idea is, if there were a lite version and an ftp or somewhere to host a list of signed apks that you could choose via checkmark, click download and it would automatically save them to a special folder on the sd card. then, the lite version could have a script that auto runs during the initial boot to install directly from this folder on the sd card.
I guess im just trying to create simplicity for the newbs and the devs or veterans that have been on the site and are tired of flaming or answering the same question.
I say, we streamline this process, create simplicity through orginization and leave more room for progress...
Ok, well thats all i have for now... I mean, I have a lot more ideas, but we'll see where this goes...
It's HTC / Google's fault for releasing different models of the same phone, as most blog publishers are oblivious to the difference and post news under the *insert adverb here* title 'htc magic donut'
Well michael this thread did prove one very important thing. That even if your a senior member on this website you dont know jack. First cyan knows the nines and round here noone can really improve his stuff but him. Hence the reason he wont do his own hero rom. They lag no matter what. Sure you can take out all the widgets cut some fat off rosie. Well hell at that point just theme a donut rom. Running the heros and blurs r fun on g1 and mytouch. But if u ever actually pick up a hero phone or blur phone and test them.... u would see a huuuuuuuuuuuuge dif in performance. So basicly the guys know their crap. All of them. and they do work together. Read a drizzy post. Or other dev post. They always thank whoever for help. And if you want your ultimate rom follow cyan he will make it eventually.
Michaelr219 said:
This may be irrelevant and this thread will probably be closed, but Ive had a few while Im looking for a new rom and it lead me to a question.
WHY DONT ALL THE DEVELOPERS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE ROM?
Im sure on of the ultimate answers would be based off of preference etc. but if we would all unite towards one specific goal, not only would we have more solid builds... but we would have more versions (lite, etc) but more themes, faster updates, etc.
I mean ive used this site for a couple years with different phones and we all seem to want the same thing. Speed, reliability, better battery life, etc. So why dont we conference, put our individual talents to use, create specific focuses and put together something Google themselves need to compete with.
I know a lot of the devs here already work together and I have no problems with the way things are... nor am I trying to disrepect any of the hard work you all have contributed. I was just thinking out loud.
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You my friend are a pure genius, the problem is users ignorant and ROM makers naturally have low self-esteem. You see, take a guy like Haykuro he built the foundation for the first ROMs on the sapphire. Now he's fizzled out. BUT in the beginning he was the ****... Sure in every ROM maker's thread you will find credits etc. but that's all just ass kissing... You see, NO ROM MAKER DON'T MAKE ****! The only thing they get is an EGO BOOST! Who doesn't like an Ego boost? Developers at Google, HTC etc. Because they make $90,000+ a year doing what they do and they have normal lives with a wife and kids ideally... As for ROM makers on XDA they are either A) former workers at Google, HTC etc. who have grudges against their former employers OR B) they never got a real job working for a high end corporation like Google, HTC, etc. and ended up bumming it on XDA hoping one of their "fans" will buy they a lap dance... OR C) They are rich as **** and just love doin this **** for the hell of it because they like making ROMS, getting credit and most importantly, recognition and they ASS kissed constantly by people they don't even know... So there you have it in a nutshell with this kind of mix of developers, the ULTIMATE ROM is simply not possible... I certainly doubt I will never see it in my day or if we all go in 2012... If anyone does come up with something even slightly close to the ULTIMATE ROM I bet it will be Cyanogen or my man Dwang. Eugene was on the right track but he lost it when he turned out to be a SNiTcH AKA BIATCH of all ROM makers! But for real I love all ROM makers on XDA regardless of their motives or intentions, they spice up my life and hook my phone up and that makes them the ****. All of their work is appreciated obviously...
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You my friend are a pure genius, the problem is users ignorant and ROM makers naturally have low self-esteem. You see, take a guy like Haykuro he built the foundation for the first ROMs on the sapphire. Now he's fizzled out. BUT in the beginning he was the ****... Sure in every ROM maker's thread you will find credits etc. but that's all just ass kissing... You see, NO ROM MAKER DON'T MAKE ****! The only thing they get is an EGO BOOST! Who doesn't like an Ego boost? Developers at Google, HTC etc. Because they make $90,000+ a year doing what they do and they have normal lives with a wife and kids ideally... As for ROM makers on XDA they are either A) former workers at Google, HTC etc. who have grudges against their former employers OR B) they never got a real job working for a high end corporation like Google, HTC, etc. and ended up bumming it on XDA hoping one of their "fans" will buy they a lap dance... OR C) They are rich as **** and just love doin this **** for the hell of it because they like making ROMS, getting credit and most importantly, recognition and they ASS kissed constantly by people they don't even know... So there you have it in a nutshell with this kind of mix of developers, the ULTIMATE ROM is simply not possible... I certainly doubt I will never see it in my day or if we all go in 2012... If anyone does come up with something even slightly close to the ULTIMATE ROM I bet it will be Cyanogen or my man Dwang. Eugene was on the right track but he lost it when he turned out to be a SNiTcH AKA BIATCH of all ROM makers! But for real I love all ROM makers on XDA regardless of their motives or intentions, they spice up my life and hook my phone up and that makes them the ****. All of their work is appreciated obviously...
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LOL... thank God for the internet. Id read some of the debates youve had in other threads and they got me laughing. Im on the fence, because Im not one to take sides, but not only are you funny... but I actually agree with you on this. I mean, just one thread above me I have some guy telling me that I dont know what Im talking about. For one, Im not claiming to know all there is to know about these phones... or Id be working for Google making the big bucks... and two, he only reiterated things Id already disclaimed.
I didnt start this thread to get flamed, but opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one.
I realize that most of my ideas wont see the light of day, because without the cash or proper credit, people wont work together unless they "get theirs"
A lot of these devs work their @$$es off and receive "tips" or donations purely because they love what they do and I respect that sincerely.
However, the idea that working "together" to create the ULTIMATE rom is possible. Devs asking for tips, help, or using work that one already accomplished isnt what im referring to. It would take moderators, coordinators, infrastructure, hierarchy, etc... To those that see the light of what im talking about, thank you... to the rest, thanks anyway
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Well michael this thread did prove one very important thing. That even if your a senior member on this website you dont know jack. First cyan knows the nines and round here noone can really improve his stuff but him. Hence the reason he wont do his own hero rom. They lag no matter what. Sure you can take out all the widgets cut some fat off rosie. Well hell at that point just theme a donut rom. Running the heros and blurs r fun on g1 and mytouch. But if u ever actually pick up a hero phone or blur phone and test them.... u would see a huuuuuuuuuuuuge dif in performance. So basicly the guys know their crap. All of them. and they do work together. Read a drizzy post. Or other dev post. They always thank whoever for help. And if you want your ultimate rom follow cyan he will make it eventually.
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Read my words carefully... I am aware of what has gone on here on this site. I acknowledged that a lot of developers work well together. Unlike you, im not giving specific credit to any one or two individuals. We all know who has hit the brick and mortar with the foundations that have been set. A lot of those individuals communicate regularly.
I was nearly drawing into the fact that with technology, they could all (those who are willing, of course) conference regularly, establish agendas, specific tasks, and create a template. One that has been re-worked inside and out by each of their hands till there isnt any input that one individually could produce. From there, the focus objective could be the bigger picture like compatible themes, updates, easier installs, more features, etc.
I know im repeating myself to a degree, but I want to make sure the image is clear. There are a lot of devs doing the same thing, for some of the same reasons. But us users all come here for the SAME reason. To take our toy/ pride and joy/ project/ whatever you wanna call it... to the next level. To make it better than it was out of the box, to see the realms that it is truely capable of.
So rather than seeing some devs running into similar problems with their roms individually or simultaneously... One of two things would happen, either A: Solve it immediately once and for all or B: Catch the bug before it was even released. Hopefully my words inspire some of you. If not, keep up the great work.
Lol - cracking read
For now those are the only places I've found on the internet that really try to do something about our phone. They're in chinese but google translator can get the general meaning. Registration is free and guys over there are really supportive. Go on and have a try. They already have a clean chinese/english 6.5 rom. It's not perfect but it looks like they're going somewhere...
http://www.i3x.cc/forumdisplay.php?fid=60&page=1
http://www.zn520.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=24
If we gonna get enough people over there asking about clean ROM and other stuff maybe someone will give a damn about us.
Cheers.
I was thinking. A while ago I had very interesting conversatiion with guy called Nokser (he's developer contributing to this forum). What he told me was that he would be able to make a clean ROM out of original AT&T's WM6.5.
Now a "but". There's always a "but" isn't there ?
He said he would but he won't 'cause he lacks time. Everybody has to make a living and he can't afford to waste time for something not profitable especially when he's loaded with work. (Well OK. It's not what he told me literally but everyone can read between the lines, right?).
You have probably seen kitchens he made and you are quite aware he made life of at least few of you easier
OK, let's get to the point. Taking under consideration fact he made sucessfully i.a. i600 ROM probably he would be our (Jack's users) best bet for making i637 clean rom.
Like I said no one likes to work for free. My idea is to make small donations so he can finally help us and develop new rom.
I think it's the best idea and only one available right now.
What do YOU think guys and gals?
I'm pretty sure Nokser would like it. And I'm not trying to advertise or something...God forbid. I'm just trying to make mine and yours life easier and happier.
Have a good one! Cheers!
mykail
nice that would be cool for him to do that .but if he those make a rom add htc icons or iphone icons and change taskbar like htc phone.
Kmobs just tweeted this: "So.... looks like I don't have a mytouch 4g anymore... ups says delivered... and there is nothing at my door. Fml"
No - I wish I could say I'm joking - but I'm not...
I wonder what the impact on us getting CM is going to be...
Kmobs already had a MT4G, so i am not really sure what UPS was delivering
He just posted an update, "Guys the mytouch I have now I bought full price and am going to remorse. Got it early to work on for you. the other was cheap and is gone."
Yeah, I'm a bit confused as well.
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Kmobs already had a MT4G, so i am not really sure what UPS was delivering
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I bought a full price mytouch to work on (and then remorse) as my cheap one came from my friend. The cheap one was supposed to be delivered today but nothing came to my door. I have to return the mytouch I currently have in my possession to T-Mobile.
I'm going to contact UPS tomorrow.
I'd be willing to make a donation to help replace it - I don't have a lot but if it would help?
Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
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Hmmm... 3 more days of buyers remorse. Tempting!
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Thank you for the offer, but I really don't want to accept money. I plan on moving on when the Nexus S comes out so I do not feel it would be fair.
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you arent going to file a complaint with UPS? that sucks
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Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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Know what's funny? The fact you're pissed because I made a decision for myself! I don't have the time to learn how to do all of this or else maybe I would attempt to contribute.
InGeNeTiCs said:
This is exactly the kind of crap that's bringing these forums down. A handful of devs make stuff for a phone, and thousands of people follow. Nobody is willing to do anything for themselves anymore. So you're going to return your phone(which is a fantastic phone by the way), because somebody isn't going to make themes and there won't be a bajillion different roms available?
I first started with xda back in the day when I had my t-mobile SDA. I got ahold of an mda with a then unreleased WM6 rom from a microsoft mvp and I uploaded it to xda. I made a few windows mobile roms for myself and shared them in the forums. And I modified some apk's in the nexus one forums. I don't just 'know' how to do this stuff. I learned it because I wanted to. I didn't wait for somebody to give me what I want. I did it for myself, and then I shared.
This is how it used to be at xda. Now it's just 'gimme gimme gimme'.
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It's not even that for me, it's more that daunting feeling that something newer and better will come out shortly and I might regret not having waited. I'm not saying the Nexus S will be better, but it's intriguing enough that part of me thinks I should at least give it a try. No harm in comparing right? That's how I decided between the G2 and MT4G and boy am I glad I didn't settle for the G2. I realize how unsustainable and dissatisfying this attitude is since there will always be something "bigger and better" right around the corner, just can't help it
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Know what's funny? The fact you're pissed because I made a decision for myself! I don't have the time to learn how to do all of this or else maybe I would attempt to contribute.
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I'm not at all pissed. I'm sad. I'm sad that a forum that was once full of people willing to contribute is now full of people that are 'too busy'. Last week, I worked just under 50 hours, painted my kitchen, replaced the counter-tops, installed a new sink, faucet, and garbage disposal, painted the cabinets, pulled the motor from my motorcycle, cleaned the gutters, raked and mowed my lawn(last time for the season), picked up my 3 girls every day(like I do every day), made dinner every night(wife doesn't get home til after 6)....and guess what? I STILL found time to pull apart rosie.apk and started modifying xml's because people are getting excited now that the mytouch is rooted and I wanted to contribute.
You are NOT too busy. I can assure you of that.
Well, for me, I'm gonna tough it out...
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It's not even that for me, it's more that daunting feeling that something newer and better will come out shortly and I might regret not having waited. I'm not saying the Nexus S will be better, but it's intriguing enough that part of me thinks I should at least give it a try. No harm in comparing right? That's how I decided between the G2 and MT4G and boy am I glad I didn't settle for the G2. I realize how unsustainable and dissatisfying this attitude is since there will always be something "bigger and better" right around the corner, just can't help it
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Ya I hear you there. I get like that sometimes. But mainly because I just like gadgets. I bought the nexus one while I was watching their press release. I pressed the refresh button in my browser until the order page went live.
I too got the g2 when it came out, while it was a great device, I found that I didn't need the keyboard, and the added thickness that comes with it. So I traded it in for the mytouch.
The problem with these devices is that they're not THAT different from each other. They all have this or that little feature, but it's all the same underlying hardware. 1ghz cpu, bunch of ram, hd recording...blah blah blah. It gets old after a while. If my company didn't take over my phone contract and pay for my upgrade, I would have gladly kept my nexus one. To this day, it's still my favorite phone. It's just so damn solid.
The mytouch is similar in form, but without all the metal of the nexus, it's just not the same. Anyways, I forgot the point I was trying to make, but we have to tell my girls this all the time "you get what you get, and you don't get upset". You picked that device for a reason, now ride that ***** 'til the wheels fall off!
just my 2 cents i personally feel if cyanogen isnt handling the rom for the phone it never seems to get done the right way look at the vibrant i still think devs will make roms for it no disrespect to anyone..
InGeNeTiCs said:
I STILL found time to pull apart rosie.apk and started modifying xml's because people are getting excited now that the mytouch is rooted and I wanted to contribute.
You are NOT too busy. I can assure you of that.
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I'm thinking of starting to mod this device, just not sure where to start looking for information. I've never messed with it much before, it's been years since I've done any programming and I've pretty much forgotten everything. But, I'm always willing to learn new things
Kmobs had a working CM6 besides camera and a couple of other features on his MT4G... it should all get sorted out and we will get CM6. Instead of complaining and resorting to another phone because it was out earlier and has CM6 already... Why not actually contribute by helping trying to work and mod the phone you picked and for that reason.
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Looks like I'll be sending this phone back tomorrow. Seems this phone is not gonna get to much love from the devs.
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Returning a phone because one dev hasn't done anything with it yet in the barely-two weeks its been out? Seems a little extreme, lol
Well, this is my 1000th post on XDA and at the time or writing I have 504 thanks. I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone in this community that I have grown so much from.
When I got my first smartphone in January 2012 I was only slightly familiar with the idea of rooting and modifications. When deciding what phone to buy, I never really looked for how good it was for development, but settled on the Atrix 2 due to its relatively good stats, and low price. For about a month I did nothing, not waning to kill my warranty. around March I decided to root my phone, more for the hell of it than anything else. it went smoothly although my heart was beating faster than I thought possible during the process as I watched my precious phone reboot in the hands of an unknown script claiming to give me further access to the phones internals.
After this I screwed around for a bit with some mods, but nothing serious. Some time around April I decided to install a custom rom. I spent hours googling and learning how to do it without breaking anything, then meticulously followed the guide to install SCV5, what seemed like the best rom at the time. All went well and I enjoyed my new look and feel for a while, until a new rom appeared that I wanted to try. Confident of my abilities, I was slightly less careful, and somehow ended up soft bricking my phone. I had a minor panic attack, but after a few hours of reading guides and asking questions I was able to fxz back to stock and get to the new Lithium rom.
I didn't start doing any development work until about a year ago, when I began tweaking some roms and building my own mods. I bootlooped countless times and became fully capable of recovering in my sleep within a short period of time. In June or July ICS began to hit and the kind helpful forums I had grown familiar turned more into a flame war filled hell hole. This truly made me sad as I tried to expand my dev knowledge working around the huge amount of disrespect and carelessness that filled our community. This slowly became better and I can safely say now that the community has become its old self again.
The point here is that I have learned more from this community than probably anything else I have done in my life. I have now helped multiple people with installing custom roms, and have written a few mods, a few apps, and worked on building android from source (albeit not very successfully).
I am especially thankful to @jimbridgman, @rdavisct, @JRW 28, @alteredlikeness, @cogeary and anyone else I forgot that ran this place before I appeared, and helped me out when I needed it without killing me for asking so may questions.
Thank you all and I hope the new-found love for this phone continues and we can continue to improve our device with the best in software and hardware hacks.
Your post is a great example of what XDA is about. It is also a great example of what people in here can do when they put their mind to something and do not go off half cocked or not reading and understanding before doing.
It is great to have you here, and you have contributed a good bit to this community, as well. Thank You!
Oh yeah I remember my 1000th post, it was one of those ill gotten ICS arguments that caused hell around here... so enjoy yours!
Conrgats on the big 1,000 only 9,000 more to go lol.....
Congrats!!! whats the next goal now?
Cwatts2644 said:
Congrats!!! whats the next goal now?
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To get 2644 posts just like your username states
Lifehacker7 said:
To get 2644 posts just like your username states
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haha id be lucky to get 50.... but that dont mean i wont stop....ill try my bestest!
Cwatts2644 said:
haha id be lucky to get 50.... but that dont mean i wont stop....ill try my bestest!
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I gave you your first thanks, now go get 500+ more and catch up to me.
How old are you lkrasner if you don't mind me asking? I actually envy you, because you've come so far is so little time. I actually wanted to get into dev'ing myself after I installed my first custom rom (HTC Aria), however I must have had delusions of grandeur, I never made it past building from source and I was overwhelmed. I must've gotten a lot dumber in my old age (almost 29), I just can't grasp new things like I could when I was younger.
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How old are you lkrasner if you don't mind me asking? I actually envy you, because you've come so far is so little time. I actually wanted to get into dev'ing myself after I installed my first custom rom (HTC Aria), however I must have had delusions of grandeur, I never made it past building from source and I was overwhelmed. I must've gotten a lot dumber in my old age (almost 29), I just can't grasp new things like I could when I was younger.
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Well, I'll say I'm quite a bit younger than that! It just takes trial and error. I have a lot of trouble with source too, there is so much for android. I would recommend app development. learning java is pretty straight forward, and you can sure get a lot out of it. Android apps are pretty much pure java with added android libraries, so if you learn it, you can apply your knowledge to programming for computers too. There are plenty of online resources to help you learn, and lots of books. If you really want to get good quick, you could always pay some money and take an online class from a university of something.
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How old are you lkrasner if you don't mind me asking? I actually envy you, because you've come so far is so little time. I actually wanted to get into dev'ing myself after I installed my first custom rom (HTC Aria), however I must have had delusions of grandeur, I never made it past building from source and I was overwhelmed. I must've gotten a lot dumber in my old age (almost 29), I just can't grasp new things like I could when I was younger.
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In your old age, at almost 29? I can barely remember being almost 29. That was a full decade ago....
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Well, I'll say I'm quite a bit younger than that! It just takes trial and error. I have a lot of trouble with source too, there is so much for android. I would recommend app development. learning java is pretty straight forward, and you can sure get a lot out of it. Android apps are pretty much pure java with added android libraries, so if you learn it, you can apply your knowledge to programming for computers too. There are plenty of online resources to help you learn, and lots of books. If you really want to get good quick, you could always pay some money and take an online class from a university of something.
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I think it's inspiring to see someone that has come so far on such a short amount of time, regardless of age. I'm impressed. Well done. :thumbup:
Brought to you by time and relative dimensions in space.
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My story is very similar... This was also my first smartphone in January 2012, and those same people mentioned in the OP were a big influence, help, and encouragement - (including @lfaber06 (though I came after his presence), the young jedi @lkrasner, other forum members, and, of course, my wife )
But I am not juggling schoolwork anymore like some of these younger guys here.. Just job, family, life, etc.. or in a different order... And then I lost it all because of Android.. just joking.. Not yet at least :\
Also, I remember JRW 28 once told me how, for him, things would just start "clicking" and making sense.. And then, with a lot of research and trial and error, I just kept hearing those clicks and making connections.. Or was continuously looking for them. And here we are.
Another thing is that you learn something better when you show others how to do it.. And that's what these forums are for - learning, helping, and contributing.
Btw, I have no idea what my 1000th post was..
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My story is very similar... This was also my first smartphone in January 2012, and those same people mentioned in the OP were a big influence, help, and encouragement - (including @lfaber06 (though I came after his presence), the young jedi @lkrasner, other forum members, and, of course, my wife )
But I am not juggling schoolwork anymore like some of these younger guys here.. Just job, family, life, etc.. or in a different order... And then I lost it all because of Android.. just joking.. Not yet at least :\
Also, I remember JRW 28 once told me how, for him, things would just start "clicking" and making sense.. And then, with a lot of research and trial and error, I just kept hearing those clicks and making connections.. Or was continuously looking for them. And here we are.
Another thing is that you learn something better when you show others how to do it.. And that's what these forums are for - learning, helping, and contributing.
Btw, I have no idea what my 1000th post was..
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Yeah, you came after me and somehow came out ahead. I remember talking some when you were first here, and I was still more experienced. Then, to be honest, I was even a little mad when you became better than me. LOL. anyways, congratulations, as you have done some damn good work for us around here.
Well if everyone else is confessing...
Then bless me xda for I had sinned...
I joined xda-developers on 22 September 2012(had to check my profile for this) and I was more of a noob than anyone.Atrix 2 was(infact is)my first smartphone experience.And as my first post I posted in two different forums(or maybe it was three) with a simple problem of soft brick. A few guys(@41rw4lker @devilhunter47 and some others too) came to my rescue and some others came down harsh on me but I got my phone unbricked.A wonderful feeling that was.
Ever since I've been searching,digging,experimenting and consequently learning in the process and the more I learned the more I had respect for this site and the work done by individuals in it.So I began giving that little of my knowledge gained back to the community.I started small with sharing some links.Telling people about the solutions I had read somewhere.
And this kept on growing till one day I bricked my phone again and at that time there was no tested solution for Atrix 2 to unbrick.Then tcf posted a very shady method and I decided what the hell let's give it a try and after some mind boggling and help from the wizards of Atrix 2 @alteredlikeness @jimbridgman) I became the first one to unbrick Atrix 2 at that time.So that was another level of joy.That gave me the boost to really try out things and help other since then I've tried my best to help out and the story goes on...
As far as the big players go they were @rdavisct @alteredlikeness @jimbridgmansome others too @lkrasner @Apex_strider were among the senior members who seemed to know the answer to every query.This community has always been the helping one as i've seen how hard the noobs are trolled at other forums.
But my extended thanks goes out to @alteredlikeness coz he has always been the support which I(and if i'm correct many others)could just trust to fall back to.He's always had my back.If it weren't for how patiently he hears the problem and how simple he makes them sound i'd still be thinking twice before rooting or flashing a ROM.
Well I can say that i've grown from a noob to a Recognized Noob now thanks to all you guys...
And when I saw this thread I was on the brink of my 1000 post and was determined to post here but then someone threw me a problem and I guess I forgot that I had to save up for here and ended up assisting someone in unbricking his phone.
And yeah i'm still stuck with studies
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I wanted this to be my 500th post if not the 1000th.. Well as all others said here, mine too has been a real fun ride.. The Atrix 2 is my 1st android.. Two days after I bought it, I rooted it (though I had no idea what rooting was exactly.. ).. A few more days went by and I seriously screwed my device up.. I was damn lucky as the FXZ were released just 2 days ago! Watched quite a lot of youtube videos on how to use RSD Lite.. Now that I think about it, I realize how easy that was.. still, It was a no risk ( where I live, we do not get devices on contract. payed 23K INR or about 460$..) So I finally tried FXZing and it so happened, the webtop image (grfs.img) of the Searet was corrupt or so.. It always used to fail at that point.. now I could feel my blood pumping.. Quite scary.. Just when I thought things couldnt get worse, LOW BATTERY! Nature really has a way to say "Challenge Accepted" doesn't it? Well did the McGyuver method.. Used an adapter instead of a micro.. and this time I just opened up the xml file and deleted the line with the webtop image.. Flashed.. And VOILA! IT BOOTED UP!! :laugh::laugh: Well that was my first Hackery I guess..
Well, back in those days this forum was a volcano! Very volatile.. There used to be hell lot of flamewars.. And I just happened to fall into a nasty one.. So I pretty much made myself scarce around here.. Used to read a lot and try things out myself.. I did quite a lot of things trying to crack the bootloader.. Hard bricked my device trying.. Luckily I still had warranty for a month left.. And got it fixed.. The mother board was replaced and it turned out to be a boon in disguise.. It came back with a 1.2GHz processor instead of the original 1GHz.. I did find some interesting things regarding the bootloader though.. But not enough..
An year later, things had changed quite a bit and I started appearing again.. It so happened, some asked for a rom that was a mix up of pa, cm and aokp.. And @alteredlikeness mentioned about Pac.. Well, I took it up.. Special thanks to alteredlikeness for guiding me with my first source built rom.. Well, once I got pac booting, there was nothing holding me back from trying more things out.. I then started looking into the Razr forums.. Started trying the kexec roms.. well, my cid got wiped of course.. But I had my backup.. Well, the razr's cm-10.1 did actually boot up once.. Then didn't the next time.. It was quite confusing.. Well this was the "great blank screen issue" lol.. Then again, time went by.. Things got better..
My thanks to everyone from this forum.. specially @alteredlikeness.. I am kinda addicted to XDA now..
Thanks Guys
EDIT: P.S. lkrasner, I am still subscribed to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623076
this would be a great time to update it imo
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EDIT: P.S. lkrasner, I am still subscribed to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623076
this would be a great time to update it imo
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I was hoping people had forgotten that. Especially now that I don't even have an Atrix 2.
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I was hoping people had forgotten that. Especially now that I don't even have an Atrix 2.
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You didn't think I would just let you run away did you? Now get to work!
J/k..
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