WM6 stability - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

Hi guys.. i'm not a noob or anything... but i've been taking a break from WM6 since a recent fiasco i encountered running wm6 on my device. I had to have my phone replaced. turns out that the problem WASN'T the rom.. but the radio i installed seperately that stopped my battery from charging correctly (wow). so now.. after a few months(?) i guess of waiting for things to get a little more stable and waiting to see if HTC releases a wm6 update for the wiz... i'm ready to jump back into rom flashing. sooo. are some of the problems cleared up with WM6? i'm just speaking in general. I know there are a TON of different flavors out there.. i tend to run clean roms.. keep the extra stuff. but i found that my phone froze 2 or 3 times a day.. even tho it was MUCH better than running wm5.. wm6 just became a headache after awhile.
so where are we now? still freezing and resetting? still memory drain and battery drain issues?
in a nutshell.. how's the water?
Thanks... flame away.

why don't you read about some of the latest roms on here and see if the issues you are concerned about are on there. You could anwser most of your questons just by looking at threads on the first page or 2.
i'll save you a search. Just look at Matt's roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309131

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Argghhhhhh :( :( :(

I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
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LoL
If you were happy and content with what you had, you wouldn't be here mate, you'd still be using Wm5 LMAO.
Happy hunting, I do believe you were using NNCuongs at some point recently..............
Cheers,
Beasty
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Rant complete.
San
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Hi San,
Imagine, using Universal just as a phone.
But, no.................
It has to be better than:
Desktop PC
Portable PC
GSM
Phone
PDA
Surf the net
Connect to whatever
Remind to be sub-servant to the other (better) half
.........
So, the never ending quest continues ......
Hey mate, remember we are talking about Universal......
Best Regards,
KOR!
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
San
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Hi San,
Or it could be sheer boredom or you are in love with your Universal!
I WANT A NEW DRUG
I want a new drug
One that wont make me sick
One that wont make me crash my car
Or make me feel three feet thick
I want a new drug
One that wont hurt my head
One that wont make my mouth too dry
Or make my eyes too red
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
I want a new drug
One that wont spill
One that dont cost too much
Or come in a pill
I want a new drug
One that wont go away
One that wont keep me up all night
One that wont make me sleep all day
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
Im alone with you baby
I want a new drug
One that does what it should
One that wont make me feel too bad
One that wont make me feel too good
I want a new drug
One with no doubt
One that wont make me talk too much
Or make my face break out
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
I am in love with you
I am in love with you, baby!
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Cheers mate,
KOR!
Possible solution.
Right click your rom downloads and go to properties to check the creation date, hopefully this will jog your memory. The gap in dates should hopefully give you a clue.
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
Rant complete.
San
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San, you must be dreaming or you logged in on the wrong forum!
Aren't most of us here love flashing ROM's not because we're looking for the perfect one but because we get high by trying the latest one and posting something like this: "a perfect ROM, extremely fast & stable BUT, ......"
There was never a perfect device or ROM for us, but let me give you a clue.
Which ROM is highly customizable, boots up with 29Mb free RAM even with HTC Home plug-in installed, able to retain 24Mb of free RAM after heavy use, seldom crashes, supports 128Mb RAM, perfectly usable by doing away with progs & tools you don't use anyway? Beat that!
Your guess is good as mine!
Do you mean you're going back to the Best WM5 ROM you ever had? The Darkforces Team ROM!
i have tried many and the one i felt in lovewith was NNcoung ROM. Its fast, stable, no memory leaks, 31+ of ram after reset, flash disk (the best of all since you can install all the apps you want here with no side effects) and vanilla so you can install whatever you want. try it you will see that is the best ROM for universal EVER.
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
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Hi,
Have you used Mtty to format/clean your memory ? (sometimes it helps)
And indeed I should try Nncuong's rom.
Greetings,
Wout
wow wow wow!! So many replies, dont know which one to respond to ;o)))
I'm guessing all the 18538 based roms dont seem to be stable on my device setup. It was one of the earlier builds which worked good for me. The 18538 roms always bombed up on me and i kept reverting back to one of the older roms which was flawless. The problem is, I changed my laptop and i dont have the nk.nbf file which i had with me . So i'm waiting for the coming weekend to start the hunt all over again
Until then, i got to live with this fubar'ed POS :-/ Really gets on to your nerves when it crashes over 30 times a day (not exagerating...all i need to do is, be on a call and try and push a button, and the call's frozen. I cant disconnect the call, the END or disconnect hardware buttons all dont respond)
I guess i'll just jump to beastyleo's rom, only thing that doesnt work is a2dp for me, which is much better than this crash-fest, roach motel rom that i'm currently running on!
Cheers,
San
If you have a G3 device try this: http://www.sym-viet.com/nncuong/UNI_2_11_11_G3.rar
the only rom i saw without memory leak. Havent tried beastyleo's tho.
A2DP is really good, it freezes device but just press play button on your headset to unfreeze happens once per day avg.
I only can say................ we made big progress today
And update is comming soon to your way......................
Skwyk said:
If you have a G3 device try this: http://www.sym-viet.com/nncuong/UNI_2_11_11_G3.rar
the only rom i saw without memory leak. Havent tried beastyleo's tho.
A2DP is really good, it freezes device but just press play button on your headset to unfreeze happens once per day avg.
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Universal Is A Useless Device!
Basically, Universal Is A Useless Device!
And, my friends and my relatives think that I have a big head
WHY?​
The basic function of the Universal is Phone. As a Phone it is a useless device even with Windows Mobile 5. It is slow, eats up batteries, has crashes and so forth.
It is very bulky, always has to be carried in the hands. With a belt clip it is immense. It is impossible to use while driving. And, even the voice command is useless as it gets the number wrong most of the time.
So, welcome to Windows Mobile 6, which is not supported by HTC for Universal. It is the same story with Windows Mobile 6 and we are constantly re-flashing as it is full of bugs.
My friends and my relatives tell me that I have a big head, as they call me and that I never return their missed calls. I have painfully explained them about Universal.
So, they say buy a new phone. I tell them that I bought by Xda Exec in the first part of this year!
So, buy a new phone if you want to be in touch with your friends and your relatives. What I do!
I go in July of this year and buy Jasjar. Another Universal!
When I bought it, I told my self that I will only use it for Phone!
Now I own two Universals, several standard and large batteries. Two sim cards and several cases. Lots of different mono and stereo bluetooth and so forth!
Now I am constantly flashing both of my Universal. My friends and relatives still complain about the miss calls. So, now I am thinking to buy a small HTC Phone for just only Phone purposes.
But, I am also thinking to upgrade both of my Universal to 128MB.
I guess, I have to prioritize????
Any betting man or woman out there!
KOR!
dreamtheater39 said:
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The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
San
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Hi San,
Have a look at the following thread, your troubles might be related to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351578
KOR!
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
dreamtheater39 said:
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
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Hi San,
It looks like we are both having the same problems with our uni.
You noticed that it could have something to do with ours being one of the earlier production models ?
FYI i'm now running build 18533.0.7.1 by Nncuong with radio 1.17.
And this is now running without any softresets for 48 hours, which is a new record for my *&@#% uni.
But I still love the thing, It's a hate/love relation
Could you let me know which roms run stable on your uni ?
And do you also sometimes find that it looks stable but after 8 or so hours it seems like the thing is "deteriorating" needing softresets increasingly more often ?
greetings,
Wout
(and also important, after 11 hours battery still at 89%, with light usage of phone )
wout said:
Hi San,
It looks like we are both having the same problems with our uni.
You noticed that it could have something to do with ours being one of the earlier production models ?
FYI i'm now running build 18533.0.7.1 by Nncuong with radio 1.17.
And this is now running without any softresets for 48 hours, which is a new record for my *&@#% uni.
But I still love the thing, It's a hate/love relation
Could you let me know which roms run stable on your uni ?
And do you also sometimes find that it looks stable but after 8 or so hours it seems like the thing is "deteriorating" needing softresets increasingly more often ?
greetings,
Wout
(and also important, after 11 hours battery still at 89%, with light usage of phone )
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Woww!!! Looks like you're speaking through my brain m8!!!
Especially the pseudo short-lived happiness with the new roms (18538 roms!) until all hell breaks loose!
As i've noticed, the nncuong roms, the darkforce (earlier) roms worked great for me. Right now, i've flashed thingonaspring's 3.2 rom, hoping this baby will hold up....lets see how it goes!
The mo3ulla rom (confirmed) was a nightmare on my device setup. Was the worst of the lot, mainly because of a serious memory leak problem. Harldy any time, and it drops to a skimpy 3meg free ram status with nothing running!
Was way too crappy to be used for anything at all, flashed over thingonaspring's rom (its a 18533 rom), i'm wishing this one would work fine for me....will post in and let you know how it fares...
cheers,
San
hahaha,
If i'm right your device won't like thingy's 3.2 (it was a softreset fest on mine)
let me know will you ?
greetings,
Wout
wout said:
hahaha,
If i'm right your device won't like thingy's 3.2 (it was a softreset fest on mine)
let me know will you ?
greetings,
Wout
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oh gawdddd ((( thingy's rom is no good on my device
What rom r u currently running and how good is it???? I guess i need to replicate ur setup!
The last stable rom i can think of is Darkforce's rom, and i dont seem to find it on the forums....do u have a download link???
cheers
San
addiction
Flashing of Different ROM's is an addiction dangerous than grug adduction....
I don't know now how many times I have flashed my Universal..Thre is no end to it. Our Developer friends always come with the new ideas and we follow them...........What is the result? everyone knows better.
dreamtheater39 said:
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
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Hi San,
So simple and I kept rambling on and on.
Ramblin’ Man
Lord I was born a ramblin’ man
Tryin to make a livin and doin’ the best I can
When it’s time for leavin I hope you’ll understand
That I was born a rambling man
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Hint: My signature contains two of the best ROMs ever!
Best Regards,
KOR!

WM6.1 is soooo laggy

Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
Very strange... I have not had any issues so far and I have flashed every WM 6.1 rom that has been posted thus far. What radio version are you running with the WM 6.1 builds?
Tried all tree radio's. Never had problems with sound, camera, gps, but every time 'the lag is back'.
Is it possible it has something to do with a combi of pagepool and cache-settings?
aartjanm said:
Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Try running Alex's 1.62 AT&T build. That thing is pretty freaking fast Got a great SPB benchmarking score of 436 according to my testing.
Is the 1.62 rom WM6.1?
Can I use an ATT Tilt rom on a non ATT phone (Dutch MDA Vario III Tmobile)? Never tried that, because of all the warnings about ATT and non ATT phones/radio's/etc.
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Is the 1.62 rom WM6.1?
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No it is not. But it does have a lot of updated drivers & Bluetooth fixes. Check the official post regarding this.
It was running very smoothly for me, even the non cooked one.
This ROM was actually released on HTC's website as an official update to the Tilts.
I agree, it is so laggy i went to Alex's 6.1 because he does great work but i did notice it was very slow and would lock up most of the time. i tried all the radio's same issue even tried just clearing out my phone thinking it was a program causing a conflict and same issue. i ended up going back to Alex's 6.0ROM and all is good in the hood once again
btw if you real this ALEX you rock
i hope that this is not some "FLUKE" bug that happens to a small amount of people and wont get reviewed by the higher powers as a issue.
aartjanm said:
Every wm6.1 rom I flash, have the same result: lag! (I DO a hard reset after each new rom). Tried Dutty's, orginal HTC's, Alex, etc, etc.
Sometimes wm is running smoothly for a while, but most of the time the lag is terrible, sometimes the delay is even more then 5 seconds!
Anyone have the same experience (and more important: anyone who knows how to fix this)?
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Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
If you've try many roms already? Can I ask are you using a task manager?
Tweaks; cooked roms are already tweak to better suit them.
I am using Dutty's 6.1 Official, and I love it to death. I had used his beta and it had a lot of bugs and was laggy so I had to revert back, however his new rom is gorgeous (THANKS DUTTY), it is very smooth and other than not being able to soft reset through the power switch, there is no lag and I am using radio 1.58.26.20
Oh its a tilt
I agree, I tried three 6.1 ROMs including the latest Dutty's ROM which I am currently on... and they all lag...
Also notice a problem when I go to the call logs screen and press the red endkey button to go to the home
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
stay out of the kitchen...
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
bronx said:
thanks for this thread. I was considering flashing, but after this I'll stick to my stock rom till official upgrade. I am on wm6 t-mob uk and after tweaks I cannot see the reason to flash anything else anyway. the device is rock solid and snappy enough.
cheers
bro
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I can not agree more. the stock rom I have, WWE Tytn II , equipped with tons and tons of cabs I found here is stable at 99.9 %. Though Dutties Rom gives an almost 1800 VSbenchmark and mine only 1392, I do not complain.
Videoclips lag, though I found out that theyd DO play better when using the "X" bottom before, stopping all open applications.
I am eager to flash, but only when a guaranteed stable and quick cooked 6.1 ROM will offer me further a fuzz-free environment.
EDIT 1: No, I have no lag what so ever.
EDIT 2: I owe a lot of respect for all chefs spending plenty of hours on their work (hobby?) helping this community. I just wait for the one who might have "the ultimate ROM" .Fair no?
(i am playing with the 3D.dll 's further on meawhile hehe)
Keyboard\Screen lag
I promise that lag will be gone if you flash mine
Commercial for myself but I fixed the screen\keyboard lag
My base is latest Vodafone 6.1 ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366014
Cheers,
Leo
Michaelr219 said:
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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well, there is a reason why people are complaining: all WM6.1 ROMS (till now) are considerably slower than the recent cooked WM6.0 ROMS.
At least according to "objective" tests like SPB Benchmark and VS Benchmark the WM6.1 still can't catch up the WM6.0's..
So the feeling of lagginess (does this word exist?) is understandable.
But our cooks are working so only a matter of time???.
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Lagging? Are you comparing that lag to original ATT roms or one of Dutty's/Sleuth/cooked roms? compared to dualtouch v4(dutty), ive found some lag as well, but not compared to ATT's, blazing compared to ATT...
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Compared to wm6 roms. They are really fast, but all wm6.1 roms I tried aren't....
Michaelr219 said:
i dont know why a thread like this is created... utter nonsense if you ask me. ive only noticed all positive changes with wm6.1 with no lag... in fact... my video is exceptionally faster on the newer roms. especially sleuth or duttys. a lot of these chefs pour their heart into these meals... if you cant enjoy them... too bad, cause some of us love what they do and appreciate how much more awesome our devices are with each new build. keep up the good work guys... youre heading in the right direction... there is LESS lag... considerably
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Maybe utter nonsense for your device, so be happy with THAT in stead of putting words in somebodies mouth.... On my device there IS lag... and I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF ALL THE CHEFS! Threads like this have the intension of helping people with problems with upgrading.
Having said that.... all others: thanx for the advice sofar. Any suggestions on pagepool & cache settings fixing the lagproblem on some devices are welcome And for all the chefs I'm gonna use the positive words of Michaelr219: keep up the good work!!!
hello again.
sorry if it's going to be an offtop, but after reading Your posts some things have crossed my mind.
back in the days when I was quite happy owner of vario II (wm 5 out of the box) exciting thing have happened. when I was browsing through these forums I've spotted a wm6 rom for my device. that was something. just like jumping from w95 to xp on pc. almost everything seemed to be different. I was using black flavour (best regards jasjamming wherever You are now Mate) with various versions. flashing addiction was quite understandable then, as we were improving our devices A LOT.
now with vario III I am wondering why people are trying hard to fix things that are not broken? I am not bashing anyone's work, I have a lot of love for all the so called cooks for their free contribution, but I don't understand what is this fuss all about.
as I read more and more I learn, that 6.1 is not that great at all. ppl are asking how to switch off threaded sms, pie is still unusable(ish) and now the info that roms are slower than 6.
so can please guy who said to stay out explain to me what's so good with those 6.1 that I cannot have with 6? I am not flaming or whatever, maybe I just lost something while diggin' through all those threads.
I also said, that imo it's not a bad idea to hold on for offcial roms given official way, as they are tend to be more solid and complete.
just my five cents
br
bro

Best WM6 rom

Hello, I have a Cingular 8125 G3.
I flashed to Farias WM6 Crossbow a while back but i've been having problems here and there, not as stable as it once was, and i've hard reset several times the past week to correct problems.
How does the Faria rom rate to the other Wm6 roms out there?
Which ones can you recommend to try? I don't care for things that have lots of addon apps, just stable Wm6. I've been reading the threads here and can't decide. Obviously this isn't official releases so 100% compatibility isn't guaranteed, but which one has been proven to be least problematic?
You should look through each of the ROM's threads and see what kind of problems the posters are having. Asking a blanket question of "What's best?" is just going to repeat what's in the other threads.
NBD
I have used 2 to 3 roms. but so far the NBD rocks
although NBD 8.2(I had) got slow and gets into problems as the time passes. but may be its caz it windows. And its win's tradition to get things messed up after some times as in PC.
Now I am using the TNT latest with 1933 build, and I dont know why people are dying praising him as being killing fast. I ain't experience that fastness. those apps on the today screen contiously sucking up the speed and the battery power as well.
Now I am thinkin to build my own, if untill then I wont see the latest from NBD.
Note: I dont mean to offend anyone, its just my experience.
Most stable WM5 rom
What about Most stable WM5 rom? Would that be the Cingular Stock Rom or a Faria rom or something else?
Flashed the NBD's ROM v8.3 and I found out the following bugs:
a. Didn't find it to be fast, as per the rumors.
b. QuickMenu would pop-up every now and then whenever I touched the softkeys.
c. TouchFlo sucked, maybe I didn't get used to it.
and few minor ones...
Then I flashed the TNT's 1933 and few of the bugs are:
a. Battery drain has increased
b. Although faster than NBD's ROM, but every now and then, it lags.
c. Don't know if it happened to others...but during the call and when the device goes in power-saving mode, when I try to access the task bar (start menu bar)...can't access it...
Now, am going to flash mfrazz's ROM, so can't say much about that...
SO, Basically, there isn't an ideal custom ROM...there are a few bugs in almost everyone...its just how many can one bear...and if you can't stick to the OEM ROM....
P.S. I appreciate the efforts of all the cookers...don't mean to offend 'em...apologies if I did...after all its because of them we newbies can enjoy the taste of the new ROMs...THANKS to all the cookers....
I'm just tired of deleting this kind of threads...so i figured ..if you can't beat them, join them.
That's pretty funny Anichillus. Heck, I may have to get back into cooking.
Doesn't this kind of thread go against forum politics? I think it's actually a good idea that this thread was stickied. Now all of the people who want to ask that same question: "Which WM6 ROM is best?" all have a place to go to read other's opinions first before actually posting and asking the same question on their on and even post feedback here so others know what is going on with certain ROMs before ever flashing their device...
Anyways... Since this thread doesn't appear to be getting deleted any time soon. I will say what I have learned from trying almost 50-60 different ROMs.
I have found that if you want the latest build, go with TNT. If you want stability, XM6R3/4 are great ROMs. I personally have found from experimenting that an older build such as the 1437 build combined with the 2.19.11 UK Radio is one of the best combinations you could ask for.
Up until my Wizard fell in the toilet and completely fried, I had been using TNT.1437 TouchFlo. Now All WM6 ROMs have bugs but I found this ROM to be very stable with only minor, almost un-noticeable bugs that can be corrected quite easily. Combine this with the 2.19.11 T-Mobile UK Radio and I never had memory leaks, I never had lockups, I never had the dreaded stopping at Splash Screen problem. To put it simply, I never really had any of the bugs mentioned in the forums using that combination.
WWP
i read from post 1-5 and only got single impression-
Worms World Party
sorry
I have done some benchmark tests between some ROMs, i shall post them soon online so you can see the differences. And i give my comment too on some ROMs.
I said it somewhere before - asking which ROM is the best has about the same sense as asking which religion is the best...
In other words - pointless question leading just to fruitless arguments...
Mirek
mirekluza said:
I said it somewhere before - asking which ROM is the best has about the same sense as asking which religion is the best...
In other words - pointless question leading just to fruitless arguments...
Mirek
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Don't get me wrong, I agree...and I think most of us here agree on that.
The reason I stickied this thread is that everyday another "what's the best" or "what rom should i use" kind of threads appears. By adding this one to the top, I am hoping to avoid that.
So...proud users, post here the rom you use, add a poll ...do whatever you want, but please no more new threads.
Hi,
Actually, I'm using Core2.0n ROM but I want to switch to another one because of some big issues with A2DP and my BT Headset (Sony DR-B720NX). Audio drops frequently.
Let me say that Core2.0n is a very fast and good ROM but I can't survive without my BT Headset and A2DP.
So, another ROM suggestion is welcome. (FYI Someone told me to try TNT.1933... But I still didn't flash it).
Thanks to all for your feedback.
Jaguar 3.1 (AT&T) works the best for me. I have flashed every rom that has come out and the only Rom that has speed and no Bluetooth problems is Jaguar 3.1 with Radio 2.47.00. I am on the AT&T network and have the 8125 G3. The newer roms I flashed seem to have problems with Bluetooth and battery drain, and thats even with the Battery drain fix.
"What works best for me might not work for others."
The reason the question keeps coming up is that the current method of generating 1000-post threads with bugs/fixes scattered throughout makes it basically impossible to know the "functionality" status of a ROM without actually installing it and waiting for the problems to appear...
What is really needed is a quick STANDARDIZED summary for each ROM, posted in its thread's FIRST POST that lists the currently identified/reported bugs. This list would have to be updated WEEKLY at a minimum in order to be considered "current".
Any ROM thread that doesn't maintain an active and accurate list in the FIRST POST should be DELETED to save everyone a LOT of time.
For example, key features should be listed as working/not working/patch required (i.e., wifi, bluetooth, GPRS/Edge, camera, battery usage, buttons, voice command, etc.) along with a specific and accurate description of the issues.
barky81 said:
The reason the question keeps coming up is that the current method of generating 1000-post threads with bugs/fixes scattered throughout makes it basically impossible to know the "functionality" status of a ROM without actually installing it and waiting for the problems to appear...
What is really needed is a quick STANDARDIZED summary for each ROM, posted in its thread's FIRST POST that lists the currently identified/reported bugs. This list would have to be updated WEEKLY at a minimum in order to be considered "current".
Any ROM thread that doesn't maintain an active and accurate list in the FIRST POST should be DELETED to save everyone a LOT of time.
For example, key features should be listed as working/not working/patch required (i.e., wifi, bluetooth, GPRS/Edge, camera, battery usage, buttons, voice command, etc.) along with a specific and accurate description of the issues.
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I did tried to do that with my roms and I am pretty sure that most of chefs here also...but as you can imagine it's really really hard and time consuming to develop a rom and then take care of ~500 + posts. People that really care about they're PDA's won't mind reading as much as possible until they know what they want and how to do it.
OK OK OK
I have experimented many Roms
TNT 1437 Touchflo
The touchflo is amazing! works fine.
issue on some performance...
no beam
sucks battery
slow at all, its working fine, but i try to recomend 10 mb page pool.
NBD V 7.X
To much problems with phone poor signal, no signal etc.
no beam IR, no NOTES. no excel.
Slow, TO much batery problems.
Octaivoi 5.8
I tried many roms, but this one is my favourite. Also he Blackdiamond 3.1 and nbd 9.1 are really good wm6 roms.
The cat rox!
Pumpiron579 said:
Jaguar 3.1 (AT&T) works the best for me. I have flashed every rom that has come out and the only Rom that has speed and no Bluetooth problems is Jaguar 3.1 with Radio 2.47.00. I am on the AT&T network and have the 8125 G3. The newer roms I flashed seem to have problems with Bluetooth and battery drain, and thats even with the Battery drain fix.
"What works best for me might not work for others."
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I also use Jaguar, and LOVE LOVE LOVE it. I have flashed soooooo many rom's...I swear I DO need a 12 step program. After all is said and done I keep coming back to my beloved Jaguar. It isn't Vanilla, but it also isn't jam packed with crap I will NEVER EVER use. It is a nice balance between the 2. It is VERY stable and allows many 3rd party programs to be installed while still giving space. It isn't the fastest, but it isn't slow by any means...and it is quicker than some. But again, I could care less about zippyness...this is a really nice and stable rom. The battery gets me a day, day and a half...not faboo, but other roms had me charging once or twice a day. BT is not an issue at all, as it is in some other roms. I installed the 5 button HTC Home without issue, even customized it- again without problems. I run SPB apps without problems, have easily 20 games (they don't lag), I watch movies and stream Orb as well as MobiTV with little lag issues. I'd highly recommend it. I too am running Radio 2.47 and have great connectivity.
That being said...the only bug I noticed is that for some crazy reason, active sync sometimes decides it does not want to sync...but I have also noticed this with other roms, so it may not be so much a Jaguar issue as perhaps a WM6 issue.
my two cents...
I'm running BlackDiamond 3.1 and its pretty stable, quick touchflo with cube and very few bugs that i've come across.

Dutty rom testing

How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
zagan said:
How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.
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I have been using dutty's roms for several months now. I have not experienced any of these issues. The last time my phone lagged was about a month ago when i switched from Opera>Camera. It paused for about 30 seconds which wasn't a big deal at all.
You need to be careful what programs you are installing onto the Kaiser and what roms you are downloading. A lot of applications and some programs that are on the roms aren't necessarily for 6.1roms or the device to begin with.
I noticed my phone has issues when I install cubes. So I tend to stay away from cubes when Im using htchcustomizer.
But overall, his roms are great and if you have been using the roms you should know what to expect. You need to troubleshoot your issues by yourself because we don't know what rom you have because you never specified, what applications you have installed, which you've narrowed down to create these problems rather than blaming it on the rom itself.
mohamedmall said:
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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yes yes yes
mohamedmall said:
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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I gave it a try to see what the result would be when using this rom.
I havn't looked at this forum heaps but seems to me that this rom is released quite a lot, and I'm wondering if that's due to problems over time or simply trying to release roms with something that's simply new to a rom or program.
The rom is DualTouch v6 WWE 03/06/2008
Radio: 1.58.25.14
protocol: 25.69.30.05H
For me, I have found this rom to be a bit flaky myself, lacking in a number of areas and the default programs I find limit the usefulness of the phone and slow me down compared to the orginal rom, and now the MS core program simply lock up at different times even after re-boots.
I'll re-flash the rom sometime soon, with probably a different rom I seen another decent rom on here but had too much video player/MP3 player type programs, in it and the office had been ripped out of the phone.
I would rather sus out making my own rom, so I can drop in programs that I think help to speed up using the phone and offer much better options for surfing the net and handling videos than from what I've seen so far.
I use my phone a lot of surfing the net and managing data that I have rather than using it for games or movies as such, music is ok but I have an A1000 as well and that's stero and I'd rather that for music also UIQ is a much better OS than WM but what can you do hey.
Then Get In The Kitchen And Cook Your Own
you could have a virus they are computers after all i would tyr flashing the rom again ......
Mods please close this useless thread, it should be in the respected version thread if anything.
posting under the thread related to the rom will help you avoid getting flammed or being responded to rudely. As far as Dutty's roms go i haven't had problems while using his roms .. and just like p1tater said if you don't like the way Dutty has built the rom than get in the kitchen and cook a rom yourself .

Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-(

Hi Guys, took the plunge and installed the HTC wm6.1 update on my 3month old UK Orange Branded Tytn.
TBH it was ok before - but i just wanted to see if it would be any quicker and fancied the threaded SMS as i used it on my n95 and it was easier to keep track of conversations. First problem was it would not run HardSPL and i got the white screen problem that i cured by following these instructions..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I have been now able to install the new rom okay, BUT it is as slow as hell (I thought the orange firmware was bad lol) seems to be ok then it just jams - sometimes for a good few seconds. bit of a pain. The keyboard Touch screen and any buttons dont do anything, sometimes for up to 30s, then it all catches up with all the buttons iv pressed during the freeze ect being actioned, a nightmare.
I tried one of Duttys ROMS (Must say im very impressed with his work!!!) BUT Same problem as before the thing just freezes for a few seconds (doesnt crash - just freezes) its a pain trying to browse or send tst messages.
Have I done anything wrong in the upgrade, or is it "Orange care time"?
did u remember to hard reset ur device after flash?
Thanks for the reply,
I just ran the JumpSPL program then ran the rom exe file(S) The thing is fine, just as slow as hell - having to resort to my old n95 now ;-(
I didnt do a hard reset after i updated the rom, just activsync`d it and set it up
do a hard reset it should improve your rom spead. Some times when you flash a new rom and don't do hard reset files of the old rom are still on device and cause conflicts with the new rom that is why a hard reset is almost highly recommended after a rom flash.
Don't forget to back up your contacts,messages,documents on device as a hard reset will erase everything except spl, os, rom, radio.
good luck
ill give that a try, thanks
Can you let us know what ROM's you're running.
I'm on Orange (UK) and mine is much faster than the stock ROM now.
Do you have any other software running on it ? SPB Mobile Shell sometimes slows things down ...
Read my signature for the ROM's I'm using on the Orange Tytn II.
hi,
Where did you download the ROM from? The one from the HTC website only gives me the option to download Norwegian version....any ideas?
Thanks
EDIT I've jst downloaded RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship - Is that the ROM you used?
Just flashed my HTC TyTN II Orange, with the above ROM & everything is O.K at the moment, woo. lol
Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
and Duttys
Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
Tried doing a hard reset as suggested and im not running any other apps. Iv reflashed a couple of times today and both are still causing the same symptoms - touch screen suddenly not as responsive then the tytn freezes completely for a few secs, then its fine for a while.
speedbird said:
Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
and Duttys
Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
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I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
I've flashed my Orange Tytn2 and a friends without issue using the 'official' 6.1 rom that was posted on Modaco.
I didn't hard reset afterwards and both units are working fine. Maybe try flashing your device on a different pc?
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM, and that i had also tried duttys rom (I was very impressed with it), If you read my posting i think you will realise i simply commented it was showing they SAME symptoms on my phone. My problem was NOT with duttys rom (btw i DID notice the word test in its name before i loaded it, but thanks for pointing that out), I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
ajs007 said:
I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
"Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
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speedbird said:
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM......... I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
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What are the symptoms ?
Have you added any other Software (i.e. programs or cabs) ?
Has the device got slower over time ?
What challenges are you having with problems with the flashing process ?
Are you using a screen protector as this reduces the touch sensitivity ?
Im not running any other programs or screen protector, the thing is fine for a minute or so then starts to slow down and reaches the point where nothing will happen and it locks up (for what feels like ages) prob about 30-43secs but its enough to cause grief if ur trying to send a txt with it or browse. Then it comes back to life and is fine again for a while, also getting a few error msgs saying that CProg has problems - (on all the 6.1 roms iv tried).
i have tried several roms (inc stock roms) and although i have read postings in modoco about the new 6.1 rom making the machine unresponsive this takes the biscuit, i thought my old n95 was bugridden when i first got it ;-(
There's a thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062 that tells of a similar tale, it might be worth a read.
Some of the issues are with the ROM and poor touch sensitivity making the unit appear to slow down.
If you have nothing to lose, overwrite your ROM's with the ones in my signature, they're on the forum and I know they're quick, and I'm on Orange, so its a good benchmark.
If you are still experiencing similar problems, then I would suggest you update the phone with the original stuff and tell Orange Care that they have a duff handset and you want it replacing.
i will give it a try, thanks ;-)

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