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Registry help needed please- SPEAKER VOLUME

I have used the tweaks found in the Wiz/Wiz section (and subscribed to a thread without much response http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256734 ), as well as other WM6 device tweaks and ones found by googling...my issue is, and no one seems to know what/how...
My internal speaker, the mono speaker used for phone calls, is very low. The tweaks I applied have made the speakerphone louder, and my BT earpiece louder, but if I am in my house, and get a call, I usually dont use BT or speakerphone. I sound like a reverse Verizon commercial...instead of "can you hear me" it is "I can't hear you".
I have used the audiogain tweaks (also known as audiogain cc), and also HKCU\Control Panel tweaks. I have reset my device. My physical settings are cranked all the way up (slider, and volume icon).
Does ANYONE know what reg entry specifically targets the internal single (top of device between flashing lights) speaker to increase in-call volume??
I dont mind being a guinea pig, so if you have any ideas about this issue, I'd sure love to hear from you and try them out.
As always, thanks in advance!
***PS- am using AMPv2 rom with radio 2.37 IPL/SPL 2.26 (if this helps at all)

BUMP
Does anyone have any idea which reg entry may specifically target the single internal speaker? Please and Thank You.

wish I did. that would be the first thing I would fix. try apache forum as well. it is basicaly the same hardware, But I remember that a lot of verizon users traded their's in innitialy, because they could not hear anything.
hERE ARE MY RELATIVE REG SETTINGS FOR YOU TO COMPARE`
HKLM/Software/Audiogain
EAC_GAIN_EMBEDED (mine is set to: 6d)
HEADSET 67
EARPHNE_UPLINK VOL 19
HEADSET_UPLINK VOL 13
RECIEVE_UPLINK VOL 18
SPEAKER UPLINK VOL 10
HKCU/CONTROLPANEL/PHONE
VOL 0X0000FFFF(65535)
You may also want to look at these:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\InCall
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Loudest InCallVolume
InitVol 0x00000001(1)
HKCU\ControlPanel\Volume
Here are my settings:
Key 0x00010000(65536)
Mute 0x00000003(3)
Ringer 0xfffffff(-1)
Screen 0x00010000(65536
Volume 0xffffffff(-1)
I believe you will have better luck adjusting the volume in HKCU rather than HKLM.
I hope this helps you figure out this problem. I know many of us suffer. Somehow mine is either ok, or I'm just used to it.

Mahalo!!
Thanks for your response. I have played with many of those areas, but perhaps I haven't figured out the right tweaking level yet, so I will go back to those regs and play some more. I will check the Apache section out, perhaps I could gain more insight there. I'll say this...if I finally find the right settings, I should win a front row seat to see Barry Manilow in concert--make my hard work pay off (yes you read correctly, I love Barry!)
I will certainly post any findings. This is a real pain in the ass. I love my wizard, but the speaker issue is frustrating.
Thanks again for your insight.
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HKLM/Control Panel/Volume AND HKLM/Drivers/Speaker both potentially affect volume (I think), but in my rom, there is no settings. I am not sure if the no settings IS the default settings, and am not sure if I can futz with these?? Does anyone have an idea if it is safe to attempt tweaks in these 2 areas??

it is safe if you back up your reg (original)
these settings are in my 588 (which I haven't posted yet) which I will post when it is ready. it is currently being simmered like a stew.
PS. when I was tweaking the camera graphics, I noticed a lot of functions that are not in the registry. about 1/3 of the icons do not show up under any circunstance. which leads me to believe that the program is capable of more than the inhibited registry.
so perhaps I will export my reg for you to try. unfortuantely, I can't post them using opera mini

How about this one,
HKCURRENTUSER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\InCall \Attenuat ionCategory = 0
The setting was on "2", changed it to "0"

dudeluv said:
How about this one,
HKCURRENTUSER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\InCall \Attenuat ionCategory = 0
The setting was on "2", changed it to "0"
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What did you find when making that change? everything I have read claims it only affects the incall beeps when raising the volume slider, so I haven't really bothered with it...but I have been toying with the possibility, just for sh*ts and giggles, because at this point I have pretty much exhausted the reg entries I can think of.
Thank you for your response. Every little bit helps, and keeps me from just randomly choosing a number out of my ass to change the reg entry to!

Did you try it? It should work. It will "increase in-call volume??" You will not crash your device for trying it.

I noticed only a slight volume increase using the attenuation fix. My speakerphone sounds great though. I may just have to save my pennies and get the speaker replaced==maybe it just gave up the ghost, because none of these reg entries is giving me the volume I need.
Any other suggestions, tips, insight, etc would be appreciated.

BUMP
Still seeking some insight. Apparently the repair shop locally wants to charge LOTS of money for the speaker. The speaker worked fine prior to installing the AMP rom. I like the features of the rom so don't want to swap if I don't have to, but I REALLY do need to fix this speaker volume issue.
Can anyone provide me further assistance/suggestions?
Thank you in advance.

while your at it does anyone know what reg entries are for upping the mic evel to make it more sensitive?

I know mine increased when I tweaked something in the 4 audiogain files...but I don't remember which ones I tweaked. Look through the thread I linked in my first posting it should help.

This is my solution , and on all versions and over 30 devices tested by me.

Raphael low sound fixed (almost)

J dont think that it is posted here,so from Diamond forum the file below makes Raphael sounds louder.Test it to mine & works, BUT it's a little disorted (with .wav files j use) ,maybe someone with enough knowledge fix it.
Media player now its loud, havent test it in incoming ringtones or bluetooth.
It doesnt sound well when SRSWOW is on.

The problem is that there is not enough power available from the audio amplifier. This can't be corrected with software.
What this .cab does is probably that it tries to increase the amplification beoynd the capabilities of the device. This may make the sound seem louder, but as you have noticed, it also increases distortion. There is no workaround for the laws of physics...

So we are really really stuck with a very inferior product.
I installed SRSWOW but lost all sounds

illi said:
So we are really really stuck with a very inferior product.
I installed SRSWOW but lost all sounds
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Did you change the dll file in the registry so that if points at the right one? Its been written a couple of times the the SRSWOW cab going about set the wrong values in the reg. So I think this should be an easy fix if you do a bit of searching. Try the Daimond forums.

Either this problem varies from device to device, or then Ijust dont understand how loud you guys need...
When my wife calls, she shouts so loud I even have to tone done volume

@WizP: I'll do a search for the fix.
@Taajuus: The sound must be decent enough....

Taajuus said:
Either this problem varies from device to device, or then Ijust dont understand how loud you guys need...
When my wife calls, she shouts so loud I even have to tone done volume
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I have my volume set to the halfway mark. I'm talking about the conversation volume, only settable while in a call, not the system or ringer volumes.
Those that are reporting low volume, is it the ringer, system, or call volume you are complaining about? In other words, is it the front or the rear speaker that's producing low volume?

The ring volume is more than fine, it's just the speaker volume when in a call, when outsuide you can hardly hear it

Yes, I concur.
I've got my in call volume at maximum and you can still barely hear the other person.
Before you ask, I don't have a screen protector covering the earpiece.

I still wonder - I havent had any problems with incall voice. Can hear person very clearly even outside in traffic noise.
Could this really be single device problem, or maybe operator dependant?

With that audiopara file in my raphael (ROMeOS V.1.05) the speakerphone volume is now hugh,the music playback is loud, but a little disorted, but j think that there was no serious change in incoming ringtones (though j use only wav files-that are much louder from mp3's.
As far as the disortion a new modified audiopara file that suits well with Raphael should make the difference.
J will try some mods with SRSWOW..

Worked here... But the sound is VERY distorted..
Couldn't find a way around it with SRS (Tried treble reducer) and no luck.

I can´t even here when I´m talking to somebody, but I still have that plastic over the earpiece but still! There´s NO sound at all through it (well really really low), I have max volume, will it get better with the screenprotecter that doesn´t block the small speaker?

Mr.Sir said:
I can´t even here when I´m talking to somebody, but I still have that plastic over the earpiece but still! There´s NO sound at all through it (well really really low), I have max volume, will it get better with the screenprotecter that doesn´t block the small speaker?
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REMOVE THAT. It's the same thing if I tried to yell to you with a wall in between us. Sound has difficulty traveling through a medium, specially a piece of plastic.

Dear Taajuus,
Could this really be single device problem
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Well... yes sit can because:
1. There are several related problems that are not seen in all devices.
2. Not all Raphaels [Touch Pro] are the same model, make or version.
or maybe operator dependant
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It can never be related to the operator because:
1. The operator's interaction with the device is the one of a comm carrier.
2. It's only possible influence would be with/thorough the radio, never the ROM.
3. The operator cannot directly interact with the hardware.
Cheers.

xenkato said:
J dont think that it is posted here,so from Diamond forum the file below makes Raphael sounds louder.Test it to mine & works, BUT it's a little disorted (with .wav files j use) ,maybe someone with enough knowledge fix it.
Media player now its loud, havent test it in incoming ringtones or bluetooth.
It doesnt sound well when SRSWOW is on.
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how do you install this?

The sound is distored cause tripp modified the values of the gain but put it too high. If some one could put lower values it would be great. I tried but didn't manage . I also tried to put the values of the HTC NIKE but it resulted in a lower sound that the original one.

How to install audiopara (to 'ekerbuddyeker")
Get in /Windows,search for audiopara3.csv, MAKE A BACKUP, use resco exp. and copy the new audiopara to /Windows, soft reset and done.

xenkato said:
Get in /Windows,search for audiopara3.csv, MAKE A BACKUP, use resco exp. and copy the new audiopara to /Windows, soft reset and done.
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Ah, so that's how you install it ololol better write this on the first post...
Well for me this file really fixed the sound of my device, specially the earspeaker!! Now I have to lower the system sound so I don't get deft
I recommend everyone to use it...

So do u actually mean that this cab file has increased the volume on a call or just the general sound???

Lowest System volume too loud

I think I have the opposite problem from everyone else when I search the forums. The base volume level under System on my Touch Pro is quite loud (when playing music), to the point that I actually take the earbuds out, and just hang them over my ears. If I use mortplayer, there's an option to use relative volume changes, so I can set the System volume to one highlighted bar, and then use mortplayer's controls to make it quieter. Unfortunately, I can't do this with the HTC media player.
Running ROMeOS 1.12. Is there anything I can do to make the volume levels a bit more sane?

Yes, you could try reading the RomeOS thread, which deals with this - it is due to the Audioparm file used in that ROM

Doh, scanned through that thread and must have missed it. Thanks.

Oh, I just posted the same issue in the German ROMeOS thread. I'll skim through the WWE release thread then...

schaggo said:
Oh, I just posted the same issue in the German ROMeOS thread. I'll skim through the WWE release thread then...
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Search for audiopara fix, should give you lots of options

Thanks for the hint. I did it (for now) lowering the TouchFLO Player volume in Advanced Config Tools down to 10 or 20. I'll look into what you proposed though...

schaggo said:
Thanks for the hint. I did it (for now) lowering the TouchFLO Player volume in Advanced Config Tools down to 10 or 20. I'll look into what you proposed though...
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Yeah its just 3 files that you copy/overwrite in windows. Takes seconds and viola, lower volume entirely. Some roms are loud and it breaks up/distorts on the speaker.

In the TF3D settings tab, under sound, I find the volume slider there is actually accurate within 1% increments, whereas the system volume buttons can only change the volume along 5 20% increments, I was unable to listen to music without killing my ears till I discovered this tidbit, no messy registry tweaks needed

G1 Speaker Volume Increase

Anybody working on a hack to exceed the g1 volume by normal. My earlier iphone had a volume boost tweak to increase its really low volume and now g1 to has the same problem. SOme body please try to increase volume by 150%

I would be intrested too. have had a few phones in the past that alowed u to mess with the gain tables

I would actually pay to get this pathetic volume fixed..
miss days of tytn II and the TCPMP over amping facility.
used G1 for audiobook on the tube today - frikkin pathetic
Bah!

id love to see the volume upped ,i hate how low it is
always having to ask everyone to repeat what they said

i use toggle setting to turn my volume up on my phone. It's free on the market and cupcake friendly.

g2crx said:
i use toggle setting to turn my volume up on my phone. It's free on the market and cupcake friendly.
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They're actually talking about upping the volume beyond the current maximum, which shouldn't really be too difficult. I'd love to see someone get this done.

i had suggested this before when the phone first came out, and all i got was "take that wax out of your hear! lololz0l"

lol why would anyone install bloat when they can press a button with their hand?!
anyhoo yep deffo need a bloody volume hack for this puppy - or this 18 month contract will kill me!

I was talking about ringer vol its so quiet

Ah ok, sorry i'm talking about the volume of the headphones it blows!

Yah, I'm hoping for it as well...This may be nothing but coincidence, or may be worth a look at, but I experienced something with Jewel Lust. I'd have music playing, and then i'd load up Jewel Lust to play with the game's sound off. And for some reason, when jewel lust loaded, the music got louder even though it was already on full volume. Maybe Jewel Lust has what we are looking for in the code. Since its all open source, maybe a dev or coder could take a look at the source and see what Jewel Lust is doing to cause the volume increase. Could be a fluke for all I know..but the volume >DID< increase from being at full after I started up Jewel Lust.

kooooooooool tep you should be a private eye!

c-tang said:
I was talking about ringer vol its so quiet
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I have my notifications/ringer set to max and can barely hear them in my pocket. I don't remember them being *this* quiet in 1.1. Might just be me though.
(and yes, I have the latest radio/etc).

yeah mine is too quiet as well i wish it had a train horn or something on it lol , then maybe i would hear it
i have it set to vib+ring and still miss most calls , plus i work in louder type environment

i'm sure a seem edit would do it, but seems everyone is afraid of those?

I agree with everything said in this topic.
Someone pelase make it

I am constantly missing calls due to this and its making me pretty frustrated with my awesome phone.
I was reading around and there is supposedly a file called "asound.csv" in the ETC folder where you can change the max volume. I don't have a file called that and the few sound files i cannot see how to do this. Does anyone else have any ideas on how to increase the max volume?
This is the site i was looking at
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00649.html

nockam said:
I am constantly missing calls due to this and its making me pretty frustrated with my awesome phone.
I was reading around and there is supposedly a file called "asound.csv" in the ETC folder where you can change the max volume. I don't have a file called that and the few sound files i cannot see how to do this. Does anyone else have any ideas on how to increase the max volume?
This is the site i was looking at
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00649.html
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Good news and bad news.
First the bad news: Looking at that site, it looks like that information is in reference to the Openmoto Freerunner, not the G1.
Good news: I believe I've found where the volume config is stored. I've found a pair of CSV files with a good amount of volume related data. I'm not sure if there is a hardcoding of the volume itself in the files or not, but it looks like we're on the right track.
The files are /system/etc/AudioPara4.csv and /system/etc/AudioParaTMUS.csv
Here's some of the contents:
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You are right it is for "Openmoto Freerunner" which makes perfect sense now as to why i couldnt find the file. I found the file you put in there as well but it doesn't seem to be very obvious (to me at least) what needs to be changed. I am going to give it a shot though... here is to hoping i can still use my phone as a phone once im done!

bahnburner said:
Good news and bad news.
First the bad news: Looking at that site, it looks like that information is in reference to the Openmoto Freerunner, not the G1.
Good news: I believe I've found where the volume config is stored. I've found a pair of CSV files with a good amount of volume related data. I'm not sure if there is a hardcoding of the volume itself in the files or not, but it looks like we're on the right track.
The files are /system/etc/AudioPara4.csv and /system/etc/AudioParaTMUS.csv
Here's some of the contents:
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If I even had a clue as to how to edit or help you get something going I would but I am clueless. Good luck as it seem quite a few of us need this....

[Q] volume issue dell venue pro

so i have this great phone, i love wp7, it has thing's that i don't like but well nothing is perfect.. but what i really, let's say, hate is when i receive a phone call the volume is really low :S i have the phone wit the volume o maximun (30), the music sounds great, really loud but the phone call and even the alarm sound really really low, how can i fix that?

Phone call volume is controlled separately from everything else. While in a call, hit Volume Up and put it at max (the scale is different: in a call, it goes 1-10 instead of the normal 0-30).
If that's still not loud enough, I'm not sure what to expect. You could try using earbuds or a headset. On my HD7, I have to set call volume down to 5 when using earbuds or it's painfully loud. Bluetooth headsets often have their own volume control too, and can push the call higher if the phone doesn't go high enough.
There are some registry controls that affect volume, but I don't think anybody had managed to get any write access to the DVP registry yet.

GoodDayToDie said:
Phone call volume is controlled separately from everything else. While in a call, hit Volume Up and put it at max (the scale is different: in a call, it goes 1-10 instead of the normal 0-30).
If that's still not loud enough, I'm not sure what to expect. You could try using earbuds or a headset. On my HD7, I have to set call volume down to 5 when using earbuds or it's painfully loud. Bluetooth headsets often have their own volume control too, and can push the call higher if the phone doesn't go high enough.
There are some registry controls that affect volume, but I don't think anybody had managed to get any write access to the DVP registry yet.
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thanks for the answer man, but i think i don't explain myself very well xD i'm talking about the ringtone from when you're getting a phone call you know? That's the volumen i'm talking about that it is kinda low, and is the same with the alarms..i hope you can understand me now haha..and i have another question since you answer my previews one you know a way or and app to change the colors of the live tiles? Because the colors that came with the OS are, let's say, short haha

Ah... yeah, I really wish I could set the ringer volume independently of the music-and-so-forth volume. BTW, alarms will always (by design) start at low volume, then get louder over the course of about a minute. I tend to set the base volume high before going to bed anyhow, but I've forgotten to a couple of times and it still wakes me up within a very short time.
Adding custom accent colors is another thing that requires registry access. In theory, there's a registry editor built into the EM app. So far as I know, nobody has gotten it to work, though. It's a real pity, that is; with a built-in regedit, the phone could easily be dev- and interop-unlocked, opening up a lot of homebrew potential.

GoodDayToDie said:
Ah... yeah, I really wish I could set the ringer volume independently of the music-and-so-forth volume. BTW, alarms will always (by design) start at low volume, then get louder over the course of about a minute. I tend to set the base volume high before going to bed anyhow, but I've forgotten to a couple of times and it still wakes me up within a very short time.
Adding custom accent colors is another thing that requires registry access. In theory, there's a registry editor built into the EM app. So far as I know, nobody has gotten it to work, though. It's a real pity, that is; with a built-in regedit, the phone could easily be dev- and interop-unlocked, opening up a lot of homebrew potential.
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that's too bad :s well i guess i have to live with that. The same thing happen to me with the alarms haha so i guess i have to live with that too xD
I'm starting to hate wp7 -.- i think an iphone has less limitation than wp . I'm going to use this phone for a while but in the end i'm sure i will get back on android, or maybe i will use both phone, i don't know.
Thank's for the reply that solve my doubt's