Xda Argon...w*f?! - General Topics

Hey ppl check it out the xda argon
http://businessshop.o2.co.uk/phone_detail.aspx?id=94&groupid=4
NOOOOO xda flame what is the matter with o2? anyone no how i can get a hold of the flame? cos it looks like o2 not gonna release it in the uk or europe!
thanks
S1MB4D

that argon looks like little more then an alpine with wm5 and a better cam
odd choice for this day and age

It's a renamed Trion, which is a rebadged Hermes

so i guess o2 gonna be jerks and not release flame here?

Looks a lot like this to me
The picture of the XDA Argon looks a lot like this HTC P6300 (Panda) to me, what does anyone else think? http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=735

yeh, i think on website called coolsmartphones they had speculated it would be the panda.

NOT a rebadged Trion, which is being (has been) released separately

is there not something about htc not letting companys like o2 rebadged devices anymore ?
was that not why o2 and tmobile starting getting other suppliers for devices they wanted to be named o2 and tmobile
and why imate was left out in the cold by htc ?

advice plz!!!
hey guys a bit of advice
you lot think i should bother to upgrade with o2 with the orbit or should i go sell the upgrade and then buy the flame?

Rudegar said:
that argon looks like little more then an alpine with wm5 and a better cam
odd choice for this day and age
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yep..now the argon users will complain for WM6
But, IMHO, I would really love get this device. You atleast need 3.5" screen to do something useful. It just does not make any sense working on a 2.8" device. Does it?

That is a joke, it looks like they are relying on sentimental reasons to invoke XDA2 users to buy this. With the O2 Flame being launched next week, why would anyone buy this?
There are plenty of online shops who are already taking orders for the Flame - use Australian sites if you are seeking extra security. Retail price online is about 500 quid.

Hi, a lot of conflicting stuff on the Argon so let me set the record straight. It's an HTC Panda badged for O2. It runs on WM5 althought O2 will be rolling out with WM6 in the near future. CPU is 400Mhz Samsung 2442. O2 have a large client base in the UK using the XdaIIi form factor and there has been high demand for continuity since HTC pulled the plug on the XdaIIi. I manage over 800 XdaIIi's and the Argon is key to our future growth until something better with a 3.5" screen comes along.

main thing that o2 are going back to the xda2 style is that also of businesses use the xda2 for tracking things eg taxi`s, dhl etc all have carkits or cradles for them.this is a stroke of genius from o2,wait till you guys see wot o2 have in the next xda pipeline i cant wait...

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XDAIIi end of life declaired...

Just heard that the XDAIIi has been declaired END OF LIFE.
Which is a real pain in the arse as I was about to order 600, and o2 only have 42 left as of today.
i dont know if anybody can confirm this news?
Noodleman said:
Just heard that the XDAIIi has been declaired END OF LIFE.
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Does this mean that XDA IIi is designed so poorly and they give up making/supporting them? :?
Hi...
IT is a sad news though....as per the info..the manufacturing contract between O2 and HTC is terminated so there will not be any support for the HTC devices from O2..
It is also informed that the contract is terminated over a fighting issue between I-mate and O2 as O2 insisted that HTC should make either for I-mate or for them...so....that's why Quanta is in picture and there is Atom and in turn there is Prophet from HTC....
Well who needs support from O2 anyway, they're crap. This forum is the place where you cry for help :lol: I don't care if they stop providing support for HTC devices.

New XDA release plans from O2 - 15th Jan 07

Hi everyone,
I've just been on the phone to O2 regarding my contract with my XDA mini s that had ended. I asked if there was any new XDAs planning to be released. The lady on the phone said that there are two planning to be released on the 15th January 2007.
They are called:
XDA Zinc
XDA Exec Graphite
She didn't have any other details to give me but I am wondering if anyone else has heard about these and if anyone knows anymore information about them? If there good it would be worth me hanging about and upgrading in a few months.
Chris
Yep O2 seem to be telling people about these product names but not giving out any details, and thus far none of the regular mobile sites have any info on them. I guess since they are not using HTC anymore they have found a manufactuer who can keep their mouth shut
From what I have been able to find out Graphite will be running WM5 Smartphone and Zince will be running WM5 Pocket Pc. I got this from Asian site, I couldn't make out what the rest of it said
Hi again,
I've been crawling round the internet about this. From this site http://www.dtac.co.th/th/10digits/10dg_modellist.aspx they state in brackets that the Graphite is O2 Jupiter. Searching for O2 Jupiter turns back a fair few results. It looks like its being made by asus. In the results theres alot mentioned about O2 Mars which looks like the TyTN/wizard, specs look good having 520Mhz Intel processor, 64MB RAM, 128MB ROM etc. These of course could all be different phones but still interesting.
Heres some links:
http://www.msmobilenews.com/page/1425/
http://www.slashphone.com/71/5190.html
http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/05/o2-mars-and-jupiter-followup-to-hermes-breeze/
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3315&catid=30
http://www.pdafrance.com/articles/newsitem_rss.php?id=7454
I called 02 today with regards to my ocntract upgrade. The only phone i'm interested in is the xda atom exec, so they mentioned that there are 2 (above stated) xda's comming out. She them put me on hold and came back after 5 min and said that the XDA Atom Exec is going to be the graphite and zinc with different specifications. This info came from o2 customers service, so i guess it's true and the release date is the 15th Jan.
well hopefully they introduce new data plans when they release these handsets because at the moment data charges cost a bomb!
XDA Zinc
I can't find anyone in O2 that seems to know any plans for releasing the Zinc in the UK.
:-(
im lookinf forward to this

XDA Zinc, anyone had any luck?

Supposed to be out today, but O2 tell me they are not in stock. Has anyone else had any luck?
o2 are always behind the times, partly due to them always making pointless rubbish like o2 active for their phones. however as this forum is for htc devices only, i doubt there will be a forum
"Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a secretive firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names..."
from the xda portal, there used to be a section which said something like this-
"the only things not wrong about the site name/address are the dash and the dot..."
it should really be called something like
www.devices-manfactured-specifically-by-htc-developers.com
says v in this thread
I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?
I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.
benjdc said:
I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.
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Absolutely - I rang them on Friday and they said they were still all on for the Zinc. However, someone on one of the Universal forums said there were real problems with it.
The imate ultimate looks a better bet. Shame O2 won't have the taste to go for it.
churchwa said:
I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?
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I looked at your other posts, including why is this forum just htc? and because this is your second thread about the xda zinc, i just thought it would be like asking about a nokia or blackberry release (which generally doesn't happen). That said, I really hope you or someone else gets one because unless o2 make another horribly slow rom, I want one. And this is the only place where people are likely to talk specifically about it, and I/we can find out if it's any good...
I guess that clears it up, or not
It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..
hdubli said:
It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..
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Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.
apd said:
Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.
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REALLY??? I've been hassleing o2 for the trion for ages. Was told its only out in Germany, the UK gets the Zinc. I really hope you're right!!
EDIT: Just called o2 myself. Indeed the Xda ZINC has officially been pulled "We are no longer going to release this phone". Instead we have the Trion (Hermes) out on 16th April, together with the o2 Argon (whatever that is...I've never heard of it and nor had the o2 guy).
Looks like I'll finally get my Hermes (although I really want the HTC Kaiser which has integrated GPS)
The Trion will be out week starting 2nd of April (yeah right, i will believe that when i see it)
And they dont have a clue what the Argon is which i find quite funny. I will ask my friend at O2 what the Argon is when he gets back from holiday.
although im going to have to wait yet another month, i guess its good news. atleast they are going to release something to replace my mini s. we'l wait and see.
I'm led to believe that the Argon is an HTC device with inbuilt GPS - go search the HTC site? Not sure the model.
Strange, as the only one with GPS on their site is already out as the Orbit.
I have heard it is a full sized business device designed to replace the XDA II/IIs. I guess all the firms using them want to upgrade?
I'm wondering if the O2 XDA Argon is actually the long-rumoured Universal replacement, the HTC Omni?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=245564

O2 XDA Stellar release in Germany?

Hi @ll..
yesterday is was in an O2 Store and there was an information, that the XDA Orbit 2 (it´s a HTC Touch Cruise i think), will be released by O2 on 2nd December.
At home i found on the internet, that O2 will also release an "XDA Stellar", but no information about when it will come in Germany?
I was astounded about that PDA!! And now I think it will necessarily have it!! THATs SO COOL!!
but i don´t know, what Accessories the O2 Device will bring with it.
Also i could buy the original HTC Tytn II (is that the Kaiser?), but i think the o2 will be cheaper with more Accessories..
Someone has more information about it??
thanxx 2 @ll
[NEWS]
I phoned with the customer support of o2..
now it seems, that the XDA Stella(r) will not come in Germay
Instead of this one, the XDA Orbit 2 will come out (aka HTC Touche Cruise)
with carholder, Tom Tom, etc..
And no i decided to buy an original HTC TyTN II
me, as one of O2 owner, will not buy any O2 product anymore,.
It is expensive, and bad in customer service,.
In atom forum, most people agree of not going to buy any O2 device,.
It is better to use a HTC device, so many useful apps, WM6 upgrade is prepared by the Official, and espesially good in customer service,.
look at the ATOM forum, me, they, and any others members, havent solve the problem for WM6 ROM, (so we dont have a perfect WM6 ROM yet)
but look at HTC device, any non-perfect ROM?? nope,.
that because they have an official WM6 ROM,.
@ Garmin
you are right..
so i decided to buy the one from HTC.
But i never had problems the support of o2 (germany). this was great!
And the thing, why i wanted the one from o2, are the accessories like full TomTom, things for the car and the second pen..
My hopes dashed
Just got my hopes up that the Stellar was going to answer my prayers but now discovered that it only has a 2.8" screen.
I've had an XDA IIi for almost three years now. About every six months I have a search for any worthwhile upgrades and keep being surprised that HTC haven't brought anything out. All I want is an XDA IIi (or equivalent with a 3.5" screen as I use it for lots of surfing) with fast web browsing (3G). GPS would be nice. A decent camera would be nice but I'm not that fussed.
The XDA Exec looked good but was just too heavy (and based on some friends' experiences quite buggy and unreliable).
The XDA Trion got my hopes up but only had the 2.8" screen.
Is it just me? I just can't believe it. I have other few friends clutching onto other XDAs as well because they don't want to downgrade to something else.
Maybe the Samsung F700 will do it...

O2 UK to get Touch HD2 (AKA Leo) in October

Just spoke to an O2 rep and they said a new phone had just it their system called an HTC HD2 which was due for release towards the end of October.
I was surprised as they have never sold an HTC branded phone before. Also, O2 and their release dates are often way off, I remember phones being pushed months and months based on their original release dates.
Exciting news none the less.
Would be better to post your coment on the same Leo thread insted of creating the 6th thread regarding Leo!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4597999&postcount=165
There is no official Leo thread. Just one stating that it is the first decent phone by HTC in a long time. I did not want to go off topic on that thread as I was not making any comment on how good that phone was.
Perhaps as a Mod you could spend less time picking on long term users and more time creating a Leo section on the site?!?
If this is true it's fantastic news. I was angry they didn't have the TP2 available, only iPhones as an upgrade, but the Leo looks like it will piss all over the TP2.
I'll not have to upgrade to an iPhone, sell it at a reduced rate, and put the money towards the Leo now.
I recently left O2 as there was no TP2 or equivalent. I am absolutely loving my TP2 and (1) I really use the keyboard and so maybe want the phone after the LEO, and (2) its anyone's guess when they will actually release it (o2 that is).
Also, my 18 month contract for my TP2 will finish in february 2011, and so the market should be flush with new WM7 native phones.
So I am not feeling bad about not waiting.
churchwa said:
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Perhaps as a Mod you could spend less time picking on long term users and more time creating a Leo section on the site?!?
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He's not a mod although does like to try and "police"
Right not a Mod, just tried to let know that there are many threads regarding Leo
My apologize, it was just my point of view
crazyC said:
I recently left O2 as there was no TP2 or equivalent. I am absolutely loving my TP2 and (1) I really use the keyboard and so maybe want the phone after the LEO, and (2) its anyone's guess when they will actually release it (o2 that is).
Also, my 18 month contract for my TP2 will finish in february 2011, and so the market should be flush with new WM7 native phones.
So I am not feeling bad about not waiting.
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Did exactly the same as you my friend. Left O2 as no TP2. Moved to Orange on an 18 month. Mine finishes March 2011. So as you, Ill get myself a Touch Pro 3 with WM7. I like my keyboard to much to switch to a HD or Diamond.
If you're stuck in a contract you could always sell your existing handset and use the money you raise to buy a new one SIM-free, then continue to use the new phone with your contract SIM.
I prefer to use the network phone insurance as I have young kids who are very adept and getting my phone when I am not looking.
I just find it easier to call up and get a replacement if something happens to it.
Can't really do that if the network has never sold the model of phone I am using.
Looks like we'll be able to get the Leo for free from o2 on a £44 18 month contract according to engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/htc-leo-looking-confirmed-for-o2-uk-debut-will-be-free-on-the-r/
O2 normally rebadge their HTC phones as XDA phones like this one - XDA Guide (aka HTC Touch Cruise 09). A bit of a waste of time and money I am sure. Now that HTC is a pretty main stream brand they are maybe going to just sell them as HTC devices. Here is some more proof by the way, not sure if anyone has posted this but several blogs are showing pics of the latest O2 in store catalogue with a page for the HTC HD2: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/30/htc-hd2-makes-first-official-appearance-in-o2-uk-catalog/
Its also coming on T-Mobile and Vodafone according to mobile phones direct :
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p27241.aspx

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