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Hi all Gurus!
I was planning to get myself a Jabra BT8010 and plan to get it working with WM6 installed XDA MiniS.
Generally, how is the sound quality of BT A2DP as compared to normal headphones? Are there many issues in BT Stack of WM6 that might prevent nice music experience?
Also, has anyone tried BT8010 with WM6 Orwell's rom? and got it working perfectly fine?
And can we just jot all the issues/problems/solutions faced with WM6 (whether Orwells or PDAViet) and A2DP here in this thread?
Mods, the specific threads are all scattered so I thought I would start off this thread specifically for WM6 and A2DP. Please delete this thread if this topic doesnt require a separate thread.
thanks,
Sid
Works fine on mine with a Sony Ericsson DS910, and an iTech Blueband.
It has AVRCP also, so with the DS910 it supports all the controls.
Quality is probably about the same as A2DP from my K800i, but it is all quite memory intensive, so if you're low on ram it will stutter like a bastard.
i had the PDAviet 3 WM6 and the xound quality on mine was okay..its just a cheap think i bought on ebay that you plug your own headphones into. its eem sto lose some base and sound a bit tinny compaired to the same headphones plugged into my 8125 directly, but that could just be my BT receiver.
I have Nokia HS-12W and the music quality if good with same gaps in music but the quality in voice is very bad!
The voice is like talking from far!!!!
If someone solve this problem please tell us!
Im Using my Mono SE headset to listen to movies etc on the go and have noticed a bit of a drop in quality from WM5 to WM6, It seems to crackle more on WM6.
Bluetooth range is very good though, I was on a call the other day and someone came to the gate so I got up and went outside still talking on the headset only to realise my Wizard was still on my desk 10 meters away
Jules
totalcmdext said:
I have Nokia HS-12W and the music quality if good with same gaps in music but the quality in voice is very bad!
The voice is like talking from far!!!!
If someone solve this problem please tell us!
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I use iphono mini with WM6, quality in music is quite good (similar as WM5) once you add the bitpool registry key to 40 (before a lot of skips).
But used as hands-free has quite bad quality, at least in my case most of the times I have to disconnect the bluetooth and use the phone.
Perhaps the Jabra are better in this aspect.
rodalfa said:
I use iphono mini with WM6, quality in music is quite good (similar as WM5) once you add the bitpool registry key to 40 (before a lot of skips).
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Can you share the exact location of this key in the registry?
Although my Jabra hasnt arrived yet. I just want to be ready.
--Sid
Got My Jabra BT8010!
Hi All,
I got my Jabra BT8010 working with the WM6. I am pleasantly surprised with the voice quality. Music thru the stereo headset is also excellent, but sometimes the songs seem to slow down or plays fast randomly.
I tried overclocking, but it did not do much good.
Has anyone faced this? this doesnt happen everytime.Just randomly, the speed of song increases or decreases. Any pointers in this?
Further, Anyone knows how do I activate cyberon voice dialling thru this? The MS Voice commander doesnt work well with Indian names :-(
Thanks for the help...all. I also filled the petition for XDADEV to allow storing the ROMs at this site!
sids911 said:
Hi All,
I got my Jabra BT8010 working with the WM6. I am pleasantly surprised with the voice quality. Music thru the stereo headset is also excellent, but sometimes the songs seem to slow down or plays fast randomly.
I tried overclocking, but it did not do much good.
Has anyone faced this? this doesnt happen everytime.Just randomly, the speed of song increases or decreases. Any pointers in this?
Further, Anyone knows how do I activate cyberon voice dialling thru this? The MS Voice commander doesnt work well with Indian names :-(
Thanks for the help...all. I also filled the petition for XDADEV to allow storing the ROMs at this site!
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Give this cab a shot. My buddy uses it on his Mini S, says it works wonders. I don't have a a2dp headset yet. I forget what brand he has, it's a something-com I think, the one that folds up.
My BT620s is on the way, I can't wait. I will let you know how it works out.
computer9cowboy said:
My BT620s is on the way, I can't wait. I will let you know how it works out.
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I got it today.
The damn thing took forever to charge the first time.
I have to say I am very impressed with this thing. Works out of the box with WM6, so far no issues whatsoever. The sound quility is not audiophile level, however it is a lot clearer than I thought it would be!
I was listening to some songs that i have only heard on my crappy laptop speakers and they are awsome. I can hear a lot of things that I couldn't hear before. The bass on these is great.
the best part is that they were only like $60 US, that is less than I paid for my Jabra BT800 a year ago.
I Give the BT620s a 2 thumbs up!!!!!
btw no A2DP fixes have been applied to the Mini S, I am using PDAViet 3 so I am not sure, actually there may be some tweaks in that.
Using A2DP on pdaviet3 with the itech clip IIs headset works great for me:
PROs:
- no skipping after 20 min of mp3 playback
(EDIT: it does drop audio for one sec about 1-2 secs after initial playback, but then resumes)
- not wired headphone sound but pretty darn close
- seamless music pause/resume with incoming calls
- no problems at all with MS Voice Command
CON:
only one so far - people on other end when asked about sound of MY voice said it was a little distant/tunnel sounding (but this is more due to the mic location on the itech)
That being said, I've just "reverted" back to faria's 3.3 rom. Today screen with SPB Pocket Plus/Diary combo seems snappier.
i have wm6 and sonorix OBH-0110, and sound quality if awfull comparing to PC connection with toshiba bluetooth stack. and some cooker said that wm6 bt stack is alot worser then wm5 one.
Hi All,
I dont have this location on my WM6 Orwells: "HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/"
The "Settings" folder and the subkeys are not there. This location was there in WM5 while it isnt there in the WM6. Does anyone know where it has been relocated?
And any settings for A2DP skipping and Music playback speed uneven-ness?
Added those bitpool registry keys but they seem to have no effect. How can I improve A2DP sound quality in WM6?
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Added those bitpool registry keys but they seem to have no effect. How can I improve A2DP sound quality in WM6?
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Did you create those locations manually?
Even after installing that bluetooth fix cab in this thread, I still have problems with skipping and song playback speed intermittant. :-(
Gurus!!! where art thou????
sids911 said:
Did you create those locations manually?
Even after installing that bluetooth fix cab in this thread, I still have problems with skipping and song playback speed intermittant. :-(
Gurus!!! where art thou????
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Yes I created those manually. Now I use Molski's AKU3.3 Crossbow style rom and sound quality improved alot. Still not on the same level as a wired headset but much better nonetheless. As soon as there is a better WM6 rom with working A2DP tweaks I will upgrade again.
An Update,
I used this A2DP fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
and skipping went away. Also, music quality reduced.
I uninstalled the fix, and I have the quality back, but songs have started skipping again.
Cant MS provide for a better BT stack in WM6 with all their development prowess??
Would going back to some stable ROM like Molski's or Farias WM5 help?
Faria's WM6 and A2DP
Another update....sighhh
I updated my Wizard to Faria's latest fully loaded WM6. The skipping reduced a bit, but thats about it. The Music speed is still intermittant.
Seems like I wouldnt be able to enjoy this gift. Why cant things just RUN....
I am guessing, changing ROMs wouldnt help...or would it? Does Widcomm stack work on WM6? Anyone with this experience?
The next ROMs I am gonna try are:
1. WM6 MBE
2. Farias 3.3 AKU
3. Molski's WM5
After that i will try selling my Jabra BT8010.
sids911 said:
I updated my Wizard to Faria's latest fully loaded WM6. The skipping reduced a bit, but thats about it. The Music speed is still intermittant.
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Anyone figure out a cause behind the intermittent skipping and speed fluctuations when playing music over bluetooth? I'm using the XDA Mobile 6 release 2a ROM with my BlueAnt X5i headphones. Everything works for the most part. But about 10 to 15 minutes it will drop audio for a few seconds, then start back up again. Annoying but I can live with it.
What's really irritating is the fluctuations in playback speed. For some reason playback tends to speed up every 5 minutes or so. When I skip ahead or go to the next song and it's fine. Then the issue recurs again in 5 minutes... repeat cycle.
I've tried using different mp3's of different bit rates and that doesn't seem to have an impact. I've also tried different players - WMP, TCPMP, GSplayer, Mortplayer, etc. All seem to behave the same way when it comes to variations in speed during playback. Any ideas on this one????
Hi
I am running pdamobiz 1.1 on my prophet, and it is working very good.
I have only one problem with wm6, like on all other OS i tried on my prophet.
When I am lisening to music with my prophet and my Motorola HT820 bluetooth headset, it has dropouts in the music.
It is like the prophet can't keep up with the music streaming to the headset.
I have tried to increase and decrease the frequency of the prophet, without any effect on the dropouts, so I don't think it has anything to do with this.
I have also tried to look at the taskmaneger under music playback, to see if the processor can keep up with the work, and it don't seem to be a problem.
A loot of % free processor time.
Also the memory is no problem, with media player runnning and streamiong to the headset, there is plenty of free memory.
I have also tried to change the bitrate of the music files, without any luck.
I think it must have anything to do with the settings in registry or something, maybe a buffer must be adjusted.
Is there anyone that can use the HT820 without dropouts, please give me an advice.
Best regards to all of you.
Tried with another BT-Headset?
PanicMan said:
Tried with another BT-Headset?
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No, I don't tried that.
I only have one stereo BT headset.
I think the A2DP stereo audio streaming must be defined by a standard, so it must be the same for all headsets?
With a normal BT headset (without stereo and without streaming), I don't have dropouts.
I have the same problem with jabra bt620s
Kina500 said:
Hi
When I am lisening to music with my prophet and my Motorola HT820 bluetooth headset, it has dropouts in the music.
It is like the prophet can't keep up with the music streaming to the headset.
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I had a similar problem when I was using Smart 1.3.
The bottom line for me was actually the memory (or the actual lack of it).
After soft-resetting the device, the mp3 player worked good for a couple of hours (interchanged with calls, texts, etc).
But then, all of the sudden, the sound started to get the "hick-ups" (even though there was several MB left in memory).
Not starting too many programs, and a memory cleanup worked for me.
This may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
overone said:
I had a similar problem when I was using Smart 1.3.
The bottom line for me was actually the memory (or the actual lack of it).
After soft-resetting the device, the mp3 player worked good for a couple of hours (interchanged with calls, texts, etc).
But then, all of the sudden, the sound started to get the "hick-ups" (even though there was several MB left in memory).
Not starting too many programs, and a memory cleanup worked for me.
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I have tried some different things, with this problem.
I noticed that there is about 7MB free program memory, when I played wma files, mediaplayer use about 17MB of memory to play a wma file.
If I try to play a mp3 file, mediaplayer 'only' uses about 12MB of memory, and I think all must be including the media file itself.
I tried to encode a mp3 file at 96KB/s, and install pocketmusic.
Pocketmusic playing the new mp3 file only uses about 7MB of memory, so there is about 17MB programmemory free.
Still, I have this dropouts, so I dont think that it can be a memory problem.
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This may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
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I don't think I should try this A2DP patch, that is made for another machine.
Maybe it mess up the whole software setup on the machine.
I tried to change some of the registry settings mentioned in this thread, but it don't help.
hey guy,
I'm having problems getting this thing to work properly, i've searched and searched and can't seem to find anyone else with this problem:
Device pairs fine and seems to function perfectly as a handsfree, however, using media player the audio comes out of the phone even as the 'click' sound effects are coming out the headset! Can't seem to get any audio from media player or core player to come out the headset, the 'htc streaming media player' uses the headset but you can't open files etc using that.
I've tried with WM5 and WM6, same results.
Anyone faced this problem before?
Hi
I've just purchased this headset last week and am thoroughly impressed by it so far. There's not much info on it out there but theres a few characteristics I've found out about this headset; i wonder if you can help me confirm them.
- It seems like when you take the headset off your head it automatically turns off? at first I thought mine was faulty but this behaviour was quite consistent and I figured it was just a power saving feature.
- seems like it likes to turn by itself if idle quite fast.
- need to manually set the device as hands free for it to actually work as a hands free
- unable to use the mic when connecting to pc. I wanted to use it for my sip client on the pc but alas the microphone function doesn't register? What should I be doing to make this work?
In regards to your problem; I'll outline the steps I take to use mine.
1. turn on headset
2. turn on trinity bluetooth from comm manager
3. go to bluetooth settings from settings
4. touch and hold down the nokia bh501 item until the drop down menu appears ,then select "set as wireless audio" or similar
--> you should hear a sound, if you can hear this then it will work, if theres nothing
--> alternatively, select hands free if you want to use it as hands free!
5. open your favorite mp3's and it should work fine.
Does this work for you? Btw im using Mun's TE wm6 rom. What rom are u using?
Eureka!
Your post made me realise I had only tried the headset with AAC files and not MP3 and guess what? The headset only works with MP3 files! Although this is probably a limitation of the trinity.
I can also confirm it doesn't work with nerodigital video files.
I'm using the GPS enabled WM5 Ship ROM.
I'll do some more tests on different media files, it would be a real shame if we're limited to only MP3s...
EDIT: Wow the sound quality is amazing and the bass is fantastic!
I haven't tried playing AAC files because I haven't got any...I specifically converted all my formats so I could use GS player. I'm pretty sure the headset can play WMA as well..I haven't really tested...
The next thing I notice is this constant high pitch ringing or hissing sound...It's very uncomfortable.
I've seen reports of this all over the forum in regards to the Triity, let's hope there is a fix available soon.
wma file work.
i have wm6 and a motorola ht820 and it works great. the only thing is that the perfomance of the trinity decrease while i'm using the bluetooth-headset.
Nokia bh-501 Not discovering in my windows XP laptop
Hi guys,
I am finding difficulties connecting my nokia bh-501 to my laptop. Not even its discovering in My bluetooth places. Is there any driver that i need to upgrade to use the Nokia bluetooth headset BH-501 on my laptop?
Please help me...
Yuvaraj
soadownz said:
hey guy,
I'm having problems getting this thing to work properly, i've searched and searched and can't seem to find anyone else with this problem:
Device pairs fine and seems to function perfectly as a handsfree, however, using media player the audio comes out of the phone even as the 'click' sound effects are coming out the headset! Can't seem to get any audio from media player or core player to come out the headset, the 'htc streaming media player' uses the headset but you can't open files etc using that.
I've tried with WM5 and WM6, same results.
Anyone faced this problem before?
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hey hey..
i have this htc s710, and everthing is working fine...except Orb
i's working but running very choppy...not watchable
i have triede some different things, but nothing seems to fix my problem.
i have tried wmp in wm6 and TCPmp with wm5 codec..same problem with both?
any idea how i can fix this, if it can be fixed...i hope it can..
thx everyone!
Have you tried overclocking the phone? The cpu in its default setting is a bit underpowered.
no i have not...
do you have any god guides on how to do that?
Hi for me it's working fine without any problem.
The only things is to set correctly the connection speed.
On the S710 when you register to your orb accaunt, at the bottom of the page you can select the speed of the connection.
By default when I connect by WIFI to my computer, the speed is setup to 1500kb/s
If I play a video is jerky like hell.
But if I set up the spped to 320kb/s then the video plays just fine.
SOLVED!!!
Hi there,
Ever since I have my Touch Diamond and My cherished Nokia A2DP headset, I've been enjoying wireless music, calling and everything at the touch of a few buttons on my headset.
Recently I finally flashed to winmo 6.5, and I also decided that Touchflo was costing me too much precious memory. So I flashed to a nice clean rom (BsB).
Everything cool so far, that is, until I tried my BT headset. With out the touchflo player you're automatically dependent on windows media player, and if there is one piece of software that makes listening to music a b*tch it's wmp. So I installed pocketmusic. Everything fine so far. but the controls on my bt headset stubbornly only work with AND automatically start WMP. very irritating. after extensive searching of the beloved XDA forums I found out that this was a known problem. WMP Hijacking BT controls.
And finally it appeared I had found the solution: T-back's 6.5 BT driver.cab
This was supposed to give back the control of Bluetooth to the program running at the moment. all the coments left in said thread were joyous, it works, it's alive...
So I installed it, and too my suprise it did indeed stop WMP from hijacking the controls and also assigned the controls to pocketmusic...
Unfortunatly it also stopped the audio from going to my Bt headset, which kind of beats the purpose of a bluetooth headset.
So now I'm back to listening to music without T-back's driver, on my BT headset, and having to control my music on screen, which is a little irritating.
I've allready replied to the thread in hopes of getting a solution or something, but unfortunatly no reply.
I'm hoping someone beter technically endowed than me can give me a solution for this problem, this is the only thing standing between me, and my perfect rom!
HELP
Note, I tried this on 2 different winmo 6.5.1 rom's (benko's clean and the BsB 6.5.1)
note2: could this maybe be something having to do with the difference between 6.5 and 6.5.1?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I don't know about the ROM being the problem. You can try pocket player. It supports AVRCP by default. It also has a lot more features than Pocket Music.
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I don't know about the ROM being the problem. You can try pocket player. It supports AVRCP by default. It also has a lot more features than Pocket Music.
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Same problem there, i've tried them both.
you wouldn't happen to knwo what the latest version was by any chance?
I had a version which I had to import a dll, to get exclusivity for a2dp controls.
Which also didn't work for me
*edit* Never mind, it's 4.1 ;-)
But it's not really the solution I'm looking for, I want to fix the problem internally (so I can use a2dp for any program I want, for example S2P)
*edit 2*
Tried it, still not working, it's still starting WMP, even with the extra wmp plugin which Conduits recommends for this issue...
So still in need of assistance
Crap! It turns out I have the same problem using ENERGY ROM, but hadn't notice since the volume control on my HT820 works OK. I'm actually using HTC Audio Manager (manila) so I don't get WMP, is just the FWD / REV controls on the headphones don't work. Looks like Conduits will provide a fix for their player in the next release.
dgaud007 said:
Crap! It turns out I have the same problem using ENERGY ROM, but hadn't notice since the volume control on my HT820 works OK. I'm actually using HTC Audio Manager (manila) so I don't get WMP, is just the FWD / REV controls on the headphones don't work. Looks like Conduits will provide a fix for their player in the next release.
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Nope, there not fixing it, that is the fix, it's a DLL file. the problem he's having is he isn't able to check the box to override wmp control. which you can do by selecting it, and then pressing the enter key on your virtual keyboard, unfortunatly the fix did not work for me
this is the dll file you need to put into your player directory, which you can then configure through the plugins tab in pocket player itself (after soft reset)
Try it, maybe it'll work for you, it didn't for me
volume control does work for me as well though, but it's the only thing taht's working
Solved
Thanx to Zänker
You should install the two files from these posts.
With this one you can toggle a2dp manually once your headset is connected:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437726
The following makes it toggle automatically after you connect your headset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502549
(you should have the t-back driver installed as well)
Worked for me, using the bsb 6.5.1g rom and s2p media player.
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Is that player dependent ?
I usually use Pocket Tunes, and never had this issue with 6.5 builds (I indeed use BsB 6.5.1G atm). If it helps i use Sony-Ericsson HBH-DS970...
God_Lx said:
Is that player dependent ?
I usually use Pocket Tunes, and never had this issue with 6.5 builds (I indeed use BsB 6.5.1G atm). If it helps i use Sony-Ericsson HBH-DS970...
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I had this problem with all the players I tried (except WMP, which was the culprit)
In case you're interested...
Juts fixed my AVRCP problem using HTC Audio Manager in NRG's ROM. I installed this version of audio manager and everything is working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5069731&postcount=1813
a2dp
A2DP doesnt work in my htc p3400i too after upgrading to wm 6.5 and it works in 6.1 ?