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WM2005 Takes to long to start ringing

WM 2005 1.6C using standard ringtones as found on the device takes ages to start rining.
This is so bad that I have missed several important calls. To test this I have phoned my cell from the landline and from the time I can hear the land line ring to the time the cell starts ringing takes 10 plus seconds.
This experiment was repeated with:
* the cell in the cradle
* the cell out of the cradle and ON
* the cell out of the cradle and OFF
And in every case the delay was too long.
Does any one know what could be the cause of this? Is it jus me or do other users have the same problem?

What is the location of our ringtone files? Default: \Windows\Rings or SD Card?
Have you tried using the default ringtone?
Do you have MS Voice Command installed?
-rhmartin-

I have tried using the default ringtone and yes I do have voice command installed.
Is there a speed issue with voice command?

Just put the ringtones in to windows rings folder. Than its going to work. i have installed voice comman too

I now have it down to 2 rings before it actually starts ringing. Achived this by moving files to the rings directory.
Weird though....
Are there any applications that is known for slowing down WM5 1.6c

Same problem on universal
Sorry if this isn't himalaya related but I found this problem on the O2 XDA Exec too, so I searched and found this thread. I missed several critical calls from potential employers (who all hide their numbers and didn't leave messages). Consequently I hard reset my xda and now have it running the bare minimum, just to receive calls on time! I had voice command on there before which was useful, but I'm not risking it again. I was using a standard ringtone before too.

Duan said:
I now have it down to 2 rings before it actually starts ringing. Achived this by moving files to the rings directory.
Weird though....
Are there any applications that is known for slowing down WM5 1.6c
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voice command option to announce calls sort of slow down the call receive.
some today plug-ins (spb & bpp) displaying sd card memory status also slows down the device coming up from power off!

After performing a hard reset and not installing voice command or any other applications it seems to be behaving well.

i dont have voice command but still phone rings late, i have been searching for a registry tweak or some other way but no success yet...
my radio rom ver is 1.06.02
ftp://[email protected]/BlueAngel/Radio_Roms/
there is Radio_1.13_00_Converted_Type_I.rar , i dont know if upgrading to new 1.13 radio ver will solve this problem...
New Radio 1.13.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23807&highlight=blueangle+wm5

hay
vibrate & Ring works for the time being...

SOLVED!!! - Annoying 3 second Ringing Delay
Yep, it's true ... just go here ... [ shameless plug ] ... 8)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42674

O2 Atom = BAD BAD. How to fix?

I've bought the non HTC O2 Xda Atom PPC Phone days ago. This device has quite alot of annoying problems. I believe all these issues have to be rectified before we can comfortably use this device.
I. VERY FEW Main Storage Memory
As we know WM5 includes PS (Persistent Storage). All the RAM are now used as Program Memory. But the Main Storage Memory (Flash ROM) is only 22.1MB. This is petite and would not be sufficient for installations of programs that has to be installed on the main memory to work. The Storage memory is 43.9Mb, I wonder if there is anyway to MERGE the 43.9Mb and 22.1Mb which would make things alot easier.
II. EXTREMELY Slow!
The device's response is very slow. It takes seconds to load things or half a sec to response to tap sometimes. It is just SLOW. I thought it has something to do with WM5 but after upgrading my BlueAngel to WM5, it is SIGNIFICANTLY faster. I've already tried the Registry cache mod to speed it up a little but it is still slow. Even lags up when I type a sms.
III. CHOPPY Mp3 ringtone
It is just so choppy that it is unbearable. How to fix?
IV. Phone Answering Delays
V. Camera is EXTREMELY Slow! Quality of pictures acceptable as a 2MP device.
VI. In Car charger DOES NOT charge phone unless the phone is switched off. Why??
The cons are so critical that it outweighs all the pros of this device
I would rate it 5/10 personally. I am going back to my BA WM5 unless there are fixes. :!:

I have ALL those problems too. It sucks. The memory issue is really bad. I think the choppy ring is from the file being shuffled out of the rom to play. Sometimes I get an error message saying I have no memory when I try to take a pic (when I have used no memory ). If there was a way to get wm2003se onto it I would be willing to do it, but I doubt it is possible.

I HAD the same annoying problems. I wrote to O2. The reply I got is quite formal and useless. It seems most of people wrote to O2, they got the same template-style reply.

I understand how new thigns can have problems but I doubt if there will ever be fixes to the problems listed. We are just not supposed to go back to the default ringer tone because the Mp3 ringtone is so choppy. The Mp3 ringtone Works perfectly on my WM5 Blueangel.
The 22.11MB(16.13 Actual) storage memory just WON'T work. Even if I install everything on the storage cards, there would still be files needed to be written on \windows\ directory, the size of the main storage is just way too small.
The overall speed is slow and unbearable.
I think I am going to sell the device in a few days... Spent too much time trying to fix a $900 phone. Has anyone tried the bundled headset? The pieces are SO BIG that I doubt anyone with the largest earholes can put them on... Just Bad O2...

yesterday I went to Broadway and I saw that there is guy buying this O2 crappy machines.....and I think he will have the same feeling with yours....
But I cannot do anything at that moment.... :roll:

The quality is Below standard expectations. I would not recommend this device to anyone. Do you know where I can sell it off in Hong Kong at a good price?

i think sell it in yahoo.com.hk is the best place.... :lol:

I was going to buy the exec as well later in the year. I do not know any more. Has anyone bought it to comment?
I only have wm5 from the atom, I would like to know just how much of the problem is wm5 and how much is the hardware. O2 have really tarnished the brand name xda. I was dumb enough to buy just based on previous experience with other xda's.

Try some twaeking.. it helps
I have the Atom and I have been tweaking it a little.. the speed performance has improved.. now maybe up to about 85% - 90% of my O2 Mini.. so, it may not be as bad, if you tried some of these tweaks..
O2 Atom Tweaks - http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8631&sid=437d12dbc33628f1dde0d7b2c7c7efa1
Hope this helps
NR

Those peeps who said problems with MP3 ringtones, i had the same problem with MP3 but if i convert that MP3 to WMA it plays perfectly as a ringtone, i believe that this is because WAV,MID & WMA play natively but the MP3 ringtone goes through a WM10 player.

Hehe..
what goes around comes around..
the tips from http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8631&sid=437d12dbc33628f1dde0d7b2c7c7efa1
are from my review from absolutesurf.com

More Atom Problems
[NB: duplicate post from other Atom thread - suggest an Atom specific area?]
Apart from the poor response time, I also find the standard alarm function does not work properly. A quick test with the alarm set for 10 minutes ahead works well, but 6am the next morning does not sound at all, until you later go into the alarm section to find out why, and then it goes off. Any ideas anyone?
Also, my Atom turns itself on accasionally for no reason. No incoming call or SMS, no alarm set, no USB or bluetooth connection, etc. It just turns on and sits there. Any ideas anyone?
Also - another poster advised removing items from start-up. How do you do this? Does it require a registry edit?
thanks,
depressed_atom_user

my friend from O2 Said, that the old version is very slow
and the there is the newer version from o2, but is not official lunch yet
is have batter memory architecture :roll:

Yeah.. I get the exact same alarm problem..
Ended up late to work 'cause of this.
I just sent in my Atom to the service centre (SG).. hope to receive it by tomorrow evening. Really eager to check out the improvements.

Problem WM5 1.60c00WWE+TomTom5+Win Media Player

I Guys,
First of all this forum rulessss.....
I've upgraded my Himalaya (QTEK2020) with rom from Buzzdev.net:
http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,100/func,fileinfo/id,4/
After taking care of the initial TT5 problems: Backlight and crashes... It was up to a test drive. Everything works like a charm, but if i want to listen to mp3 while using the TT5, the sound breaks every 5 secs a return... Have you experienced this problem too...
Thanks
RR

Maybe it's a matter of CPU usage? Have you tried overclockingyour device?
I have a favor to ask you: could you send me your welcomehead.96.png located in your \Windows on your device? I'm looking to get the splash screen included in the 1.60c. Drop it here on the forum.

Entering numbers while on call problem

Hello,
I'm running the latest version of Faria's WM6 ROM (the total one, not the vanilla) on my MDA with T-Mobile.
I've been loving it, but today, I noticed that while you are on a call, you can't enter any numbers for the automated call menu systems (ie delete or save voicemails).
I've dug through all the settings I can find on the phone and searched through all 13 pages of this forum and I can't find anything on this issue I'm having.
Has anyone else experienced this and found a fix? Am I just being blind and missing a setting somewhere, or should I try a different rom (I've seen a lot of people recommending the X-plore rom)?
Thanks

I've had this a couple of times on WM6 roms. Its never been consistent for me though (happens on one call but not the next). I've also seen where when you press and hold a key (like to do speed dial) it doesn't hold the tone so speed dial doesn't work (had to soft reset when that happened, and thats only been once so far on all the WM6 roms I've been on).
I honestly can't say wether I've seen the behavior you descrive on the X-Plore rom (but I definetly had it on MBE a few times). For me though, its gone the next phone call (or after a soft reset. I honestly don't remember which).

Yeah, I just installed the X-plore Rom and checked and it was working fine. Guess I'll just have to figure out what features I want out of the different rom packages and install them as needed.
Thanks

After 7 months I am now happy :)

I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt

Hey Matt,
please post your tweaks and programs to help US out too!
thanks!

Do yourself a favor, and BACK UP everything on your phone, so if you have to hard reset, you won't have to spend another 7 months tweaking everything back the way you had it.
When I installed the "test rom", after 12 hours of getting it all the way I wanted, I screwed around with the TP2 TF3D and didn't like it, hard reset, then restored everything back the way it was in less than 1/2 hour.

laft2k said:
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
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Congrats, after 4 months, 4 custom roms, on 3 TP's im finally happy and bug free with everything i want (except the damn galarm/s2u2 bug).
What are you running?

Everything is backed up and clean
I am running
ROM 1.90.161.5 WWE
Radio 1.02.25.28
Advanced Config
S2U2
SPB Time
SKSchema which I have programed to check my email every hour. Stock client never worked. And also soft reset every night to keep it fresh
TomTom7
GPS Test
Resco File Explorer and Reg Edit
Torch Button
AEB Plus
I am running the GPS tweaks cab which deletes the GPS log and turns off agps. I get a lock on tomtom in about 10 secs stationary and 30 secs moving
Also turned off face down mute as it really annoyed me.
Data connection terminates after 30 secs of inactivity
I imported some smart touch reg keys so I can use the scroll wheel for phone, contacts, programs etc...
Applied all the power settings in advance config
a couple of other minor tweaks which dont affect performance but make it easier for me.
And thats about it.
Matt

I would suggest so many more apps, but i dont want to mess up the good thing you have going.
Id drop touch button and get Htorch.....for sure

YL Groper said:
Congrats, after 4 months, 4 custom roms, on 3 TP's im finally happy and bug free with everything i want (except the damn galarm/s2u2 bug).
What are you running?
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What is the galarm/s2u2 bug you speak of? I use both and haven't experienced any issues...

laft2k said:
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
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Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)

YL Groper said:
I would suggest so many more apps, but i dont want to mess up the good thing you have going.
Id drop touch button and get Htorch.....for sure
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Torch button does exactly what i want, turns on and off with one button press. Re-maped to my left softkey, Perfect.
I had loads of other apps but they were point;ess for me. I have everythig i need. I went through a stage of having loads of apps. But never used them. I prefer the minimal faster TP that works

ferus said:
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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Hi Ferus, with regards to TF3D, i ditched it, it wasd useless. I much prefer S2U2 and the default WM today screen
E-mails is where i had the most trouble. I use skschema to check my mail every hour. Works perfectly. I spent ages trying to find a fix. the script is #r(/windows/tmail.exe) #p(-service"youraccountname" -sync) just replace your account name with the exact name of your email account for example mine is "Yahoo!" Now this only works if the device is not locked using the built in locking as it brings the mail app to the foreground. works perfectly with s2u2 though.
Flashing my radio to the one above helped loads with GPS, also applying the gps tweaks cab really makes a difference.
Alarms was a problem i had with all my wm phones. This is now overcome using spb time. never had a missed alarm. sound also goes off if phone is silent
I dont have a problem with performance. I reccomend getting rid of TF3D.
I havent hadf any problems with Activ sync so cant help im afraid.

ferus said:
Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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Ferrus,
Relating to the 'freezes several times a day', i used to get that, albiet, freezing once every 4 days when i received a text. After flashing to the latest HTC ROM (updated version) over a month ago, i haven't had a crash since.
M

ferus:
I know you said you didn't want to flash a different ROM, but if you can wait a little longer hopefully AT&T will release their update for us.
There is a leaked test ROM upgrade here that fixes TONS of bugs, greatly speeds up the device, AND make GPS better (fast fixes with working aGPS...if you have data). The lag is still there, but not as bad as it was in the beginning.
The new radio in that ROM is leaps and bounds better than the stock radio.
If you need any warranty work done, you'll probably have to flash back to the stock ROM...unless they release the final version of this test one before then.

mlin said:
What is the galarm/s2u2 bug you speak of? I use both and haven't experienced any issues...
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Some are lucky
Here is my problem
http://forum.ageye.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=401&sid=5f608e68da8859da1ad4118d7ccb0cd6

ferus said:
Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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I had similar experiences until I used cooked roms. If you want a good stable rom I would try Might Mike's, or Juicy's... I had similar issues to most of your and they were all solved with a fresh rom. TF3D is zippy and sweet and I have pretty much solved them.
As far as the GPS... that was solved by updating to the 1.11 sprint radio. I lock on in less than 20 secs every time now. Not sure that will work for the ATT. Not sure if ATT is CDMA. I am sure there are some ATT compatible ones that would also solve your issues.

Thanks for all the answers and tips The whole weekend I was struggling with my TP and finally I decided to go through with a ROM flash.
Someone suggested some ROMs already but I was wondering if you can recommend me a stable, quick and responsive (kind of a the-less-apps-the-better kind of ROM)?
I'm about to browse through the ROM forum but I'm afraid it contains TOO MUCH information. So I would appreciate any suggestions.
I use my TP as a normal PDA user (phone, email, internet, GPS, IM are the most used features).
Thanks in advance, I hope I can finally get a decent PDA ;-)

laft2k said:
Everything is backed up and clean
I am running the GPS tweaks cab which deletes the GPS log and turns off agps. I get a lock on tomtom in about 10 secs stationary and 30 secs moving
And thats about it.
Matt
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Hi.
Mind sharing how can I get the above cab?