all of a sudden, my memory card in my Kaiser is showing that its full. i know i hadnt filled all 8gb, considering that only a few days or so ago, i had only used 2.5 gigs or so....i used this program mTreeSize that i got from here, and it shows the same, that there's only 2.5 gigs used, but then under the Drives tab, it shows that the card is full......anyone experience this and know what the problem might be?
do you use windows live?
You could try using an adapter and plugging it into your PC. From there check the size on it by doing this:
1. Open your Control Panel
2. Navigate through Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management (On the left hand side).
3. After that look down the bottom. there are a number of rows with blue bars. Find your memory card and check if the blue bar fills up the ENTIRE row or box. if it doesnt, it would seem your memory card isnt partitioned properly.
4. (Only if it follows that context) remove the current partition by right clicking the blue bar and selecting "Delete logical partition". Then once that has finished you should have just a box with 'Unpartitioned space' on it. Right click the box and create a new partition(FAT?). Once you've completed that reinsert it into your PDA. Cant remember if PDA's support NTFS so i think you should stick with FAT.
If in 3, it shows the memory card as only have 2.5 - 3gb.. return it.
timmy noticed he has large strange files on his storage card created by windows live. make sure you delete them. also, your card might not be genuine.. as stated by aegishua
Hello everyone,
i own a Raphael since January and in this time it allready killed 2 SD-Cards.
The first one about 4 months ago.
Suddenly in the middle of usage the Raphael froze and i could not get it started again. even after a hardreset it was stuck in the bootscreen.
after a lot of trying and finally removing the sd card it bootet again without a problem.
the card was not readable anymore in any of my devices or windows boxes.
i thougth myself. well can happen even when a card is only half a year old got a new 8GB card and forgot about the incident.
yesterday while listening to some podcast suddenly the sound died. taking out the phone i found out it did not reacted to any power button presses or anything the screen stayed black.
after a softreset the phone worked again but took about 5 minutes to get in a usable state and the programms installed on the sd card where not aviable anymore.
taking a closer look i found that the card was not displayed in file explorer anymore.
gave it a try with my mp3 player. same result no card was found.
today in the morning i gave it a try on the pc with an sd-adabter. but also no result, wondows does not even recocnizes any device being plugged in. tryed a few data recover tools but non of them found the card.
someone has similiar experiances or any tips how i could get my data back from the card?
i guess the phone has to be send back for maintainance, but i doubt that they will find anything, if they accept it at all.
I have changed 4 sd cards because of similar problems. But the problem is most likely because of the fragility of high capacity microSDs, I wouldn't blame Raphael. Try other manufacturers (and try to find the ones that are not just rebranded)
I've had many issues with sd card corruption, but have solved some of the issues. Here's my advice (fwiw):
1. Get a card scanner, and regularly scan your catd. I do it everyday (takes 5 min). I use Wizcode Scandisk. It fixes errors and dumps out files that can be opened in notepad. It's worth looking at them, as it helped me find the multiple sources of corruption that I had.
2. Don't put your PIE cache on the card.
3. Change all 'save' paths (esp. the camera) to main memory.
4. Store any programs you use a lot on main memory.
5. Do NOT have any programs that run constantly on the sd card.
6. Do NOT put Fingerkeyboard on the sd card (major problem for me).
Basically, my advice is to use sd cards for storage. The Raphael has a lot of memory-use it for programs. I haven't had to format my card in about 4 months. I was doing it every couple of weeks for a while.
well basically i was using my sd card as a storage place for movies and podcast + podcastplayer prog.
and was using the player more or less the whole day.
i used the same card (and the other one before) also in my mp3 player when the raphael or the bt headset run out of power and there is no power outlet aviable to recharge. and twice the card failed in the rapahel.
when i got a new card, i also found that the card is working 100% on pc and mp3 player, but the raphael still can not see any sd card.
i really blame the phone and also assume that it now has a defective reader.
have to give it back to repairs as soon i have flashed the original firmware and make my way back to the store
You should scan the disk to find out the error sources. It may be something simple that causing them. Also, if your phone freezes when listening to music, you may want to either wait it out, or remove the card before soft resetting. You should do some searches on card corruption. There are lots of threads here that can be helpful.
many Sdcard and usbStick manufacturers got lowlevel format tools you can download and get cards not otherwise working in cardreaders on pc back to life
would love to get those cards working again. but i also would love to get the data back that was on them.
but the problem is the cards do not even appear on the pc, or any other device i have that can read/write them (usb card reader, digi cam, mp3 player)
its just as if nothing is ever inserted in the reader.
the low level format tools don't rely on windows driver model to detect cards
Flash Format (cnetx) has always been able to re-format my card, even when my pc couldn't recognize it and neither could my fuze. It has a free trial that works fine.
I haven't experienced any of these issues myself. But I'm sure I will now that I said that....
i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
patlabor said:
i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
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Check C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\CNETX-you'll find the cab in there. There will be several-you want the PPC-Arm one. It should install fine.
Card Freeze
Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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The storage memory on the device is flash, not ram, so you don't lose program memory changing the save paths to main memory (if that's what you meant by moving data to main memory).
I never had any issues with my storage cards (sd and cf) on my 2003 device. I don't think it was the device, but rather the cards. The big, 16 gb cards just seem to be less hardy than a 1-2 gb card. I had all my apps on the storage card (including stuff like magic button), and never had a problem. But, jeez, the 16 g microsd is sensitive as hell. It gets minor bits of corruption at least once a week. I scan it everyday to avoid it crashing, which has helped, because I've gone 4 months without formatting it. One thing that I've found screws it up royally is doing a lot of file/directory operations over active sync on a pc. I don't know why, but cutting and pasting files from one folder to another in the sd card frequently results in lost clusters. Renaming folders is also a bad idea.
OK Flash
Well I guess I didn't explain it correctly. According to HTC the RAM is 288MB with a ROM of 512MB. So I'm really confused since according to the start>settings>system>memory the total for my storage and my program = 549MB which is of course more than 288 and 512. So when I load applications into my device and get a choice of main or storage card when it was a large file (some apps I use were 14 megs or more) I would choose the storage card.
My old experience with Windows CE was whatever memory was on the device was shared with both the program and storage, so I would put as much as possible on my storage card. However in windows 6.1 or higher it lists two separate columns for Program and Storage with: Total, In Use, and Free. So when I install apps I presumed they went into the storage area. Am I mistaken? I figured Program on the device meant how much is currently in use. Kinda like opening multiple windows on a PC. I notice it's low when at once I have 4 applications open on my windows mobile device so that's what I thought Program memory was.
Therefore does installing to the Main, when given a choice during program installation. where does it get installed ROM, RAM? Why is my total memory higher than RAM or the ROM
Any insight would help me decide the best location for my program installation to not corrupt the data, or have the flash card screw me up either.
288 MB is the total amount of system ram. A large amount is not user-accessible, it's used by the kernel/OS/Page-pool, so you don't see it reported. It's still there, though. The rom memory is 512 MB, but the actual memory in rom is subtracted by the storage memory so you see the amount of user-available memory. With 2003 devices, if the battery ran down, you lost all of your data, because the storage memory was in RAM (except perhaps for a little flash disk space). But with a fuze, you can pull the battery out, and not lose your data.
Totally confused
OK your right about the 2003 devices which is why I placed most of my stuff on a storage card. However why is my total reported memory 549MB more than the 512 ROM? Also when I install stuff to the device where does it get stored, the 512 ROM? Are you saying that the 200mb of Program being shown is 288 RAM minus the 88 being used to run the OS?
So are you saying its safe to install all my apps onto the device and I won't lose anything if the battery runs out?
Yeah, I've been saying that for about 3 weeks, lol! They got rid of the volatile storage memory with winmo 5; we're onto 6.5 now, and it's a thing of the distant past. I you don't believe me, pull out your battery (there's no backup battery on the device) and see if it causes a hard reset.
This is not an uncommon problem with digital cameras, as well. It's complicated, but the bottom line is this: whenever you buy an SD/micro SDHC/etc. card, you should do a full format of it on your COMPUTER, then put it in your device.
Tried to move some things to SD and this comes up for everything I try. Problem is it shows 3gb (out of 5.44gb) of space left on internal storage.
Stock, Rooted, 16gb card (I know that dosen' matter)
Color me confused any suggestions?
I actually had that happen too, it was right after I did nvflash.. It showed that my phone was 100% full. Attempted to delete music files and it told me that they were system files.. wtf?
I ended up deleting all my music and it fixed it.. Twas quite odd indeed.
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I have an HTC Evo with with a custom rom (CM7 7.0.2). My SD Card became full, so I figured I would delete some nandroid backups. I went ahead and did this (deleted a couple gigs worth). After doing that, my disk usage didn't seem to change - I still had a full SD card. After tinkering and cleaning some more, I still was showing a full SD card. I went ahead and partitioned. After that it still seems as though when I delete things to free up space, my disk usage stats still remain the same. Am I missing something?
Connect phone to computer with usb cable, set mount as disk drive, erase what u don't need, empty recycle bin.
Also try to mount and unmount sdcard to check free space.
LaD
You may need to reboot to get new info. Are you checking in Settings?
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I went ahead and partitioned my SD card. This fixed the problem. Thanks for suggestions.
yeah.. i agree
Stiill happening...
I originally posted this thread about 5-6 months ago. After some time has passed by, I am having the same issue again... If I delete items from my SD card, it does not register the freed space. I can reboot, remount, etc. and whether I go to Settings or Titanium or Computer, it shows the same amount of storage being used. The weird part is that my SD card only has a gig on it (not 5). The only way to fix this is to partition... This is really irritating. Any thoughts?
EDIT: Okay, I went ahead and emptied the trash and everything seems to be fine.
You can also try SD Maid to free up space.
I don't know how it works on android, but when you remove stuff in GNU/Linux/unices it can take a minute or two to once again get registered as available storage.
Then just to rule out the obvious, you mentioned that you partitioned the drive, are you sure you are looking at the right drive for the available space? I would recommend going to a terminal and delete the stuff you want gone and then use the df command to see available space. I think it's in BusyBox I am not sure though but it should be. Good luck
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Hi, and sorry my english!
I got my new mi4i phone and I have some problem.
I get force close messages (media process) the phone lagging and I can't copy anything to the internal storage, it shows me 0 Mb free space. I try to make factory reset and it look like everythings ok. I have 26GB free space (32GB version) and very fast system. But after few minutes the space is less and less. It look like something writting to the storage and some minutes later is full.
I update to 7.0.3 but I have same problems. If I connect to the laptop I don't see the storage. (I try on Linux and windows.)
Does anyone from you know any solution?
just got mine but dont have your problem.
think you need to pay the seller a visit...
I tried to install a rom from fastboot but I get the same errors.. When I see the storage I get 26GB files on the internal storage/ramdump/. The file names are: ramdump_modem_"date"
If I delete this file after 20 minutes the system is recreat it.
Defective as for replacement
yup - sounds defective to me...